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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050210/ap_on_hi_te/tracking_students

Basically, school gets paid to allow company to install recievers/ tracking system in school and requires students to wear transmitters on campus, punishing those who refuse. Needless to say, some parents are pissed.

While the idea is sound, I think the system is inherently dangerous. From the sounds of it, the school is only doing this for the money. While argueing "safety" someone could hack into the system and find out the location of any student they wanted. Just ripe for a kidnapping. I also noticed that the school board didn't consult w/ the parents before doing this and that the superintendant "thinks ID badges will improve things, he says, then badges there will be."

The next step will be mandatory lowjacking outside of school and at birth.

If they can give them electric shocks whenever they reach for, say, a bag of chips instead of an apple, they have my full support.

meh, it's innevitable. resistance is futile. I can't wait until they can reprogram our brain to be completely mindless robots.

meh, it's innevitable. resistance is futile. I can't wait until they can reprogram our brain to be completely mindless robots.
Haven't you been watching tv? Daily doses of American Idol, Charles and Camilla, Michael Jackson trial. I wouldn't call it reprogramming, but certainly produces completely mindless robots.

I thought california was full of liberals who were supposed to protect privacy rights? If I had to guess it's just some sort of RFID system

I thought california was full of liberals who were supposed to protect privacy rights? If I had to guess it's just some sort of RFID system


thats what they want you to think

Haven't you been watching tv? Daily doses of American Idol, Charles and Camilla, Michael Jackson trial. I wouldn't call it reprogramming, but certainly produces completely mindless robots.

true but we are merely in teh testing phase right now. gotta figure out soem of the logistics and do some R&D before implementation.

I'd have to say that I'd never where something such as that for 2 reasons.
1. It looks like it weighs a ton, not to mention stupid
2. I don't want to know what someone with the wrong intentions could use the information for.

I'd rather leave the county or take the punishment than let those scumbags tag me like an animal. :gundge:

The school system is trying to reprogram people into weakminded idiots anyways so this confirms my suspicions of them being behind it all

bah, it's about time they lojacked non-taxpayers, I want to know what those long hairs are up too.

If you don't pay ordinary income or capital gains tax, then it should be the lojack for you. Crime would dissappear virtually overnight.

Big Brother is watching you.

Right now there's a newscast on (local) about a guy who cussed a judge and got his bond increased by 100,000 bucks. And everybody seems to think that's nifty. That's just nuts.

If they can give them electric shocks whenever they reach for, say, a bag of chips instead of an apple, they have my full support.
:rolleyes:
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I'll be watching out for your suede denim secret police.

I thought california was full of liberals who were supposed to protect privacy rights? If I had to guess it's just some sort of RFID system

Nope. Full of all kinds of people. Including lots of "liberals" who are, in reality, highly authoritarian. See our comrade above for example.

I bet you that this is the first steps towards a national or at least school-wide barcoding system. First the library books and supermarket foods (innocent enough), cattle (i mean students) then it will be the whole US. I usually don't support the ACLU but I'm behind 'em 100% on fighting this.

As a high school student I must say...

Good f***ing luck getting students to wear that.

Kids at my school wouldn't even wear a small plastic picture ID and half the school skipped nearly a week before the school allowed students to conceal them.

As a high school student I must say...

Good f***ing luck getting students to wear that.

Kids at my school wouldn't even wear a small plastic picture ID and half the school skipped nearly a week before the school allowed students to conceal them.


That's why it should be implanted directly into the body.

That's why it should be implanted directly into the body.

Like into the brain...

Like into the brain...

No, silly, the control circuits go into the brain. The lo-jack can go anywhere.

F**K THE SYSTEM, REBEL AT ALL COSTS :sniper:

As a high school student I must say...

Good f***ing luck getting students to wear that.

Kids at my school wouldn't even wear a small plastic picture ID and half the school skipped nearly a week before the school allowed students to conceal them.

Not that i agree with this idea of transmitters, but if i was in charge of the school, i would have said "fine, flunk all your classes, see if i care. If you wanna go to school, you will wear the transmitters" The kids would have folded REAL quick. 5 cent IDs are one thing, transmitters cost a lot of money. And there is no way a school is gonna invest lots of money in something, just to let some kids say "no thanks."

"You know what it comes down to? I believe junior high students want to be stylish. This is not stylish," he said.

Does the superintendent really think this is why the parents got the ACLU involved? Because they fear for their children's sense of fashion?

Not that i agree with this idea of transmitters, but if i was in charge of the school, i would have said "fine, flunk all your classes, see if i care. If you wanna go to school, you will wear the transmitters" The kids would have folded REAL quick. 5 cent IDs are one thing, transmitters cost a lot of money. And there is no way a school is gonna invest lots of money in something, just to let some kids say "no thanks."

Well, the article says the school didn't pay for it, the company did. This is just plain sick and wrong. If I was a parent, then I'd tell my kid not to wear it and I'd go to detention for him/her. It's a sick world that treats people like their nothing. I'd go to the supreme court with the UCLA to bankrupt the school/city for their bargain with the devil. :D

That's why it should be implanted directly into the body.
Given that it's probably some sort of RFID technology, if it was deep enough or surrounded by aluminum foil it wouldn't work.



It is RFID tech This latest adaptation of radio frequency ID technology was developed by InCom Corp., a local company co-founded by the parent of a former Brittan student, and some parents are suspicious about the financial relationship between the school and the company. InCom plans to promote it at a national convention of school administrators next month.

This subject has already been slashdotted to death.

Given that it's probably some sort of RFID technology, if it was deep enough or surrounded by aluminum foil it wouldn't work.

There's the way to get kids to wear it! Cover it with aluminum foil and act like a rapper. That would really make the super po'd

Back in my high school days we all had to wear IDs with our name, mug shot, barcode and identification number (which made it easy to identify everyone’s class level so students could target the younger kids for violence.) These IDs had to be worn on the outside of all clothing, at a certain distance below your neck. You had to wear specific lanyards that the school provided for you to. (They were breakaway so you couldn’t strangle other students with them.) What got me mad was that they charged $5 if you forgot your ID that day. I wonder how much they would charge students for lost or forgotten IDs if they have radio transmitters in them.

Also, we didnt use our names for attendence, names were replaced with our ID numbers. These IDs in question dont sound that dehumanizing to me.

Also, it does not cost that school anything for those transmitting IDs; they are being paid money to use them.

Time for someone to sue that school, real quick. I remember when up here a local school started hiring rent-a-cops for their security. If ANY incident happened the rent-a-cop would haul off the kid in handcuffs. Stealing, arguing, not having a freaking Bathroom pass would get you thrown to the ground and cuffed.

Yeah, that didn't last long. People sued, the school lost face, tons of money, etc. They kept the rent-a-cops though, just not those handcuffs. Personally, I'm not a violent person by nature, but if some not-cop tries to cuff me for talking out of turn in class I'd slug him and cuff him to the chair. These are students, not common criminals in lockdown!

Everytime i hear stories like this i wonder how pupils in the US are treated like cattle. Zero-tolerance, low jacking, mandatory medication for those who are considered disruptive, whathaveyou. Yes, these are extremes, but nonetheless they happen. If the same policies were to be enforced on adults the outcry would be gigantic, but kids seem to be second-class citizens. What is it with not teaching children responsibilty step-by-step, but keeping them in a seperate world and throw them into the real one once they leave school?

Back in my high school days we all had to wear IDs with our name, mug shot, barcode and identification number (which made it easy to identify everyone’s class level so students could target the younger kids for violence.) These IDs had to be worn on the outside of all clothing, at a certain distance below your neck. You had to wear specific lanyards that the school provided for you to. (They were breakaway so you couldn’t strangle other students with them.) What got me mad was that they charged $5 if you forgot your ID that day. I wonder how much they would charge students for lost or forgotten IDs if they have radio transmitters in them.

Also, we didnt use our names for attendence, names were replaced with our ID numbers. These IDs in question dont sound that dehumanizing to me.

Also, it does not cost that school anything for those transmitting IDs; they are being paid money to use them.

Of course it is dehumanising - it reduces one's basic autonomy.

I thought california was full of liberals who were supposed to protect privacy rights? If I had to guess it's just some sort of RFID system
Where are the apocalyptic Uber-Fundies to say that this is the "mark of the beast" fortold in revalations?

I thought california was full of liberals who were supposed to protect privacy rights? If I had to guess it's just some sort of RFID system

It's a rural town. They tend to be more conservative.

If they tried it on my kid, oh man. I am not a fan of home schooling but I would do it in that case.

Probably their next excuse. "Don't you care about your children? We can track them if they were abducted!!" Think of the children!

Big Brother is watching you.

Right now there's a newscast on (local) about a guy who cussed a judge and got his bond increased by 100,000 bucks. And everybody seems to think that's nifty. That's just nuts.

And it is appropriate to curse at a judge you are appearing before because.....?

I'm sorry -- if the defendant was foolish enough to do so, I'm not going to shed any tears.

Well, the article says the school didn't pay for it, the company did. This is just plain sick and wrong. If I was a parent, then I'd tell my kid not to wear it and I'd go to detention for him/her. It's a sick world that treats people like their nothing. I'd go to the supreme court with the UCLA to bankrupt the school/city for their bargain with the devil. :D

I think you may have meant ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union). UCLA is University of California: Los Angeles.

I do not support bankrupting the school...but this is fascism.
Who in the right mind would support this level of interference and spying?
Now, I usually am a supporter of stronger school rules, but, in this case, I say that youth groups come soon. :rolleyes:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050210/ap_on_hi_te/tracking_students

Basically, school gets paid to allow company to install recievers/ tracking system in school and requires students to wear transmitters on campus, punishing those who refuse. Needless to say, some parents are pissed.

While the idea is sound, I think the system is inherently dangerous. From the sounds of it, the school is only doing this for the money. While argueing "safety" someone could hack into the system and find out the location of any student they wanted. Just ripe for a kidnapping. I also noticed that the school board didn't consult w/ the parents before doing this and that the superintendant "thinks ID badges will improve things, he says, then badges there will be."

The next step will be mandatory lowjacking outside of school and at birth.

chick in the picture has some nice tats

Where are the apocalyptic Uber-Fundies to say that this is the "mark of the beast" fortold in revalations?

IT'S THE MARK OF THE BEAST! RUN!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
I thought The mark of the beast is supposed to be upon the forehead.

Seriously, I think this is a major violation of a persons right to privacy. Plus, the principal/administrator guy sounds like a jerkoff dictator. They should sue him until he's broke and homeless, and make him wear a rfid, too.

IT'S THE MARK OF THE BEAST! RUN!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
I thought The mark of the beast is supposed to be upon the forehead.

Seriously, I think this is a major violation of a persons right to privacy. Plus, the principal/administrator guy sounds like a jerkoff dictator. They should sue him until he's broke and homeless, and make him wear a rfid, too.
Dude, you can't take the whole bible literally. Only the parts that fit your political ideology and personal tastes.

That's why it should be implanted directly into the body.

Far enough up the rectum ought to do it at the start of each school day.

Far enough up the rectum ought to do it at the start of each school day.

I know I I would never had skipped class if I had my rectum violated every day at school

Time for someone to sue that school, real quick. I remember when up here a local school started hiring rent-a-cops for their security. If ANY incident happened the rent-a-cop would haul off the kid in handcuffs. Stealing, arguing, not having a freaking Bathroom pass would get you thrown to the ground and cuffed.

Yeah, that didn't last long. People sued, the school lost face, tons of money, etc. They kept the rent-a-cops though, just not those handcuffs. Personally, I'm not a violent person by nature, but if some not-cop tries to cuff me for talking out of turn in class I'd slug him and cuff him to the chair. These are students, not common criminals in lockdown!what if its a PD cop?

I bet you that this is the first steps towards a national or at least school-wide barcoding system. First the library books and supermarket foods (innocent enough), cattle (i mean students) then it will be the whole US. I usually don't support the ACLU but I'm behind 'em 100% on fighting this.

Commie ;)

what if its a PD cop?

Hey, if its a PD cop he's done his training, he has a real badge, he's sworn the oaths of service. I'd trust his professionalism and training to know when he needs to cuff a kid and when its stupid to do it. Obviously if it was my kid I'd want an explaination afterwords, but I'd start there.

A REAL cop gets my fullest respect; a fake cop, a rent-a-cop, a private security guard...I've been one, I've worked with them, while some are just poor college students like myself trying to make a buck, for the most part we're talking about barely trained people who sometimes are almost totally unemployable otherwise, are borderline insane, or a bounced from their real jobs for disciplinary reasons (all actual former co-workers).

Rent-a-cops are NOT Cops; their training is minimal in comparison in a great number of cases. Their use of force is unregulated and dangerously close to vigilante status.

I bet some of those ID tags/transmitters start malfunctioning after a while when they get "accidentally" damaged.

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