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Do you have substance abuse classes at your school?

New Genoa
12-02-2005, 06:33
I do at my school, and they're a REQUIREMENT (I think all public schools in my city have to do it, not sure though) that must be taken... or you won't graduate or move to the next grade (something like that). It's not my turn yet, but I already have a feeling that it's just going to be a propaganda fest in praise of the drug war.

What do you think?
Neo-Anarchists
12-02-2005, 06:34
They used to, but they gave up by middle school and by high school all they did was hold an occaisonal assembly and have a policeman come in to tell us "Kids, drugs are bad".
Gnostikos
12-02-2005, 06:37
No, though I had rampant substance abuse. Sans the classes.

In actuality, health classes are requisite in both middle and high (secondary) school. Recreational drug use is included in that. I am very glad they do things like that. It is my belief that they should give objective and accurate information on recreational drugs in schools. Allow people to make their own decisions. Though, of course, decriminalisation would be pretty important for this...
New Genoa
12-02-2005, 06:40
They're not a health class, they're dealing exclusively with drug use I believe (including alcohol probably). I had health last year and it was basically anti-drug and so/so on sex.

Oh yeah, and tons of kids use pot at my school too.
Gnostikos
12-02-2005, 06:43
They're not a health class, they're dealing exclusively with drug use I believe (including alcohol probably). I had health last year and it was basically anti-drug and so/so on sex.

Oh yeah, and tons of kids use pot at my school too.
Yeah, anti-drug instruction is about as effective as sexual abstinence education. Strictly abstinence education has shown to make adolescents more likely to have sex earlier, as well as not use contraceptives. Giving unbiased information is the way to go, as it allows people to make their own decisions.
Neo-Anarchists
12-02-2005, 06:45
Giving unbiased information is the way to go, as it allows people to make their own decisions.
:eek:
But then you'd be letting people...
THINK!!!

Oh, the horror!
Gnostikos
12-02-2005, 06:57
:eek:
But then you'd be letting people...
THINK!!!

Oh, the horror!
I know, terrifying, isn't it? But sometimes we've just got to bite the bullet.
BLARGistania
12-02-2005, 07:00
No 'cause I go to a private catholic high school and we would never have those kind of problems there. :rolleyes:

Our school juts kicks people out who have substance abuse problems. Never mind the pronciples son getting caught with weed and being allowed to stay (six seniors from my graduating class of '05 just got expelled because they were caught smoking weed) The rest of us are kinda pissed.
Neo-Anarchists
12-02-2005, 07:13
I know, terrifying, isn't it? But sometimes we've just got to bit the bullet.
Usually the bullets are too busy penetrating the free-thinkers' heads at high velocity to be bitten with much success.
:(
Ecofeminism
12-02-2005, 07:16
lol, i am unfortunately stuck in the beauty that is public schooling. drug abuse isn't considered a problem at my school, its considered the solution. Have ADHD? Smoke some pot and take some ritilan... i mean ummm.

We have anti-drug anti-sex class, and the only thing it did for me was tell me that you can get paid to say 'drugs and sex are bad' while you happen to be high and horny. It's pretty cool.
New Granada
12-02-2005, 07:18
I know, terrifying, isn't it? But sometimes we've just got to bit the bullet.


No. Americans are not to be made to endure anything. Ever.
Ernst_Rohm
12-02-2005, 07:24
i think the kids at the school i teach at many use the bathrooms between classes and the student parking lot for substance abuse. i'm opposed to giving them class time to get high. damn it we have little enough time as it is to cram their little heads full of what's required on all the standardized tests they are forced to take, they can party on their own time.
Gnostikos
12-02-2005, 07:24
lol, i am unfortunately stuck in the beauty that is public schooling. drug abuse isn't considered a problem at my school, its considered the solution. Have ADHD? Smoke some pot and take some ritilan... i mean ummm.
Well, I have ADD. And what is the relation between tetrahydrocannabinol and methylphenidate? Or, rather, what is the relation between pot and Ritalin? Pot is good, indeed, but that certainly wouldn't help with ADD...
West - Europa
12-02-2005, 13:57
What a waste of tax money.
Bottle
12-02-2005, 14:05
I do at my school, and they're a REQUIREMENT (I think all public schools in my city have to do it, not sure though) that must be taken... or you won't graduate or move to the next grade (something like that). It's not my turn yet, but I already have a feeling that it's just going to be a propaganda fest in praise of the drug war.

What do you think?
my high school had "drug education" that flat out lied to students, just like most anti-drug programs do. they taught us that marijuana and cocaine are both physiologically addictive (they aren't), that using alcohol in moderation causes less damage to the human body than marijuana (when it is exactly the opposite), that doing drugs will make you impotent (which is only the case for extreme substance abusers), and that nobody ever succeeds if they do drugs (which is so obviously a lie that i can't believe they said it).

i think it is idiotic for them to lie about drugs that way, because kids ARE going to learn the truth about many of those things, and when they do they will stop trusting everything the drug classes taught. the important information, about the REAL dangers of drugs, needs to be kept pure and apart from the propaganda, because there is information about the risks of drug use that actually needs to get through to students. putting lies into the mix is only going to increase the likelihood that kids will turn their backs on drug education entirely...i knew many people who did exactly that when they learned that smoking a joint doesn't make your penis shrivvel off, and doesn't make you into an instant addict who is turning tricks in alleyways for another fix.
Haken Rider
12-02-2005, 14:10
Never about drugs, once about smoking. Like such things have any influence. Ridiculous!

Smoking is bad!
Smoking is bad!
Smoking is bad!

... what?
New Genoa
12-02-2005, 19:35
I remember when they talked about the effects of LSD once last year. After the class, we were like, "Dude, that sounds AWESOME!" Of course, didn't do it, but still. Hearing colors and seeing sounds does sound pretty cool if you ask me..
Crusty Stuff
12-02-2005, 19:37
I graduated High School in th 70's.



We didn't have substance abuse classes back then.




We had to make do with the actual substance abuse.
Zeppistan
12-02-2005, 19:41
I do at my school, and they're a REQUIREMENT (I think all public schools in my city have to do it, not sure though) that must be taken... or you won't graduate or move to the next grade (something like that). It's not my turn yet, but I already have a feeling that it's just going to be a propaganda fest in praise of the drug war.

What do you think?

I think schools requiring you to abuse substances is a poor idea!


:D
CelebrityFrogs
12-02-2005, 20:03
I do at my school, and they're a REQUIREMENT (I think all public schools in my city have to do it, not sure though) that must be taken... or you won't graduate or move to the next grade (something like that). It's not my turn yet, but I already have a feeling that it's just going to be a propaganda fest in praise of the drug war.

What do you think?

Finished school now! but we never had them! I had to learn how to abuse 'substances' all by myself :(
Drunk commies
12-02-2005, 20:07
I do at my school, and they're a REQUIREMENT (I think all public schools in my city have to do it, not sure though) that must be taken... or you won't graduate or move to the next grade (something like that). It's not my turn yet, but I already have a feeling that it's just going to be a propaganda fest in praise of the drug war.

What do you think?
Yeah, it was part of the "health" curriculum. Also we had to go to school-wide assemblies where some guy told us if we used LSD we'd scoop our eyes out and stab our mothers. Not necessarily in that order.
Drunk commies
12-02-2005, 20:08
I remember when they talked about the effects of LSD once last year. After the class, we were like, "Dude, that sounds AWESOME!" Of course, didn't do it, but still. Hearing colors and seeing sounds does sound pretty cool if you ask me..
I feel cheated. None of the LSD or mushrooms I used made that happen. And I used them in large doses.
Nadkor
12-02-2005, 20:10
yea, if you asked they told you how to roll, where to get the best drugs from, what to take depending on what affect you want, and where the safe places round town to take drugs without the police taking an interest are.

but that was kids outside the classroom

inside it, the teachers pretty much avoided the issue. apart from our history teacher who showed us the best places to inject
Gnostikos
12-02-2005, 20:13
I remember when they talked about the effects of LSD once last year. After the class, we were like, "Dude, that sounds AWESOME!" Of course, didn't do it, but still. Hearing colors and seeing sounds does sound pretty cool if you ask me..
Well, I expect you'd be pretty dissapointed then. Because synaethesia is not really ever brought about by LSD. There is a certain type of tranquiliser used in veterinary medicine that does this, but I forget what it's called. This information is from a very reliable and experienced source.

I feel cheated. None of the LSD or mushrooms I used made that happen. And I used them in large doses.
Which is natural, since you shouldn't unless you have pre-existing psychological problems that LSD can augment.
Gnostikos
12-02-2005, 20:14
inside it, the teachers pretty much avoided the issue. apart from our history teacher who showed us the best places to inject
And where would those be?
CelebrityFrogs
12-02-2005, 20:20
And where would those be?

I'm guessing dark alley ways where the police don't venture too often!!!
Nadkor
12-02-2005, 20:26
And where would those be?
various areas round town where the police dont generally go, and then he reckoned forearm or the bit on the inside of your elbow joint, most accessable
New Genoa
12-02-2005, 20:27
I feel cheated. None of the LSD or mushrooms I used made that happen. And I used them in large doses.

I guess just another example of drug ignorance.
Annatollia
12-02-2005, 20:28
Well, I expect you'd be pretty dissapointed then. Because synaethesia is not really ever brought about by LSD. There is a certain type of tranquiliser used in veterinary medicine that does this, but I forget what it's called. This information is from a very reliable and experienced source.

Ketamine anyone?
Drunk commies
12-02-2005, 20:37
Ketamine anyone?
No thanks. I'm at work.
Gnostikos
12-02-2005, 20:42
Ketamine anyone?
Yeah, now that you mention it that sounds right.
Violets and Kitties
13-02-2005, 00:05
I feel cheated. None of the LSD or mushrooms I used made that happen. And I used them in large doses.

Kinda makes you wonder what drugs the writers of the propaganda were on and where to get hold of some, eh?