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Why can I not sleep? I desperately want to sleep, I am sure of that, but I just cannot. In fact, even reading drab material from my Philosophy of Statistics class doesn't even help. Good God, is the insomnia striking again?!?!?!?!

Why can I not sleep? I desperately want to sleep, I am sure of that, but I just cannot. In fact, even reading drab material from my Philosophy of Statistics class doesn't even help. Good God, is the insomnia striking again?!?!?!?!
go get drunk.
or, alternatively, lie down in a bed with the lights out.
better still, bash you head against the wall.

get some melatonin :)

Why can I not sleep? I desperately want to sleep, I am sure of that, but I just cannot. In fact, even reading drab material from my Philosophy of Statistics class doesn't even help. Good God, is the insomnia striking again?!?!?!?!
No idea.
I've had sleep problems for years, and never found a useful solution.

learn how to properly do the yoga asana - The dead body pose


that puts me to sleep before I can finish the pose off sometimes

also try sleepy time tea - that works pretty good

or get some valerian

okay can yout ell that I love to sleep?

I'm thinking some booze sounds nice...

Hmm, lesse...
I've tried melatonin, and although it put me to sleep, I'd wake up about half an hour later.
I tried something else, and it didn't work. I forgot what it's called.

I tried one thing that did work, but it had the side effect of making me dizzy the next day, so I only used it when it was necessary to sleep. However, I couldn't get my hands on any more after one night I figured out it lowered my blood pressure and accidentally tried to commit suicide with them. I can't get my hands on anything stronger that would work for now, so I'm stuck.

have you tried tylenol PM? I havent but I hear good things

also you might wanna try the dead body pose I suggested... seriously

and another good thing is weed! smokin the chronic makes me so sleepy! reading usually helps me too but apparently not for teh thread starter

Try listening to some enya, or read the bible. Those normally work.

I have the same problems...

*cry*

I have to read myself to sleep.

I've dealt with these issues before and have performed many self studies as well as research on sleeping problems. I've had sleeping issues for about 8 years now and I've descovered that when I developed a pre bed time routine that it helped me fall asleep much easier which includes a "bedtime playlist" or CD of music I find relaxing, cooling my room down and using lots of blankets and other things along the same lines. Also if you awake feeling unrested you might try to sleep for different lengths of time since everyone is different and the old wise tale about you need 8 hrs of sleep is BS. I do better w/ 4-6 hrs of sleep than I do w/ 7-12 for example. I think that it really just depends on the person individually but all of the above help. Being in college alcohol is always worth a try but that doesnt even work for everyone. Benedryl works ok if you havent taken it before otherwise the next I'd try would be Tylenol Sinus, and then Tylenol PM. Plus if none of that works after a while a new pillow, matress or a visit to a DR. which are more expensive options but can be well worth it cause sleep no matter how little or how much your body needs is most definatly needed.
Good Luck hope I could help and all goes well,
-JB
PS Any other questions from anyone please feel free to ask me and I'll help the best I can. Just email me at:
spudstudtu880590@yahoo.com

I'm thinking some booze sounds nice...
That's what I do though sometimes it leads me to drunking posting on NS when I still can not sleep after a few cold ones. I think I have a sleeping problem.

Why can I not sleep? I desperately want to sleep, I am sure of that, but I just cannot. In fact, even reading drab material from my Philosophy of Statistics class doesn't even help. Good God, is the insomnia striking again?!?!?!?!


Chew some tobacco. Might I suggest Skoal or Redman

Chew some tobacco. Might I suggest Skoal or Redman

O_o.

i don't feel like giving meself mouth cancer, thank ye very much.

So youre saying you can sleep sometimes, but cant others. That makes u a narcoleptic insomniac :eek:

Excercise! It helps alot. Especially in the evenings. Tire yourself out, so that at night it would be easier to sleep.

Excercise! It helps alot. Especially in the evenings. Tire yourself out, so that at night it would be easier to sleep.
gasp

You said the...E-word!

There is no time for the activity-that-must-not-be-named! There are still Final Fantasies to beat, levels to gain, gil to make, items to synthesize, books to read, books to write, lectures to give, lectures to listen to, anime to watch, and much more! There is no time for this ....you-know-what!

Like Ethan from Ctrl_alt+del says...

If my Eyes aren't bleeding, I'm not ready to stop playing videogames!

go to fight club :D

u could fornicate cuase your usually tired after that

O_o.

i don't feel like giving meself mouth cancer, thank ye very much.


The suggestion was to the one with the sleeping problem... And it's a one-time only suggestion, it WILL help him relax enough to sleep, a first time nicotine buzz is powerful, especially if from smokeless tobacco (which can have 10-14 times the nicotine delivery of a cigarette)

I'm thinking some booze sounds nice...
Booze is NOT the answer.....IMHO.

Is your conscience clear? Are you dreading or fearing something?

I tend to fall asleep thinking about all that I have to be grateful for.

Why can I not sleep? I desperately want to sleep, I am sure of that, but I just cannot. In fact, even reading drab material from my Philosophy of Statistics class doesn't even help. Good God, is the insomnia striking again?!?!?!?!
You know what you need to do. ;)

In fact, even reading drab material from my Philosophy of Statistics class doesn't even help.


That stuff is so easy, it should have put you to sleep right away.

I had difficulty falling asleep for several years, sometimes taking an hour or more to fall asleep...then it got even more difficult last winter. I went an entire night without sleep once, and sometimes had to sleep at my girlfriend's just to keep that from happening. It turns out my biggest problem was that I got frustrated at not being able to fall asleep...the longer I went without sleeping, the more upset I got. That said, the more upset I got, the less likely I was to fall asleep...it was a vicious cycle. Once I got past that, I stopped having difficulty falling asleep...that and now that I take Zoloft, it helps calm the shakes. I hardly have any trouble falling asleep, and my fiancee's snoring doesn't bother me half the time either...

Certain yoga poses, as mentioned before, will actually help a lot.
If you are unwilling, just turn on the television.
It works for me every time.

I think getting really, really tired is a good way to fall asleep since your body is so fatigued and exhausted that sleep comes naturally. There's been a well-documented disease of Sleep Apoenia, which really causes havoc to people's sleeping habits. I have it sometimes too, and I think that's what causes people to snore.

Good God, is the insomnia striking again?!?!?!?!
Sounds like it. If it is too much of a problem, you should probably see a psychiatrist about it. Though it really depends on who you go to on whether he or she will be able to help, since different psychiatrists have different reliances on pharmacology. From my personal experience, there is nothing one can do, and no-one want sto give my sleeping pills for fear of addiction. But, who knows, perhaps you're different.

In fact, even reading drab material from my Philosophy of Statistics class doesn't even help.


That stuff is so easy, it should have put you to sleep right away.
I'm a professional statistician (I've even got degrees and stuff in it) and I'm wholly unaware that there is such a thing as a philosophy of statistics. WTF? :confused:

Booze+wank.



Just don't over do the first, or else the second can become problematic.

u could fornicate cuase your usually tired after that
Or he could just try plain copulation...

I'm one of those folks who can sleep 12 hour or 5 hours. :)
None of this 7-8 hour stuff for me.

Booze+wank.

Just don't over do the first, or else the second can become problematic.
like mixing vodka and beer mate? :p

like mixing vodka and beer mate? :p
Shades of American Pie. Thanks for that mental image - that'll sure help me sleep tonight. :mad:

like mixing vodka and beer mate? :p

I was drinking both on wednesday. I gave up on the beer quick enough to not get the drink mixers spew. The beach is fun at 4.30 in the morning.

Why can I not sleep? I desperately want to sleep, I am sure of that, but I just cannot. In fact, even reading drab material from my Philosophy of Statistics class doesn't even help. Good God, is the insomnia striking again?!?!?!?!

I'm not surprised...it's 5 to 3 in the afternoon!

Well, I eventually did get to sleep, but I had to go through various boring things to do so...Namely creating my resume and a cover letter...

No idea.
I've had sleep problems for years, and never found a useful solution.
:D Ah that explains some of the things I hear from you Neo. :D
LOL: just teasing. I can relate right now I am getting about 8-10 hours every 2-3 days. Nothing that works for some people will work for everyone else. If the old standby's don't work (warm drink-noncarbonated, laying in a dark room forcing yourself to empty you mind of all thought-counting sheep is counterproductive....) try getting a massage (mother's, girlfriends, 2am girls are good for this) but make sure it is not a massage with a happy ending (particulairly if it your mother---EWWWEWWW). Some people actually can use Caffeine to relax (I used to be one). Hot bath can put you to sleep (only try if you can sleep in place without slipping under the water also spend the 5-10 bucks for a "bath pillow" keeps you from getting a wickedly nasty kink in the neck. For some call a senior friend/family member and get them to pull a grandpa Simpson. There are hundreds more but the only way to tell if one will work is to try them and experiment with others. You could always check with your doctor for signs of depression. Insomnia is a MAJOR sign of depression.

You could always check with your doctor for signs of depression. Insomnia is a MAJOR sign of depression.
Depends. Hypersomnia, sleeping more than the normal amount, is also a major sign of depression. Affective flattening and avolition were two large symptoms for me, and I slept much more than normal. Though occasionally I suffered from insomnia, but the avolition was quite somniferous.

One solution for helping insomnia is only using the bed for sleeping, and nothing else like reading or watching TV. This lets your mind associate the bed primarily with sleep. Sleep apnoea, nightmares, and allergies can also prohibit sleep. I don't really know, as my only solution to insomnia has been that eventually my body just says "Fuck you" and I pretty much just collapse from exhaustion. This lasts for a week or two, and then after I've had that short period of hypersomnia, I go back to my insomnia for quite a while.

However, orgasm can actually be a great soporific from what I've heard, preferably through copulation, but I believe that autoerotism can also help.

Why can I not sleep? I desperately want to sleep, I am sure of that, but I just cannot. In fact, even reading drab material from my Philosophy of Statistics class doesn't even help. Good God, is the insomnia striking again?!?!?!?!


drink chamomile tea with a little sugar/honey..it'll knock ya right out :)

drink chamomile tea with a little sugar/honey..it'll knock ya right out :)
No, at least not for me. It helps a little, but not much.

No, at least not for me. It helps a little, but not much.


well, for a person that really wants to sleep, it likely will...the stronger alternative would be valerian...or as someone else suggested, weed...conversely, if you can get something prescribed, that would be good, I've found when I had to take them for pain Tynenol 3's with codene, or just plain codene worked quite well...

well, for a person that really wants to sleep, it likely will...the stronger alternative would be valerian...or as someone else suggested, weed...conversely, if you can get something prescribed, that would be good, I've found when I had to take them for pain Tynenol 3's with codene, or just plain codene worked quite well...
When I had my wisdom teeth out the Vicoden knocked me right down...so did the Valium I took before the surgery, but the stuff they injected into my hand to knock me out at the Oral surgeons, whew, that was crazy.

I was sitting down in the chair, and there was a tray with four needles on it. The nurse put on IV into my hand, and started away with the needles. I watched needle one, needle two and needle three go in just fine, then she put in needle four, and by the time the plunger was halfway down, I was out.

When I had my wisdom teeth out the Vicoden knocked me right down...so did the Valium I took before the surgery, but the stuff they injected into my hand to knock me out at the Oral surgeons, whew, that was crazy.
The thing is, anaethesiology is one of the most delicate of all sciences. When using something like that, you've got to be very careful. And does pot actually make you tired? I don't know, since I've only used it really late at night.

The thing is, anaethesiology is one of the most delicate of all sciences. When using something like that, you've got to be very careful. And does pot actually make you tired? I don't know, since I've only used it really late at night.
I woulndn't know about the pot, as I've never tried it.

And the paperwork they made me go through to be allowed to get knocked out was incredible...

Why can I not sleep? I desperately want to sleep, I am sure of that, but I just cannot. In fact, even reading drab material from my Philosophy of Statistics class doesn't even help. Good God, is the insomnia striking again?!?!?!?!
Quit using cocaine.

Quit using cocaine.
But it's sooooooo good!

Quit using cocaine.
Meth is much more of an insomnia-inducing drug than coke.

have you tried tylenol PM? I havent but I hear good things

also you might wanna try the dead body pose I suggested... seriously

and another good thing is weed! smokin the chronic makes me so sleepy! reading usually helps me too but apparently not for teh thread starter
Tylenol PM contains Acetomenaphen. It's toxic to the liver and kidneys. Benadryl contains the sleep producing ingredient of Tylenol PM and no other active ingredients. Take two benadryl.

Meth is much more of an insomnia-inducing drug than coke.
I never played with speed. I had really good connections for coke though, and it can definately keep you up all night. Also make you a tidy little profit if you're inclined to sell it.

Nothing short of two Ambien tends to knock me out, except pot. I don't dare have that in my house, because I get housing assistance. They do inspections and if I'm ever caught with anything illegal, even off property, my ass is out of here.

Tylenol PM contains Acetomenaphen. It's toxic to the liver and kidneys. Benadryl contains the sleep producing ingredient of Tylenol PM and no other active ingredients. Take two benadryl.
Very insightful! The acive ingredient in Tylenol is acetaminophen. Just as Advil is ibuprofen. Benadryl is diphenhydramine, which also happens to be the active ingredient added into Tylenol PM to facilitate sleep.

And for me, diphenhydramine didn't work too well, since it made me very groggy in the morning.

some types of pot make you sleepy and others dont. Thers no way to tell until you smoke it me thinks.

Yes Valerian works VERY well. SO well in fact that they tell you to use caution so that you dont become addicted. They took it out of the sleepytime tea because I think people were abusing it.

some types of pot make you sleepy and others dont. Thers no way to tell until you smoke it me thinks.
So is it caused by impurities, or what?

So is it caused by impurities, or what?
No, it's caused by how long the buds are allowed to stay on the plant. If harvested early, you get an up high, if harvested late you get a sleepy stone. It has to do with the proportions of canabinoids (sp?) in the weed. More of the sleepy ones develop later in the bud's maturation.

Tylenol PM contains Acetomenaphen. It's toxic to the liver and kidneys. Benadryl contains the sleep producing ingredient of Tylenol PM and no other active ingredients. Take two benadryl.

oh ok... and benadryl isnt really all that bad for you either is it?

No, it's caused by how long the buds are allowed to stay on the plant. If harvested early, you get an up high, if harvested late you get a sleepy stone. It has to do with the proportions of canabinoids (sp?) in the weed. More of the sleepy ones develop later in the bud's maturation.
The amount of THC actually...

No, it's caused by how long the buds are allowed to stay on the plant. If harvested early, you get an up high, if harvested late you get a sleepy stone. It has to do with the proportions of canabinoids (sp?) in the weed. More of the sleepy ones develop later in the bud's maturation.

oh I did not know that.

i remembered someone telling me once that dark green buds made you sleepy but I have some super delicious light green that knocks me the fuck out.

Ah, discussions of pot. You enjoy it, 'cause I'm not going to use any.

No, it's caused by how long the buds are allowed to stay on the plant. If harvested early, you get an up high, if harvested late you get a sleepy stone. It has to do with the proportions of canabinoids (sp?) in the weed. More of the sleepy ones develop later in the bud's maturation.
Cannabinoids.

The amount of THC actually...
Ahh, is it perhaps that the longer the bud is allowed to mature, the more THC is produced?

oh ok... and benadryl isnt really all that bad for you either is it?
Diphenhydramine is an antihistamine, and it does not have any long-term deleterious effects. Neither does acetaminophen in the proper doses.

...

Cutting used to help me deal with insomnia. But I've made myself stop that.

So, to be rather more helpeful... uhh... staying up for 48 hours or so eventually gets rid of insomnia for me. Watching the same movie sixteen or seventeen times helps too. Repetitive activities are handy...

...

I need more caffeine.

Ah, discussions of pot. You enjoy it, 'cause I'm not going to use any.
Eh, you're loss. As long as it is used in moderation, it actually isn't bad for you. Especially if you cook it into food or make tea out of it, which removes the carcinogenic properties.

Ahh, is it perhaps that the longer the bud is allowed to mature, the more THC is produced?

Yep. I may not use the stuff, but by God, if I'm going to know everything, I'm going to have to know it works!

oh ok... and benadryl isnt really all that bad for you either is it?
Nope. You'd have a really hard time trying to OD on it. It has few side effects.

Warm Milk.

With the advent of the Microwave, it's surprisingly easy to make! I find it works; and I remember reading about a study explaining that the warm milk releases sleepy-hormones, so I actually have some medical professionals backing me up on this one! Anyway, that's my recommendation. Soft, slow music and an extra warm blanket is also good thing to add to the mix.

Breathe Deep, Seek Peace, God Bless,
~K.T.


P.S.: If you are worried about getting too much fat through the milk or something, there's always the option of mixing milk and warm water. On the flip side; if you find milk a bit drab, you can add a little bit of honey. Both options lessen the effects a little bit, though.

You could try KavaKava, a polynesian plant that contains in it's roots Kavalactones, chemicals that affect the brain like benzodiazepenes, although much weaker.

You could try KavaKava, a polynesian plant that contains in it's roots Kavalactones, chemicals that affect the brain like benzodiazepenes, although much weaker.
Yeah, I've heard good things about Kava-Kava, although I've never tried it myself.

Yeah, I've heard good things about Kava-Kava, although I've never tried it myself.
Actually it makes me nauseous if I take it in dosages high enough to work. If you have a strong stomach go ahead and try.

You could try KavaKava, a polynesian plant that contains in it's roots Kavalactones, chemicals that affect the brain like benzodiazepenes, although much weaker.
Where could I get something like that?

anyone suggest ambien yet?

Hold your breath!! Hold your Breath!! :)

Play Hold your breath game. :)

you can get kava kava at any health food store - it comes in a liquid tincture

KAva Kava never made me sleep though... I'd still go for Valerian as long as you dont abuse it, You'll be kuhl

Where could I get something like that?
In the USA health food and vitamin shops sell it. Internet sites do too.

you can get kava kava at any health food store - it comes in a liquid tincture

KAva Kava never made me sleep though... I'd still go for Valerian as long as you dont abuse it, You'll be kuhl
The tinctures and pills don't contain enough Kava Kava. You'd have to take a whole bottle of Kava Kava capsules to get any real effect. The Polynesians use whole ground roots cooked with water. Each capsule only holds about a gram of dried root.

anyone suggest ambien yet?

Yep. Works wonders, but it's habit forming and you have to have a Rx.

The tinctures and pills don't contain enough Kava Kava. You'd have to take a whole bottle of Kava Kava capsules to get any real effect. The Polynesians use whole ground roots cooked with water. Each capsule only holds about a gram of dried root.

oh no wonder it never put me to sleep. I was under teh impression that the tincture was the best way to take it. That it was stronger and more effective because it was kept "alive" in the fridge. But you seem to actually know what you are talking about where as I just go off of memories which I am not sure wher i got them.

oh no wonder it never put me to sleep. I was under teh impression that the tincture was the best way to take it. That it was stronger and more effective because it was kept "alive" in the fridge. But you seem to actually know what you are talking about where as I just go off of memories which I am not sure wher i got them.
Drugs, legal and illegal, were once both a hobby and a business for me.

Drugs, legal and illegal, were once both a hobby and a business for me.


I grew pot and mushrooms but always kept it for personal use

I did get busted for growing mushrooms though and was in county jail in a small corrupt town called Warsaw, Indiana for 2 weeks! I was just passing thru the town moving somewhere east, and had stopped at a gas station where a fight broke out. Like a dumbass I stayed to watch and when the cops got there they saw my long hair and immediatly assumed I was big trouble (so they illegally searched my car and found my grow equipment and many mason jars full of mycelium - they gave some bullshit story about how a bag of marijuana fell on teh ground when I opened my wallet to show them my liscense). I guess just a week before there was a issue at a grateful dead concert and a bunch of the dead heads rushed a gate, so they naturally assumed I must ahve been an evil hippie.

I was on the front page of their town newspaper!

I grew pot and mushrooms but always kept it for personal use

I did get busted for growing mushrooms though and was in county jail in a small corrupt town called Warsaw, Indiana for 2 weeks! I was just passing thru the town moving somewhere east, and had stopped at a gas station where a fight broke out. Like a dumbass I stayed to watch and when the cops got there they saw my long hair and immediatly assumed I was big trouble (so they illegally searched my car and found my grow equipment and many mason jars full of mycelium - they gave some bullshit story about how a bag of marijuana fell on teh ground when I opened my wallet to show them my liscense). I guess just a week before there was a issue at a grateful dead concert and a bunch of the dead heads rushed a gate, so they naturally assumed I must ahve been an evil hippie.

I was on the front page of their town newspaper!
That sucks. At least it wasn't a few ounces of coke.

Booze+wank.



Just don't over do the first, or else the second can become problematic.


heh heh. works for me, but yeah, drugs can really interfere with getting it up. :(

That sucks. At least it wasn't a few ounces of coke.

big time!

and nope it was 37 mason jars of mycelium which produces about an 1/8 of an ounce of mushrooms per jar.

I did get busted for growing mushrooms though and was in county jail in a small corrupt town called Warsaw, Indiana for 2 weeks! I was just passing thru the town moving somewhere east, and had stopped at a gas station where a fight broke out. Like a dumbass I stayed to watch and when the cops got there they saw my long hair and immediatly assumed I was big trouble (so they illegally searched my car and found my grow equipment and many mason jars full of mycelium - they gave some bullshit story about how a bag of marijuana fell on teh ground when I opened my wallet to show them my liscense). I guess just a week before there was a issue at a grateful dead concert and a bunch of the dead heads rushed a gate, so they naturally assumed I must ahve been an evil hippie.
Yes, but you actually can't get busted for growing them. You got in trouble for having them in the administerable form, which is different than just growing.

Yes, but you actually can't get busted for growing them. You got in trouble for having them in the administerable form, which is different than just growing.

well I know that psilocybin is contained within the mycelium, but I wouldn't call it an administerable form.

yeah I know its legal to sell the spore prints. I got mine mail order from a place in Oregon.

Why can I not sleep? I desperately want to sleep, I am sure of that, but I just cannot. In fact, even reading drab material from my Philosophy of Statistics class doesn't even help. Good God, is the insomnia striking again?!?!?!?!

Cure for insomnia=The Blair Witch Project

Yep. Works wonders, but it's habit forming and you have to have a Rx.


Huh? its not addictive at all, thats why its used so much. The side effects I have read about ambein is that it gives you a terrible aftertaste the next morning, will only work for about 2 weeks and if taken 2 weeks straight can cause intense insominia for a couple nights when you are done takin it...

Huh? its not addictive at all, thats why its used so much. The side effects I have read about ambein is that it gives you a terrible aftertaste the next morning, will only work for about 2 weeks and if taken 2 weeks straight can cause intense insominia for a couple nights when you are done takin it...
Ambien does cause dependence.
They did a study recently.

EDIT:
I'm looking for the link. I'll post it once I find it.

Ah, nevermind.
I was wrong, it's only psychologically addictive.

Ah, nevermind.
I was wrong, it's only psychologically addictive.

My doctor told me if I used it too often I wouldn't be able to sleep without it. Which is a moot point, since I can't sleep without it anyway.