NationStates Jolt Archive

SO I am on msn and someone I have not talked to quite awhile sends me a message:

" hey man hows it going, long time no talk"

Me: "ya how you been"

other guy: " I jst got married! wanna see my pics!!"

Me: "i didnt know that, sure man!"

other guy " sure just go to this site, blah blah blah, then you have to go to the msn login screen, then u get to the picture site!"

Me: " geee coool! " (DUUUUH)


CAREFULL THE FOLLOWING LINK HAS A TROJAN
this is the site DO NOT POST LINKS TO TROJANS!!! <<<<< der thats not a msn log in stupid!

So i put in my hotmail password, then he starts laughing telling me he has my password. He could of course see my password, and as such booted me out of msn.

So who the fuck hacks msn? I just use that email address for crap. WTF???

It's not a hack if you deliberately give someone your password, which is what you did.

You just got scammed by a phisher.
With the .NET passport becoming more popular, s/he can asume you identity in any case that requires a .NET passport. Of course, there aren't a great many of those of yet...

It's not a hack if you deliberately give someone your password, which is what you did.


Sure dude I "gave" him my password :rolleyes:

Sure dude I "gave" him my password :rolleyes:

You went to a non-MSN site and plugged in your MSN password. The old bait -n- switch ... oldest trick in the book. You fell for it.

Warning

The site linked does have a trojan, my norton internet security picked up on it.

So for y'all with no protection, don't visit it.

That's social engineering, the true art of the hacker.

Very, very basic social engineering. It's the internet equivalent of "Look behind you!" *run away*

Warning

The site linked does have a trojan, my norton internet security picked up on it.

So for y'all with no protection, don't visit it.

Yeah, but it only affects IE. Mozilla/Netscape users are safe. I checked the code ... it's hilarious. Someone ought to drop an email to and slap him around a little for such a lame attempt at "'1337 ski11z".

Yeah, but it only affects IE. Mozilla/Netscape users are safe. I checked the code ... it's hilarious. Someone ought to drop an email to and slap him around a little for such a lame attempt at "'1337 ski11z".

Damn my IE :(

Someone kick that guys ass!

You just got scammed by a phisher.
With the .NET passport becoming more popular, s/he can asume you identity in any case that requires a .NET passport. Of course, there aren't a great many of those of yet...
True but there is the Bungie forums...

OH MY GOD!!! HEAVEN FORBID HE BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE BUNGIE FORUMS USING YOUR .NET PASSPORT!!! :rolleyes:

What i dont get is what kind of fucking loser would spend time doing this? I mean fuck its msn, for christ's sake...

What i dont get is what kind of fucking loser would spend time doing this? I mean fuck its msn, for christ's sake...
Not just MSN, your .NET passport. At the moment, it is fairly useless. But in theory, the .NET passport seems to have been targetted to be more all-encompassing, and if it were so and you did the same thing, bad things could happen.

Of course, I have no idea why the hell I'm wandering off on this hypothetical tangent...

What i dont get is what kind of fucking loser would spend time doing this? I mean fuck its msn, for christ's sake...

Well ... it's yet another account they now have to fish this same thing to anyone on your buddy list. As for why ... there is no why ... there is only "can I".

I checked the code ... it's hilarious.
The inclusion of the line "LOADING ...........PLZ WAIT" is kind of a tip-off...
Since when does Microsoft use AIM-speak?
:D

Well ... it's yet another account they now have to fish this same thing to anyone on your buddy list. As for why ... there is no why ... there is only "can I".

So it might be a good idea for him to start another account and warn the people on his buddy list (if he can remember them all)?

If he can still log in, he could simply change his password. But the phisher might've done that already...

The inclusion of the line "LOADING ...........PLZ WAIT" is kind of a tip-off...
Since when does Microsoft use AIM-speak?
:D

lol ... yeah ... that gave me a chuckle.

I wonder just how many people this one thing has gotten.

Well ... it's yet another account they now have to fish this same thing to anyone on your buddy list. As for why ... there is no why ... there is only "can I".

i suppose so, I told everyone on my small list that I could give a shit about, but whatever...

If he can still log in, he could simply change his password. But the phisher might've done that already...

If he's even remotely good, he would have changed it before laughing and knocking the victim offline.

abuse@msn.com

Let them know what happened IMMEDIATELY, especially if you used your REAL info to open that account.

What i dont get is what kind of fucking loser would spend time doing this? I mean fuck its msn, for christ's sake...
A hacker would. Well, technically your friend isn't a hacker he's just a tard who learned some basic html skills and used response-o-matic. Didn't take very much effort at all.

If he's even remotely good, he would have changed it before laughing and knocking the victim offline.
He used AIM-speak in what was supposed to be from Microsoft...
Remotely good?
:D

If he's even remotely good, he would have changed it before laughing and knocking the victim offline.

thats what he did, i was already loged into hotmail, but he already changed the password as well as question...

abuse@msn.com

Let them know what happened IMMEDIATELY, especially if you used your REAL info to open that account.
Kind of difficult to e-mail them if his e-mail has just been hijacked, don't ya think? :D

Kind of difficult to e-mail them if his e-mail has just been hijacked, don't ya think? :D
He can create another account, he may already have another account from his ISP, etc...

Kind of difficult to e-mail them if his e-mail has just been hijacked, don't ya think? :D

Well, it should be easy enough to get another e-mail account.

i suppose so, I told everyone on my small list that I could give a shit about, but whatever...

Well, that's all you really can do at this point. Some tips for the future (not being rude, just bein' helpful):

1] Don't use IE. Download Mozilla Firefox or Opera.
2] Make your machine a dual-boot Windows XP / Linux. That way, if your Windows side gets virused, you can still have access to your machine and rid yourself of the evil monkeys. If you're unfamiliar with Linux, fear not, most versions now have an interface as easy as Windows. (I suggest Fedora Core 3)
3] If someone you know sends you to a site to show you some pictures that asks for your password, ask the person to move the pictures to a public server. If they won't, then just explain that while you imagine the pics are lovely, you're not comfortable using your passport password on a non-MS certified site.
4] Don't use Windows XP firewall. It's about as useful as throwing a cup of water at the Sun. Grab AVG 7.0 and spend a little $$ and also install Norton Internet Security. You'll be practically invulnerable to attack and neither program uses many resources - avoid McCaffee like the plague.
5] Don't use MSN messenger or AIM. Yahoo has a pretty secure messenger and ICQ, while bulky, is still reasonable.

He can create another account, he may already have another account from his ISP, etc...
Well, it should be easy enough to get another e-mail account.

My attempt at humor foiled again. I need a new hobby...

A hacker would. Well, technically your friend isn't a hacker he's just a tard who learned some basic html skills and used response-o-matic. Didn't take very much effort at all.

I doubt highly that it was his friend. Chances are likely that his friend got hit by the same thing and, in turn, the people on his buddy list were phished. Probably a chain of this going back 50+ users to find the source.

2] Make your machine a dual-boot Windows XP / Linux. That way, if your Windows side gets virused, you can still have access to your machine and rid yourself of the evil monkeys. If you're unfamiliar with Linux, fear not, most versions now have an interface as easy as Windows. (I suggest Fedora Core 3)
Three is out already?
Damn, I'm behind the times...
5] Don't use MSN messenger or AIM. Yahoo has a pretty secure messenger and ICQ, while bulky, is still reasonable.
IRC! IRC!!

I doubt highly that it was his friend. Chances are likely that his friend got hit by the same thing and, in turn, the people on his buddy list were phished. Probably a chain of this going back 50+ users to find the source.
But the whole thing with the laughing and the "i have you password!!!1"? I'm not saying that these hackers aren't that nerdy but still... It kind of threw me.

Man how could you fool for such a thing. You must feel pretty....... bad lol

Three is out already?
Damn, I'm behind the times...

It's fairly new stuff. I can't vouch for its complete stability, but I've had it on my machine for about a week now and it seems to do just fine. Admittedly, though, I have not jumped down into its roots and fiddled with the finer points.

IRC! IRC!!

Ah! Of course ... there is always that. :)

Kind of difficult to e-mail them if his e-mail has just been hijacked, don't ya think? :D


I actuall did email abuse already, have not heard anything back. i do have a "real" email account, so no biggy, and i already created a new msn account...

Man how could you fool for such a thing. You must feel pretty....... bad lol



The really bad part is I am a computer tech :eek: but i was on the phone working, so i was NOt paying attention, but i do feel INSANELY STUPID! :(

I actuall did email abuse already, have not heard anything back. i do have a "real" email account, so no biggy, and i already created a new msn account...
Look, just leave my joke alone, okay? It's already been through enough injury!! Leave it alone!! :(

When you are using your computer next time try to avoid ringing up the phone sex lines while you use it :D

Just hope that it doesnt get back to you from one of your buddys getting jacked and showing you his home porn movie or some thing =p

Warning

The site linked does have a trojan, my norton internet security picked up on it.

So for y'all with no protection, don't visit it.

SHIT

Jaystan - if you have anything financial tied to that account, or might have had any email confirmations for other accounts in your inbox - you might want to see about notifying and/or cancelling those accounts.

Especially if you are one of those who use the same password in multiple places, like - say - a paypal account tied to that email.....

Jaystan - if you have anything financial tied to that account, or might have had any email confirmations for other accounts in your inbox - you might want to see about notifying and/or cancelling those accounts.

Especially if you are one of those who use the same password in multiple places, like - say - a paypal account tied to that email.....


Actually i think the only thing tied to that account is my world of warcraft account other than that, its crap like game subscriptions, various junk mail etc etc..

It's not a hack if you deliberately give someone your password, which is what you did.
Correct ... more social engeneered (though that is sometimes under the umbrella of hacking)

honestly, if you're dumb enough to give away your password, then you just don't deseve it better.

Correct ... more social engeneered (though that is sometimes under the umbrella of hacking)


I guess one has to have a hobby, seems little too much like " naanananan, i got your account now" very very childest + silly...

honestly, if you're dumb enough to give away your password, then you just don't deseve it better.


:rolleyes: actually it was pretty tricky as the guy had a copy of the .net signin.

I was on the phone and wasnt paying attention while i sgned in though or else i would have noticed the weird ULR and the LOADING.... sign.

Excuses.

Rule 1, never ever give out your passwords, under no circumstance. If you do it, you can blame yourself. And if you don't check URLs, well... same thing applies. Blame's on yourself.

I guess one has to have a hobby, seems little too much like " naanananan, i got your account now" very very childest + silly...
Yeah people are dicks ... probaly some script kiddie too

If he's even remotely good, he would have changed it before laughing and knocking the victim offline.

Maybe I'm being dumb, but why can't he just change his secret question AND password? The guy only has his old one, right? So if he did that, he'd have no way of getting in? Or am I just really stupid? (That's just inviting insults, I guess lol).

Excuses.

Rule 1, never ever give out your passwords, under no circumstance. If you do it, you can blame yourself. And if you don't check URLs, well... same thing applies. Blame's on yourself.
maybe so but dosent make what the guy did any better either

Maybe I'm being dumb, but why can't he just change his secret question AND password? The guy only has his old one, right? So if he did that, he'd have no way of getting in? Or am I just really stupid? (That's just inviting insults, I guess lol).

I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I just had a thought: maybe if the hacker is dumb enough not to have changed the secret question, the guy could get his account back.

One of my online friends spent last evening trying to guess the answers to the question on his friend's msn acccounts. He got 5. :eek:

I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I just had a thought: maybe if the hacker is dumb enough not to have changed the secret question, the guy could get his account back.


Ya ithought about and ya he changed the "secret" question to why are you a fag? :mad:

Anyways was stupid on my part, but again i was not paying attention and besides to hacker guy: get laid buddy, stop trying to hack someone's msn :rolleyes:

I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I just had a thought: maybe if the hacker is dumb enough not to have changed the secret question, the guy could get his account back.

Yes, that's exactly what I meant.

honestly, if you're dumb enough to give away your password, then you just don't deseve it better.
Yes, well, not all of us devote our lives to the great computer gods. :rolleyes:

Yes, well, not all of us devote our lives to the great computer gods. :rolleyes:

thats my thinking as well. Besides again, who the fuck would waste time hacking msn accounts????

Warning

The site linked does have a trojan, my norton internet security picked up on it.

So for y'all with no protection, don't visit it.
My norton missed it. I am screwed. To me it looked like an MSN site, cause the icons that didn't load often don't on my comp, due to a video card issue. And the link was sent to me by Tinkers account.... so if either of us are on your MSN, don't click any links we send you.

Yeah, but it only affects IE. Mozilla/Netscape users are safe. I checked the code ... it's hilarious. Someone ought to drop an email to and slap him around a little for such a lame attempt at "'1337 ski11z".
Still got me through my mozilla.
(Damn me for being computer stupid :( )

My norton missed it. I am screwed. To me it looked like an MSN site, cause the icons that didn't load often don't on my comp, due to a video card issue. And the link was sent to me by Tinkers account.... so if either of us are on your MSN, don't click any links we send you.

I got done by 'tinks' too :mad: :headbang: can't believe i fell for it. was up til 3am changing all my passwords...

I'm glad I stay anonymous.

I'm glad I stay anonymous.

*Bows to the wisdom, then smacks self in head for being a dumbass*

*Bows to the wisdom, then smacks self in head for being a dumbass*
Actually, I'm not really being wise, it's just my nature to be a paranoid ultrabitch. I usually never actually take into consideration actual real threats like this wave of scamming going around, usually I just think "Oh no! What if they can find my house!"
:D

Actually, I'm not really being wise, it's just my nature to be a paranoid ultrabitch. I usually never actually take into consideration actual real threats like this wave of scamming going around, usually I just think "Oh no! What if they can find my house!"
:D


*eats more humble pie* :p

I got done by 'tinks' too :mad: :headbang: can't believe i fell for it. was up til 3am changing all my passwords...
I just finished changing what PW's I can, but I can't change the PW to my bank account until a branch opens :( And this was the e-mail I used for everything official like that.

Branin-> :headbang: <-Wall

I just finished changing what PW's I can, but I can't change the PW to my bank account until a branch opens :( And this was the e-mail I used for everything official like that.

Branin-> :headbang: <-Wall

Oh....shit....thats bad...nasty bad... :(

Never used my hotmail for anything like that...for precisely this reason...i finished all my pw's last night...and will change em again soon, along with setting up a new separate e-mail address just to be sure...

I just want to no why we dont kill people for doing this?
Its just not Cricket!

Oh....shit....thats bad...nasty bad... :(

Never used my hotmail for anything like that...for precisely this reason...i finished all my pw's last night...and will change em again soon, along with setting up a new separate e-mail address just to be sure...
Yeah, I'm not the brightes egg in the basket :(

I got done by 'tinks' too :mad: :headbang: can't believe i fell for it. was up til 3am changing all my passwords...
What do yu mean got done by tinks?

What do yu mean got done by tinks?

Well a person masquerading as 'Tink' lead me to the site and i was too tired and stupid enough to notice the actual web address...so done by 'tink'... :mad: :headbang:

and no not in that way ;) :p

Yeah, I'm not the brightes egg in the basket :(

no worries...me neither...at least its gonna turn me into a paranoid safety freek... :D

Well a person masquerading as 'Tink' lead me to the site and i was too tired and stupid enough to notice the actual web address...so done by 'tink'... :mad: :headbang:

and no not in that way ;) :p
See thats why im not a friend of Democracy.
Damn Freedoms.

i was ...done by 'tink'...
:eek:
and no not in that way ;) :p
Sure.... WHere's the fun in that?

See thats why im not a friend of Democracy.
Damn Freedoms.

Ah well, something like this will happen to all of us at one timeor another, just gotta pick up the pieces and move on...

:eek:

Sure.... WHere's the fun in that?

you'd have to ask her that yourself! ;)

Ah well, something like this will happen to all of us at one timeor another, just gotta pick up the pieces and move on...Whew. Makes me glad I was already a paranoid Mac-using freak who hides behind a firewall and at least six email accounts for varying degrees of importance :D

Whew. Makes me glad I was already a paranoid Mac-using freak who hides behind a firewall and at least six email accounts for varying degrees of importance :D

I got 3 firewalls and 2 anit virus, so i avoided the trojan! :D

But firewalls and anti virus' don't prevent stupidity :( :headbang:

Tink says sorry Branin and Kellarly
Its Jayastans fault.

I got 3 firewalls and 2 anit virus, so i avoided the trojan! :D

But firewalls and anti virus' don't prevent stupidity :( :headbang:That's what paranoia's for.

Tink says sorry Branin and Kellarly
Its Jayastans fault.
I can't blame her, I fell for it as well.

Oh yeah she also said
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Oh yeah she also said <snip teh fluffles>

Tell her :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: (tell, not do :p )

Oh yeah she also said
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
Wow - they're all slightly out of sync, like a Mexican wave...

Tink says sorry Branin and Kellarly
Its Jayastans fault.

Its not her fault...only my own studpidity :( :headbang: , you can give her a :fluffle: from me too!

But its all sorted now....mmmmm paranoia!

Ill do that i actually have always found them rather nuisiating/Sicking
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Smiley spam bad, k?

I like a good fluffle as much as the next, but not pages of 'em.

Danke.

Smiley spam bad, k?

I like a good fluffle as much as the next, but not pages of 'em.

Danke.
*resitsts urge to fluffle Kat*


K, sorry.

Tink says sorry Branin and Kellarly
Its Jayastans fault.


How is that my fault? She put in her password just like me. :rolleyes:

Could everyone stop getting hacked, please?

Could everyone stop getting hacked, please?


Thats why i posted in the first place as some people on nation states have me on der msn, like tink...

It's not just an NS thing though. Lots of random people I know have been hacked recently, though I'm not sure if it was from the same scam.

other guy " sure just go to this site, blah blah blah, then you have to go to the msn login screen, then u get to the picture site!"That probably should have been the tip-off right there.

I didn't read the stuff out there about phishing but I'm VERY suspicious of stuff like that and I only go to links provided by people I trust. Anything like that is just a red flag for me, and has always been since I first started using the Internet.

It's not just an NS thing though. Lots of random people I know have been hacked recently, though I'm not sure if it was from the same scam.


i think its a little club of retards, i think, hacking

Jeez and they say Americans are stupid...

Just kidding, everyone will get scammed once in there life, whether it will be that obvious Im not sure. Once in Italy a guy tried to sell me some weird little trinket (BTW the guy was a gypsy) and as I walked away the thing broke right in my hand! I walked back over to the guy demanded my money back and when he didnt give it I said, ok, walked about 10 yards away than chucked the thing at him, hit him right in his little brown skull, I laughed so hard, that was worth 2.50 Euros.

It than landed in the trevi fountain and I was fined 15 Euros for littering.

I had till the end of the month to pay it, so I just went back to America in two weeks and they are probably hunting me down as we speak!

I only go to links provided by people I trust.

That's the point. This person appeared to be someone Jayastan knew, because he'd already phished Jayastan's friend.

How is that my fault? She put in her password just like me. :rolleyes:
Hey dont shoot the messenger
This one shoots back ;)

Jeez and they say Americans are stupid...

Just kidding, everyone will get scammed once in there life, whether it will be that obvious Im not sure. Once in Italy a guy tried to sell me some weird little trinket (BTW the guy was a gypsy) and as I walked away the thing broke right in my hand! I walked back over to the guy demanded my money back and when he didnt give it I said, ok, walked about 10 yards away than chucked the thing at him, hit him right in his little brown skull, I laughed so hard, that was worth 2.50 Euros.

It than landed in the trevi fountain and I was fined 15 Euros for littering.

I had till the end of the month to pay it, so I just went back to America in two weeks and they are probably hunting me down as we speak!
So are you saying the Rumanian Hungarian Bulgarian German SSers should have wiped more out?

YOU can get your account back! I did. I gave the step by step in my thread "Info. for those who have been hacked by the .net passport freak." YES BRANIN, JAYSTAN, AND WHOEVER YOU ARE!

If you fell for that, I suggest you keep your wallet a little closer....

Jeez and they say Americans are stupid...

Just kidding, everyone will get scammed once in there life, whether it will be that obvious Im not sure. Once in Italy a guy tried to sell me some weird little trinket (BTW the guy was a gypsy) and as I walked away the thing broke right in my hand! I walked back over to the guy demanded my money back and when he didnt give it I said, ok, walked about 10 yards away than chucked the thing at him, hit him right in his little brown skull, I laughed so hard, that was worth 2.50 Euros.

It than landed in the trevi fountain and I was fined 15 Euros for littering.

I had till the end of the month to pay it, so I just went back to America in two weeks and they are probably hunting me down as we speak!


Awesome,"Hey everyone, lets through keep junk at gypsys!"

Awesome,"Hey everyone, lets through keep junk at gypsys!"
YOU MAY LEAVE, NOW! THEY DO NOT NEED THIS!