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So out of curiousity, what does have everybody think is the most logical of the religions? I'm not asking which one should be followed, but rather which one appears the most logically consistent and workable. To those without religion, feel free to post which seems to make any sense at all, even if its flawed. I'd be particularly interested especially in what those without religion think.

So out of curiousity, what does have everybody think is the most logical of the religions? I'm not asking which one should be followed, but rather which one appears the most logically consistent and workable. To those without religion, feel free to post which seems to make any sense at all, even if its flawed. I'd be particularly interested especially in what those without religion think.

Deism or Atheism get my bet.

What kind of stupid post is this!?

Atheism. It's essentially a worship of logic, in religious terms.

Atheism

One you responded to...This is just my curiousity as to what people think of the realism of various religions.

Deism or Atheism get my bet.

What kind of stupid post is this!?
I agree either there is or is not a god ... if so probably does not conform to an individual religion if not ...

Atheism is not a religion. It is simply the lack or belief in a God. It is not a set of ideas nor does it have a dogma or holy book.

Atheism is not a religion. It is simply the lack or belief in a God. It is not a set of ideas nor does it have a dogma or holy book.
Religion does not require a holy book nor dogma (example diesm) though not going to argue atheism as a religion that is for other people to do

Atheism is not a religion. It is simply the lack or belief in a God. It is not a set of ideas nor does it have a dogma or holy book.


If you look at WHY most atheists don't believe in God, it's because He's an enormous logical fallacy. And as Thrust says, books and dogma are for Catholics, not religions. Though I can see that this could be a way for Christianity to prove itself the most realist, simply by discounting every other religion.

Googleism. It provides evidence of it's truth. Go to www.google.com. It also grants it's adherent's wishes for information. And unlike some religions which promise 72 virgins after you die, Google's (pbuh) image search will give you millions of pictures of naked women right now!

So out of curiousity, what does have everybody think is the most logical of the religions? I'm not asking which one should be followed, but rather which one appears the most logically consistent and workable. To those without religion, feel free to post which seems to make any sense at all, even if its flawed. I'd be particularly interested especially in what those without religion think.

Most logical religion is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints
Logically one would think if Prophets were around in biblical times than they should be still around because the world isn't all good yet. The church has a Prophet and the succession of Preisthood.

But eh, you'll just joke on my choice.

Anyway Deist try to be logical but act so cold when they speak. That was why Methodist and other Peist appeared in history. Peist were adament in woman's rights in england such as voting.

Googleism. It provides evidence of it's truth. Go to www.google.com. It also grants it's adherent's wishes for information. And unlike some religions which promise 72 virgins after you die, Google's (pbuh) image search will give you millions of pictures of naked women right now!
!damn strait! I beleive I was a member back in the day!
(an for thoes that want more of the virgins there is a booble.com too!)

Apathetic Agnosticism.

1. The existence of a Supreme Being is unknown and unknowable.
To believe in the existence of a god is an act of faith. To believe in the nonexistence of a god is likewise an act of faith. There is no evidence that there is a Supreme Being nor is there evidence there is not a Supreme Being. Faith is not knowledge. We can only state with assurance that we do not know.

2. If there is a Supreme Being, then that being appears to act as if apathetic to events in our universe.
All events in our Universe, including its creation, can be explained with or without the existence of a Supreme Being. Thus, if there is indeed a God, then that god has had no more impact than no god at all. To all appearances, any purported Supreme Being is indifferent to our Universe and to its inhabitants.

3. We are apathetic to the existence or nonexistence of a Supreme Being.
If there is a God, and that God does not appear to care, then there is no reason to concern ourselves with whether or not a Supreme Being exists, nor should we have any interest in satisfying the purported needs of that Supreme Being.

Apathetic Agnosticism.

1. The existence of a Supreme Being is unknown and unknowable.
To believe in the existence of a god is an act of faith. To believe in the nonexistence of a god is likewise an act of faith. There is no evidence that there is a Supreme Being nor is there evidence there is not a Supreme Being. Faith is not knowledge. We can only state with assurance that we do not know.

2. If there is a Supreme Being, then that being appears to act as if apathetic to events in our universe.
All events in our Universe, including its creation, can be explained with or without the existence of a Supreme Being. Thus, if there is indeed a God, then that god has had no more impact than no god at all. To all appearances, any purported Supreme Being is indifferent to our Universe and to its inhabitants.

3. We are apathetic to the existence or nonexistence of a Supreme Being.
If there is a God, and that God does not appear to care, then there is no reason to concern ourselves with whether or not a Supreme Being exists, nor should we have any interest in satisfying the purported needs of that Supreme Being.

This is the CORRECT answer!

The Vulcans would be proud of you, my child. :)

La Vey Satanism possibly, as described on http://www.dpjs.co.uk/modern.html . One can debate on wether this is a religion or life philosophy though.

Or solipsism - roughly the belief that you are the only real person and that everything and everybody else are just dreams/ figments of your imagination. I do not think it is possible to prove you wrong through logical debate if you believe this - though I could prove you wrong for myself by chopping your head of.

Note that you asked for logical, not for things I'd encourage you to adopt as life philosophy ;)

1. The existence of a Supreme Being is unknown and unknowable.
To believe in the existence of a god is an act of faith. To believe in the nonexistence of a god is likewise an act of faith. There is no evidence that there is a Supreme Being nor is there evidence there is not a Supreme Being. Faith is not knowledge. We can only state with assurance that we do not know.

But you don't get evidence that things don't exist, as they don't exist to leave the evidence of their, um, non-existence. Thus, the lack of evidence of the existence of God means it is logical to assume he does not exist, for the very lack of evidence could be taken AS evidence of nothingness.

2. If there is a Supreme Being, then that being appears to act as if apathetic to events in our universe.
All events in our Universe, including its creation, can be explained with or without the existence of a Supreme Being. Thus, if there is indeed a God, then that god has had no more impact than no god at all. To all appearances, any purported Supreme Being is indifferent to our Universe and to its inhabitants.

However, whether or not there is a God DOES have impact on our lives due to the actions of others, thus meaning it is important for us to look into the issue.

3. We are apathetic to the existence or nonexistence of a Supreme Being.
If there is a God, and that God does not appear to care, then there is no reason to concern ourselves with whether or not a Supreme Being exists, nor should we have any interest in satisfying the purported needs of that Supreme Being.

Fair. But it'd still be nice to know, wouldn't it?

I fear you were being rational instead of logical. You'll end up getting a proper job like that.

Most logical religion? That's rather oxymoronic. Religion, at its core, is faith, and faith is alogical. Note I said "alogical" and not "illogical". Religion neither contradicts logic nor it is supported by it. Religion precedes logic.

Depends on your point of view. Logic is an abstraction based on human perception on events, but the events themselves have been preceding logically since before religion. Or humans. Or protozoa. So logic has been around longer, it's just not been perceived as such.

Peechism........worship me.

Whichever religion one follows

Peechism........worship me.
Already do

National Socialism

Atheism.

Most logical religion? That's rather oxymoronic. Religion, at its core, is faith, and faith is alogical. Note I said "alogical" and not "illogical". Religion neither contradicts logic nor it is supported by it. Religion precedes logic.
No beliefs are not by nature logical religious beliefs included … but religions can be expanded to specific beliefs or the organization itself those can be non logically flowing (not talking about proving a belief true) but rather the religion itself can be highly non logical

I don’t know if I am getting the idea across

National Socialism

I remember you preaching nazism somewhere else. You're not saying it is a religion now are you? That would make people like Hitler gods. I suppose it could be considered a religion in the same way that satanism could be considered a religion.

I remember you preaching nazism somewhere else. You're not saying it is a religion now are you? That would make people like Hitler gods. I suppose it could be considered a religion in the same way that satanism could be considered a religion.
Saintinism has a diety so yes it is a religion

Not that religion seems particuliarly logical to me, but the Wiccans and Deists at least seem reasonable.

Not that religion seems particuliarly logical to me, but the Wiccans and Deists at least seem reasonable.
Yeah non specifics generaly ... cant be caught out on a detail (specialy diests)

Saintinism has a diety so yes it is a religion

Does a religion need a deity? What about people who believe in all sorts of mystical life force stuff. I would say they are pretty similar to religious people.

Depends on your point of view. Logic is an abstraction based on human perception on events, but the events themselves have been preceding logically since before religion. Or humans. Or protozoa. So logic has been around longer, it's just not been perceived as such.

Nice equivocation fallacy there.

Yes, logic is some objectively perceived by us humans, rather than invented. So in that sense, religion is preceded by logic.

But in terms of human thought, logic must have an alogical starting point, something that is accepted "by faith". The problem with trying to argue logically about religion is that different religions usually come from different starting points. To argue against an entire religion, one eventually has to argue against that starting point, which lies outside the bounds of logic.

Does a religion need a deity? What about people who believe in all sorts of mystical life force stuff. I would say they are pretty similar to religious people.
True but a belief in a diety garontees it to be a religion some of the others (like budism) can be argued as a philosophy they are kind of touch and go



re·li·gion Audio pronunciation of "religion" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn)
n.

1.
1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.


though that is a broad enough deffinition specialy number 4 that just about anything could fit in it depending on your level of belief in it

Nice equivocation fallacy there.

Yes, logic is some objectively perceived by us humans, rather than invented. So in that sense, religion is preceded by logic.

But in terms of human thought, logic must have an alogical starting point, something that is accepted "by faith". The problem with trying to argue logically about religion is that different religions usually come from different starting points. To argue against an entire religion, one eventually has to argue against that starting point, which lies outside the bounds of logic.
ol arguements of axioms almost as hard to debate as moral realitivism

National Socialism

Would anyone like to suggest ten commandments for the National Socialist religion? Thou shalt hate thy neighbour? Thou shalt not kill, unless you really want to and it's someone from another country?

River Baptist.

I don't know why atheists in here are posting atheism as a religion. Religion is based upon faith in a higher being(s). Atheism is based upon basic reason, not faith.

The only real religion is Christianity. It has proof in the Bible. Biblical prophecys come true. The Bible code proves its true. All other religions are fakes that lead people away from Jesus.

I don't know why atheists in here are posting atheism as a religion. Religion is based upon faith in a higher being(s). Atheism is based upon basic reason, not faith.

I have faith in my reason. Will that do?

The only real religion is Christianity. It has proof in the Bible. Biblical prophecys come true. The Bible code proves its true. All other religions are fakes that lead people away from Jesus.
silly trol come give me a kiss :fluffle:

No beliefs are not by nature logical religious beliefs included … but religions can be expanded to specific beliefs or the organization itself those can be non logically flowing (not talking about proving a belief true) but rather the religion itself can be highly non logical

I don’t know if I am getting the idea across

True. There are systems of belief, whether religious or not, that are illogical. These are certainly houses of cards, and deserve to exposed as such. But there's also a lot of variation out there. I don't reveal atheism to be a lie just by exposing a flaw in the argument of one angry atheist high school student. You do not expose all of Christianity as a lie just by exposing the inconsisencies of one fundamentalist.

The only real religion is Christianity. It has proof in the Bible. Biblical prophecys come true. The Bible code proves its true. All other religions are fakes that lead people away from Jesus.
That "bible code" bullshit works on Moby Dick too. Wanna claim Herman Melville was divinely inspired?

The only real religion is Christianity. It has proof in the Bible. Biblical prophecys come true. The Bible code proves its true. All other religions are fakes that lead people away from Jesus.

So were the other religions true before Jesus came along, because surely you cannot lead people away from someone who has not yet lived.

Depends on your point of view. Logic is an abstraction based on human perception on events, but the events themselves have been preceding logically since before religion. Or humans. Or protozoa. So logic has been around longer, it's just not been perceived as such.
Logic does not exist without a human mind to conceive it. Logic is a thought process.

That "bible code" bullshit works on Moby Dick too. Wanna claim Herman Melville was divinely inspired?

Hey, how many Bible UPCs did you have to send in to get your Bible De-Coder Ring?

True. There are systems of belief, whether religious or not, that are illogical. These are certainly houses of cards, and deserve to exposed as such. But there's also a lot of variation out there. I don't reveal atheism to be a lie just by exposing a flaw in the argument of one angry atheist high school student. You do not expose all of Christianity as a lie just by exposing the inconsisencies of one fundamentalist.
Of course not ... the details are what make the religion less believable making specific claims and having the individual claims disproven

Though that leads to a whole other arguement which I will ge tinto later

Hey, how many Bible UPCs did you have to send in to get your Bible De-Coder Ring?
None. You have to clip UPCs from boxes of Christ Chex. It takes 100 to get the decoder ring, but 50 will get you a nice "holy grail" ashtray.

That "bible code" bullshit works on Moby Dick too. Wanna claim Herman Melville was divinely inspired?
It only works on the bible. The bible is God's evidence for man.

So were the other religions true before Jesus came along, because surely you cannot lead people away from someone who has not yet lived.
Judyism was the true religion then. God will call the Jews to Christ soon and Jesus will return.

None. You have to clip UPCs from boxes of Christ Chex. It takes 100 to get the decoder ring, but 50 will get you a nice "holy grail" ashtray.

You're telling me I tore the backs off all these Bibles for nuthin?

Shucks. Well, I guess they're still good for rolling paper.

None. You have to clip UPCs from boxes of Christ Chex. It takes 100 to get the decoder ring, but 50 will get you a nice "holy grail" ashtray.
That's blasphemy. You are in danger of going to hell. Please ask Jesus to come into your life. I'll pray for you.

I remember you preaching nazism somewhere else. You're not saying it is a religion now are you? That would make people like Hitler gods. I suppose it could be considered a religion in the same way that satanism could be considered a religion.
The Nazis did set up a religion based around the worship of the sun, though it didn't get very far.

Judyism was the true religion then. God will call the Jews to Christ soon and Jesus will return.
Which Judy did they worship? Judy Garland? I think those people are called gays, not Jews.

You're telling me I tore the backs off all these Bibles for nuthin?

Shucks. Well, I guess they're still good for rolling paper.
Tearing up "holy" books is a reward unto itself.

Which Judy did they worship? Judy Garland? I think those people are called gays, not Jews.

Hey-o!

If only you'd worked in something about marriage you would have hit for the cycle.

That's blasphemy. You are in danger of going to hell. Please ask Jesus to come into your life. I'll pray for you.
I hate it when people say they'll pray for me. It's just so condescending. Don't pray for me, pal. I don't need help from an imaginary friend.

You know, if you're going to play "evil clown", you shouldn't reveal your weaknesses so readily. In any case, I'll pray for you, too. :-p

You know, if you're going to play "evil clown", you shouldn't reveal your weaknesses so readily. In any case, I'll pray for you, too. :-p
In return I'll masturbate to internet porn for you. That should even things up.

In return I'll masturbate to internet porn for you. That should even things up.


LMAO......youre too much ;)

Religion simply means your obligation and such.

So I'd say Intended Parenthood.

I don't know why atheists in here are posting atheism as a religion. Religion is based upon faith in a higher being(s). Atheism is based upon basic reason, not faith.

`Atheism Is Also A Religious Position,` Dorfl rumbled.
`No it's not!' said Constable Visit. `Atheism is a denial of a god.'
`Therefore It Is A Religious Position,' said Dorfl. `Indeed, A True Athiest Thinks Of The Gods Constantly, Albeit In Terms Of Denial. Therefore, Athiesm Is A Form Of Belief. If The Athiest Did Not Believe, He Or She Would Not Bother To Deny.'
- Feet Of Clay, Terry Pratchett

Of course, this does not make atheism a religion (it doesn't even say it is, it says it is a religious position) - but it's a nice quote anyway ;)

From the same book:

Another priest said, "Is it true you've said you'll believe in any god whose existence can be proved by logical debate?"
"Yes."
Vimes had a feeling about the immediate future and took a step away from Dorfl.
"But the gods plainly *do* exist," said a priest.
"It Is Not Evident."
A bolt of lightening lanced through the clouds and hit Dorfl's helmet. There as a sheet of flame and then a trickling noise. Dorfl's molten armour formed puddles around his white hot feet.
"I Don't Call That Much Of An Argument, " said Dorfl calmly, from somewhere in the clouds of smoke.
"It's tended to carry the audience," said Vimes, "Up until now."

In return I'll masturbate to internet porn for you. That should even things up.

*raised eyebrow*

I'm a bit surprised you're...advertising your activities like that...

Next time I visit those people I know, those two 23 year old female roommates, over at their place, I'll remember you.

Googleism. It provides evidence of it's truth. Go to www.google.com. It also grants it's adherent's wishes for information. And unlike some religions which promise 72 virgins after you die, Google's (pbuh) image search will give you millions of pictures of naked women right now!
Hallelujah! Can-i-getta-witness!
In my time of need and darkness (winter) when those around me seem to have no consolation about them, and i am indeed unfinished and imperfect but i desire to fix it, i can turn to google and find an answer, nay, a plethora of answer to dispell my unholy dilemma! Even if the paths of truth shift and undulate, i still know that the truth goes and grows and it is UP TO ME TO DECIDE how much of a consequence there is to employ the information from the path i choose to that truth! And although i may continue to be incomplete by far this avatar completes me more than a case of bigotry or submission! I even improve my value to my fellow man and woman by completing my understanding of the world, and my willingness to share!
Praise be!

That's blasphemy. You are in danger of going to hell. Please ask Jesus to come into your life. I'll pray for you.
You seem like a fun one. Have you frequented the "Come and get me, pseudo-christians" thread by Heikoku? I'm sure someone would appreciate your perspective there too.

You know, if you're looking for the Truth on the internet, you really ought to go here:

http://www.etruth.com/

Hallelujah! Can-i-getta-witness!
In my time of need and darkness (winter) when those around me seem to have no consolation about them, and i am indeed unfinished and imperfect but i desire to fix it, i can turn to google and find an answer, nay, a plethora of answer to dispell my unholy dilemma! Even if the paths of truth shift and undulate, i still know that the truth goes and grows and it is UP TO ME TO DECIDE how much of a consequence there is to employ the information from the path i choose to that truth! And although i may continue to be incomplete by far this avatar completes me more than a case of bigotry or submission! I even improve my value to my fellow man and woman by completing my understanding of the world, and my willingness to share!
Praise be!

I hereby declare an Altavistan fatwah on the Sodom and Gommorah of the Googolators and HotBoptists. I will not search my world through your dark lens, no sir! Why, just the other day I innocently ran a GIS on "midget porn" and what did I see but the devil on his knees!

In return I'll masturbate to internet porn for you. That should even things up.
AGAIN, i say "Hallelujah! Canigettawitness!"
This is a fun thread.

I hereby declare an Altavistan fatwah on the Sodom and Gommorah of the Googolators and HotBoptists. I will not search my world through your dark lens, no sir! Why, just the other day I innocently ran a GIS on "midget porn" and what did I see but the devil on his knees!
Yeah, the devil gets 'round like that, i hear. Starts on its knees, then on its back .... but in the end, there's a ring and a contract. *sigh*
Ever hear "Rev. 22:20" from Puscifer? It's on the Underworld sndtk, Maynard James Keenan from Tool sings on it ... got some cool lyrics. Pertinent.
So how much lower would the devil have to go on its knees to fellate a midget? Or was the devil a midget in that case?

I have faith in my reason. Will that do?

I dont think so. Faith is belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. Therefore atheism is based upon reason alone, not faith.

I hereby declare an Altavistan fatwah on the Sodom and Gommorah of the Googolators and HotBoptists. I will not search my world through your dark lens, no sir! Why, just the other day I innocently ran a GIS on "midget porn" and what did I see but the devil on his knees!
Your false god will only lead you into hell where you will stare endlessly at a screen that always displays a 404 error.

Peechism........worship me.

On my knees, for my act of contrition... ;)

I dont think so. Faith is belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. Therefore atheism is based upon reason alone, not faith.

If you knew anything about my reason, you'd know it takes great faith to belive in it. :p

His posts on this thread are the reasons I worship Drunk Commies. I have been converted. :D

If you knew anything about my reason, you'd know it takes great faith to belive in it. :p

His posts on this thread are the reasons I worship Drunk Commies. I have been converted. :D

But where do you come up with ur reasons? Through experiences and observances. Faith is trust in something that isn't actually observed.

The only real religion is Christianity. It has proof in the Bible. Biblical prophecys come true. The Bible code proves its true. All other religions are fakes that lead people away from Jesus.


If I could show you a prophet that was wrong would you change your mind?

If I could show you a prophet that was wrong would you change your mind?
If he showed you a chick tract that said you were wrong would you change yours?

If he showed you a chick tract that said you were wrong would you change yours?


Is Chick a prophet of God that is infallible? ;)

This conversation isn't going anywhere. I suggest that all participants agree to submit the issue to Deacon Mix-a-lot for binding arbitration.

The best religion? Orthodox

Orthodox what?

If I could show you a prophet that was wrong would you change your mind?
Prophet/prophecy ..... needing fruition. Without fruition they're all wrong, even the right-wing blowhards on radio and other stupid motherf*ckers who call a horribly botched situation a "slam-dunk".

Your false god will only lead you into hell where you will stare endlessly at a screen that always displays a 404 error.
Argh! The humanity! The humanity!
The pain! Argh!

Is Chick a prophet of God that is infallible? ;)
Chick seems to think so.

Prophet/prophecy ..... needing fruition. Without fruition they're all wrong, even the right-wing blowhards on radio and other stupid motherf*ckers who call a horribly botched situation a "slam-dunk".

This is a prophet who set a timeline and it failed to pass.

The only real religion is Christianity. It has proof in the Bible. Biblical prophecys come true. The Bible code proves its true. All other religions are fakes that lead people away from Jesus.

woo hoo, back from work to see my thread grow. :D

So how do we know the Bible is true? As someone pointed out, the "coding" works on other significantly large books as well. You can't just say it doesn't. That's arguing against documented tests. Probably not a good idea to swat away evidence just cuz it doesn't fit with a previously held belief.

What's the Most Realistic Religion?

None, all religions are a load of crap.

So out of curiousity, what does have everybody think is the most logical of the religions? I'm not asking which one should be followed, but rather which one appears the most logically consistent and workable. To those without religion, feel free to post which seems to make any sense at all, even if its flawed. I'd be particularly interested especially in what those without religion think.

From my limited knowledge, Buddhism and taoism seem to have some thought-provoking philosophy, but I wouldn't say that any religions are actually logical.

Judyism was the true religion then.
Might you possibly mean "Judaism"?

For me it is the Baha'i Faith which started in 1844 and has as its core beliefs the following principles. When other religionscouldn't even begin to declare that all humans were created by God and were equal, and that women and men were equal the Baha'i had what are now evident truths as core principles. No other religion can clearly make that claim.

Basic Principles of the Bahá'í Faith
The oneness of the world of humanity
The foundation of all religion is one
Religion must be the cause of unity
Religion must be in accord with science and reason
Independent investigation of truth
Equality between men and women
The abolition of all forms of prejudice
Universal peace
Universal education
A universal auxiliary language
Spiritual solution of economic problems
An international tribunal

Fools, can't you see that the most logical religion in existence is the form of Christianity revealed to us in Neon Genesis Evangelion, the absolutely correct word of Hideaki Anno, the greatest prophet of the Lord ever to have lived? Soon his prophesy will be fulfilled and we will have blue-haired Japanese and kick-ass mecha (and massive amounts of death, but let's ignore that).

Actually, here is the list of religions without logical fallacies:






















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Fools, can't you see that the most logical religion in existence is the form of Christianity revealed to us in Neon Genesis Evangelion, the absolutely correct word of Hideaki Anno, the greatest prophet of the Lord ever to have lived? Soon his prophesy will be fulfilled and we will have blue-haired Japanese and kick-ass mecha (and massive amounts of death, but let's ignore that).
Hey! I just bought the box set of Neon Genesis Evangelion! And you reminded me!
I probably would have forgotten about it for weks if someone hadn't mentioned the show.

I'm sure someone already mentioned that "realistic religion" is an oxymoron.

Of the religions that are commonly though of as religions (ie excluding gagnosticism and atheism) Buddhism.
Why?
Lack of a diety: Buddhism does not posit any devinity.
Commanality in the inquiry for truth: Buddhism is based on observation.

Google up: buddhism science, and have an interesting read.

It only works on the bible. The bible is God's evidence for man.

Are you really this stupid? I hope not.


Either you're a particularly brilliant troll, or you're a drooling idiot. Which is it?

Of the religions that are commonly though of as religions (ie excluding gagnosticism and atheism) Buddhism.
Why?
Lack of a diety: Buddhism does not posit any devinity.
Commanality in the inquiry for truth: Buddhism is based on observation and .

Google up: buddhism science, and have an interesting read.
"Observation and ."?

"Observation and ."?


Observation and typos, apparantly. ;)

Observation and typos, apparantly. ;)
Also, what's "gagnosticism"?
I suppose it really *is* observations and typos...
:D

Also, what's "gagnosticism"?

Would you buy a neologism - the philosophy that religion makes one gag?

I suppose it really *is* observations and typos...
:D

Mindfulness is a central tenet.... one I still have trouble with, obviously. (>.<)

Would you buy a neologism - the philosophy that religion makes one gag?
I bet I know a lot of gagnostics then.
:D

I bet I know a lot of gagnostics then.
:D

Including 1 or 2 here...

Give me physcial proof of any of these religions such as Christianity and Buddhism and I will convert. The Bible might as well be one of Aesop's fables for all it's credibility. The Second Coming of Christ? Lmao, just like the U.S.S.R's Five Year Prosperity plan, it's always coming, always. Until then, I'm Proudly Atheist. Here's one of my favourite quotes


I don't care for religious wars, it's like argueing over who's imaginary friend is better

Also to quote one of my heroes, Yuri Gagarin

I don't see any god up here -- (Spoken when he first entered orbit over the earth)

Firstly, Satanism doesn't have a deity (depending on the particular form you worship - Le Vey Satanism is like Catholicism backwards, Crowley-style "Satanism" is basically self-worship, denial of all deity, and work with archetypes / angels / call-em-what-ya-will).

EDIT: Not saying it isn't a religion (as in my opinion any doctrine held with zealous enough thought can be one - Communism / Fascism for instance).

Now Discordianism, there's a religion. It's so damn logical it comes complete with it's own fallacies, riddles, imposibilities etc. But you get to eat Hot Dogs on fridays. And worship in bowling alleys.

Hail Eris!

Now Discordianism, there's a religion. It's so damn logical it comes complete with it's own fallacies, riddles, imposibilities etc. But you get to eat Hot Dogs on fridays. And worship in bowling alleys.

Hail Eris!
!sirE liaH

Firstly, Satanism doesn't have a deity (depending on the particular form you worship - Le Vey Satanism is like Catholicism backwards, Crowley-style "Satanism" is basically self-worship, denial of all deity, and work with archetypes / angels / call-em-what-ya-will).

EDIT: Not saying it isn't a religion (as in my opinion any doctrine held with zealous enough thought can be one - Communism / Fascism for instance).

Now Discordianism, there's a religion. It's so damn logical it comes complete with it's own fallacies, riddles, imposibilities etc. But you get to eat Hot Dogs on fridays. And worship in bowling alleys.

Hail Eris!

Crowley wasn't a Satanist. He was a member of the OTO and the Golden Dawn, and a Thelemite. You've mixed him up with LaVey, who founded the CoS with the exact ideals you've outlined.

PS: FNORD!