NationStates Jolt Archive

1. his administration claims to have made deep cuts in the budget whle his 1.4 trillion tax cut will just ramp it up again.

2. the 'tough" budget does not include the costs of the social security plan.

3. The "tough" budget does not mention Iraq.

As 1 critic said:

"Bush's spending cuts may grab headlines but will have little impact on the tide of red ink that Bush has ridden since 2001." "Bush's budget will obscure an agenda that is likely to generate ever-larger deficits over coming decades" and "Resembles Swiss cheese- and the holes may be more interesting than the substance."

Are these from some ultra'left publication? No, it is from a budget commetary in the newest edition of business week.


and this from the finacial times:

"tough talk, but not enough to reassure the world that the U.S. public finances are in safe hands."

I'm glad the time is finally over where resonable journalists can critise his policies whitout the label of "bush-basher", as has been the case in the past.

i saw the listing of the price slashes for stuff.

as usual, bush is sodomizing everyone through his policies

I wonder if you people read the news just to pick out every little thing Bush has done wrong.

I pitty you.

Why don't you go back and find good things?

You'll probably find just as many things.

I wonder if you people read the news just to pick out every little thing Bush has done wrong.

I pitty you.

Why don't you go back and find good things?

You'll probably find just as many things.
its much easier to find bush sodomizing everyone with his policies than helping anyone

The budget will never be cut if a large part of the money is stuck in entitlements. Since no one in politics will stop the automatic growth I don't care about anybody's plan beacuse none will effectively cut the budget.

::sigh::

I wonder if you people read the news just to pick out every little thing Bush has done wrong.

I pitty you.

Why don't you go back and find good things?

You'll probably find just as many things.

went back into those publications and many others, none had good things to say about the Bush budget, so could you please point me into the direction of good things about Bush's budget because I would like to read them...

Bush is a politician, what do you expect?

Why don't you go back and find good things?


Okie dokie ...

Google searches:
Bush "helpful policy reform" (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=bush+%22helpful+policy+reform%22&btnG=Search), 0 results.

Bush "charitable kindness" (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=bush+%22charitable+kindness%22&btnG=Search), 12 results, but nothing useful.

Bush "peace, brotherhood, and love" (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=bush+%22peace%2C+brotherhood%2C+and+love%22&btnG=Search), 7 results, but nothing useful.

On the other hand:

Bush "war criminal" (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=bush+%22war+criminal%22&btnG=Search), 214,000 results.

Bush "Islamophobia" (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=bush+%22Islamophobia%22&btnG=Search), 30,900 results.

Bush "war monger" (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=bush+%22war+monger%22&spell=1), 30,100 results.

Yes ... fair and balanced ... it's clear that words like "peace" and "love" and "kindness" have little association with Bush, but "war monger", "criminal", and miserable failure (http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html) are the way the winds blow.

Well ... can't say I didn't try.

I wonder if you people read the news just to pick out every little thing Bush has done wrong.

I pitty you.

Why don't you go back and find good things?

You'll probably find just as many things.

Because I don't know of any. I've visited some conservative sites, and they always forget to mention how badly the majority gets scewed. As far as I can tell, the least bad things he dpoes are those that scew the least people. Though I'm sure that was just overlooked by him.

Headstart-funds cut
AmeriCorps-funds cut
Clean water act-funds cut
Medicaid- funds cut
Consumer safety commission-funds cut
Direct student loans-funds cut
Mine Safety and Health Commission-funds cut
School lunches and breakfasts-funds cut


Bush complimenting a program is the kiss of death. Right after he said something good about each of the following, he cut funding-Headstart, AmeriCorps,Mine Safety and school lunches.

Headstart-funds cut
AmeriCorps-funds cut
Clean water act-funds cut
Medicaid- funds cut
Consumer safety commission-funds cut
Direct student loans-funds cut
Mine Safety and Health Commission-funds cut
School lunches and breakfasts-funds cut



Hmm, undertaught kids, dirty water, bad health care, dangerous products, only rich in college, mines collapsing, and under nourished school kids. Hopefully these will be the Bush legacy.

That he's full of crap should be obvious. He's called himself the "enviromental president",the "educational president" and a "compassionate conservative." And he nominates nuts like Gonzales then talks about bipartisanship. This when his appointments keep getting farther and farther to the right. :gundge:

Hey Bush, where's all the fiscal conservatism I hear so much about??? He spends like a liberal . . .

I have not looked at the details, and I do not intend to do so.

The US internal economy is of concern for the citizens of the USA, not of anyone else. At least that is what certain Americans keep telling us here anyway.

That they also tell us that the worlds economy depends on them, is of course, completely irrelevant.

:confused:

Okie dokie ...

Google searches:
Bush "peace, brotherhood, and love" (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=bush+%22peace%2C+brotherhood%2C+and+love%22&btnG=Search), 7 results, but nothing useful.

On the other hand:

Bush peace brotherhood love (http://www.google.com.br/search?q=Bush+peace+brotherhood+love&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official) without the quote marks, 121,000 results.

I am not a Bush supporter by any means, but please try to respect the intelligence of the people here.

Somehow I have to wonder what percentages of hits on a search that includes the words "love" and "bush" would actually relate to GW.....


:D

I wonder if you people read the news just to pick out every little thing Bush has done wrong.

I pitty you.

Why don't you go back and find good things?

You'll probably find just as many things.
Short of hack journals like Newsmax and World Net Daily (both of which are puppet rags about as honest as Weekly World News), where do you propose we start? I'll admit that there are a few tiny things that Bush has done well. I think his response to 9/11 in invading Afghanistan was the right thing to do, although his handling of Afghanistan since then has been sloppy. I think desposing Saddam Hussein was the right thing to do, but he went about it the wrong way and for the wrong reasons. I think "No Child Left Behind" has potential, except that the Bush administration, which ironically sponsored the thing, pays nothing more than lip service to it. While having my taxes cut seems like a great thing on the surface, it was done at exactly the wrong time -- you don't drastically cut taxes when your treasury is in the worst deficit in its history.

Somehow I have to wonder what percentages of hits on a search that includes the words "love" and "bush" would actually relate to GW.....


:D

True, I hadn't really thought of that one. :rolleyes:

I just looked at the poll results, and one person actually voted for "Perfect." That's ... uh ... amazing! I'm amazed that there are people who are that gullible in the world!

Bush peace brotherhood love without the quote marks, 121,000 results.

I am not a Bush supporter by any means, but please try to respect the intelligence of the people here.

If you take out the quote marks, you'll get every page that has the words peace, brotherhood, love, or bush. You'll even get sites that say something like "This topiary bush fills you with peace, doesn't it love?"

Bush peace brotherhood love (http://www.google.com.br/search?q=Bush+peace+brotherhood+love&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official) without the quote marks, 121,000 results.

I am not a Bush supporter by any means, but please try to respect the intelligence of the people here.

Ok all you did was increase the hits for each particular word. Looking through your hit list really doesn't show anything of support for the shrub.

I wonder if you people read the news just to pick out every little thing Bush has done wrong.

I pitty you.

Why don't you go back and find good things?

You'll probably find just as many things.

GOSH! Don't you know that Bush never does anything right??? I mean, COME ON! A US president should NEVER bomb a country (unless it is to take away from the attention he is grabbing for doing the whippity whoppity with his intern). I mean, why can't they all be like Clinton?? He was perfect. I mean, well, ALL democrat presidents are perfect. Them damn republicans are the ones that eff everything up!
</sarcasm>

Why can't we have a libertarian president?

Why can't we have a libertarian president?

Because not enough people voted for one.

Because not enough people voted for one.

Actually, I think it is something to do with the electoral college - if you want to be pedantic about it.

If the economy is growing, more people have more money.
If more people have more money, then there are less poor people.
If there are less poor people, than there is less need for programs to help poor people.
Therefore, there funding should be cut.

On the other hand, defense spending is basically capital spending. Think you would have television, computers, LCD screens, can openers, etc, without military spending.
Think again...


This isn't to say I agree with the Bush budget, of course. Only to make sure people understand that Bush isn't the devil just because he spends money for bombs and not on programs.

There is a diffence between a lie and an ommision

GOSH! Don't you know that Bush never does anything right??? I mean, COME ON! A US president should NEVER bomb a country (unless it is to take away from the attention he is grabbing for doing the whippity whoppity with his intern). I mean, why can't they all be like Clinton?? He was perfect. I mean, well, ALL democrat presidents are perfect. Them damn republicans are the ones that eff everything up!
</sarcasm>
You sold me I'm always voting Democrat now :P

But Clinton was perfect as possibly for a President. Morally I could care less as long as he made the nation good for me.

Why can't we have a libertarian president?

Libertarians are so close to Republicans that they never get votes (after all most Libertarians vote Republican so its a no wonder)

If the economy is growing, more people have more money.
If more people have more money, then there are less poor people.
If there are less poor people, than there is less need for programs to help poor people.
Therefore, there funding should be cut.

On the other hand, defense spending is basically capital spending. Think you would have television, computers, LCD screens, can openers, etc, without military spending.
Think again...


This isn't to say I agree with the Bush budget, of course. Only to make sure people understand that Bush isn't the devil just because he spends money for bombs and not on programs.

And the more money you have the more you will get, making the rich richer and the poor poorer.

I wonder if you people read the news just to pick out every little thing Bush has done wrong.

I pitty you.

Why don't you go back and find good things?

You'll probably find just as many things.

Well, I tried cutting everything, except what he's done right, out of the paper and it turned out that all I was left with was the margin.

Can I vote for all options between 1 and 4?

Please? :D

Well, I tried cutting everything, except what he's done right, out of the paper and it turned out that all I was left with was the margin.

Just a serious question, what did he do wrong with the tsunami relief? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just wondering, because I know liberals and such would be up in arms (or up in trees?) if he would have waited a second longer on the tsunami, yet they also aren't happy that he did do something.

Just a serious question, what did he do wrong with the tsunami relief? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just wondering, because I know liberals and such would be up in arms (or up in trees?) if he would have waited a second longer on the tsunami, yet they also aren't happy that he did do something.

Well, starting off by offering a paltry 4 million was pretty sucky. And following that up with his propagandists saying things like 'well America is giving about .1 cents for every person and China is only giving about .001 cents per person. So who's cheap now?' while neglecting to mention that the average income in China is measured in hundreds of dollars and that as a proportion of individual citizens income China gave more and China is only a developing nation.

And then there was his failure to denounce that portion of his electoral base that called for more and greater such disasters to strike Muslims and Swedes. (http://www.godhatessweden.com/) .

We don't go out of our way to find instances of George Bush being a cruel obnoxious jerk. In fact people are constantly astonished at the speed the reflexes with which I change the radio or TV station when they begin to broadcast his idiotic and ironic platitudes or his smug grin just so that I can avoid news of his latest folly.

I found one good thing in the US budget ... For Australia and other agricultural heavyweights.

If the Bush Administration gets its way on the budget, farm subsidies will drop substantially allowing cheaper imports from Australia and a lot of 3rd world agricultural nations to compete with US equivalents. I guess that isn't good news for American Farmers, but its real good news for many struggling countries, and a real boost to Australia's potential export trade.

Who ever would have thought that increased military spending would ever show the way to improved free trade? :)

Semar

I'm glad I'm not American! At least Australia has a budget in good state, but our foreign trading deficit is heading the US way (up and up and up and up).

And then there was his failure to denounce that portion of his electoral base that called for more and greater such disasters to strike Muslims and Swedes. (http://www.godhatessweden.com/) .


Bullshit. These are a couple dozen people in Kansas with reactionary websites. They have no influence here or anywhere else in the world. No politician should have to answer to foreigners about a half dozen weirdos out in some cornfield.

And to the original post: the tax cut takes place over 5 years.. the 1.1 trillion in relief is spread out over that time.. it's not as if nullifying the cuts would save those programs, most of which are useless or not performing their function; most of the valuable programs have been cut by negligable amounts.

Reminds me of the Superfund scam they tried to pull a few years ago.. Bush gave them the same funding as the previous year, but Superfund claimed it was a huge cut, simply by telling their accountants to write another 50 billion in unapproved proposals, just to make PR waves against Bush when he hadn't broken a single promise. The government has to cut back, and that's all there is to it.

Bullshit. These are a couple dozen people in Kansas with reactionary websites. They have no influence here or anywhere else in the world. No politician should have to answer to foreigners about a half dozen weirdos out in some cornfield.

And to the original post: the tax cut takes place over 5 years.. the 1.1 trillion in relief is spread out over that time.. it's not as if nullifying the cuts would save those programs, most of which are useless or not performing their function; most of the valuable programs have been cut by negligable amounts.

Reminds me of the Superfund scam they tried to pull a few years ago.. Bush gave them the same funding as the previous year, but Superfund claimed it was a huge cut, simply by telling their accountants to write another 50 billion in unapproved proposals, just to make PR waves against Bush when he hadn't broken a single promise. The government has to cut back, and that's all there is to it.

How about cutting the top 1% tax cut which amounts to about twice his budget cuts?

And every time some loonie from the middle east decided to blow himself up the first words out of Bush's mouth were always "we're not going to say another word to Arafat until he denounces these bombings." Religous wackos in this country form the core of the Bush base. Sure, the site I pointed out was among the worst, but the entire Southern Baptist Pro-Bush movment has some totaly morally bankrupt ideals that it touts proudly. With pride being a major sin if I remember my theology right.

Hey Bush, where's all the fiscal conservatism I hear so much about??? He spends like a liberal . . .
. . .and taxes like a conservative. Bad combonation.

Just curious as to why Pepe thinks Headstart, free school lunches and medicaid for the children of the poor are useless programs.

It's politically naive....oh hell...it's just naive to believe that a president, any president, is single handedly responsible for defecits, taxation, and the dire state of a national budget.

The president is just the scapegoat guy, the poor sod who gets all the grief. I'm not just talking about this president. To say that Bush is the political equivalent of Satan is every bit dumb as saying that Clinton was.

The fact is there's lots of blame to be spread around Through their devious and blowhardy machinations, certainly the House and Senate are accountable. But more importantly, through our inaction, we're to blame for letting our government get off it's leash. For a participatory government, we've got damned few people participating.

Voting isn't enough. Standing out in front of the White House or the office of your Congressman or Senator carrying a placard and shouting epithets and clever iconoclastic slogans wearing faded jeans, tie-dyed T-shirt, and too much patchouli and sunglasses to hide the fact that your eyes are still red from the doob you smoked before you got to the rally isn't enough either. Writing the occasional bitch letter to the op-ed page or elected official isn't enough. They aren't even a good start. If the process is important enough to bitch about with such conviction, and since it effects our lives and futures in such powerful ways, becoming part of the process is requisite. That means communication with elected officials regularly without raising your voice, and without telling them that they are immoral, dishonest slobs who are fucking up the economy, the environment, the liberty of the people and the fabric of society. That means that more people need to walk into the offices of their local, state and federal representatives and not behave like a Jerry Springer audience, bringing ideas and solutions while leaving insults and accusations at the door.

It's incredibly easy to be an armchair quarterback and spit venom and bile at Bush on some BBS between games of Tetris and Google searches for Brad, Jen and Angelina while sitting in front of a computer. It's another thing entirely to get up off of your internet-softened ass and become part of the solution. If your life sucks so badly under this or any president, then the investment in time and energy required to become involved is golden. Of course, you don't get the immediate satisfaction that comes from lobbing ad hominems at politicians, and basking in the adoration of your fellow malcontents. And, of course, you'll get a little behind on the latest developments regarding Brad, Jen and Angelina, but the effort to participate buys you a legitimate right to bitch, and might pay off in fewer things to bitch about.

Or, you can grab another bag of chips, snag a beer or Coke from the fridge, settle back into your well-worn computer chair and think of new and clever ways to say "Bush Sucks" on the internet, assured in the knowledge that you'll have a lifetime of venting your spleen in 'net forums while never having to leave the house.

I wonder if you people read the news just to pick out every little thing Bush has done wrong.

I pitty you.

Why don't you go back and find good things?

You'll probably find just as many things.
As pertinent to the Arbusto administration, it's vital to point out the lack of integrity that motherf*cker brought the United States down to.
You are more than welcome to point out good things in the world, i would further encourage you. But before you comment in contradiction to the FACTS of this and other Arbusto administration situations, bear in mind that
WE ARE PAYING FOR THIS! A LOT OF US WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION OR BLESSING!
Save your pity for yourself as long as it takes to motivate you to find out what's actually going on that actually involves you and people who don't deserve that piece of mierda .... and then do the right thing. Don't dissuade people from reckoning and the realization that they need to make things better for themselves. It's not all peaches and cream.
Wow, the post above says a lot of this already. Difference is Bush is specifically responsible for the appointments and retention of many of the people who set policy (example: the new appointments of Karl Rove) and thus the House and Senate in their infinite wisdom have proportionate responsibility over what gets filtered to them. Doesn't excuse the Patriot Act though.

Being the enourmous piece of work that it is, I have yet to complete reading it. The only data I have on the topic is those pundits that have selected pieces of it.

I will weigh in once I have read it.

Wait, why should I do that. Those that will vote on it, and have expounded on it already, have no real clue of it's contents... (rhetorical question)

Okie dokie ...

Google searches:
Bush "helpful policy reform" (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=bush+%22helpful+policy+reform%22&btnG=Search), 0 results.

Bush "charitable kindness" (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=bush+%22charitable+kindness%22&btnG=Search), 12 results, but nothing useful.

Bush "peace, brotherhood, and love" (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=bush+%22peace%2C+brotherhood%2C+and+love%22&btnG=Search), 7 results, but nothing useful.

On the other hand:

Bush "war criminal" (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=bush+%22war+criminal%22&btnG=Search), 214,000 results.

Bush "Islamophobia" (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=bush+%22Islamophobia%22&btnG=Search), 30,900 results.

Bush "war monger" (http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=bush+%22war+monger%22&spell=1), 30,100 results.

Yes ... fair and balanced ... it's clear that words like "peace" and "love" and "kindness" have little association with Bush, but "war monger", "criminal", and miserable failure (http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html) are the way the winds blow.

Well ... can't say I didn't try.
Hear, hear!
Maybe Sarandra means something like :fluffle:
I'm sharing ... anyone else? *blink* *blink*

Being the enourmous piece of work that it is, I have yet to complete reading it. The only data I have on the topic is those pundits that have selected pieces of it.

I will weigh in once I have read it.

Wait, why should I do that. Those that will vote on it, and have expounded on it already, have no real clue of it's contents... (rhetorical question)
Exactly. *sigh*

I wonder if you people read the news just to pick out every little thing Bush has done wrong.

I pitty you.

Why don't you go back and find good things?

You'll probably find just as many things.

Curious:

When you go to the doctor, do you want him to tell you that your head, neck, body, and arms are fine?

Or do you want him to tell you that your legs are going to have to be removed if you don't take medication?

GOSH! Don't you know that Bush never does anything right??? I mean, COME ON! A US president should NEVER bomb a country (unless it is to take away from the attention he is grabbing for doing the whippity whoppity with his intern). I mean, why can't they all be like Clinton?? He was perfect. I mean, well, ALL democrat presidents are perfect. Them damn republicans are the ones that eff everything up!
</sarcasm>
Someone's shorts are a little soiled with appreciation for a public indiscretion spectacle ...
Bush isn't anywhere near even including "perfect" in the topic line. Neither was Clinton but you have to understand or at least learn what the actual f*cking function of the president is. Your post seems to indicate that you don't.
Try reading up the numbers a little and see how they work out. There are more than a few people here willing to help, obviously.

Increase in budget for Pentagon is 5%, to $419 billion.
Cost of medicare "adjustment" from stated $400 billion to stated revision $534 billion to the current cost assumption of $724 billion.
Mind you, as even republicans are bitching about this, Bush is threatening to use the only veto put to paper on his part for his republican majority if anyone tries to ADJUST the issue to fit REALITY a little better.
Being cut ("adjusted") as well as some already mentioned are funding for local police agencies and local firefighters ....
$600 mil grant program from police, $215 mil from firefighters, $450 mil (6%) off of EPA, $100 million off of the Bureau of Indian Affairs.
Tech/comm improvement allotments for police departments and corollaries also being cut.
There's other numbers of course .... someone else can do that if they want.

Someone's shorts are a little soiled with appreciation for a public indiscretion spectacle ...
Bush isn't anywhere near even including "perfect" in the topic line. Neither was Clinton but you have to understand or at least learn what the actual f*cking function of the president is. Your post seems to indicate that you don't.
Try reading up the numbers a little and see how they work out. There are more than a few people here willing to help, obviously.

Did I say bush was perfect?
no
Did I have perfect in the topic line?
no
I know what the function of the president is.
Do you?

It's politically naive....oh hell...it's just naive to believe that a president, any president, is single handedly responsible for defecits, taxation, and the dire state of a national budget.

The president is just the scapegoat guy, the poor sod who gets all the grief. I'm not just talking about this president. To say that Bush is the political equivalent of Satan is every bit dumb as saying that Clinton was.

The fact is there's lots of blame to be spread around Through their devious and blowhardy machinations, certainly the House and Senate are accountable. But more importantly, through our inaction, we're to blame for letting our government get off it's leash. For a participatory government, we've got damned few people participating.

Voting isn't enough. Standing out in front of the White House or the office of your Congressman or Senator carrying a placard and shouting epithets and clever iconoclastic slogans wearing faded jeans, tie-dyed T-shirt, and too much patchouli and sunglasses to hide the fact that your eyes are still red from the doob you smoked before you got to the rally isn't enough either. Writing the occasional bitch letter to the op-ed page or elected official isn't enough. They aren't even a good start. If the process is important enough to bitch about with such conviction, and since it effects our lives and futures in such powerful ways, becoming part of the process is requisite. That means communication with elected officials regularly without raising your voice, and without telling them that they are immoral, dishonest slobs who are fucking up the economy, the environment, the liberty of the people and the fabric of society. That means that more people need to walk into the offices of their local, state and federal representatives and not behave like a Jerry Springer audience, bringing ideas and solutions while leaving insults and accusations at the door.

It's incredibly easy to be an armchair quarterback and spit venom and bile at Bush on some BBS between games of Tetris and Google searches for Brad, Jen and Angelina while sitting in front of a computer. It's another thing entirely to get up off of your internet-softened ass and become part of the solution. If your life sucks so badly under this or any president, then the investment in time and energy required to become involved is golden. Of course, you don't get the immediate satisfaction that comes from lobbing ad hominems at politicians, and basking in the adoration of your fellow malcontents. And, of course, you'll get a little behind on the latest developments regarding Brad, Jen and Angelina, but the effort to participate buys you a legitimate right to bitch, and might pay off in fewer things to bitch about.

Or, you can grab another bag of chips, snag a beer or Coke from the fridge, settle back into your well-worn computer chair and think of new and clever ways to say "Bush Sucks" on the internet, assured in the knowledge that you'll have a lifetime of venting your spleen in 'net forums while never having to leave the house.

Since I have become of voting age 3 yrs. ago, I have signed and led petitions, wrote letter e-mails and called my legislators, and voted responsibly for people I believe I could do the job no matter their affiliation. And this is the budget BUSH has proposed, so I would say he's responsible. I have never raised my voice or promtoed violence in any way in my dealings with them. I only wish more people my age would voice their opions to elected officals than sitting in starbucks bitching. I bitch here to let off steam that in real life could lead to problems. I don't care if I piss you people off. I don't drink pop,eat snacks, or use illegal drugs so screw you, I have never made a personal attack on anyone so why should you?

Curious:

When you go to the doctor, do you want him to tell you that your head, neck, body, and arms are fine?

Or do you want him to tell you that your legs are going to have to be removed if you don't take medication?

If he's going to tell me that, I sure do want him to tell me the rest is fine.

Been there, done that. Substitute lung and spine for legs and you're pretty darn close.

Steton, I don't think it's you that Chyornabog was talking about. Rather, I suspect that it was people like
I just looked at the poll results, and one person actually voted for "Perfect." That's ... uh ... amazing! I'm amazed that there are people who are that gullible in the world!
that, who seem to
A) Not be able to accept that others might have different opinions,
and
B) Assume that said people are dribbling idiots if they do.

Steton, I don't think it's you that Chyornabog was talking about. Rather, I suspect that it was people like

that, who seem to
A) Not be able to accept that others might have different opinions,
and
B) Assume that said people are dribbling idiots if they do.


While not exactly what he was looking for, Diogenes would have been happy to have run into you Gurguvungunit

Did I say bush was perfect?
no
Did I have perfect in the topic line?
no
I know what the function of the president is.
Do you?
He/she SURE AS F*CK is NOT the moral representative of the United States and references of import to those kinds of stupid indiscretions tend to fluff up your opinion past the reality of said function. That's the point, so get over it.

Bush lied!, what a suprise :rolleyes: