NationStates Jolt Archive


Sex and violence censoring

Iraqestonia
13-02-2005, 05:35
This is an issue that has always baffled me. In America, sex is often seen as being unsuitable for children under 18, while violence is seen as, well, a part of life. Children aren't exposed to the censoring of violence NEARLY as much as they are to the censoring of sex. To which I ask, why? Surely sex isn't worse than violence? Of course, sex is bad for children who can't possibly be mature enough to handle it, right? That is to say, anybody under 18. I don't especially condone all-out dry-humping for all ages, but they have a right to knowledge about it.

"But the sex they show on TV/in movies objectifies women and teaches kids too much about sex!"

Teaches? Or informs? Kids aren't stupid. Maybe immature, but after about 12 or 13 they stop making poop jokes and actually start to grow up. And when puberty hits, hoo boy, you better hope that whoever teaches them about the facts of life (not you, obviously, you'll be swearing by the age-old dictum of "Ignorance Is Bliss") isn't some pot-smoking hippie freak who wants them to believe (as if!) sex is good. Good? Look at how many sexual deviants are on the news every night! Not like, say, the millions of people killed every day because of senseless acts of violence. Who cares about that stuff, anyways? Those places are like, a million miles away! Anyways, once they start to know about sex, why, they'll start giving their high-school sweethearts the old in-and-out right in the middle of the street! It'll be chaos! Anarchy! And all because we failed to warn them of the IMMENSE dangers of a few pixelated boobies on an import dating sim! Meanwhile, the pure, innocent kids who are oblivious to such carnal knowledge are busy learning about suffering and pain!

Johnny: "Daddy, what's that red stuff leaking out of that person's head?"

Don't worry, Johnny! Violence is a basic instinct! Everybody does it, so it's okay! After all, that's how most people can sleep safely at night, knowing the local constable is ready with his six-shooter to pump a cap in the nearest suspicious looking teenager's ass! Sure, it may hurt the teenager a lot, and hey: he might even die, but if they stoppped doing it, then the neighbors will complain about how they can't sleep anymore! We wouldn't want that, so we keep doing it. Not like sex, though. Boy howdy, those kids get one whiff of the cologne and they're after the whole bottle! Who cares if they get pleasure out of making people they care about feel good? Haven't they heard of AIDS? It's okay, though, if we don't teach them about it until their wedding night, they just might forget about how great it really is! (Shhh) Who cares if they started having biological urges about it 10 years ago? That's sick! They should be ashamed! And, hey, if we tell them that, they just might start to feel ashamed too.
Rangerville
13-02-2005, 05:45
I always wonder the same thing, i don't understand why sex is considered so much worse than violence. Sex is at least a natural act that almost everyone will participate in at some point in their lives. It can be a loving, wonderful thing, and much more harmless when done safely than violence is. I don't believe in government censorship of anything. There are V-chips and parental controls on computers for a reason, if people don't want there kids to see certain things they should use them. It is not the government's job to babysit people's kids. Next thing you know, we will want them to wipe our asses for us too.
New Genoa
13-02-2005, 05:49
This is an issue that has always baffled me. In America, sex is often seen as being unsuitable for children under 18, while violence is seen as, well, a part of life. Children aren't exposed to the censoring of violence NEARLY as much as they are to the censoring of sex. To which I ask, why? Surely sex isn't worse than violence? Of course, sex is bad for children who can't possibly be mature enough to handle it, right? That is to say, anybody under 18. I don't especially condone all-out dry-humping for all ages, but they have a right to knowledge about it.

Well, the bare truth is... that we try to think that we're a clean nation and such. But really, deep down inside... we're all horny bastards trying to cover it up. Don't believe me? Visit a public high school. But yes, there's a hypocrisy concerning sex and violence.



Maybe immature, but after about 12 or 13 they stop making poop jokes

Not yet for me :D

And that's all I need to comment about.
Alien Born
13-02-2005, 05:53
Why single out America. The UK is just as bad. You can marry at 16, but no serious pornography ever, and softcore only at 18+. Oh but you can join the cadets and learn how to blow someones head off at 14 (maybe earlier).
BLARGistania
13-02-2005, 05:54
blame it on the Puritans. They had the all-holy "sex is bad but we can kill whoever the hell we want attitude". Since they were the founders of the northeastern part of the US (ironically now the most liberal section of the nation) we can blame them and their intolerant bigotry towards opposing viewpoints.
Swimmingpool
13-02-2005, 05:55
It's because America has its roots in violent, witch-hunting Puritan fundamentalism.
EmoBuddy
13-02-2005, 06:06
This is an issue that has always baffled me. In America, sex is often seen as being unsuitable for children under 18, while violence is seen as, well, a part of life. Children aren't exposed to the censoring of violence NEARLY as much as they are to the censoring of sex. To which I ask, why? Surely sex isn't worse than violence? Of course, sex is bad for children who can't possibly be mature enough to handle it, right? That is to say, anybody under 18. I don't especially condone all-out dry-humping for all ages, but they have a right to knowledge about it.

"But the sex they show on TV/in movies objectifies women and teaches kids too much about sex!"

Teaches? Or informs? Kids aren't stupid. Maybe immature, but after about 12 or 13 they stop making poop jokes and actually start to grow up. And when puberty hits, hoo boy, you better hope that whoever teaches them about the facts of life (not you, obviously, you'll be swearing by the age-old dictum of "Ignorance Is Bliss") isn't some pot-smoking hippie freak who wants them to believe (as if!) sex is good. Good? Look at how many sexual deviants are on the news every night! Not like, say, the millions of people killed every day because of senseless acts of violence. Who cares about that stuff, anyways? Those places are like, a million miles away! Anyways, once they start to know about sex, why, they'll start giving their high-school sweethearts the old in-and-out right in the middle of the street! It'll be chaos! Anarchy! And all because we failed to warn them of the IMMENSE dangers of a few pixelated boobies on an import dating sim! Meanwhile, the pure, innocent kids who are oblivious to such carnal knowledge are busy learning about suffering and pain!

Johnny: "Daddy, what's that red stuff leaking out of that person's head?"

Don't worry, Johnny! Violence is a basic instinct! Everybody does it, so it's okay! After all, that's how most people can sleep safely at night, knowing the local constable is ready with his six-shooter to pump a cap in the nearest suspicious looking teenager's ass! Sure, it may hurt the teenager a lot, and hey: he might even die, but if they stoppped doing it, then the neighbors will complain about how they can't sleep anymore! We wouldn't want that, so we keep doing it. Not like sex, though. Boy howdy, those kids get one whiff of the cologne and they're after the whole bottle! Who cares if they get pleasure out of making people they care about feel good? Haven't they heard of AIDS? It's okay, though, if we don't teach them about it until their wedding night, they just might forget about how great it really is! (Shhh) Who cares if they started having biological urges about it 10 years ago? That's sick! They should be ashamed! And, hey, if we tell them that, they just might start to feel ashamed too.
Ah! long, unreadable rant that fails to get to the point in any coherent mannter!
Rovhaugane
13-02-2005, 06:07
It wouldnt be so bad if they wiped our asses for us. I surely wouldnt complain, im getting quite sick of it really.
Rangerville
13-02-2005, 06:10
LOL...okay, i suppose you have a point
Nora adams
13-02-2005, 06:15
blame it on the Puritans. They had the all-holy "sex is bad but we can kill whoever the hell we want attitude". Since they were the founders of the northeastern part of the US (ironically now the most liberal section of the nation) we can blame them and their intolerant bigotry towards opposing viewpoints.
I don’t think that you should blame the Puritans. I do have to say they were a little out there but I think that the reason why they try to say sex is so bad is because it’s between a man and a women that is married. And if it’s not then people get hurt. Bad things happen from it if you don’t take it seriously. I think everyone has a part in the way things turn out. I mean it's not just one persons fault or one groups fault; everyone has something to do with why our nation is the reason why it is.... even you and me.
Tummania
13-02-2005, 06:20
I don’t think that you should blame the Puritans. I do have to say they were a little out there but I think that the reason why they try to say sex is so bad is because it’s between a man and a women that is married. And if it’s not then people get hurt. Bad things happen from it if you don’t take it seriously. I think everyone has a part in the way things turn out. I mean it's not just one persons fault or one groups fault; everyone has something to do with why our nation is the reason why it is.... even you and me.

I'd rather be hurt by casual sex than by a gun...
Ashmoria
13-02-2005, 06:21
you dont learn anything useful about sex from the movies. pretty people engaging in choreographed actions.

you dont learn anything useful about violence from the movies either. mel gibson gets tortured for 45 minutes then has the strength to go kick the bad guys asses.

parents need to be careful about both. when my son was small i took both things into consideration and was more selective about violence than sex. reasonable romance and sexuality are better than mindless violence. i dont even allow sexually violent tv shows on in my house and we are all adults. just because it exists doesnt mean i have to watch it.
United Freedoms
13-02-2005, 06:28
Maybe immature, but after about 12 or 13 they stop making poop jokes and actually start to grow up.

I'd like to point out that this person is one of my best friends IRL. I would further like to point out that this person is WAY past 13 and still makes poop jokes. Not just poop either. We've branched out into fart, ass, and wang jokes as well.
Iraqestonia
13-02-2005, 06:30
I'd like to point out that this person is one of my best friends IRL. I would further like to point out that this person is WAY past 13 and still makes poop jokes. Not just poop either. We've branched out into fart, ass, and wang jokes as well.

When was the last time I made a joke specifically in reference to "poop"? Never. I admit to the wang business, though.
United Freedoms
13-02-2005, 06:33
When was the last time I made a joke specifically in reference to "poop"? Never. I admit to the wang business, though.

Just last night, in between the fart and wang jokes, I'm fairly sure you said to me, "Hey Kelly......poop."

At least once, and at least last night. Not sure if it was before or after we watched Power Rangers: The Movie.

Ninjeti Corkscrew Kick! HYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!
Iraqestonia
13-02-2005, 06:37
Just last night, in between the fart and wang jokes, I'm fairly sure you said to me, "Hey Kelly......poop."

At least once, and at least last night. Not sure if it was before or after we watched Power Rangers: The Movie.

Ninjeti Corkscrew Kick! HYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!

Well, I certainly don't remember that. But I do agree, however, that a certain character in that movie looked disturbingly like Steven Seagal.
United Freedoms
13-02-2005, 06:41
Well, I certainly don't remember that. But I do agree, however, that a certain character in that movie looked disturbingly like Steven Seagal.

They really should have given him the Steven Seagal zord, which combined with the rest into the Ninja Steven Seagal Megazord.
Holy Sheep
13-02-2005, 07:01
Gods, get a[n IRC] room.