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Would Vince Foster vote for Hillary Clinton for president?

Zooke
12-02-2005, 22:34
With all of the speculation on Hillary's possible 2008 run for the presidency, I wonder how the Democrats will respond to her possible involvement in the suicide (?) of Vince Foster.

For those who don't know who Foster was, he was reported to be Hillary's lover and partner is some highly questionable business dealings. At the time of his death he was Deputy White House Counsel to Bill Clinton.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23520

Hillary Clinton, meanwhile, allegedly enlisted the troopers to chauffeur her to secret meetings with the late Vincent Foster, her law partner at the time, at a resort hotel about 50 miles north of Little Rock, Ark., sources say.

At the time of his reported suicide, a number of discrepancies in the suicide scenerio were noted, but effectively squashed. Two of the most suspicous clues was the general lack of blood at the scene and that he shot himself in the back of the head.

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/usa/vince-foster/

Wounds not consistent with self-inflicted gunshot.
Not enough blood on the scene given the injuries.
Foster's hands lacked gunshot residue consistent with self-inflicted shot.
Firing position "inconsistent" with suicide.
The body was "neatly arranged" where it lay.
Foster's clothing not examined by investigators.
Evidence on scene, including patterns of bloodstains, indicated Foster's body had been moved
Investigators failed to interview neighbors and area residents after the incident.
Crime scene photos missing or otherwise unusual in format.
Then there are the gross distortions:
Foster's head moved after death. (His head was moved by rescue workers, consistent with a routine procedural verification that he was, in fact, dead.)
Suspicious carpet fibers found on Foster's clothes. (The fibers were tested and determined to have come from Foster's house.)
No fingerprints on the gun's trigger. (The gun handle wasn't smooth, but textured, a surface which the FBI stated was unlikely to retain prints.)
The body was found in "unusual surroundings" on a steep slope in dense brush. (What is a usual surrounding for a suicide in a park?)
Foster's glasses were found 19 feet from head, an "impossible" outcome of the shot. (It was 13 feet from Foster's feet, down slope, and the glasses had blood and gunpowder residue, and forensics experts determined what one would think would be obvious — that the glasses were flung from his head when he fired the gun.)
Foster's car keys were not found on his person at the scene. (Foster's pockets were patted down briefly on the scene and the keys were not found. Police went to the morgue a few hours later and turned the pockets out, where they found the keys.)
Foster's wife couldn't identify the gun used in the suicide as his, raising doubts that he owned the gun. (Foster owned several guns he had received from his family, including a .38 caliber gun received from his father that matched the gun on the scene. His wife couldn't definitely identify it, but confirmed one of his guns was missing.)
Five witnesses claimed Foster had a briefcase in his car, which was omitted from the police report. (Four witnesses said they thought "maybe" they thought they saw a briefcase in the car. A fifth said there was definitely a briefcase and also some wine coolers. No one else saw any wine coolers. Where is the outrage over the wine coolers?)

Surely this all will come up and again and maybe even a real investigation be launched. How will the democrats handle this if it does?
Drunk commies
12-02-2005, 22:35
I don't think people who have successfully killed themselves get a vote.
Zooke
12-02-2005, 22:56
bump
Zooke
12-02-2005, 23:23
This enforces my opinion that most liberals really don't care about the morals or fitness of their party's candidates. They'll parrot the liberal talking points, but they won't address any real issues concerning the worthiness of their leaders. At least conservatives back up their candidates!
Andaluciae
12-02-2005, 23:24
I don't think people who have successfully killed themselves get a vote.
They do in Chicago!
Drunk commies
12-02-2005, 23:25
They do in Chicago!
My Bad, yes they do.
Zooke
12-02-2005, 23:31
They do in Chicago!

But only the dead democrats...especially the ones that died from crack.
Andaluciae
12-02-2005, 23:34
Ahhh, good old Mayors Daley...
Johnny Wadd
12-02-2005, 23:35
I don't think people who have successfully killed themselves get a vote.

In Chicago they do!

Doh!! sorry!!
Swimmingpool
12-02-2005, 23:44
This enforces my opinion that most liberals really don't care about the morals or fitness of their party's candidates. They'll parrot the liberal talking points, but they won't address any real issues concerning the worthiness of their leaders. At least conservatives back up their candidates!
Funny that you say this before anyone has even responded!
Zooke
13-02-2005, 00:04
Funny that you say this before anyone has even responded!

I said this BECAUSE no one responded. All of the threads concerning Hillary and her possible bid for the presidency have several people singing her praises. But, give them a serious concern with her character, and they avoid the issue like the plague. This thread is 1 1/2 hours old and there is not one serious response. What does this tell you about the basis for their political opinions?
Panhandlia
13-02-2005, 00:26
Did Vince Foster get buried in Chicago?
CSW
13-02-2005, 00:29
Stop spouting conspiracy theory nonsense from 'worldnetdaily'.


Sheesh.
Zooke
13-02-2005, 00:43
Stop spouting conspiracy theory nonsense from 'worldnetdaily'.


Sheesh.

What source would you prefer that I use for a conspiracy theory? There are dozens of them that investigated this death.
Marrakech II
13-02-2005, 00:47
I firmly believe that Vince Foster was killed. Either by direct action by the Clintons or inderect. BTW you can vote in Seattle if your dead too. Chicago no longer the lone wolf on that one. Is it by coincedence that the Seattle and Chicago MLB had 116 win seasons and not win a Pennant? Hmmmm
CSW
13-02-2005, 00:55
What source would you prefer that I use for a conspiracy theory? There are dozens of them that investigated this death.

One that doesn't have a blatant right wing bias kthxbi.
Niccolo Medici
13-02-2005, 00:56
What source would you prefer that I use for a conspiracy theory? There are dozens of them that investigated this death.

Try "The smoking gun" or "Snopes" for a start. This belongs in the same place of the "Clinton's mass killings" email that did the rounds on the internet back in the late 90's.
Zooke
13-02-2005, 01:15
One that doesn't have a blatant right wing bias kthxbi.

Well, a media source with a left-wing bias wouldn't carry it obviously. I still think this may end up being Hillary's equivalent to the Swift Boat issue. If not, there's plenty more scandal to dig up on her here in Arkansas.
CSW
13-02-2005, 01:36
Well, a media source with a left-wing bias wouldn't carry it obviously. I still think this may end up being Hillary's equivalent to the Swift Boat issue. If not, there's plenty more scandal to dig up on her here in Arkansas.
Give one that doesn't have a bias then. They aren't that hard to find. Try here: www.msnbc.com (Hey, it even leans right a bit) or here: www.foxnews.com
Swimmingpool
13-02-2005, 04:07
US Politics must be in pretty bad state when the Clintons are considered "the left".