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In defense of "Re-education" camps

Ciryar
13-02-2005, 19:44
1. I am refering to them as underlings because they are of inferior status intellectually, economicly, and socialy.
2. I am aware that they have emotions, however they are lower on the ladder.
3. Yes, everyone has a purpose, and theirs is to work in retail.Totalitarianism is a bad thing in general, but shouldn't we make exceptions for people like this? I am sure a suitable facility on one of the Aleutian islands could be built, at low cost, without heaters, to instruct these people in common decency. What do you think?
Sanctaphrax
13-02-2005, 19:47
I think Kahta does a check for his own name on the search thing and reports anything that he doesn't like to the mods:rolleyes:
Therefore I give you ten minutes or so until he reports you. (and hopefully they summararily dismiss his claims, as they seem to enjoy doing!)
Ciryar
13-02-2005, 19:49
I think Kahta does a check for his own name on the search thing and reports anything that he doesn't like to the mods:rolleyes:
Therefore I give you ten minutes or so until he reports you. (and hopefully they summararily dismiss his claims, as they seem to enjoy doing!)
I hope so too, but I think they will. I am not, after all, attacking him directly, just his extremely arrogant ideology, which could use a nice dose of realism and compassion.
Ciryar
13-02-2005, 21:01
I am disappointed. No respose, no report, no flame.
Malkyer
13-02-2005, 21:15
Just give him some time. Maybe he's busy.
Johnny Wadd
13-02-2005, 21:23
Totalitarianism is a bad thing in general, but shouldn't we make exceptions for people like this? I am sure a suitable facility on one of the Aleutian islands could be built, at low cost, without heaters, to instruct these people in common decency. What do you think?

I think you need to go outside and get some fresh air, or maybe a hobby, or a bf/gf (whatever your "taste" may be).
Ciryar
13-02-2005, 21:41
I think you need to go outside and get some fresh air, or maybe a hobby, or a bf/gf (whatever your "taste" may be).
Haha, excellent! Actually though, I was just outside, I have several hobbies outside my work, which I love, and I am working on the gf thing.

Kahta and people like him seem simply unable to fathom that others have feelings and deserve consideration. Given some of your posts in the past, you seem to suffer from the same delusions occasionally.
Letila
13-02-2005, 22:47
Kahta is what's known as an élitist.
Soviet Haaregrad
13-02-2005, 23:33
Kahta is what's known as a prick.

Much better. ;)
Ashmoria
14-02-2005, 01:22
i see him as being very insecure. thus he has to build himself up via not anything HE has done but by what his parents have done. this puts him in an even less secure spot since his achievements and status arent his at all. so he puts down other people who live a different kind of life from his. this at least makes him feel superior since he DOES live the life his parents provide for him.
Conceptualists
14-02-2005, 01:25
Meh, he'll carm down when he actually has to get a job.

Possibly in retail.
Ciryar
14-02-2005, 04:17
Meh, he'll carm down when he actually has to get a job.

Possibly in retail.
This is the best reply of all. Mad props, Conceptualists.
Peopleandstuff
14-02-2005, 04:22
While I find many of Kahta's views strange to say the least, I dont agree with the concept of re-education camps. I believe Kahta is as human as the next person, and I dont believe that any human should be deprived of their liberty to force them to change their opinions and/or thinking, or deprived of their liberty at all, unless it can be established that they have committed a crime serious enough to merit their detention under established laws.

I personally think that any criticism of anyone else's opinions/arguments would work better if posted where those opinions/arguments themselves are posted. I dont think trying to engage Kahta in this manner will change any of Kahta's views, and in fact the thread is more likely to alienate Kahta (certainly it would have that effect on me, if 'Kahta' were replaced with 'Peopleandstuff'), and so make Kahta less likely to be receptive to any points you might try to make. If the purpose of the thread isnt to engage Kahta, then I can only speculate that it may be an attempt to get others to 'gang up' on Kahta. I dont think that is appropriate, mature, or in my opinion (given the content of many of Kahta's postings) at all necessary. Anyone who is likely to share your opinion, will no doubt arrive at it, independently, simply by reading Kahta's views for themselves; anyone who reads Kahta's views and doesnt arrive at an opinion similar to your own, isnt likely to change their mind as a result of reading your thread.

Basically I think this thread is counterproductive, and possibly 'ill-advised'.
Bitchkitten
14-02-2005, 04:25
I'd like to believe in reincarnation. Then maybe he could live his next life as a minority female working in a sweatshop. With 16 kids because he has no access to birth control. Rotten teeth because he has no dental care. An abusive husband and a painful illness with no medication because he can't afford it.
Vegas-Rex
14-02-2005, 04:30
I'd like to believe in reincarnation. Then maybe he could live his next life as a minority female working in a sweatshop. With 16 kids because he has no access to birth control. Rotten teeth because he has no dental care. An abusive husband and a painful illness with no medication because he can't afford it.

But then the reincarnation committee would take pity on him and in his life after that he'd end up as Kahta II: return of the ego. Which would be entertaining.
Ciryar
14-02-2005, 04:35
I'd like to believe in reincarnation. Then maybe he could live his next life as a minority female working in a sweatshop. With 16 kids because he has no access to birth control. Rotten teeth because he has no dental care. An abusive husband and a painful illness with no medication because he can't afford it.No offense, but I'd say under certain circumstances, your choice of name could be most appropriate. :)
Ciryar
14-02-2005, 04:36
While I find many of Kahta's views strange to say the least, I dont agree with the concept of re-education camps. ...I personally think that any criticism of anyone else's opinions/arguments would work better if posted where those opinions/arguments themselves are posted. I dont think trying to engage Kahta in this manner will change any of Kahta's views...Basically I think this thread is counterproductive, and possibly 'ill-advised'.Nobody agrees with re-education. Except maybe Kahta, and then only to assuage his tenuous feeling of superiority. This thread is more what you might call "catharsis."
Irawana Japan
14-02-2005, 04:48
That way we have re-education camps, but free speech...the kind of free speech Stalin supported.
Ciryar
14-02-2005, 05:07
That way we have re-education camps, but free speech...the kind of free speech Stalin supported.
Exactly! Wait a minute...
Bitchkitten
14-02-2005, 05:11
No offense, but I'd say under certain circumstances, your choice of name could be most appropriate. :)

Thankyou. It's intended to be.
Frisbeeteria
15-02-2005, 01:44
Kahta is what's known as a prick.Much better. ;)
Soviet Haaregrad, editing quotes to make flames is an offense to not just the flamee, but also the quotee. Stop it. Now. Next time the warning is formal.
Therefore I give you ten minutes or so until he reports you.
The rest of you, stop making implicit flame threads about Kahta. We don't appreciate the added workload. Either debate him or ignore him.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Moderator Team
Ciryar
15-02-2005, 22:12
This post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8187028&postcount=491) of Kahta's is what inspired this thread. I intended it to be a satire, pointing out that if he defends labor or "re-education" camps then he must also be subject to the whims of those in power concerning his own entrance into them. He started an entire thread declaiming that some teenage rappers ought to be thrown in labor camps, and I was pointing out that his racism and utter inability to acknowledge that someone else might possibly be his equal could very well qualify him for a similar situation. I wasn't intending to make work for you, or flame Kahta, any more than Jonathan Swift ever "flamed" anyone.