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Who do you think will get the olympics in 2012?
London, Paris, Madrid, New York or Moscow?

Here's hoping it isn't London.

I hope its Paris...I don't know why. New York? Deff. not. London? noooo. Moscow? Who wants to go to Russia for the olympics?

i vote romania. or anywhere in the carpathian mountains.
or, iraq. they should have their infrastructure and shit straightened out by then.

A third world country? Much to dangerous nowadays...

A third world country? Much to dangerous nowadays...
i was dreaming. make a note right now, that every time you see me post on this forum, it will never make sense, allright?

Cool...I think???? :confused:

I hope not New York. I fear the whole event would be tainted by endless media references to the Twin Towers attack.

They should go to NY because NY is the best place in the world and people would actually go to them.

Well if Bloomberg has anything to do with it, it will be NY. He loves the $. MOscow seems to be the most appealing.

Whoever slips the IOC the most cash will host the 2012 games!

I think Europe would be better...Almopst every language on teh World is spoken in Europe. (Except for japanese and Chinese)

New York? No way!!! America has no time to host olimpys. They need to reboute the economy first.

I think Europe would be better...Almopst every language on teh World is spoken in Europe. (Except for japanese and Chinese)

New York? No way!!! America has no time to host olimpys. They need to reboute the economy first.

Newsflash. The whole word economy is not too great. Olimpys? Argh what the hell is that! When you criticize my state at least spell correctly.

New York. Could turn too political, also the Americans had the winter olympics last time

Moscow. Russian infrastructure is too poor to support it (and to all those who think London's is poor, Moscow is far worse belive me)

So its down rearly to the three European entrents. I personally believe it will come down to a dead heat between London and Madrid. Paris recently had a significent set back with their swiming pool and London will be ready before them. The only significent problems London is having is public confidence and transport. And I think transport will be sorted by then.

Layarteb? I'm not offending your state, and that was a typo.

We all know that the economy in the World is down and we all know why...

Only problem with Europe is that Athens was an economic disaster. I'm not so sure Paris or Madrid would be any different. Also, with Madrid, there was just another bombing recently from the ETA. The Olympics would be a perfect stand for the ETA to wreck havoc!

Layarteb? I'm not offending your state, and that was a typo.

We all know that the economy in the World is down and we all know why...

To say that we have no time to host the Olympics is a horrendous insult. New York has time for anything and at any time in any situation during any apocalypse.

Paris. Or at least they're the favourites for it at the moment.

Only problem with Europe is that Athens was an economic disaster. I'm not so sure Paris or Madrid would be any different. Also, with Madrid, there was just another bombing recently from the ETA. The Olympics would be a perfect stand for the ETA to wreck havoc!

London then. The British economy is a powerhouse at present compared to the rest of the world. It could well survive any problems the olympics would cause and there has been no terrorist problems there of late.

Paris. Or at least they're the favourites for it at the moment.

Paris just had a nasty set back regarding their swimming pool. Its anyones game rearly.

London then. The British economy is a powerhouse at present compared to the rest of the world. It could well survive any problems the olympics would cause and there has been no terrorist problems there of late.

Indeed. The pound is doing exceptionally well compared to both the Euro and the Dollar. London would probably be the most logically non-NY choice.

New York........I see nothing interesting there.

But with London, its a cultural centre. You got the buckingham palace, tower of london and other medieval treats.

Same with Paris. You got the notre dam place, the eiffel tower, champ elysees (sp.) and so forth.

New York? Loads of skyscrapers, a very very big park and a bridge.

New York........I see nothing interesting there.

But with London, its a cultural centre. You got the buckingham palace, tower of london and other medieval treats.

Same with Paris. You got the notre dam place, the eiffel tower, champ elysees (sp.) and so forth.

New York? Loads of skyscrapers, a very very big park and a bridge.

I agree...Anywhere in Europe would be nice. France has beautiful museums you can visit...

Who cares?

We all know that the economy in the World is down and we all know why...
I know why, overspeculation in tech stocks that had no real business plan.

France has a much worse economy than ours. They have double digit unemployment. Our unemployment rates are falling rapidly here with 2 million new jobs in the last year.

New York........I see nothing interesting there.

But with London, its a cultural centre. You got the buckingham palace, tower of london and other medieval treats.

Same with Paris. You got the notre dam place, the eiffel tower, champ elysees (sp.) and so forth.

New York? Loads of skyscrapers, a very very big park and a bridge.

New York, world financial & media capital. Largest city in US. Most diverse city in the US. One of the few cities in the US where the subways DON'T stop. Less smog than many other cities in the US and world (surprisingly). 8 million people. Definition a sense of honor to the city therein the Olympics would be playing on that. It is, regardless of what, an honor to host the Olympics. We'll eat that right up!

I was more hinting towards :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :sniper: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5:

New york has no cultural heritage.

^^ Exactly what I'm saying.

So what if its financially superior? Its just filled with loads of skyscrapers. What are the tourists gonna do there? Shop? Go in the park? Shop again? Walk the Brooklyn Bridge maybe? Shop yet again?

But with European cities, you have monuments and museums to visit. As I said above. And France's metro is not far behind NY's...

New york has no cultural heritage.

I don't think that's true. Maybe it has less cultural heritage than some of the other places listed, but not no cultural heritage.

true, but Paris' or London's is much more interesting...

America is all about shopping.

The Queen said herself that Paris would win over London because the people there want it more then us. Oh yes, really encouraging.

Go Paris!

America is all about shopping.

I disagree. I live in America; I can't remember the last time I shopped.

Maybe that's me just being a midwesterner, though.

I dont know if its because im Russian but I would rather the olympics to be held in Moscow. I lived there for 3 years and think its a beutiful city, locked with culture and nice landmarks. Besides it would be nice for a once feared country to be joined with the rest of the world through the olympics. Not boycotted like soviet times.

I don't think that's true. Maybe it has less cultural heritage than some of the other places listed, but not no cultural heritage.

What is the oldest and most culturally significent building in New York

And does New York have any World Herritage sites (London has several)

What is the oldest and most culturally significent building in New York

And does New York have any World Herritage sites (London has several)

Looks like someone has an axe to grind...But since you ask:

The oldest building in New York is The Wyckoff House Museum, 5816 Clarendon Road in Brooklyn, NY. The earliest portion of this house was erected by Pieter Claesen around 1652. (courtesy The New York historical society link (http://www.nyhistory.org/library/nyhsqa.html#oldestbldg))

And, according to UNESCO http://fp.thesalmons.org/lynn/world.heritage.html, The Statue of Liberty is a World Heritage Site.

Statue of Liberty....how could I forget!

And.....?

Statue of Liberty....how could I forget!

And.....?

Seriously the North American continent was not settled until recently when you compare our history to that of Europe. Get over yourself.

If having "World Heritage Sites" makes it such a great place then by all means host all of the Olympics you want. Not that the location matters, as we'll continue to dominate the medals.

I hope it's New York. Then I can go to it. In addition, it'll draw in lots of money, as it is a shopping and tourist mecca.

Who do you think will get the olympics in 2012?
London, Paris, Madrid, New York or Moscow?
I assume you mean NYC since New York is rather large in area. Then agian I could be wrong.

Despite the fact that the US is culturally nothing compared to the European, Asian, and African - I do think it would be nice for them to host the 2012 Olympics. HAY look at it this way at least by then there wont be Dubya.

Money and dominating. Two interesting words said there....

Its probably going to be a European city. Considering that most of the potential tourists are going to be there, it will be easier access. Rather then everyone hauling their asses over the atlantic.

What is the oldest and most culturally significent building in New York

And does New York have any World Herritage sites (London has several)
the world trade centre is considered a world heritage site. IF I remember correctly. So that is at least two, plus I believe they had the first sky-scraper. when I think of some more Ill add.

Seriously the North American continent was not settled until recently when you compare our history to that of Europe. Get over yourself.

If having "World Heritage Sites" makes it such a great place then by all means host all of the Olympics you want..

I tend to agree.

I think Europe would be better...Almopst every language on teh World is spoken in Europe. (Except for japanese and Chinese)

New York? No way!!! America has no time to host olimpys. They need to reboute the economy first.

This post makes absolutely no sense. Since when is America too poor to host the olympics?

New York would be great. It is the city.

New York. Could turn too political, also the Americans had the winter olympics last time

In 2002, 2006 its Torin Italy followed by Vancouver Canada. As for the US, give it to us. NYC is the only major city that has yet to host them. Its time for NYC to get them.

Moscow. Russian infrastructure is too poor to support it (and to all those who think London's is poor, Moscow is far worse belive me)

Forget Russia! They wont get the games.

So its down rearly to the three European entrents. I personally believe it will come down to a dead heat between London and Madrid. Paris recently had a significent set back with their swiming pool and London will be ready before them. The only significent problems London is having is public confidence and transport. And I think transport will be sorted by then.

The other three cities have already hosted the games. NYC is the only one out of the remaining cities that hasn't hosted them. Give the games to NYC!

Layarteb? I'm not offending your state, and that was a typo.

We all know that the economy in the World is down and we all know why...

Please tell us oh wise economist why the world economy is down?

New york has no cultural heritage.

It has the most diverse culture in the world! Have you ever been to NYC?

Please tell us oh wise economist why the world economy is down?
OOOH! OOOH! LET ME TRY! *raises his hand* IS IT BECAUSE OF DUBYA!

I hope it's New York. Then I can go to it. In addition, it'll draw in lots of money, as it is a shopping and tourist mecca.

Here here!

Maybe I could go to the games too! That'll be sweet. Always wanted to go see them.

Another good reason to have them here? No time delay :D

OOOH! OOOH! LET ME TRY! *raises his hand* IS IT BECAUSE OF DUBYA!

Wrong oh buddy. The answer is in this thread. I suggest you look for it!

Wrong oh buddy. The answer is in this thread. I suggest you look for it!
Honestly do you think I would bother looking for that when I just posted that. *uses the long island accent* As for you, you madame are giving them more reason not to have it in NYC than more. SO......

Honestly do you think I would bother looking for that when I just posted that. *uses the long island accent* As for you, you madame are giving them more reason not to have it in NYC than more. SO......

Madame? I'm male Israelites!

And how am I giving the IOC more reason to give the games to someone else?

Wow. As a Califronian I'm supposed to have a native rivalry with New York, but I wouldn't say even half the things about that place that you all have been saying. I really hate it when you all put me on the same side of the argument as Johnny Wadd. Bastards.

We don't have buildings as old because we didn't start building until much later. What we do get is living history, a country built from scratch from pieces of the rest of the world. It's different, not better or worse, it's the character of this place. The east coast is riddled with that history. Fuck I hate that I have to go with Johnny on this, but get over yourselves, really. It doesn't take anything away from the signifigance of your cities to acknowledge that there is culture and history in other cities. Don't let your irratation at American policies turn you into an idiot.

I'm not a flag waver, I'm not even someone who's sure he wants to stay in the United States or remain a citizen, but become a raging irrational jackass in the opposite direction, I haven't really gone anywhere.

Having said that-we've had more than enough Olympics. L.A., Atlanta, Salt Lake City. Man, let some other countries have a turn....

I like the idea of Moscow. We had Atlanta where we could make up for the 84 Olympics and have Russia over, now the can have one where we come over, make up for the one we skipped (80?). It'd be good for Russia too, if they pulled it off. Good P.R. for the nation, etc. My hope is for Moscow. That'd be great.

Wow. As a Califronian I'm supposed to have a native rivalry with New York, but I wouldn't say even half the things about that place that you all have been saying. I really hate it when you all put me on the same side of the argument as Johnny Wadd. Bastards.

We don't have buildings as old because we didn't start building until much later. What we do get is living history, a country built from scratch from pieces of the rest of the world. It's different, not better or worse, it's the character of this place. The east coast is riddled with that history. Fuck I hate that I have to go with Johnny on this, but get over yourselves, really. It doesn't take anything away from the signifigance of your cities to acknowledge that there is culture and history in other cities. Don't let your irratation at American policies turn you into an idiot.

I'm not a flag waver, I'm not even someone who's sure he wants to stay in the United States or remain a citizen, but become a raging irrational jackass in the opposite direction, I haven't really gone anywhere.

Having said that-we've had more than enough Olympics. L.A., Atlanta, Salt Lake City. Man, let some other countries have a turn....

I like the idea of Moscow. We had Atlanta where we could make up for the 84 Olympics and have Russia over, now the can have one where we come over, make up for the one we skipped (80?). It'd be good for Russia too, if they pulled it off. Good P.R. for the nation, etc. My hope is for Moscow. That'd be great.

The older you get, the more you'll get behind the opinions of Johnny Wadd!

Madame? I'm male Israelites!

And how am I giving the IOC more reason to give the games to someone else?
I figured you were from that hot head, but then again it seemed as if you were pmsing so I imediatly thought madame. Just the way you put down other places, not that they're watching this exact thread.

The older you get, the more you'll get behind the opinions of Johnny Wadd!
Dude, seriously. Don't read too much into this. You are still a sensationalist agitator jerk, who I'm not totally convinced isn't HannibalSmith under a new name. We do not agree and will not agree.

I figured you were from that hot head, but then again it seemed as if you were pmsing so I imediatly thought madame. Just the way you put down other places, not that they're watching this exact thread.

Well I'm a guy! London, Paris, Moscow, and Rome have all hosted Olympic Games before. NYC is the only major population center that has yet to host them. That is why I'm rooting for them to get the games.

I've lived in both New York and Moscow, and I would definitely rule out both cities. In Moscow, the various terrorist and money laundering groups would go beyond wild. In New York, the panicking and security problems would be too high, and the tourists would get killed by taxi cab drivers. Also, New York really does have fewer opportunities for long term touristing than those European cities. Visitors could spend maybe a week and already visit every major tourist attraction, granted that it wasn't closed down due to security, and that's with shopping. After that, another week wandering through museams, also with shopping. And anyway, to get the most out of New York, you need to put down roots.
Part of this message was a joke.

Well I'm a guy! London, Paris, Moscow, and Rome have all hosted Olympic Games before. NYC is the only major population center that has yet to host them. That is why I'm rooting for them to get the games.
Im sure there are other major cities ignored, buuuut they just werent nominated.

Dude, seriously. Don't read too much into this. You are still a sensationalist agitator jerk, who I'm not totally convinced isn't HannibalSmith under a new name. We do not agree and will not agree.


What the heck does the A-Team have to do with this? Who is Hannibal Smith?

Well I'm a guy! London, Paris, Moscow, and Rome have all hosted Olympic Games before. NYC is the only major population center that has yet to host them. That is why I'm rooting for them to get the games.

London has hosted the games twice before, but both times it was as a last minute stand-in. Well done to London for rising to the challenge. However this is the first ocasion that London has bid and been in with a reasonable chance of being picked. I'd love to see what London could do given proper time to prepare etc. (the fact that I have property near to the proposed olympic village is irrelevant, honest ;) )

Im sure there are other major ities ignored, buuuut they just werent nominated.

I'm talking major population centers. NYC is the only one of them that has yet host the games.

London has hosted the games twice before, but both times it was as a last minute stand-in. Well done to London for rising to the challenge. However this is the first ocasion that London has bid and been in with a reasonable chance of being picked. I'd love to see what London could do given proper time to prepare etc. (the fact that I have property near to the proposed olympic village is irrelevant, honest ;) )

Should be interesting but they still have hosted them! NYC has not! Let them host it for once.

NYC: The US have hosted to many games know, Plus tha last two had several scandals. Besides there is litlle support, and very few infrastucture ready.

London: Very Little support, already hosted two olympics.

Moscow: Really behind on the race.

Paris, has already hosted Olympics, well with infratructure.

Madrid, Has never hosted, olympic games, infrastructures is almost ready but has hotel problems.

I bet for a Madrid-Paris close race

NYC: The US have hosted to many games know, Plus tha last two had several scandals. Besides there is litlle support, and very few infrastucture ready.

Actually, you be surprised at just how much support there is. As for infrastructure, the games are 7 years a way. The infrastructure will be well done by then considering some of it is already under construction.

I think Europe would be better...Almopst every language on teh World is spoken in Europe. (Except for japanese and Chinese)

Well, actually a lot of Chinese people live here.

I don't think it will be Madrid or Moscow. Why?

Madrid - the recent ETA bomb attack has reminded everyone of why not.

Moscow - nobody likes Russia.

Paris I think. Paris has all of the infrastructure in transport, and has proven with the World Cup in 1998 it can host major events.

Madrid prob has all the infrastructure etc, but Barcelona had the summer-OGs in 1992. (And in my opinion, Barcelona is a far nicer town anyway...)

London probably would be good, but for its public not being so very supportive, plus its public transport infrastructure is horrible.

New York and Moscow even more are outsiders.

I think it would be really great if Russia hosted the olypics. I mean I lived in Moscow for 3 years and it was a very nice city. Like any city, Moscow has its bad parts but it also has very nice parts. Moscow has very nice landmarks and rich culture. The last time Moscow hosted was in the 80's but it was boycotted due to the invasion of Afghanistan. It would be interesting for a once locked, feared country, to open its doors and host the olypics.

As For New York well....Living in the City I hear alot of input on the bid. Many could really care less and arent really supportive.

I think it would be really great if Russia hosted the olypics. I mean I lived in Moscow for 3 years and it was a very nice city. Like any city, Moscow has its bad parts but it also has very nice parts. Moscow has very nice landmarks and rich culture. The last time Moscow hosted was in the 80's but it was boycotted due to the invasion of Afghanistan. It would be interesting for a once locked, feared country, to open its doors and host the olypics.

Moscow won't get it. They pretty much know they wont get them. London has a better chance but Paris?

As For New York well....Living in the City I hear alot of input on the bid. Many could really care less and arent really supportive.

I guess you haven't talked to the unions then :D

the world trade centre is considered a world heritage site. IF I remember correctly. So that is at least two, plus I believe they had the first sky-scraper. when I think of some more Ill add.
Actually Chicago was the site of the first skyscraper.

I'd love to see the olympics in ChiTown. I mean we have Soldier Field for soccer and track. Northwestern University can host stuff. We have the United Center for Basketball. Wrigley and Comiskey for baseball and softball. Plus, there are neat places like Grant Park, Navy Pier, Museum of Science and Industry, the Magnificent Mile, etc.

Uhhh I haven't been following the olympics much....well ok maybe not at all. Forgive me if this sounds stupid, but who's hosting the 2008 Olympics? Now back to playing UT2k4...

Anyone But New York. Please!

Uhhh I haven't been following the olympics much....well ok maybe not at all. Forgive me if this sounds stupid, but who's hosting the 2008 Olympics? Now back to playing UT2k4...

Beijing!

Anyone But New York. Please!


i'm going to have to agree with you there.

i live in NJ, and i know that , tho it is the 'New York' olympics, the majority of it is going to be in the meadowlands and other sports centers in NJ and connecticut.


however, the question was where i thought it would be, not where i wanted it to be, so i said NY, NY

i'm going to have to agree with you there.

i live in NJ, and i know that , tho it is the 'New York' olympics, the majority of it is going to be in the meadowlands and other sports centers in NJ and connecticut.


however, the question was where i thought it would be, not where i wanted it to be, so i said NY, NY

Bring the games to New York baby!

All of you are extremely ignorant on each city:
http://www.nyc2012.com/
http://www.london2012.org
http://www.parisjo2012.fr
http://www.m2012.ru/
http://www.madrid2012.es

The Moon.

How can you say NYC has no culture? What about all those orange gates they put up in Central Park?

Beijing!
Hmm interesting choice....anyways I vote NYC, since I can actually go to it.

Hmm interesting choice....anyways I vote NYC, since I can actually go to it.

Yea considering their human rights record. Anyway, should be an interesting Games.

I could go to the one in NYC too! Hopefully they'll get it. Ironically, the choice is made a couple of days BEFORE the 4th of July

Yea considering their human rights record. Anyway, should be an interesting Games.

I could go to the one in NYC too! Hopefully they'll get it. Ironically, the choice is made a couple of days BEFORE the 4th of July
Yes I expect the Chinese to put up one hell of a show.

Well anyways, best wishes to NYC!

Yes I expect the Chinese to put up one hell of a show.

Well anyways, best wishes to NYC!

Agreed.

I hope it will be in Madrid but I don't think the Spanish will get to have it.
Probably New York or Parisþ