NationStates Jolt Archive

I love this great land of mine for numerous reason:

1. Where else could a jerk like myself make it?

2. Where else can someone without limbs be successful in business and in life?

3. Where else can I go to a tropical beach, go to the artic, walk in a rain forest, drive through prairies and desert, ski in snow covered mountains, and live in some of the largest cities, all without leaving the country?

3. Where else can I go to a tropical beach, go to the artic, walk in a rain forest, drive through prairies and desert, ski in snow covered mountains, and live in some of the largest cities, all without leaving the country?
China?

China?

Nope!

Where in China is the Artic Circle?

Nope!

Where in China is the Artic Circle?
The Artic circle is nowhere. :rolleyes:

Nope!

Where in China is the Artic Circle?
i dont know, where in america is a rain forest

The Artic circle is nowhere. :rolleyes:

Thanks.

i dont know, where in america is a rain forest

Hawaii! Also China doesn't grow coffee beans either.

3. Where else can I go to a tropical beach, go to the artic, walk in a rain forest, drive through prairies and desert, ski in snow covered mountains, and live in some of the largest cities, all without leaving the country?
without the arctic circle, Argentina - hardly a beacon of brilliance

Nope!

Where in China is the Artic Circle?
Where in the USA is the Arctic circle? Canada does not count.

I love this great land of mine for numerous reason:

1. Where else could a jerk like myself make it?

2. Where else can someone without limbs be successful in business and in life?

3. Where else can I go to a tropical beach, go to the artic, walk in a rain forest, drive through prairies and desert, ski in snow covered mountains, and live in some of the largest cities, all without leaving the country?

Where's the 'artic', Johnny?

Apparently America is 'great' because people who can't be bothered to learn or retain their schooling can go on to do well in business, regardless of how many limbs they possess.

As most of us godless non-Americans know, there is no 'artic'. There is, of course, the Arctic, but that must just be something for Europeans.

Right Johnny?

Alaska?

Where in the USA is the Arctic circle? Canada does not count.

It's a little thing we like to call "Alaska."

Why are you arguing about the arctic circle?

Heck, I just think of America when I ask; who gave us the automobile? The lightbulb? Penicillin? Computers? And, of course, the (good) action movie.

Hooah

Actually lol the lightbulb and pennicilin were invented in Canada lmao omg rofl

Where in the USA is the Arctic circle? Canada does not count.


Does Alaska count?

AND: USA grows coffee beans. We have a winner.

Actually lol the lightbulb and pennicilin were invented in Canada lmao omg rofl

How do you invent pennicilin?

Who invented the lightbulb?

oh and the Chinese gave us good action movies lol and the first car was german
lol the telephone wireless transmitter and insulin also invented in Canada hmm assembly line in some south american company no no americans dont invent, they steal and patent lol

Why are you arguing about the arctic circle?

Heck, I just think of America when I ask; who gave us the automobile? The lightbulb? Penicillin? Computers? And, of course, the (good) action movie.

Hooah
and lets break thsoe down

who gave us the wheel, the engine, the discovery tha tbacteria even exist, etc etc

Does Alaska count?
Yes, but you have to leave the country and go through Canada to get to Alaska. ;)

Who really wants to go to the artic circle anyways. Freezing up there

Who really wants to go to the artic circle anyways. Freezing up there
Exactly the point I just wanted to make

Yes, but you have to leave the country and go through Canada to get to Alaska. ;)

For like two minutes-that really doesnt count

Teh Usa Suxors

Who really wants to go to the artic circle anyways. Freezing up there
Surprisingly many.

Yes, but you have to leave the country and go through Canada to get to Alaska. ;)
and shit, you cant even get to hawaii by car. how long does it to take to get to england from new york and hawaii from california

Yes, but you have to leave the country and go through Canada to get to Alaska. ;)

You don't have to go through Canada! You don't need a passport to visit Alaska.

Heck, I just think of America when I ask;
lets see..


who gave us the automobile?
Germans

The lightbulb?
The one in use today was invented by Edison, but the very first lightbulb might not have been, its disputed

Penicillin?
A Brit

Computers?
Various nations, mostly Betchley Park in the UK. Oh, and Babbage

And, of course, the (good) action movie.

Hooah
big achievement

Who really wants to go to the artic circle anyways. Freezing up there

I like to hunt Polar Bears.

Penicillin had to be invented because you cant just mess around with mold and get the right one that easy good god lol. Now seriously i dont care lol. All i can say is america isnt that great a country. Compared to our health care which we pay very very little for yours is slow and ungainly and you spend way to much on items [that arent junk food] lol so really is it that great to live there? not to mention that americas educational budgest is literally a quarter of say britain canada or japans, with say ten times as many people as canada and about 6 times as many as britain. So its not all roses man

You don't have to go through Canada! You don't need a passport to visit Alaska.
you dont need a passport to visit anywhere in the EU, if you live in the EU

and shit, you cant even get to hawaii by car. how long does it to take to get to england from new york and hawaii from california


Last time I checked, when I wasn't too hungry, we had 50 states which include Hawaii and Alaska.

you dont need a passport to visit anywhere in the EU, if you live in the EU


If you are a citizen of the US you simply must.

If you are a citizen of the US you simply must.
The point is that just because you dont need a passport to get somewhere doesnt mean you dont have to leave your country

Last time I checked, when I wasn't too hungry, we had 50 states which include Hawaii and Alaska.
which wasnt really the point i was making

Penicillin had to be invented because you cant just mess around with mold and get the right one that easy good god

not true, penicillin was ACCIDENTALLY discovered when a scientist realized that a certain mold was killing all his bacteria cultures

Penicillin had to be invented because you cant just mess around with mold and get the right one that easy good god lol. Now seriously i dont care lol. All i can say is america isnt that great a country. Compared to our health care which we pay very very little for yours is slow and ungainly and you spend way to much on items [that arent junk food] lol so really is it that great to live there? not to mention that americas educational budgest is literally a quarter of say britain canada or japans, with say ten times as many people as canada and about 6 times as many as britain. So its not all roses man

Penicillin could not be invented, like how Canadians say 'we invented insulin'.

You don't pay very much for your healthcare? Sure but let's look at your taxes. Our healthcare is still one of the top ones in the world.

America's educational budget is mostly funded through each state. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that the Fed should fund our educations. Many states have no problems funding education.

Thanks 'man'!

The point is that just because you dont need a passport to get somewhere doesnt mean you dont have to leave your country

It's still your country. And when you land it's American soil.

It's still your country. And when you land it's American soil.
which wasnt the point i was making

EDIT: You still havent told me why you dont love Argentina, it fulfills most of your points

which wasnt the point i was making

EDIT: You still havent told me why you dont love Argentina, it fulfills most of your points


I don't love Argentina as it doesn't fullfil most of my points, plus they love Nazis there!

I don't love Argentina as it doesn't fullfil most of my points, plus they love Nazis there!
i think youll find it does and they dont

although i suppose it would help if youd been there...

i think youll find it does and they dont

although i suppose it would help if youd been there...

Argentina is a mostly temperate but arid in the southeast, and subantartic in the southwest.

Now where are the tropical beaches, great lakes, artic tundra, coffee fields, sprawling plains (it's less then 3/10's the size of the US), and where are all of those Nazis hiding these days? Yup, Argentina is truely a tourist Mecca.

Why would I want to go someplace where English isn't the main language?

Argentina is a mostly temperate but arid in the southeast, and subantartic in the southwest.

Now where are the tropical beaches, great lakes, artic tundra, coffee fields, sprawling plains (it's less then 3/10's the size of the US), and where are all of those Nazis hiding these days?
well, going by your original post:
Where else can I go to a tropical beach, go to the artic, walk in a rain forest, drive through prairies and desert, ski in snow covered mountains, and live in some of the largest cities, all without leaving the country?
like i said, ignoring the arctic and the tropics

rainforest: the north
desert: in the andes
praries: there are plains there as well
snow covered mountains: the andes
largest cities: buenos aires

now, if you want to add in lakes and tundra, visit Patagonia

and the Nazis? theyve been overthrown in case you didnt know

Why would I want to go someplace where English isn't the main language?
because thats massive ignorance

because thats massive ignorance


That's your opinion. I like to stay on my own side of the street. That's why they made gutters.

That's your opinion. I like to stay on my own side of the street. That's why they made gutters.
if you dont want to experience other cultures, then fine - ignorance is bliss

some of us like to see other places though

not true, penicillin was ACCIDENTALLY discovered when a scientist realized that a certain mold was killing all his bacteria cultures

No penicillin wasn't discovered. A mould called Penicillium was discovered by a SCOTSMAN, from scotland in teh UK to all of you self involved foreigners ;) RThis guy was called Alexander Fleming. In actual fact Joseph Lister (who also and more commonly known created and used the first anti-septic spray while in surgery, this guy was english) first discovered mould in his lab fighting off and infection, but he was busy with something else, so he missed the opportunity to save many lives. Still, his work was revolutionary enough for many lifetimes dedication.

Penicillin was first developed by a team known as the Oxford team. the team was led by Howard Florey an AUSTRALIAN during the second world war. In the team was Ernst Chain, a part RUSSIAN, part GERMAN jew, who decided he would be better off in america (good idea eh?)

And about that action film, one great american action film that I like was U-571. Not just because it was a great action film in its own right but the *add sarastic tone* the americans really did that 1. Flippin' 'eck! Us British took that one, the crew of HMS Bulldog, of the Royal Navy. Fair dues, at the end of the film, it did say that us british got a few enigmas aswell, but alot of relatives were lost in that operation, and many families were offended by the directors and producers choice on who took U-571.

well, going by your original post:

like i said, ignoring the arctic and the tropics

rainforest: the north
desert: in the andes
praries: there are plains there as well
snow covered mountains: the andes
largest cities: buenos aires

now, if you want to add in lakes and tundra, visit Patagonia

and the Nazis? theyve been overthrown in case you didnt know

It is not tundra. They are not in the Antartic or Artic regions.
What rainforest is that exactly?
Yes they have praries, but ours are bigger, with more fun stuff.
Andes are nice, but not as many ski resorts as in our mountains.
Largest cities NY, LA, Chicago, Philly, Miami.

Checkmate.

if you dont want to experience other cultures, then fine - ignorance is bliss

some of us like to see other places though

I can experience many cultures without leaving my country. Can you?

I can experience many cultures without leaving my country. Can you?

Gee, Johnny - you can experience the whole world from right in front of you, on the internet. Does that make looking at photos of spring rolls tastier than hauling your ass out to Chinatown for lunch?

I think not. Why don't you Americans just stay home, lock all your doors, and sing each other's praises all day long? It beats having to hear your whingeing all the time...

1. Where else could a jerk like myself make it?

Tons of places, like France.

2. Where else can someone without limbs be successful in business and in life?

Tons of places, like France.

3. Where else can I go to a tropical beach, go to the artic, walk in a rain forest, drive through prairies and desert, ski in snow covered mountains, and live in some of the largest cities, all without leaving the country?

Several countries which still hold colonial territories, such as France and for instant its "Departements d'outre mer".

Gee, Johnny - you can experience the whole world from right in front of you, on the internet. Does that make looking at photos of spring rolls tastier than hauling your ass out to Chinatown for lunch?

I think not. Why don't you Americans just stay home, lock all your doors, and sing each other's praises all day long? It beats having to hear your whingeing all the time...

You Europeans should just stay away from us too, as we like carjacking and robbing your sorry asses.

Tons of places, like France.



Tons of places, like France.



Several countries which still hold colonial territories, such as France and for instant its "Departements d'outre mer".

Territories are not the nation.

'Tons'-nice.

You Europeans should just stay away from us too, as we like carjacking and robbing your sorry asses.

Proud American though I am, I half to ask, WTF???

People like J.W. give us a bad name.

I can experience many cultures without leaving my country. Can you?

you may be able to do that, but they all follow the same code. For instance, children being brainwashed from the start of school, by being forced to salute to the flag and swear aleiggance, EVERY MORNING, that is universal in your country and as far as I see, that is one way of carryin on a trend of every thing else in your countries. Also your culture is based on greed and oil, fair enough, so is ours, but atleast most of my nations population isn't clinically obese.

It is not tundra. They are not in the Antartic or Artic regions.
What rainforest is that exactly?
Yes they have praries, but ours are bigger, with more fun stuff.
Andes are nice, but not as many ski resorts as in our mountains.
Largest cities NY, LA, Chicago, Philly, Miami.

Checkmate.
what rainforest?

the one around the Iguacu waterfall, its pretty impressive. i spent a week working there one summer, helping with reforestation and suchlike. very nice place

i dont think all definitions of tundra would specify that it must be in either the arctic or antarctic circles

doesnt matter how big a prarie is, its still there - who decides whats "fun" anyway?

Populations?
Buenos Aires ~ 12 million citizens
NY ~ 8 million citizens
Miami ~ 350,000 citizens (even Belfast is bigger than that...)
Chicago ~ 10 million citizens
Philly ~ 1.5 million people
LA ~ 10 million people

nice try

Territories are not the nation.

Actually, they are. "Les departements d'outre mer" are no more separate from France than is for instance l'Ile de France, where Paris is situated. They are pretty much like Hawaii and Alaska. Non-contiguous territories. *waits for you to grasp the simple notion that nothing in the word "territory" makes anything less part of a country*

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_France):

"4 overseas regions (régions d'outre-mer): Guadeloupe, French Guiana, Martinique, and Réunion, which have the same status as metropolitan regions (as much as Hawaii has the same status as a continental US state), each of these overseas regions also being an overseas département (département d'outre-mer, or DOM), with the same status as a département of metropolitan France."

From Wikipedia: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%E9partement_d%27outre-mer)

"As integral parts of the French Republic, they are represented in the National Assembly, Senate and Economic and Social Council, elect a Member of the European Parliament (MEP), and also use the Euro as their currency.

Since 1982, following the French government's policy of decentralization, they have elected regional councils with powers similar to those of the régions of metropolitan France."

And if you want deserts and antarctic conditions, look no further than Les Terres australes et antarctiques françaises.

It looks to me like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Actually lol the lightbulb and pennicilin were invented in Canada lmao omg rofl

Nope, they were ivented/discovered in Scotland.

Has no one yet realized this guy is a troll?

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Oh, shit. He's serious, isn't he?

Largest cities NY, LA, Chicago, Philly, Miami.
Checkmate.
Hey! Phoenix is bigger than Miami, and we're closing on Philly (the Metro area is actually larger, I think).
Course, it's still a terrible place to live-there's nothing to do. Arizona is a cultural wasteland.

The US, while certainly preferable to a lot of countries in the world, isn't the best by any stretch of the imagination. It's hard to define the "best" country anyways. JW, the criteria you listed could be met in a number of other nations anyways, as others have pointed out.

Los Angelos does not have 10 million people it had 3.7 million in 2000 census and I doubt it jumped to 10 million in 4 years. If you are counting all tthe suburbs it would excede 10 million. You also have to remember Americas cities aren't as big anymore population wise because were goingh through a period of suburbanization. I love America because of many reasons. We set the example for democracy for the modern world. Our system has worked great and I love the 2nd amendment. We are a melting pot of many people and cultures. We tolerate religion, ethnic backrounds and of course captialism. We had many bumps in the road in the past to perfect our system and we will continue to do so. I love to pay tribute to our flag every morning and pay tribute to my country. It isn't like your forced to say the pledge you have a choice. I love this country because it has given so many groups of people a chance to be free and pass on the American Dream which comes in many forms. Sorry for the long post now tear it up if you like.

Yes, but you have to leave the country and go through Canada to get to Alaska. ;)

what if you fly around canada? :sniper:

and I love the 2nd amendment.

who doesnt love the 2nd amendment.

who doesnt love the 2nd amendment.

We, who live in countries with better constitutions.

We, who live in countries with better constitutions.
or even those without a written constitution...so its completely flexible and we dont get hung up on outdated principles and dogmas

We, who live in countries with better constitutions.

An armed civilian is a Citizen, an unarmed civilian is a Subject.

Why are you arguing about the arctic circle?

Heck, I just think of America when I ask; who gave us the automobile? The lightbulb? Penicillin? Computers? And, of course, the (good) action movie.

Hooah
The first prototype automobile was invented in France.
Edison did NOT invent the lightbulb, he simply improved on the design. The inventer was in England.)
Penicillin was also invented in England.
The first device that might be considered to be a computer in the modern sense of the word was conceived by the eccentric British mathematician and inventor Charles Babbage.
I'm not sure about action movies, but I do know that Vladimir Kosma Zworykin, a Russian, invented television.

who doesnt love the 2nd amendment.
Well, the people who got shot here. (http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--mallshooting0214feb14,0,3387446.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork)
Besides, the second amendment says nothing about normal people with weapons- it says that militia need to be able to bear arms. (In case you don't know, the National Guard is basically the milita.)

An armed civilian is a Citizen, an unarmed civilian is a Subject.
Maybe in the US

but here we have this thing called the Nationality Act. Part of the "constitution" - if youre born here, youre a citizen

we also have a House of Lords thats very efficient at upholding civil rights

Well, the people who got shot here. http://www.kpvi.com/index.cfm?page=nbcheadlines.cfm&ID=24065

Besides, the second amendment says nothing about normal people with weapons- it says that militia need to be able to bear arms. (In case you don't know, the National Guard is basically the milita.)

Then why is it lumped in with the other nine amendments of the Bill of Rights, amendments that concern individual rights? A logical thought train leads most to believe that because of this, the 2nd is addressing the people, as well.

Maybe in the US

but here we have this thing called the Nationality Act. Part of the "constitution" - if youre born here, youre a citizen

we also have a House of Lords thats very efficient at upholding civil rights

That's not what I meant. Of course everyone born here is a citizen.

If you are unarmed, then the government can force unjust laws on the people. If they are armed, then it cannot. Hence, being 'subject' to the will of the government or being able to decide your own path.

That's not what I meant. Of course everyone born here is a citizen.

If you are unarmed, then the government can force unjust laws on the people. If they are armed, then it cannot. Hence, being 'subject' to the will of the government or being able to decide your own path.
ok,
Not in the UK they cant

An armed civilian is a Citizen, an unarmed civilian is a Subject.

Not anyplace civilised.

Not anyplace civilised.

Please, define civilized. I ask because many oppressive and unjust governments rule or ruled over "civilized" nations.

It stats this in the 2nd amendment

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the secruity of a free state, the right of people to bear arms shall not be infringed.

I am actually thinking this thread is stupid. For one this guy is stating that he loves his country. Whats wrong with that?
Second, you people are fighting over which country is better. Each country has their advantages and diadvantages.

or even those without a written constitution...so its completely flexible and we dont get hung up on outdated principles and dogmas

its called "amending", so if they become outdated, they can be brought up to date.

and as far as the qoute"An armed civilian is a Citizen, an unarmed civilian is a Subject." i love that saying!!!! LONG LIVE THE NRA!!!!!!!!!! protectors of the 2nd amendment.

Please, define civilized.

Anyplace where human rights and the rule of law are adhered to.

Well, the people who got shot here. (http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--mallshooting0214feb14,0,3387446.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork)
Besides, the second amendment says nothing about normal people with weapons- it says that militia need to be able to bear arms. (In case you don't know, the National Guard is basically the milita.)

hmmmmm. it doesnt? Im preety sure it says "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, shall not be infringed.

American's don't need a passport to go across the Canadian Border, just as Canadian's don't need one to get across the American Border. The Canadian/USA Border is the largest unprotected border crossing in the world.

It also takes a hell of alot longer then 2 minutes to drive from the bottom of BC to Alaska. CIA World Fact Book says, "(Canada is) somewhat larger than the US." So it is natural to assume that it would be a trek to get to Alaska. Not to mention there is no direct route to take. You are actually looking at a near 26 hour drive once you cross the border, and that would only get you to that long stretch of cost Alaska takes, not even to the intresting parts.

Canada also has the things that were listed in the first post in this thread. British Columbia alone has Snowy Mountains, Rain Forests, a Desert, Small towns and large cities.

Okay, so Canada is missing a tropical beach... But that can change soon and the British Virgin Islands, and another Island in the caribbean has expressed intrest in becoming Canadian Provinces.

And that is why I love Canada, and I love the USA. Regardless of the Politics that people hate the USA for, we live in two amazingly stunning and beautiful countries. Hey, I also love the fact that if I want to goto a tropical beach, our countries have such good relations, that it isnt much of a hassel to do so in the US :)

You Europeans should just stay away from us too, as we like carjacking and robbing your sorry asses.


If you dont chill out, youre gonna get deleted one day. I think its time we began that process of me turning you into a Care Bear, like I was talking about earlier today. Currently, youd be "Is Mean-A-Lot Bear"

i dont know, where in america is a rain forest

Puerto Rico

If you dont chill out, youre gonna get deleted one day. I think its time we began that process of me turning you into a Care Bear, like I was talking about earlier today. Currently, youd be "Is Mean-A-Lot Bear"

Chill out. Ha, I guess you didn't read what I responded to.

BTW I can't chill out, I'm really high strung. And what I said was full of truth. Think of the German tourists in Florida. ;)