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Just one simple question, what makes people so sure of god?

OK, I decided to put a poll in...yay!

I am torn as to whether to answer this or not.

Ok, I decided I've had enough theology for now.

I'm not even sure what constitutes a god.

Well who else would create the miracle of chocolate pudding?

Sheer hard-headedness. Fear of the unknown. Tradition.

Well who else would create the miracle of chocolate pudding?

satan. chocolate is gross and pudding feels funny. they are both eviler then evil.

So does anyone here actually believe in god?

Personal experience.

I am He, after all.

satan. chocolate is gross and pudding feels funny. they are both eviler then evil.
Nooo! Not the pudding!!! :(

So does anyone here actually believe in god?

*shrugs* I guess all the theists are morning people.




(Yup, that was Ameri-centric. So sue me.)

Sheer hard-headedness. Fear of the unknown. Tradition.

Yeah, steal my rebutal why don't you...*grumbles quietly to self*

No, sirously isn't there anyone here who wishes to defend religion?

Personal experience.

I am He, after all.

ha - god, remember that time you turned my water into vodka? ahh good times.

Nooo! Not the pudding!!! :(

its squishy and ugh! how can you eat it without thinking of... something not good?

Just one simple question, what makes people so sure of god?

Nothing else makes much sense to me. It's not that I have some knock-down great deductive argument for God. I am pretty well convinced that it's impossible. But nothing else out there satisfies both my intellectual curiosity and my everyday experience. See some books by a guy named Fracis Schaeffer for more.

ha - god, remember that time you turned my water into vodka? ahh good times.
What are you? A damned commie? Have you ever seen a commie drink water? Nope, never. They only drink vodka!

ha - god, remember that time you turned my water into vodka? ahh good times.

But of course, loyal follower. Those who worship I are always blessed.

hmm...where's whathis name? Term-somethingrather...oh i forgot his name, you know...the guy that was against gay rights, he'll be good in this. Well, he'll make this thread a tad more interesting...

What are you? A damned commie? Have you ever seen a commie drink water? Nope, never. They only drink vodka!

In Russia, vodka drink you!

its squishy and ugh! how can you eat it without thinking of... something not good?

Mmmmm...pudding skin....

In Russia, vodka drink you!
No, no, no. You're supposed to say, "have you ever heard of fluoridation?"

Ok, if people aren't going to answer that question properly I think i might narrow down the question:

Is the bible word for word or true?

In Russia, vodka drink you!

you bastard! i was gonna say that!

But of course, loyal follower. Those who worship I are always blessed.

that'd be an awesome god. i dont drink, but i'd start if i had a god that gave me free vodka.

Mmmmm...pudding skin....

that too... 'scuse me while i go vomit at the thought of choclate skin that people eat.

Vodka? Pudding skin? that has nothing to do with this argument, please take yours over to another thread.

Ok, if people aren't going to answer that question properly I think i might narrow down the question:

Is the bible word for word or true?
Lol, well, those are definitely mutually exclusive.

Vodka? Pudding skin? that has nothing to do with this argument, please take yours over to another thread.

sorry, sorry.. im have a tendency to hijack by accident.

on topic - i dont think there is too much real proof either way, just depends on how you see things and choose to believe.

Vodka? Pudding skin? that has nothing to do with this argument, please take yours over to another thread.

How dare you defy your Lord?!?!?!?

*apocalypse*

Ok, if people aren't going to answer that question properly I think i might narrow down the question:

Is the bible word for word or true?

Meaning, do I believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible? Aside from the poetic parts (poetry is never literal anyway), then yes.

Meaning, do I believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible? Aside from the poetic parts (poetry is never literal anyway), then yes.

Ok, what makes you believe in it?

No, sirously isn't there anyone here who wishes to defend religion?
God, if he/she/it does exist, has little to do with religion. Religion is man's creation.

I don't think there's a single person in the world that can claim, for sure, that God definately exists. That's why it is called faith.

God, if he/she/it does exist, has little to do with religion. Religion is man's creation.

Religion is believing in god(s), hows this different?

Some say god has made man in the image of himself, but isn't it more likely man made god in an image of themselves?

Sheer hard-headedness. Fear of the unknown. Tradition.

Misconceptions. Anyway, its partly what Robbopolis said. Although I've never read anything by Francis Schaffer. The other part, well, I can't truly explain it. When someone experiences God they just 'know' it. This may sound arrogant but I simply state that you cannot understand it until you have accepted God and experienced the Holy Ghost yourself. Just like any other situation, you cannot REALLY understand what someone has been through/feels unless it happened to you as well. Even then, you can't understand how THEY experienced it (unless you can read minds of course and are their exact duplicate exposed to every exact experience, etc...). I'm not saying Christians are special, far from it. In fact, anyone can experience God if they are genuinely open, which includes believing. Unfortunately, you can't genuinely open yourself to Jesus if you don't believe.

If some of you don't like my answer then tough, you asked. You're free to believe what you want but it would be appreciated if those that get the urge to flame instead NOT begin flaming or trying to belittle me or my beliefs along the lines of 'you're teh stupid!'. Since I didn't belittle or try to force my beliefs on anyone. So for the sake of avoiding turning this into a flame war try to remain respectful. Thank you.

No, no, no. You're supposed to say, "have you ever heard of fluoridation?"

fluoridation is a canadian conspiracy against the mighty and noble US. ;)

fluoridation is a canadian conspiracy against the mighty and noble US. ;)

I knew it! Those Canadian BASTARDS will pay....

First though I need my tin foil hat, to stop drinking water (only pure, American beer from now on :D), and to pull out these damn flouridized teeth.

Now where are my pliers...

Pretty arrogant. A bit surprising cp,omg from you. Anyway, its partly what Robbopolis said. Although I've never read anything by Francis Schaffer. The other part, well, I can't truly explain it. When someone experiences God they just 'know' it. This may sound arrogant but I simply state that you cannot understand it until you have accepted God and experienced the Holy Ghost yourself. Just like any other situation, you cannot REALLY understand what someone has been through/feels unless it happened to you as well. Even then, you can't understand how THEY experienced it (unless you can read minds of course and are their exact duplicate exposed to every exact experience, etc...). I'm not saying Christians are special, far from it. In fact, anyone can experience God if they are genuinely open, which includes believing. Unfortunately, you can't genuinely open yourself to Jesus if you don't believe.

If some of you don't like my answer then tough, you asked. You're free to believe what you want but it would be appreciated if those that get the urge to flame instead NOT begin flaming or trying to belittle me or my beliefs along the lines of 'you're teh stupid!'. Since I didn't belittle or try to force my beliefs on anyone. So for the sake of avoiding turning this into a flame war try to remain respectful. Thank you.

First: I like your answer though that doesn't mean I'm not going to argue about it, it's what the thread is for.

It just seems to me that most people who experience god are those that were taught to believe in god at an early age and those who had been through hard times and needed to find a way out.

fluoridation is a canadian conspiracy against the mighty and noble US. ;)

Hey, you, stay away from my precious bodily fluids!

hmm...where's whathis name? Term-somethingrather...oh i forgot his name, you know...the guy that was against gay rights, he'll be good in this. Well, he'll make this thread a tad more interesting...
I thought Terminalia got a forumban.

EDIT:Yup (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385066&highlight=terminalia)

First: I like your answer though that doesn't mean I'm not going to argue about it, it's what the thread is for.

It just seems to me that most people who experience god are those that were taught to believe in god at an early age and those who had been through hard times and needed to find a way out.

You're more than welcome to. I just asked for it to remain respectful. And I wanted everyone to understand that I wasn't 'trying to convert', which seems to be a rather sensitive point around here (generalizing I know).

Keep in mind that we are all outside observers on other's experiences though. Maybe they do have more of an inclination due to certain circumstances but it wouldn't be right to assume that those are the only reasons anyone finds religion, no matter what it 'seems' to be.

Lastly, I'm becoming ever more concerned about those damn Canadians and their 'flouride conspiracy' against the US. Good for your teeth my ass! Something has to be done!

Misconceptions. Anyway, its partly what Robbopolis said.......

Yea, I have friends. :D

Ok, what makes you believe in it?

See above post on the first page. Essentially that it makes more sense than anything else on the market. Takes a book to explain it better than that.

It just seems to me that most people who experience god are those that were taught to believe in god at an early age and those who had been through hard times and needed to find a way out.

So you're talking about the people who either had a head-start or a serious motivation involved. How is that different than any other subject? Just because people grew up being taught something doesn't make it bad.

I never used to believe in god, but now that Bush is president I find myself needing someone to pray to.

I never used to believe in god, but now that Bush is president I find myself needing someone to pray to.

"And pray that there's an all-intelligent life out there somewhere/'Cause we're running mighty dumb down here on earth" -- Barry McGuire and Terry Talbot

Because when I pray really hard, a giant ball of fire fall from the sky and vanquish my enemies.And I look into the sky and see a big fat man grinning giving me the thumbs up. :)

Okay seriously.. Well I had a couple of personal experiences and many strange strange things happening in my life.

Hence I believe he exists, well God is a personal God, I can't prove to you God exists over the internet, I guess you just need a personal experience from him yourself.

Just shout out loud "God Show Yourself". And look out when he does. :D

Does anyone here actually believe that their religion is the one and only religion therefore every other religion must be fake?

I am god so how can I be unsure of god?. Im sure it is far easier to prove that I exist than it is to prove that any other religions god exists. You should all just worship me instead.


But I guess you will all need to debate over my existence first.

God hates me. That's why I'm so bored shitless that I'm posting nonsense on this thread.

God hates me. That's why I'm so bored shitless that I'm posting nonsense on this thread.

It's alright, at least you can post nonsense...I tried posting nonsense a few minutes ago and the damn thing wouldn't load

Now someone answer my many questions!

It's alright, at least you can post nonsense...I tried posting nonsense a few minutes ago and the damn thing wouldn't load

Now someone answer my many questions!

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I believe in God from personal life experiences.

When i was born, i had a co-artation. (meaning my aorta was not fully formed) After 7 days, a bypass artery turns into connective tissue and the aorta begins to work. My aorta was not connected so my nody systems started shutting down. My liver was dead, my kidneys were dead, my whole digestive system was dead. I was sent from Ft. Campbell Mil base in Kentuckey to vanderbilt medical center by helicopter, in which i died 3 times and was resecutated.

Docters preformed surgery on me but they sa\id that it probably would have been better had i died. Said i would not walk, would not grow quickly, be mentally retarded, and would require multiple other surgeries including a liver transplant by the time i was 3.

I never had any more operations, never had another thing wrong with my heart. I am 5' 11" tall, and weigh about 240. I graduated High school a year early with a 4.0 and a 35 on my ACT.

This is why i believe there is a god, along with other life experiences at which time i cannot type.

Does anyone here actually believe that their religion is the one and only religion therefore every other religion must be fake?

Yeah, why?

there's no god. except for the god of blue pants (me)

<Nice stuff that happened>


So. What about the people who had that problem but didn't get the happy ending?

Pre-Damned?

I chose the third option because i am an agnostic, so i am not sure whether or not there is a higher power. I don't take the Bible literally, i think it is a piece of literature, some of which teaches lessons we could all stand to live our lives by, whether we believe in it or not. I think it is the word of God, not man, and therefore, not infallible. I don't think any religion is the true religion. I feel that all faiths are valid and people should be able to believe in whatever they want, as long as they don't hurt other people.

I want to add that if chocolate is evil, just call me one of Satan's minions, i'm addicted to it. I like pudding too, but only chocolate.

Just one simple question, what makes people so sure of god?

OK, I decided to put a poll in...yay!

Faith. Also most people who beleive, believe in God not god.