NationStates Jolt Archive


Why Do I Care?

Gnostikos
11-02-2005, 16:22
Why is it that I care what other people think? Why do I try to persuade the creationists and intelligent designists? This isn't a question of why I attempt such an impossible task, but why I even care. Shouldn't I just try to increase my own knowledge and express my opinions when they're wanted among those who care?
Markreich
11-02-2005, 16:28
My guess is that your believe in your convictions, and because of that, feel the need for others to see the light.
NOTBAD
11-02-2005, 16:32
I don't know.... why do we care?
Gnostikos
11-02-2005, 16:34
My guess is that your believe in your convictions, and because of that, feel the need for others to see the light.
That is true, but why is it that I proselytise? Why do I give a damn whether others see the light or not?
LazyHippies
11-02-2005, 16:37
why do I care why you care?
Kanabia
11-02-2005, 16:39
Because someone has to do it, and I don't have the patience myself. :)
The Imperial Navy
11-02-2005, 16:39
I care because I can. I stand up for what I believe in. I fight for as long as I can. I follow my philosophy-NEVER GIVE UP!
Eutrusca
11-02-2005, 16:40
Why is it that I care what other people think? Why do I try to persuade the creationists and intelligent designists? This isn't a question of why I attempt such an impossible task, but why I even care. Shouldn't I just try to increase my own knowledge and express my opinions when they're wanted among those who care?

Yes. :)
Gnostikos
11-02-2005, 16:42
I care because I can. I stand up for what I believe in. I fight for as long as I can. I follow my philosophy-NEVER GIVE UP!
Sure, stand up for what you believe in. But why do you care what others think, unless it directly affects you?
The Imperial Navy
11-02-2005, 16:43
Sure, stand up for what you believe in. But why do you care what others think, unless it directly affects you?

If others clearly proove me wrong with fully backed up evidence, I shall believe them.

Otherwise I shall continue to fight for my beliefs.
Ashmoria
11-02-2005, 16:44
Why is it that I care what other people think? Why do I try to persuade the creationists and intelligent designists? This isn't a question of why I attempt such an impossible task, but why I even care. Shouldn't I just try to increase my own knowledge and express my opinions when they're wanted among those who care?
if you are doing this in real life where no one ever debates religion, you are being obnoxious and should stop it (just as you wish those JW guys would stop knocking on your door)

if you are only doing it HERE, its because in theory the people who read it and debate you back want to do so. so there is nothing wrong with sharpening your responses to typical creationist arguments.
Gnostikos
11-02-2005, 16:45
Otherwise I shall continue to fight for my beliefs.
Oh, by god I think it just hit me! Ideas and beliefs are like DNA! Could it be that ideas and beliefs are just trying to propagate themselves through the vessel of people?
Drunk commies
11-02-2005, 16:46
Maybe you just like to argue. I know I do.
The Imperial Navy
11-02-2005, 16:47
Oh, by god I think it just hit me! Ideas and beliefs are like DNA! Could it be that ideas and beliefs are just trying to propagate themselves through the vessel of people?

Perhaps... but do you have any clear proof? ;)
Gnostikos
11-02-2005, 16:47
if you are doing this in real life where no one ever debates religion, you are being obnoxious and should stop it (just as you wish those JW guys would stop knocking on your door)
I've never argued evolution in real life. However, there are other things as well. Since I love arguments, I often get into them with other people. But those are typically more factual and less with beliefs.
Gnostikos
11-02-2005, 16:48
Perhaps... but do you have any clear proof? ;)
Nope.
The Imperial Navy
11-02-2005, 16:50
Nope.

Then I don't believe you. ;)
Gnostikos
11-02-2005, 16:58
Then I don't believe you. ;)
Well, you see, that was just an idea that popped into my head. I am not firm on its verity at all. I was mainly putting it out there to see what others thought of it.
Transhumanity Omega
11-02-2005, 17:04
Oh, by god I think it just hit me! Ideas and beliefs are like DNA! Could it be that ideas and beliefs are just trying to propagate themselves through the vessel of people?

It's called memetic theory. google it. some fascinating stuff. And it'll also show you how others use the ideas as a virus meme to try to infect others with their beliefs.
Jesussaves
11-02-2005, 17:07
You argue against god becaus you are either posesed by a demon or you are just crazy. Some times athiests get posesed by demons becaus they dont' have Jesus in thyr hearts to keep evil away.
The Imperial Navy
11-02-2005, 17:09
You argue against god becaus you are either posesed by a demon or you are just crazy. Some times athiests get posesed by demons becaus they dont' have Jesus in thyr hearts to keep evil away.

Are you an Evangellist?
Gnostikos
11-02-2005, 17:15
It's called memetic theory. google it. some fascinating stuff. And it'll also show you how others use the ideas as a virus meme to try to infect others with their beliefs.
Extremely intrguing, I must say! I would have come up with that eventually anyways, since apparently it originated in The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins, which is very high on my to-read list. Dawkins comes up with a lot of mind blowing concepts, though. Thanks!

You argue against god becaus you are either posesed by a demon or you are just crazy. Some times athiests get posesed by demons becaus they dont' have Jesus in thyr hearts to keep evil away.
Oh, it's the latter, I assure you. I'm batshit insane! So no worries about demonic entities, I'm just a little off in the head.
Jesussaves
11-02-2005, 17:18
Are you an Evangellist?
I'm a First Baptist.
The Imperial Navy
11-02-2005, 17:21
I'm a First Baptist.

Oh dear... please don't try to force your beliefs on others. Our beliefs are the one major freedom we have... unless you live in america, where it's: "You're either christian or a terrorist!"
Eutrusca
11-02-2005, 17:27
Oh dear... please don't try to force your beliefs on others. Our beliefs are the one major freedom we have... unless you live in america, where it's: "You're either christian or a terrorist!"

Sigh. And just when I was starting to really like you too! :(
Cambridge Major
11-02-2005, 17:31
Oh, by god I think it just hit me! Ideas and beliefs are like DNA! Could it be that ideas and beliefs are just trying to propagate themselves through the vessel of people?
Trying is the wrong word; I know I am being picky, and I am deeply sorry.
Drunk commies
11-02-2005, 17:31
Oh dear... please don't try to force your beliefs on others. Our beliefs are the one major freedom we have... unless you live in america, where it's: "You're either christian or a terrorist!"
I live in the USA, I'm an atheist. I have never been accused of being a terrorist. Maybe you should get your facts strait before posting such slander.
Gnostikos
11-02-2005, 17:53
I live in the USA, I'm an atheist. I have never been accused of being a terrorist. Maybe you should get your facts strait before posting such slander.
That was a hyperbolic statement. I am also an American atheist, and I certainly don't feel offended. And it was libel, slander is spoken.
Drunk commies
11-02-2005, 18:00
That was a hyperbolic statement. I am also an American atheist, and I certainly don't feel offended. And it was libel, slander is spoken.
Oh, poop. You got me there. It was a libelous statement.
Markreich
11-02-2005, 21:40
That is true, but why is it that I proselytise? Why do I give a damn whether others see the light or not?

If you're at all like me, you can't stand the idea that there are people out there who just plain have the wrong idea... that believe something you feel is absolutely true.

I'm that way with people who deny the moon landings happened. Or disparage Rutherford B. Hayes.
Markreich
11-02-2005, 21:45
I live in the USA, I'm an atheist. I have never been accused of being a terrorist. Maybe you should get your facts strait before posting such slander.

YEAH!

My buddy DC may been confused on a few other issues, but that's just because he's from Jersey!!

(ducks!!! Starts heading back towards Bridgeport...)
Neo-Anarchists
11-02-2005, 21:52
Oh, by god I think it just hit me! Ideas and beliefs are like DNA! Could it be that ideas and beliefs are just trying to propagate themselves through the vessel of people?
Have you ever read about memetics?
There's a whole are of, well, I guess it falls under sociology, that centers on this.