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Best War Movie?

Daistallia 2104
11-02-2005, 07:16
Well? (The poll can't possibly get them all ;)))
Kreitzmoorland
11-02-2005, 07:17
Apocalypse Now
Schindler's List
Gallipoli
Lacadaemon II
11-02-2005, 07:20
Patton.

(I actually like Tunes of Glory the better, but it's not really about war, just crazy scottish soldiers.)

Then dambusters, because you can see where George Lucas stole a great deal of star wars.

Edit: Light Horsemen (1987) is also pretty cool.
Der Fuhrer Dyszel
11-02-2005, 07:23
Schindler's List
Saving Private Ryan
Gettysburg
We Were Soldiers
Der Fuhrer Dyszel
11-02-2005, 07:27
*lol*

And I'd say let's throw Das Boot in there as well, but I am not sure if anyone watched that movie.

;)
Lacadaemon II
11-02-2005, 07:28
*lol*

And I'd say let's throw Das Boot in there as well, but I am not sure if anyone watched that movie.

;)

Yes, it's actually an excellent movie, though the special effects are a little naff.
Newtburg
11-02-2005, 07:28
Schindler's List
Saving Private Ryan
Gettysburg
We Were Soldiers


i agree
Zahumlje
11-02-2005, 07:30
Nicije Zemelje (No Man's Land)
Schindlers List
Full Metal Jacket
Platoon
Battle of the Neretva (I say this because I've actually seen the place this battle took place)
Welcome to Sarajevo (hey Goran Visnijic is in it!)
Spartacus
Braveheart (despite really stupid glareing historical klangers)
Micheal Collins
Exodus
Battle of Algiers, very important to understanding about terrorism
Lost Command
Zulu, wonderful portrayals both of the Zulus, and the brave Welsh soldiers who fought them, believe it or not there is a really touching sing where the Welsh dudes sing, to keep themselves going. Glorious voices.
Lawrence of Arabia
Khartoom
Kolya (I think that's the title, it's about WWII in what used to be called Yugoslavia, it's really a good film, even if it's basically propaganda, saw it on TV while visiting Sarajevo in 1998)
The Lightning Star
11-02-2005, 07:40
Either We were Soldiers(The "and young" isn't in the title of the movie), or The Thin Red Line.

Or, if it counts, Band of Brothers.
Andaluciae
11-02-2005, 07:40
Apocalypse Now,

oh yeah, watch out for Ogiek, he might come in here and start complaining about how you're perpetuating the culture of war by supporting these films...
Daistallia 2104
11-02-2005, 07:43
Then dambusters, because you can see where George Lucas stole a great deal of star wars.

Yep, the last bit of A New Hope was out of the Dambusters. But Star Wars owes a lot more to Flash Gordon, Kurosawa, especially his Kakushi Toride no San Akunin (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0051808/), and Joseph Campbell's The Hero With a Thousand Faces

See "How did George Lucas create Star Wars?" (http://www.jitterbug.com/origins/) for more details. The section on Campbell's influance is especially interesting.
The Lightning Star
11-02-2005, 07:43
Apocalypse Now,

oh yeah, watch out for Ogiek, he might come in here and start complaining about how you're perpetuating the culture of war by supporting these films...

I have but one question...

Whats wrong with war?

War is the driving forve behind Human Civilization. Take out war and we got nuthin. Almost 90% of our inventions were made due to a war, so without War we'd prolly be as advanced as....oh.... The Ancient Sumerians.
Lacadaemon II
11-02-2005, 07:45
Yep, the last bit of A New Hope was out of the Dambusters. But Star Wars owes a lot more to Flash Gordon, Kurosawa, especially his Kakushi Toride no San Akunin (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0051808/), and Joseph Campbell's The Hero With a Thousand Faces

See "How did George Lucas create Star Wars?" (http://www.jitterbug.com/origins/) for more details. The section on Campbell's influance is especially interesting.

I knew about the others. What always struck me with the dambusters portion though is the wholesale lifting of some dialog.
Andaluciae
11-02-2005, 07:45
I have but one question...

Whats wrong with war?

War is the driving forve behind Human Civilization. Take out war and we got nuthin. Almost 90% of our inventions were made due to a war, so without War we'd prolly be as advanced as....oh.... The Ancient Sumerians.
Of course I understand that, I'm just saying watch out for Ogiek, as he's very likely to come here and troll. (he did that in a thread I started a while back about how the Polish-Bolshevik War should be taught about in schools.)
NSZA
11-02-2005, 07:47
Band of brothers (if you consider it a really huge movie)
The thin red line
Black hawk down
Hart's war
Tuniskee arimen (correct me on the spelling)
Lol and Star wars ( it is considerd a war movie right)
The Lightning Star
11-02-2005, 07:48
Of course I understand that, I'm just saying watch out for Ogiek, as he's very likely to come here and troll. (he did that in a thread I started a while back about how the Polish-Bolshevik War should be taught about in schools.)

It should.

I say we tar and feather Ogiek!

...

Or just ignore him if he tries to hijack/troll.
Daistallia 2104
11-02-2005, 07:52
Either We were Soldiers(The "and young" isn't in the title of the movie), or The Thin Red Line.

Or, if it counts, Band of Brothers.

IMDB lists it as Also Known As: We Were Soldiers Once... and Young (http://imdb.com/title/tt0277434/), but yes the release title was just We Were Soldiers. My bad. :)
The Cassini Belt
11-02-2005, 07:53
Black Hawk Down
Guns of Navarone

not necessarily "best", but pretty good and curiously absent from poll and I don't think anyone else has mentioned them yet?

probably throw in The Wild Geese as well for a different kind of war...
The Lightning Star
11-02-2005, 07:55
Black Hawk Down
Guns of Navarone

not necessarily "best", but pretty good and curiously absent from poll and I don't think anyone else has mentioned them yet?

probably throw in The Wild Geese as well for a different kind of war...

Black Hawk Down is the best movie about Modern Warfare, but not the best movie of warfare.
NSZA
11-02-2005, 07:57
Black Hawk Down
Guns of Navarone

not necessarily "best", but pretty good and curiously absent from poll and I don't think anyone else has mentioned them yet?

probably throw in The Wild Geese as well for a different kind of war...


Check my post on page one dude.......
Delator
11-02-2005, 08:01
In Order

1. Full Metal Jacket
2. Three Kings
3. Gettysburg
4. Enemy at the Gates
5. Midway
Calyx
11-02-2005, 08:03
Err.. guys, how about

The Deer Hunter

The russian roulette scenes are probably the most heart pounding I've seen in any war movie.
Crimson Sparta
11-02-2005, 08:05
Patton & MacArthur
The Cassini Belt
11-02-2005, 08:05
Black Hawk Down is the best movie about Modern Warfare, but not the best movie of warfare.

Agreed, to both. It portrays many elements of so-called "Low-Intensity Conflict" quite accurately. Off the top of my head...

"J6-4, there are hostiles advancing west of your position. Please be advised there are women and children among them"
"It's our war, not yours" - "300,000 dead and counting? That's not war, that's genocide."
"Hunger was his weapon"
"This food is the property of Mohammed Farah Aidid"

etc.
Daistallia 2104
11-02-2005, 08:07
More that have yet to be mentioned:
Go Tell The Spartans
The Bridge on the River Kwai
Sergeant York
Henry V
The Great Escape
Where Eagles Dare
Stalingrad
Talvisota (The Winter War)
Dogs of War
From Here to Eternity
Sand of Iwo Jima
The Enemy Below

Not enough room, Cassini Belt. And the Wild Geese was good but the sequel was awful!
Helioterra
11-02-2005, 08:24
A bridge too far is brilliant but my favourite is either Apocalypse Now or Paths of Clory.
The Cassini Belt
11-02-2005, 08:32
Ok, let me point out that I really hated "The Thin Red Line"... I know people like it, but why, I cannot imagine. Just about the only *likeable* character is the Colonel, and he's an asshole.

I know it's supposed to show how senseless war is, but the problem is that war *isn't* senseless, there are very strong reasons why men engage in it. They may not be *good* reasons but I really doubt that most soldiers feel the way that the characters are portrayed to feel.

From the IMDB reviews: "my father in law, who is Catholic, and who fought with the Marines at Guadacanal, hated this movie, and said "it wasn't like that at all."" And from all the other accounts I've read of WW2, I would tend to think it really wasn't like that.
Lacadaemon II
11-02-2005, 08:48
A bridge too far is brilliant but my favourite is either Apocalypse Now or Paths of Clory.

Ooh, I forgot paths of glory. That's an excellent movie, and quite anti-war.
Helioterra
11-02-2005, 08:49
*lol*

And I'd say let's throw Das Boot in there as well, but I am not sure if anyone watched that movie.

;)
Huh? That's a classic!
Helioterra
11-02-2005, 08:52
Daistallia 2104
Have you seen Tuntematon sotilas (1955, The Unknown soldier)
Quite many Finns find it better than Talvisota.
Timbotania
11-02-2005, 09:01
Johnny Got His Gun
Dr.Strangelove

The first one is the most intense war-movie I've ever seen and the 2nd one is the meanest.
CanuckHeaven
11-02-2005, 09:02
Well? (The poll can't possibly get them all ;)))
Toss up....Bridge on the River Kwai or The Great Escape
Deltaepsilon
11-02-2005, 09:07
Apocalypse Now and Dr. Strangelove.
Nation of Fortune
11-02-2005, 09:15
Full Metal Jacket hands down, nothing beats it. I mean how many movies have I watched every year since I was six. and of those how many of them scream about "slimey little communist shit twinkle toed cocksuckers" ?
Troon
11-02-2005, 09:21
Ok, let me point out that I really hated "The Thin Red Line"... I know people like it, but why, I cannot imagine. Just about the only *likeable* character is the Colonel, and he's an asshole.

I know it's supposed to show how senseless war is, but the problem is that war *isn't* senseless, there are very strong reasons why men engage in it. They may not be *good* reasons but I really doubt that most soldiers feel the way that the characters are portrayed to feel.

From the IMDB reviews: "my father in law, who is Catholic, and who fought with the Marines at Guadacanal, hated this movie, and said "it wasn't like that at all."" And from all the other accounts I've read of WW2, I would tend to think it really wasn't like that.

I agree with you. A total waste of 2 or 3 hours of my time, that movie. It was just..."huh?"

A ton of crappy poetry all over the place, guys refusing to surrender by just standing there until they were shot, and almost nothing, that I could see, actually happened.

In fact, the only good thing about the whole thing was that my Dad bought the DVD from eBay, then re-sold it for a profit. :-)
The Supreme Rabbit
11-02-2005, 09:28
Talvisota ja Tuntematon Sotilas.
Winter War and Unknown Soldier.
Daistallia 2104
11-02-2005, 09:34
Talvisota ja Tuntematon Sotilas.
Winter War and Unknown Soldier.

I mentioned it above. I saw it in Finnish with Japanese subtitles, and I still enjoyed it. :) (Same thing with Stalingrad, except that was Russian and German).

And nobody's mentioned The Longest Day yet, have they?
Harlesburg
11-02-2005, 09:44
Schindler's List
Saving Private Ryan
Gettysburg
We Were Soldiers
Thank you for saying Gettysburg-Go Pickett
When Trumpets fade

Blue Moon?or something similar
(A movie with Christen Slater or Ethan Hawke -Always get the 2 mixed up :p
About Huertgen Forrest and the Div moves out without telling them at the forward post and so get trapped behined german lines carrying a dead comrade.They made a pact with germans who wanted to surrender and an American fool goes home for saving them)

-(Dont know name involves an ecentric british scientist who the highish command dont like so send him on a death mission with a bunch of last chancers to destroy German fuel-they dont intend for him to succed but he almost does until the brits attack the dump and kill the guy.)

Stalingrad

Enemy at the Gates 50/50

The Eagle has landed-Michael Caine?
-Similarly named movie with Clint Eastwood

From Here to Eternity-i might have seen and enjoyed this

Go Tell The Spartans-Good =Pudenda-If youve seen it you know what im talking about :p

Many more but youll fall asleep and as you can see i cant remember any of the names so :(
Harlesburg
11-02-2005, 09:47
And nobody's mentioned The Longest Day yet, have they?
Good
In relation to your sig its missing the best the Panzer Smiley greatest of them all.
Pepe Dominguez
11-02-2005, 09:51
Who put Sand Pebbles on there? It's like 30 hours long, with one action scene. ;) I voted for the Mel Gibson movie, since that was my dad's unit..
Daistallia 2104
11-02-2005, 10:07
Daistallia 2104
Have you seen Tuntematon sotilas (1955, The Unknown soldier)
Quite many Finns find it better than Talvisota.

No. It's hard to find any non-US foreign movies here. :(
Helioterra
11-02-2005, 10:12
No. It's hard to find any non-US foreign movies here. :(
They released in on DVD on December (Talvisota too, and also a double DVD with both films) with English subtitles.
Saiyevn
11-02-2005, 10:29
There's no mention of Saving Private Ryan and Apocalypse Now, they were both excellent war movies, though maybe not the best.
The Stalinist Union
11-02-2005, 11:20
Enemy at the Gates (Glorifies the great Soviet victory over the fascist invaders at Stalingrad), Apocalypse Now, and Full Metal Jacket.
Saiyevn
11-02-2005, 11:41
Enemy at the Gates (Glorifies the great Soviet victory over the fascist invaders at Stalingrad), Apocalypse Now, and Full Metal Jacket.

Ah yes, Enemy at the Gates, another classic recent WWII movie. Another movie that's related to WWII(though not a war movie) is the Holocaust pic Schindler's List.
Thrashia
11-02-2005, 12:05
So far, I've seen some very good movies mentioned...but, you knew it would come, some of you are thinking in terms of WWI to present type war movies. I will enlighten you all with this list of medieval ones...

Lord of the Rings (Its a big ass war)
Last Samurai (Has a war, if not like others)
The Seven Samurai (old, but very good)
Gettysburg(very good)
Gods and Generals(also very good)
Excalibur (some bad acting, but not bad if you can stomach the speech used)

And the best by far (to me)
Ran by Akira Kurosawa
Saiyevn
11-02-2005, 12:16
Lord of the Rings? Hah hah, I suppose it counts a sort of war-movie but since its not real it can't be called such. Of the other ones you mentioned, Gettysburg is probably the only that comes to the modern day war movies in character, and even so I remember that it was an extremely tedious four-hour long one.

Last Samurai, Excalibur, Seven Samurai really aren't covering any major war that happened throughout history. Don't know about Gods and Generals and Ran though, but I think most war movies usually originate from the late 19th century onwards.

The sole exception would be War and Peace, which was an excellent description of what was is like for the common soldier, which is also a theme that characterizes almost all war movies.
Daistallia 2104
11-02-2005, 12:23
There's no mention of Saving Private Ryan and Apocalypse Now, they were both excellent war movies, though maybe not the best.

Uhmmm, both have been mentioned, the later serveral times...
The State of It
11-02-2005, 12:32
Saving Private Ryan
Band of Brothers
Where Eagles Dare
Guns of Navarone
The Dirty Dozen (If nobody has said this one yet, I'm surprised.)
The Cross of Iron
Stalingrad
Kelly's Heroes
Force 10 from Naverone
The Longest Day
Enemy At The Gates
A Bridge too Far
Apocalypse Now
Platoon
Full Metal Jacket
The Great Escape
The Big Red One
Paths of Glory
The Bridge At Remagen
The Thin Red Line
Welcome to Sarajevo
Operation Daybreak
Black Hawk Down
Three Kings
Behind Enemy Lines
A Midnight Clear
Stalag 17
Colditz
King Rat
Bridge Over The River Kwai
Empire Of The Sun
Schlinder's List
The Pianist
No Man's Land
Charlotte Gray
Dambusters
633 Squadron