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DANES.
People from Denmark ONLY! Please do not post here if you are not Danish.

Okay, let's try this for the third time. Are any Danes here?

I am looking for a Dane or Danes that know their history well and want to talk about the Icelandic-Denmark issue. Kalmar Union, 19th Century, 1918 and 1944 etc. I'm Icelandic.

As a Swede, I urge you to not pay attention to Denmark. We try not to.

Thank you.

As a Swede, I urge you to not pay attention to Denmark. We try not to.

Thank you.

Im Icelandic and we are probably born with hate for Denmark. I could not care less for that sorry nation but I am interested to hear what they have to say on the issue.

The Danes do not seem to be on this forum or they do not want to reply to this thread.
But a Swede are you, I go there often to place named 'Lund', nice country and polite people. You get a culture shock just driveing over the bridge the Danes and Swedes are so differant.

As a Swede, I urge you to not pay attention to Denmark. We try not to.

Thank you.

:D Indeed... but then, it's not so hard as their language makes them sound like they have a permanent sore throat! :p

There don't seem to be very many Danes about on here.

I started a topic on the Danish election results on Tuesday, and whilst some other Swedes and a Finn (as well as a couple of Americans) joined in, no Danes appeared! So, North Island, you may not find any.

Well, thanks for the info.

Well, thanks for the info.

I have a question for you though. Do many Icelandic people learn Danish-language still? What is the level of Danish-language understanding amongst Icelands people?

I liked Denmark when I went there, but I preferred Sweden.

Im Icelandic and we are probably born with hate for Denmark. I could not care less for that sorry nation but I am interested to hear what they have to say on the issue.

The Danes do not seem to be on this forum or they do not want to reply to this thread.
But a Swede are you, I go there often to place named 'Lund', nice country and polite people. You get a culture shock just driveing over the bridge the Danes and Swedes are so differant.

Why do people hate eachother? What does that bring us? As an American myself, I'm pissed at the way France talked to the US during the Iraq war. But, I don't hate him. I can't hate Russians because of Stalin. I can't hate all Germans because of Hitler either. Swedes, and Icyies, what did Denmark do to you? Danes, what did the Swedes and Icyies do to you? I can't think of anything...

:D Indeed... but then, it's not so hard as their language makes them sound like they have a permanent sore throat! :p

I never heard Danish or Swedish spoken, so I don't know. I always thought they were very closley related, though..

I have a question for you though. Do many Icelandic people learn Danish-language still? What is the level of Danish-language understanding amongst Icelands people?

The Danes pay the Icelandic government for keeping Danish in the schools. Nobody understands it here and if we were to go to Denmark and speak Danish they would not understand us and we would not understand them, we understnad Norwegian better.
An Icelander can study Swedish or Norwegian instead if they demand to do so and many do, some out of patriotism (refuse to learn the tyrants language) and others out of interest in another language. I learned Norwegian myself, after all we are of the Norse people.

North Island, What language do you speak over in Iceland?

Edit: Why were the Danes tyrants? I need to learn more Scandinavian history.

Why do people hate eachother? What does that bring us? As an American myself, I'm pissed at the way France talked to the US during the Iraq war. But, I don't hate him. I can't hate Russians because of Stalin. I can't hate all Germans because of Hitler either. Swedes, and Icyies, what did Denmark do to you? Danes, what did the Swedes and Icyies do to you? I can't think of anything...



I never heard Danish or Swedish spoken, so I don't know. I always thought they were very closley related, though..

What is an Icie? If you are talking about an Icelander say Icelander not Icie. We are friends with our brothers in Norway, good stong friends of Sweden and friends with Finland. Do not start something you do not understand.
The Danes are tyrants and allways have been. They ruled here for centurys and did nothing for us. My people lived in poverty and sickness, slaving for Denamarks wealth. I can tell you the story and then you would understand.

The Danes pay the Icelandic government for keeping Danish in the schools. Nobody understands it here and if we were to go to Denmark and speak Danish they would not understand us and we would not understand them, we understnad Norwegian better.
An Icelander can study Swedish or Norwegian instead if they demand to do so and many do, some out of patriotism (refuse to learn the tyrants language) and others out of interest in another language. I learned Norwegian myself, after all we are of the Norse people.

That's interesting. Didn't realise Denmark subsidised Danish lanaguage in your schools. Although I can understand both Danish and Norwegian, I find that I can understand Norwegian with more ease.

And why didn't you take Swedish!! ;)

Swedes, and Icyies, what did Denmark do to you? Danes, what did the Swedes and Icyies do to you? I can't think of anything...
Well, Denmark occupied and ruled their countries for several centuries. Then Sweden became independent and took Norway with it. Then Sweden took over Finland. For the same reason Finns and Norwegians don't like Sweden. I agree that it's stupid to hate a country that occupied yours before most people alive now were born, but hey, we're talking about humans here.

Only two things are infinite; the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.

North Island, What language do you speak over in Iceland?

Edit: Why were the Danes tyrants? I need to learn more Scandinavian history.

We speak Icelandic. That is our language.
Indeed you need to learn more Scandinavian history.
The Danes are tyrants because of their hard and sick former rule here.

That's interesting. Didn't realise Denmark subsidised Danish lanaguage in your schools. Although I can understand both Danish and Norwegian, I find that I can understand Norwegian with more ease.

And why didn't you take Swedish!! ;)

Why? Icelandic is our native language and it allways has been.

North Island, What language do you speak over in Iceland?

Edit: Why were the Danes tyrants? I need to learn more Scandinavian history.
Icelandic, obviously.

The Danes exploited Iceland for their own wealth. The British exploited Ireland for their own wealth too, but most Irish young people don't hate Britain now.

Well, Denmark occupied and ruled their countries for several centuries. Then Sweden became independent and took Norway with it. Then Sweden took over Finland. For the same reason Finns and Norwegians don't like Sweden. I agree that it's stupid to hate a country that occupied yours before most people alive now were born, but hey, we're talking about humans here.

Why is that stupid?
My country became independandt in 1944. My grandfather and father were born when the Danish King still ruled here and I am first generation free Icelander of my family.

Well, Denmark occupied and ruled their countries for several centuries. Then Sweden became independent and took Norway with it. Then Sweden took over Finland. For the same reason Finns and Norwegians don't like Sweden. I agree that it's stupid to hate a country that occupied yours before most people alive now were born, but hey, we're talking about humans here.

I think it's a bit strong to rank the Norwegian and Finnish antagonism towards Sweden at the same level of Island-Denmark.

Sure, there is a friendly rivalry between Norway and Sweden. And with the Finns maybe something a little stronger (although, sometimes I wonder how much this is a natural extension/reflection of the internal situation between the Finnish and minority Swedish speakers in Finland). But, we are all still close friends in values. Also with Denmark and also with Iceland.

Why? Icelandic is our native language and it allways has been.
Lol... i was joking, I meant why didn't you take Swedish instead of Norwegian as your choice instead of Danish classes! It was only a little joke! Of course Icelandic is your mother tongue! It must be great to be able to read the sagas in their original language.

Lol... i was joking, I meant why didn't you take Swedish instead of Norwegian as your choice instead of Danish classes! It was only a little joke! Of course Icelandic is your mother tongue! It must be great to be able to read the sagas in their original language.

Well I lived in Norway for 5 years and have many friends there so I wanted to kepp learning their language to be able to speak to them and also I found Danish to be a boring language and ill sounding so really didnt want to study it.
It is nice to be able to read the old Sagas, yes.

Icelandic, obviously.

The Danes exploited Iceland for their own wealth. The British exploited Ireland for their own wealth too, but most Irish young people don't hate Britain now.
Yes that is true but many young Icelanders have some hate for Denmark still. I do not like the Danes but I do not hate them.

Well I lived in Norway for 5 years and have many friends there so I wanted to kepp learning their language to be able to speak to them and also I found Danish to be a boring language and ill sounding so really didnt want to study it.
It is nice to be able to read the old Sagas, yes.

It's not very politically correct, but we have a joke in Swedish that you may like, it says "Danish is not so much a language but a throat infection" or something like that.

So, if you can speak Norwegian, you must be able to understand Swedish anyway pretty well? And also Danish to a large extent.

Why is that stupid?
My country became independandt in 1944. My grandfather and father were born when the Danish King still ruled here and I am first generation free Icelander of my family.
It's stupid because it's xenophobic, backward and regressive.

I don't hate the British people just because their country occupied mine for 800 years.

It's not very politically correct, but we have a joke in Swedish that you may like, it says "Danish is not so much a language but a throat infection" or something like that.

So, if you can speak Norwegian, you must be able to understand Swedish anyway pretty well? And also Danish to a large extent.

We have a joke here that is simmilar to yours on the Danish language. :)
I do understand Swedish, Norwegian but I do not understnad Danish. Not a single word makes sence to me and people say that it is like Norwegian but it really is not.
But as I understand it I speak Swedish leik the Swedes in Skáni-Skone, in the south of Sweden.

I think it's a bit strong to rank the Norwegian and Finnish antagonism towards Sweden at the same level of Island-Denmark.
Yeah, I guess I am wrong there. Let me guess, your friendly rivalry is over who can be more socialist?! j/k

Here I think our government had a friendly rivalry with Britain as to who could be the most pro-American. We were reducing taxes and courting corporations, but then Britain entered the Iraq war. We just couldn't beat that. Sad.

It's stupid because it's xenophobic, backward and regressive.

I don't hate the British people just because their country occupied mine for 800 years.

The feeling is mutual. The Danes hate us too. It really depends on how you look at it. The English ruled Éire with an iron fist and it is good that you do not hate them. Like I said I do not hate them, I just do not like them but many here have a hate for that nation and have a right to do so.
We can trace our roots back over a thousand years and the sagas tell tales of what they did to our people and in more recent history they ruled here with no regard for us just what they wanted.

We have a joke here that is simmilar to yours on the Danish language. :)
I do understand Swedish, Norwegian but I do not understnad Danish. Not a single word makes sence to me and people say that it is like Norwegian but it really is not.
But as I understand it I speak Swedish leik the Swedes in Skáni-Skone, in the south of Sweden.

Interesting you don't understand any Danish then, the sydsvenska dialect in Skåne is the most close to Danish of any Swedish dialect. In fact the reason it is so like Danish is that it's evolution has kind of been from a fusion of the eastern Danish dialect with Swedish back in the past.

Yeah, I guess I am wrong there. Let me guess, your friendly rivalry is over who can be more socialist?! j/k



No, we win hands down on that I think... :-)

I think it's more alive in the sports field... especially in athletics between Sweden and Finland... I remind all Finnish viewers who got more medals in Athens, and who won the Finnkampen (annual Sweden-Finland athletics match) last summer! ;)

Interesting you don't understand any Danish then, the sydsvenska dialect in Skåne is the most close to Danish of any Swedish dialect. In fact the reason it is so like Danish is that it's evolution has kind of been from a fusion of the eastern Danish dialect with Swedish back in the past.

Yes I go to Lund often and have friends there so I got it from them.
Danish is so alien to me, you hear it and go 'wow, what the hell was that' it sound so violent, it's like they are angry all the time and do not have the streanght to speak clearly. But I guess I could read Danish for some part but I can not speak it.

Yes I go to Lund often and have friends there so I got it from them.
Danish is so alien to me, you hear it and go 'wow, what the hell was that' it sound so violent, it's like they are angry all the time and do not have the streanght to speak clearly. But I guess I could read Danish for some part but I can not speak it.

That makes sense then. Did you go to Lund University? Or another reason for being there?

My uncle and his wife live there, I go there to visit them and my friends every year and have done so for the past 20 years.
My University is in Iceland.

What is an Icie?

Ok, I'll say Icelander, sorry.

I agree that it's stupid to hate a country that occupied yours before most people alive now were born, but hey, we're talking about humans here.

Hey, imagine how the Animals take things...
Also, why is Iceland independent anyways? Were they a distinct diferent culture, or were they just fed up with Denmark's rule like America? Which reminds me, what about their language? Is that any different from the rest of Scandinavia? There is so much I don't know... :)

Ok, I'll say Icelander, sorry.



Hey, imagine how the Animals take things...
Also, why is Iceland independent anyways? Were they a distinct diferent culture, or were they just fed up with Denmark's rule like America? Which reminds me, what about their language? Is that any different from the rest of Scandinavia? There is so much I don't know... :)

Their language is more distinct from the other Scandinavian languages (by which I mean Swedish, Norwegian and Danish). As a Swede, I can understand Norwegian and Danish, but not Icelandic. It's the same language group though, Icelandic is much much much closer to the original Norse spoken by the Vikings... in fact, to the extent an Icelandic speaker can read the sagas without any difficulty.

Their culture is certainly not Danish, it's Icelandic.

I'm sure North Island can tell you more on this.

Im Icelandic and we are probably born with hate for Denmark. I could not care less for that sorry nation but I am interested to hear what they have to say on the issue.

The Danes do not seem to be on this forum or they do not want to reply to this thread.
But a Swede are you, I go there often to place named 'Lund', nice country and polite people. You get a culture shock just driveing over the bridge the Danes and Swedes are so differant.

Nei sko. Íslendingur!

Nei sko. Íslendingur!

Loksins annar Íslendingur. Það er ótrúlegt hvað þessir útlendingar geta bullað en velkomin á NS.

Their language is more distinct from the other Scandinavian languages (by which I mean Swedish, Norwegian and Danish). As a Swede, I can understand Norwegian and Danish, but not Icelandic. It's the same language group though, Icelandic is much much much closer to the original Norse spoken by the Vikings... in fact, to the extent an Icelandic speaker can read the sagas without any difficulty.

Their culture is certainly not Danish, it's Icelandic.

I'm sure North Island can tell you more on this.

Borgoa said it all.
But if you do have questions then just ask and I will tell you what you want to know.

Loksins annar Íslendingur. Það er ótrúlegt hvað þessir útlendingar geta bullað en velkomin á NS.

Takk takk...Ég var reyndar fastagestur hérna í ca. ár fyrir löngu síðan... En var að snúa aftur í kvöld.

Takk takk...Ég var reyndar fastagestur hérna í ca. ár fyrir löngu síðan... En var að snúa aftur í kvöld.

Já, þannig. Þetta er fínt og góður leikur. Ertu á Íslandi eða?

Já, þannig. Þetta er fínt og góður leikur. Ertu á Íslandi eða?

Já, í Reykjavíkinni. En þú?

Já, í Reykjavíkinni. En þú?
Núna er ég í Garðabænum.

Borgoa said it all.
But if you do have questions then just ask and I will tell you what you want to know.

Thanx! Now please translate all that Icelandic, unless you are using it for like a secret language ;).

Núna er ég í Garðabænum.
Þetta forum er stundum mjög skemmtilegt, finnst þér ekki? Það er gaman að rökræða við fólk sem hefur allt annan bakgrunn en maður sjálfur.
Reyndar voru þetta nánast eingöngu kanar þegar ég var hérna...

Þú ert fyrsti íslendingurinn sem ég rekst á hér

Much to my surprise, I can get the gist of what you are saying... but no more than that.

Þetta forum er stundum mjög skemmtilegt, finnst þér ekki? Það er gaman að rökræða við fólk sem hefur allt annan bakgrunn en maður sjálfur.
Reyndar voru þetta nánast eingöngu kanar þegar ég var hérna...

Þú ert fyrsti íslendingurinn sem ég rekst á hér

Sama hér, ég hef ekki rekist á íslending hérna áður.
Jú, forumið er mjög skemmtilegt og ótrúlega gaman að heyra og tala um hitt og þetta við fólk sem eru t.d. frá Ástralíu, Bandaríkjunum, Bretlandi o.s.frv.

Thanx! Now please translate all that Icelandic, unless you are using it for like a secret language ;).

Just two Icelanders talking about NS. Thats all.
No secret language. ;)

Sama hér, ég hef ekki rekist á íslending hérna áður.
Jú, forumið er mjög skemmtilegt og ótrúlega gaman að heyra og tala um hitt og þetta við fólk sem eru t.d. frá Ástralíu, Bandaríkjunum, Bretlandi o.s.frv.

Akkúrat.
Stundum opnar það augu manns...Stundum. Gjarna er þetta líka endalaust blaður um allt og ekkert.

Much to my surprise, I can get the gist of what you are saying... but no more than that.
Great, so what do you understand?

Akkúrat.
Stundum opnar það augu manns...Stundum. Gjarna er þetta líka endalaust blaður um allt og ekkert.

Já, stundum. Það eru nokkrir hérna sem hafa vit í kollinum.
Gæti ekki verið meira sammála þér með blaðrið hérna, manni fynnst þetta stundum of langt gengið. Kanarnir eru verstir frá því séð.

Just two Icelanders talking about NS. Thats all.
No secret language. ;)

You're way off...
Actually we were going through the weird and sinister heathen greeting ritual icelanders typically greet each others with.

"O Viking brother, blood of my blood, may Thor guide your blade to the necks of thine enemies and their heads roll upon the ground...etc" ;)

Já, stundum. Það eru nokkrir hérna sem hafa vit í kollinum.
Gæti ekki verið meira sammála þér með blaðrið hérna, manni fynnst þetta stundum of langt gengið. Kanarnir eru verstir frá því séð.

Satt er það.
Ertu búinn að vera hérna lengi?

You're way off...
Actually we were going through the weird and sinister heathen greeting ritual icelanders typically greet each others with.

"O Viking brother, blood of my blood, may Thor guide your blade to the necks of thine enemies and their heads roll upon the ground...etc" ;)

Allt of flókið að útskýra íslenska siði fyrir útlendingum, of margar spurningar sem maður fær en þatta var gott svar.

Satt er það.
Ertu búinn að vera hérna lengi?

Ég byrjaði í október sl.

Allt of flókið að útskýra íslenska siði fyrir útlendingum, of margar spurningar sem maður fær en þatta var gott svar.

Tja...Eru siðir okkar nokkuð svo frábrugðnir?
Eini verulegi munurinn sem ég hef tekið eftir er oftast varðandi pólitísk mál, trúarbrögð og svo virðast Bandaríkjamenn sjaldan skilja kaldhæðni.

Tja...Eru siðir okkar nokkuð svo frábrugðnir?
Eini verulegi munurinn sem ég hef tekið eftir er oftast varðandi pólitísk mál, trúarbrögð og svo virðast Bandaríkjamenn sjaldan skilja kaldhæðni.

Nei kannski ekki en reyndu bara að útskýra fyrir þeim hvað Þorrablót er og afhverju við höfum 13 jólasveina.
En það er rétt hjá þér að munurinn í sambandi við pólitík, trúarbrögð og önnur svipuð mál er augljós oftast nær.
Ef maður er kaldhæðnislegur hérna verða kanarnir brjálaðir. Frekar fyndið.

As a Swede, I urge you to not pay attention to Denmark. We try not to.

Thank you.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Nei kannski ekki en reyndu bara að útskýra fyrir þeim hvað Þorrablót er og afhverju við höfum 13 jólasveina.
En það er rétt hjá þér að munurinn í sambandi við pólitík, trúarbrögð og önnur svipuð mál er augljós oftast nær.
Ef maður er kaldhæðnislegur hérna verða kanarnir brjálaðir. Frekar fyndið.

Það er reyndar rétt. Allir eiga skrítna siði.
Kaldhæðnimálið þykir mér alltaf frekar skondið.