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No real point with this thread, just curious.

Make a list of the ones that are/not on the poll if you want.

It is your list so you can post the name of whoever you want eg. War Hero, Family Members, Friends, Politicians, Civil Rights Activists etc.


My list.
In no particular order:

Leifur Eiríksson
Eiríkur Rauði
Jón Sigurðsson
Ingólfur Arnarson
William Wallace
Andrew Murray
Robert the Bruce
Robert Roy McGregor
Michael Collins
George Washington
Joan of Arc

General Tommy Franks

Soldiers

Sisyphus, existentialist version

Ramanujan, Einstein, and Gandhi feature on my list. Genghis Khan as well, if you want a military figure.

Conan the Barbarian
William Wallace
Neo
Captain Jean Luc Picard

Okay the poll is up.
I know it sucks but I got some good ones in there.

Max Barry

Prometheus or Lilith. Or perhaps Loki, or although he was a god, so I suppose he couldn't be considered a true hero.

Thurgood Marshall
Thomas Jefferson
Ann Richards
Barbara Jordan
Molly Ivins
Margeret Sanger
Maya Angelou
Morris Dees
Simon Weisenthal
Frederick the Great
Emperor Julian the Apostate
Boudicca
Hannibal
Aetius
Voltaire
Sam Houston
Samuel Clemens

Okay, I have a lot.These others may not be my heroes, but they'd be interesting to meet.
Alexander the Great
Richard the Lionhearted
Rasputin
Marc Antony
Saladin
Tomyris
Manfred von Richtofen (sp?)
William the conquerer
Eleanor of Aquitane
King Henry II
Katherine Hepburn
Sting
Goran Visnijc
Howard Dean
Aristotle

In no particular order:

Socrates.
George Washington.
Christ.
Peter Parker/Spider-Man.
Alexander the Great.
FDR.
King Arthur Pendragon.
Odysseus.
Winston Churchill.
Julius Caesar.
Marcus Aurelius.
Cicero.

Some myth, some quite real; all a mix of the two, I think.

Manfred von Richtofen (sp?)


Since you asked....

Baron Rittmeister Manfred Albrecht Freiherr von Richthofen.

Since you asked....

Baron Rittmeister Manfred Albrecht Freiherr von Richthofen.
Thanks, I thought it didn't look quite right.

Joan of Arc? What'd she do apart from being a stupid peasant girl? She didn't save France, she won a few minor battles, and everything she won was later given back to the English by the French king in order to have his throne recognized. She didn't lead France, basically she was just a psychotic religious zealot who got roasted. I know several French who hate her and think she shouldn't be worshipped...


Hero?

Any fireman, cop or paramedic who does his/her job.

Joan of Arc? What'd she do apart from being a stupid peasant girl? She didn't save France, she won a few minor battles, and everything she won was later given back to the English by the French king in order to have his throne recognized.
She did what no french male could do as a leader. She gave them the will to fight. Just because another french "leader" later dumped what she accomplished is no fault of her own.

Aetius and Stilicho, heroes of the late Roman Empire, who were too good for the country they served.

To name a few:

Mohandas Gandhi
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Henry David Thoreau
Elizabeth Gurley-Flynn
Joe Hill
Emma Goldman
Sacco and Vanzetti
Ethel and Julius Rosenberg

If the English had won the war, England and France would've become one country under an English king.

Anyway, my short list of POLITICAL heroes (since that seems to be what we're talking about here) includes:

Fidel Castro
Che Guevara
V.I. Lenin
Leon Trotsky
Karl Marx
Rosa Luxemburg
Jean-Paul Marat
George Washington
Rosa Parks
Jesus of Nazareth

And how are these people heroes (to pick a couple):

Margaret Sanger: supported racist forced sterilization of Blacks and Puerto Ricans--being therefore fundamentally opposed to reproductive choice; praised Nazi eugenics policies.

Franklin D. Roosevelt: ordered the imprisonment in concentration camps of tens of thousands of U.S. citizens of Japanese descent.

???

Joan of Arc, Washington

Sir Winston Churchill and Queen Elizabeth I were both inspirational heroes to Britain.

Sir Winston Churchill and Queen Elizabeth I were both inspirational heroes to Britain.

As is Blackadder...

Giovanni Gentile
Benito Mussolini
Jose Antonio Primo De Riviera
Chiang Kai Shek
Plato
Socrates
Admiral Nelson
Emperor Qin

I'll think of some more

Douglas Bader. Simon Weston.

8 pure evil beings from throughout history!

Skeletor
Cobra Commander
The Ku Klux Klam
Hook
Darth Vader
Mojo Jojo
Krang
C.M. Burns

In the last few days, weirdly, I'd have to say Che Guevera. No, i'm not a communist (far from it in fact), and no, i'm not the sort of idiot that would wear a t-shirt or have a poster of that stoopid pop-art portrait of him, but what he did with his life was sort of interesting.

If not him, then maybe Friedrich Nietzsche. Though I'm not sure if I would exactly call him a hero.

Ramanujan most definitely. I think what he achieved without any outside intervention is absolutely incredible, and surpasses the mathematical achievements of Pythagoras, Euler and Newton by quite a margin. A pity such a fine mind should submit to British weather conditions after being used to his Indian climate.
For anyone interested I suggested reading 'the man who knew infinity'.

Llewellyn- The Last Prince of Wales

*Jesus Christ (I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN! i am talking about the MAN.)
*Anton Chekhov (a true artist)
*Vincent Van Gogh (another true artist)
*Fidel Castro (proved that socialism CAN work, despite what anyone says, thankyou very much USA)
*Mohandas Gandhi (super calloused fragile mystic hexed with halitosis. No, seriously, complete respect)
*Sitting Bull (for having the courage to be the resistance)
*Bob Brown (Any Australians out there? I LOVE BOB BROWN)
*Johnny Depp (just because he's gorgeous)

Gandhi. great man.

Ramanujan most definitely. I think what he achieved without any outside intervention is absolutely incredible, and surpasses the mathematical achievements of Pythagoras, Euler and Newton by quite a margin. A pity such a fine mind should submit to British weather conditions after being used to his Indian climate.
For anyone interested I suggested reading 'the man who knew infinity'.
Ramanujan is greater than Pythagoras but Euler and Newton were much greater mathematicians than Ramanujan.

I'm curious as to why more people have voted for William Wallace over Robert the Bruce. I mean, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I sincerely hope none of you are basing your votes on "Braveheart"...

Robert the Bruce seeing as historically my families ancestors are strong supporters of the scottish royal family etc. even to the point of being booted out when the english invaded.
Bastards.
j/k

Che Guevara


Interesting...

http://www.amigospais-guaracabuya.org/oaghf019.php
"...Che Guevara was monumentally vain and epically stupid. He was shallow, boorish, cruel, and cowardly. He was a full of himself, a consummate fraud and an intellectual vacumn. He was intoxicated with a few vapid slogans, spoke in cliches and was a glutton for publicity. But ah!--he DID come out nice in a couple of publicity photos, high cheekbones and all! And we wonder why he's a hit in Hollywood?"

King Leonidas of Sparta...hands down.

Read of on the Battle of Thermopylae. Great stuff.

Murray N. Rothbard (http://mises.org/content/mnr.asp)

Edward I, Hammer of Scots
Henry V, kicked France's arse
Duke of Wellington
Field Marshall Montgomery
Henry VII
Edward IV
Alfred the Great

Why is it half the buggers there fought the English?

All the people of Nationstates who remind me i'm not alone in the darkness.

Interesting...

http://www.amigospais-guaracabuya.org/oaghf019.php
"...Che Guevara was monumentally vain and epically stupid. He was shallow, boorish, cruel, and cowardly. He was a full of himself, a consummate fraud and an intellectual vacumn. He was intoxicated with a few vapid slogans, spoke in cliches and was a glutton for publicity. But ah!--he DID come out nice in a couple of publicity photos, high cheekbones and all! And we wonder why he's a hit in Hollywood?"
People who go to med school are soooooo stupid. People who recognise discrimination are intellectual vacuums.

Edward I, Hammer of Scots
Henry V, kicked France's arse
Duke of Wellington
Field Marshall Montgomery
Henry VII
Edward IV
Alfred the Great

Why is it half the buggers there fought the English?
I knew that question would come. ;)
Like I said, I posted on the poll a few of the greats because I could only post ten.
I guess it is because it has allways taken a great person to stand up to the old English tyranny.
But hey if you other people have any English greats feel free to post them.

In no particular order:

Leifur Eiríksson
Eiríkur Rauði
Jón Sigurðsson
Ingólfur Arnarson
William Wallace
Andrew Murray
Robert the Bruce
Robert Roy McGregor
Michael Collins
George Washington
Joan of Arc

France: Our king did have a claim to the French throne, as strong as any other claimants.
Scotland: Edward I was probably a meddler in affairs which weren't anything to do with him, but the whole medieval history of these two countries is full of England invading Scotland, and vice versa. Ever heard of the Auld Alliance?
William Wallace is rubish, there were better soldiers than him furhter north.
Don't get me started on George Washington.
You're obliviously an American.

France: Our king did have a claim to the French throne, as strong as any other claimants.
Scotland: Edward I was probably a meddler in affairs which weren't anything to do with him, but the whole medieval history of these two countries is full of England invading Scotland, and vice versa. Ever heard of the Auld Alliance?
William Wallace is rubish, there were better soldiers than him furhter north.
Don't get me started on George Washington.
You're obliviously an American.
Is that for me?

I apologise, I find these forums tend to angry-up the blood. Just bit insulted over accusations of "Evil English" syndrome.

I apologise, I find these forums tend to angry-up the blood. Just bit insulted over accusations of "Evil English" syndrome.
Sure, I understand.

Like the abscence of any Englishmen especially considering that the President of the USA admires an Englishman above anyone else; Winston Churchill. But I guess that's because England has only ever been a nasty imperialist!

P.S. Caesar is spelt like this.

Like the abscence of any Englishmen especially considering that the President of the USA admires an Englishman above anyone else; Winston Churchill. But I guess that's because England has only ever been a nasty imperialist!

P.S. Caesar is spelt like this.


You can just go on and correct all spelling on this forum. People make mistakes.
I said in one post 'Old English Tyranny' as in not today. Read the posts.
I also said that all are welcome to post their own list and yes that means English heros too.

ATTENTION

There seems to be a few Englishmen that are hurt because there is no English hero on the list or that many on the list did fight England once.
English or not, you can post your own list of heros and if there are people that admire an English man/woman for something and wants to put his or her name on their list then please do so.

This is not an I Hate England thread.

The list you provided has many, many courageous and prominent people. I am not sure what criteria you're using, so it is difficult to select among them.

My personal choice, however, is Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.. He risked his life to help make life better for people---all people---in the southern sector of the United States, and made important personal sacrifices to bring real change about. In the end, the effort cost him his life. It's impossible to ignore the contribution he made, and even more difficult to dispute how those positive changes continue to impact American and worldwide relations.

Ghandi

I've got one more: Earl of Sandwich, for (apparently) making the sandwich.

ATTENTION

There seems to be a few Englishmen that are hurt because there is no English hero on the list or that many on the list did fight England once.
English or not, you can post your own list of heros and if there are people that admire an English man/woman for something and wants to put his or her name on their list then please do so.

This is not an I Hate England thread.

Glad to hear it. I aint blindly thinking my country is perfect but to suggest that we have done no good for the world at all is very hurtful.

Ok here's a list of my heroes or people I admire in (shall mark the non-English ones):

Arthur Wellesley, The Duke of Wellington (Brilliant Commander);
Lord Admiral Viscount Horatio Nelson (The Napoleon of the seas);
Oliver Cromwell (Saved this country from despotism and anarchy and founded religious toleration in the English state);
Nicolo Machiavelli (no better book on realpolitik than "The Prince" exists);
King Henry II (the finest and yet most tragic monarch in this country's history. Betrayed by his over-glorified son Richard I, the Lionhearted);
Sir Winston Churchill (Provided the effective leadership this country needed to transform this country's darkest moments into it's finest hour);
Martin Luther King Jnr (Why do Americans shoot their best leaders like Lincoln also?);

See? At least someone else has their head screwed on properly.

Hulk Hogan is my hero.


http://austinwm.club.fr/HTLM/Photos/H/Hulk_Hogan/Hulk_Hogan_-_Terry_Bolea_14.jpg

Isn't he awesome?

Karl Marx
Vladimir Illyich Lenin
Rosa Luxemburg
Leon Trotsky
Josip Broz Tito
Nelson Mandela
John MacLean
James Connolly
Che Guevara
Fidel Castro

See? At least someone else has their head screwed on properly.

Me?

Emperor Norton

In no particular order either:

Field Marshall Rommel
General George S. Patton
Hannibal Barca of Carthage
Julius Caeser
Octavius (Augustus)
Napolean Bonaparte
Abraham Lincoln
General Robert E. Lee
David Crockett
Billy Crystal
Joan of arc
Ken Akamatsu
Akira Kurosawa
Charlemagne
F.D.R.
Emperor Trajan

Bugs Bunny

Because he makes me laugh.

You put the Red Baron on the same list as George Washington?

Anyway, in no particular order:

Groucho Marx
Dean Martin
Vladimir Nabokov

you :)

Hans Ulrich Rudel.

The man who scoops the shit out of the urinals at the megaplex.

Emperor Norton

Yeah, anybody who could convince half a state to play along with his delusions has my vote. Don't forget, besides being Emperor Of The United States, he was Protector of Mexico. :D

Llewellyn- The Last Prince of Wales

Good choice. His wife Joanna was fairly impressive as well.

Robert E. Lee. He was the greatest administrative genious in history

The Sultan of Slack - J.R. "Bob" Dobbs.

Who else could it be? I am a Subgenius, after all.

http://www.genreonline.net/Genre_files/Indiana%20Jones%20035.jpg

It was only a matter of time before someone posted this; might as well be me.

William Katt, the Greatest American Hero.

If you don't know who he is, Google him.

Gandhi should be up there, the man had balls of brass.

In terms of war heroes I suppose Audie Murphy and Sgt. Alvin C. York.