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I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

How about you go get a head start on that right now instead of posting here?

Roleplay? Political conversation?

Debating?

Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives.
That's what I thought until I got out of high school.
Turns out, I was wrong.
:D

Ridiculing stupid threads?

Immanentizing the Eschaton?

That's what I thought until I got out of high school.
Turns out, I was wrong.
:D
You did?
damn. That must have been the single most crushing epiphany of your life. And yes, i am including the other one, you know, with the goats and Belgian midget belly dancer? :D

wow Rex....thats not very nice. I have a life.....quite lovely actually, but its fun to hang out here and talk to people from all over the world. The fact that some of the members are well...."adults" has nothing to do with their lives...no matter how full or empty they might be. The age range is very wide. Like 13- 69 or something. Thats excellent I think!

pedophilia?

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

I'm still in College so am I a semi-adult?
Neo pets are supposedly very fun (never tried).
Countries are great. Debating is fun and addictive.(if there are any reasnable debates)

How many years do yu have left on NS than?

Start getting dissappointed. It's not at all like they portray it in the movies.

Pfft, don't be ageist, man!

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

Well ... maybe it's because adults invented the damn thing. The internet, the world wide web, html code, java, cgi script, message boards, nations, political ideaology, NationStates, and Jennifer Government were all created by adults (at least, I'm pretty sure Max Barry isn't a high school kid).

We're here because we belong here. Why aren't you off doing homework or cleaning your room or something?

Debating?

I just think a lot of the discussions here are kind of infantile. I know that that's an insult to me because I'm part of them, but I somehow didn't think adults would fall for this stuff. I mean, there are lots of forums that don't involve stuff like NS that probably have much smarter people. As for the roleplay usage, I must admit the RPing population is a logical demographic, but some of the adults posting here don't seem like RPers.

Start getting dissappointed. It's not at all like they portray it in the movies.
Real life sex is better, for one thing, if you do it right.

Why are there adults on NS?

Why not?

Why aren't you off doing homework or cleaning your room or something?


Probably the same reason you aren't off driving or drinking coffee or something. :D

(at least, I'm pretty sure Max Barry isn't a high school kid).
He certainly doesn't look like one...

I just think a lot of the discussions here are kind of infantile. I know that that's an insult to me because I'm part of them, but I somehow didn't think adults would fall for this stuff. I mean, there are lots of forums that don't involve stuff like NS that probably have much smarter people. As for the roleplay usage, I must admit the RPing population is a logical demographic, but some of the adults posting here don't seem like RPers.

Choose to join a better thread, then.

What I like most about NS General is that the topics are eclectic, and the users beliefs tend to run through all whole spectrum of possibilities. And the user base is enormous.

Other forums are too small, or everyone always agrees with each other, which gets boring.

[QUOTE=Keruvalia]Well ... maybe it's because adults invented the damn thing. The internet, the world wide web, QUOTE]

Didn't Al Gore do that? :D

Probably the same reason you aren't off driving or drinking coffee or something. :D

What? You are at home with two small children too?


Damn kids ARE starting earlier these days....

He certainly doesn't look like one...

And I thank my lucky stars for that. Hmm. Yeah...

Real life sex is better, for one thing, if you do it right.
True. There are advantages.

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

How do you define "adult"?

Age and maturity aren't always in line together.

THERE ARE ADULTS HERE!!!!??

Happy now?

I'm still in College so am I a semi-adult?
Neo pets are supposedly very fun (never tried).
Countries are great. Debating is fun and addictive.(if there are any reasnable debates)

How many years do yu have left on NS than?

it's just that somehow NS doesn't exactly seem like the best place to do country/debating/webconversations. I don't know many sites like this out there, but I'm sure there must be lots of better ones.

And to Keruvalia: adults invented LEGOS too. All right, bad example. Point is, I find it really jard to believe this is a high quality large spectrum of people. If this is really one of the bigger sites of this sort then I stand corrected.

Probably the same reason you aren't off driving or drinking coffee or something. :D

Hey ... I am drinking coffee! I tried driving while surfing the net once, but it cause a major 20 car pile up and everyone got really mad at me.

What? You are at home with two small children too?

You can't drink coffee while you're at home with two small children?

What makes you think we don't have lives? I have a job, a lot of friends, great books to read, and i write. I was in the next town over all afternoon today. I only come on here at the end of the day when i have nothing else i need to do. As for the topics on here, i actually think a lot of them are very deep and thought provoking, and there are a lot of intelligent people on here.

Didn't Al Gore do that? :D

Hee Hee ... and he was an adult at the time. :D

forums for adults are either terribly boring (with posts being few and far between) or they degenerate into only talking about sex. i enjoy sex talk as much as the next person but not all day every day.

True. There are advantages.
Hee hee. You know what's really damn funny about that? I'm not quite 19. I still meant the sex thing, tho.

Edit: Hee hee. After seeing my post right under ashmoria's, i don't think i could've timed that better. :D

And to Keruvalia: adults invented LEGOS too. All right, bad example. Point is, I find it really jard to believe this is a high quality large spectrum of people. If this is really one of the bigger sites of this sort then I stand corrected.

I have Lego! I also have a Gamecube.

Anyway, I don't think there are any other sites out there like this one. NationStates is pretty unique.

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.
You know what?

You are right.

When I started posting here I assumed everyone was a bit older. But, it does seem to be a younger crowd.

Plus, this damn addiction takes up too much time. I work on the computer so it is so easy to click over to NS and see what is going on and next thing I know three hours have gone by.

Therefore, I am taking your point to heart and ending my NS addiction. The The Free States of Ogiek, like Poland of the 19th century, is no more.

Thanks, Vegas-Rex.

If all the people saying that this site actually has relatively intelligent conversation are right... then that means I have finally accidentally stumbled into something cool.

WOOT!

You can't drink coffee while you're at home with two small children?

Yes I can. However adults have also evolved the ability to do multiple things concurrently!

For example, at this very moment I am posting here, drinking coffee, burning a CD of tunes for the car, and babysitting a diagnostic script that is running against one of my servers at work.

Sometimes I even watch a movie at the same time as drinking coffee.



It's amazing just how much you can do if you really put your mind to it...

You know what?

You are right.

When I started posting here I assumed everyone was a bit older. But, it does seem to be a younger crowd.

Plus, this damn addiction takes up too much time. I work on the computer so it is so easy to click over to NS and see what is going on and next thing I know three hours have gone by.

Therefore, I am taking your point to heart and ending my NS addiction. The The Free States of Ogiek, like Poland of the 19th century, is no more.

Thanks, Vegas-Rex.


noooooooooooooooooooooo :eek:

I like the people here. And too many adult forums are just cyber-sex sites. But mostly because I like the people here.

I like the people here. And too many adult forums are just cyber-sex sites. But mostly because I like the people here.

I like the people here. And too many adult forums are just cyber-sex sites. But mostly because I like the people here.


Well we like you, too!

Want some coffee?

Sometimes I even watch a movie at the same time as drinking coffee.


You lie!

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.
It's based on a book writen for adults with adult topics and rules and issues appropriate for adults and is therefore and adult site.

AAArgh! Stupid thing froze up and now I have a double post. When NS screws up I never know if it's my crappy computer or this damn site.

I like the people here. And too many adult forums are just cyber-sex sites. But mostly because I like the people here.
Yep, I agree and those are annoying especially the ons that aren't supposed to be but people decide to anyways.

I just think a lot of the discussions here are kind of infantile. I know that that's an insult to me because I'm part of them, but I somehow didn't think adults would fall for this stuff. I mean, there are lots of forums that don't involve stuff like NS that probably have much smarter people. As for the roleplay usage, I must admit the RPing population is a logical demographic, but some of the adults posting here don't seem like RPers.

We avoid the forums that are infantile. It's not like there is the magic puff that says "You're grown up now, you must cease to do everything you enjoyed before this point and start to do boring adult things."

We avoid the forums that are infantile. It's not like there is the magic puff that says "You're grown up now, you must cease to do everything you enjoyed before this point and start to do boring adult things."
To add to that, when would you magically become an adult? After puberty or on your 18th birthday or when you were capable of that maturity level? It would be different for everyone.

You're an asshole.
How about I switch the question:
Why the fuck aren't you out scoring pussy and going to parties or hanging out like I did in school, instead of posting on an internet forum?

The answer to your question: I only post when I'm working, and being a computer professional, it's awfully convenient.

Now, your excuse...

Well we like you, too!

Want some coffee?

Ick-coffee
If you don't mind I'll have a cuppa earl grey :D

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.
They're conducting psychological research, of course. It's part of a secret plan to take over the world.

Don't tell anyone I told you, or they'll send agents to silence me... and probably you, as well.

*looks about nervously*

You're an asshole.
How about I switch the question:
Why the fuck aren't you out scoring pussy and going to party or hang out like I did in school, instead of posting on an internet forum?

The answer to your question: I only post when I'm working, and being a computer professional, it's awfully convenient.

Now, your excuse...
lmao... Very true...

They're conducting psychological research, of course. It's part of a secret plan to take over the world.

Don't tell anyone I told you, or they'll send agents to silence me... and probably you, as well.

*looks about nervously*
wtf are you babblign about?

You're an asshole.
How about I switch the question:
Why the fuck aren't you out scoring pussy and going to parties or hanging out like I did in school, instead of posting on an internet forum?

The answer to your question: I only post when I'm working, and being a computer professional, it's awfully convenient.

Now, your excuse...

My excuse is I seriously haven't found any better forums. But there must be some, right?

Just to counter all of the arguments about how adults keep the same interests, I know that, but usually more time alive means more chances to learn about better sites, and I refuse to believe I have actually been able to find a good site.

Ick-coffee
If you don't mind I'll have a cuppa earl grey :D

Oooh ... sorry ... ran out. I have some Chinese Oolong and Chai from India, though.

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

Oh, Rex, where should I start? Let's see ... I like most of the answers already given, but these are mine:
1. "Growing old is genetic; growing up is optional". Once you're old enough to laugh at yourself, you can play again, and NS is a blast.

2. What makes you think at least some of us aren't still in university? -- and don't intend to stay there until we die?

3. "get lives" -- recreation is part of life, and when you outgrow that alpha-personality-in-the-making, you'll realize that. I don't play NS because I don't have a life, I play because I do.

4. There comes a time in life when you no longer are embarrassed to do things that could be called "immature", as long as you want to do it. It's why a class of 9 year olds will feel embarrassed singing "Over the river and through the woods" but their school teacher won't feel embarrassed leading them.

5. I think you're talking about the adults (whatever they are; I wish you'd define the word) from the generation before mine. The ones that hit 30 and miraculously transformed into pipe-smoking, slipper-wearing pillars of middle-of the-road conformity who couldn't remember what it was like to be "young" (29).

My generation didn't expect to live past 30, and when we woke up on our 30th birthdays, once the shock wore off we said, "Screw it! It doesn't change a thing" and picked up right where we left off the day before -- or maybe even more radical than the day before because we felt like we were on borrowed time.

6. RP for someone like me doesn't necessarily mean the same thing it seems to mean for younger people. I'm not trying to be Douglas MacArthur or Julius Caesar or Dracula or whatever. All my life I've held certain ideals about what the world could become with enough effort to change what's wrong with it. Whenever I've had the chance in real life, I've worked for that change. It's limited. But here, I can try to apply those ideals to relationships with nations. So you could say I come here to play out the possibilities of the world becoming a better place. Call it escapism, but then why am I still working for the same causes I began with as a youth? Call it compromise, but then why am I working harder than I did when I started? I think of it as recharging and refocussing. I come away ready to keep trying to fix the world, one bit at a time.


Am I qualified to comment on why "adults" play NS? Don't be silly. There are loads of us here, and we're all different. I'm just talking about me.

I'm glad you didn't say "grown-up". That's another story.

My excuse is I seriously haven't found any better forums. But there must be some, right?

Just to counter all of the arguments about how adults keep the same interests, I know that, but usually more time alive means more chances to learn about better sites, and I refuse to believe I have actually been able to find a good site.
the net wasnt as popular years ago... so weve had just as long as you have.

My generation didn't expect to live past 30, and when we woke up on our 30th birthdays, once the shock wore off we said, "Screw it! It doesn't change a thing" and picked up right where we left off the day before -- or maybe even more radical than the day before because we felt like we were on borrowed time.


Haha ... yeah ... turning 30 was a shock. My friends threw me a party for becoming the official age at which Bob Dylan once said not to trust anybody over.

They dropped the '0', though, and the party was themed as if it were for a 3 year old. There was even Jameson Irish whiskey in the sippy cups.

Haha ... yeah ... turning 30 was a shock. My friends threw me a party for becoming the official age at which Bob Dylan once said not to trust anybody over.

They dropped the '0', though, and the party was themed as if it were for a 3 year old. There was even Jameson Irish whiskey in the sippy cups.
sounds awesome!

sounds awesome!

Well don't ask me ... I can't remember 70% of it.

Oooh ... sorry ... ran out. I have some Chinese Oolong and Chai from India, though.

That'll work. BTW I love the 30th b-day party. Your friends sound fun.

Well don't ask me ... I can't remember 70% of it.
Reminds me of my 1/3 of a century party. Or, actually, it doesn't. I can't remember it well either.

Well don't ask me ... I can't remember 70% of it.
lmao... I've had parties like that! So fun!

Reminds me of my 1/3 of a century party. Or, actually, it doesn't. I can't remember it well either.
I was going to say sounds like my 21st but i really wouldnt know all i know is i woke up beaten up and hungover horribly...

That'll work. BTW I love the 30th b-day party. Your friends sound fun.

Well, I try to pick decent friends. Life's too short not to surround yourself with good people.

Well, I try to pick decent friends. Life's too short not to surround yourself with good people.
Lmao... I agree...

I was going to say sounds like my 21st but i really wouldnt know all i know is i woke up beaten up and hungover horribly...

rofl ... well my 21st was dry ... I didn't drink back then. I didn't actually start drinking until 25 and quit about 4 or 5 months ago because it became way too damn much.

1. For those adults for whom adult=bigger nerd, I get why you're here.
2. For those adults for whom adult=more web games, I get why you're here.

As I can't think of why any teen not in either of those categories would do NS, I can't think of why any adult not in those categories would. I know some of you have listed motives involving experimenting with nations, etc., but there are definitely better ways to do that than web games. Political Theory, for example. The kids who played with chemistry sets grow up to play with more dangerous/useful stuff, there must be soemthing kids who play with NS grow up to do.

rofl ... well my 21st was dry ... I didn't drink back then. I didn't actually start drinking until 25 and quit about 4 or 5 months ago because it became way too damn much.
Mine wasn't, to say the least. We had a good ol' time. The 2 chicks that were hanging out with us were completely twice baked and drunk as can be so everyone had em except myself, or so I've heard lol

but there are definitely better ways to do that than web games. Political Theory, for example.
Now you know why most people are here in General. To debate political science, philosophy, and sometimes just bide their time.

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

Actually I sometimes wonder why there are any children here.

Actually I sometimes wonder why there are any children here.
Same here...seeing as I was talkaing about my 21 bday

1. For those adults for whom adult=bigger nerd, I get why you're here.
2. For those adults for whom adult=more web games, I get why you're here.

As I can't think of why any teen not in either of those categories would do NS, I can't think of why any adult not in those categories would. I know some of you have listed motives involving experimenting with nations, etc., but there are definitely better ways to do that than web games. Political Theory, for example. The kids who played with chemistry sets grow up to play with more dangerous/useful stuff, there must be soemthing kids who play with NS grow up to do.
Actually, as a student I've found that by reading, and occasionally participating, in some of the debates on this site, I've definitely learned a lot of various things, and seen a lot of different viewpoints (many of which were infantile, racist, or just plain stupid, but thats beside the point), and I think that is a very important thing.

Same here...seeing as I was talkaing about my 21 bday

Kids probably talk about drugs/sex/craziness more than anyone really does said activities. The topic isn't exactly above our heads. You should listen to my friend bryce talk. Actually you shouldn't. It would hurt.

Anyway, I am soon to reveal my real motivation for posting this thread, so stay tuned!

1. For those adults for whom adult=bigger nerd, I get why you're here.
2. For those adults for whom adult=more web games, I get why you're here.

As I can't think of why any teen not in either of those categories would do NS, I can't think of why any adult not in those categories would. I know some of you have listed motives involving experimenting with nations, etc., but there are definitely better ways to do that than web games. Political Theory, for example. The kids who played with chemistry sets grow up to play with more dangerous/useful stuff, there must be soemthing kids who play with NS grow up to do.

Does that mean you're leaving? :p

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.


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Does that mean you're leaving? :p

No. I'm a nerd.

NS is big enough for all of us from 8 to 80 (sorry for the cliche if you are older or younger). I am sure Max Berry would like that demographic slice to read his book. The more the better.

As for me, being closer to the end of my life than the beginning, find NS fun. Sure there is stuff in the forums a bit crude and even childish by my generation's standards but in some ways it gives me a chance to understand generations that I would have a harder time doing face-to-face with my own kids (ages ranging from 19-25).

Hint for you: I'll let you in on the big secret. Us adults have no idea what the fuck is going on either, we just try not to let the youngsters know this.

Quiet, you!

Sure there is stuff in the forums a bit crude and even childish by my generation's standards but in some ways it gives me a chance to understand generations that I would have a harder time doing face-to-face with my own kids (ages ranging from 19-25).

Seems to me that the General forum is going through a particularly infantile stage at the moment - from the start of the year or so - but it has been like this before and picked up again with more interesting debate returning to it in the past.

No. I'm a nerd.

Welcome, nerd. :D

Kids probably talk about drugs/sex/craziness more than anyone really does said activities. The topic isn't exactly above our heads. You should listen to my friend bryce talk. Actually you shouldn't. It would hurt.

Anyway, I am soon to reveal my real motivation for posting this thread, so stay tuned!
I'm thrilled, really.

I love ambiguous assholes who rub their pretensious motivations in my face in the most underhanded, sneaky fashion possible.

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Amusing.

Anyways, this brings me to the reason I ran this post. You see, in several other posts I have encountered adults who claim to know exactly what they're talking about just because they have life experiences, etc. You have all just proved to me that you really know just as much about what's going on as us teens, and thus cannot pull age in these debates ever again.
HA HA HA HA!

Oh, one more thing I forgot to mention. A grey hair moment.

D&D is probably considered the beginning of the Role-playing "baby boom". We are in our 40s now. I still like to Role Play. :)

I'm thrilled, really.

I love ambiguous assholes who rub their pretensious motivations in my face in the most underhanded, sneaky fashion possible.

Why thank you. I try.

Anyways, this brings me to the reason I ran this post. You see, in several other posts I have encountered adults who claim to know exactly what they're talking about just because they have life experiences, etc. You have all just proved to me that you really know just as much about what's going on as us teens, and thus cannot pull age in these debates ever again.


That's not entirely true. There are things you experience as you get older that does teach you important lessons in life of which you were formerly unaware. That's the whole point of getting older.

There will come a day for you, just like it has for everyone of the older generation, when you will look back on your 15-18 year old self and want to smack the shit out of him/her for being so stupid.

Just for an example, I can tell you what it's like to be married and have kids. You couldn't tell anyone what that's like. It doesn't make me any better, just having a different experience to which I can relate.

D&D is probably considered the beginning of the Role-playing "baby boom". We are in our 40s now. I still like to Role Play. :)

I still play AD&D. ;)

You see, in several other posts I have encountered adults who claim to know exactly what they're talking about just because they have life experiences, etc. You have all just proved to me that you really know just as much about what's going on as us teens, and thus cannot pull age in these debates ever again.
HA HA HA HA!

Pah: think about all the stupid mistakes you have made and had to live by as a teenager. Us adults have made those same mistakes over and over again more times than you can possibly imagine in our implausibly long lives. Thus we know of what we speak.

Amusing.

Anyways, this brings me to the reason I ran this post. You see, in several other posts I have encountered adults who claim to know exactly what they're talking about just because they have life experiences, etc. You have all just proved to me that you really know just as much about what's going on as us teens, and thus cannot pull age in these debates ever again.
HA HA HA HA!
I'm sure your IQ is decent, but your emotional IQ is questionable, probably having to do with your apparent immaturity. You've just pissed on your own feet, d00d.

Why thank you. I try.
Please, you don't need to. It's obviously a natural talent you got there.

There will come a day for you, just like it has for everyone of the older generation, when you will look back on your 15-18 year old self and want to smack the shit out of him/her for being so stupid.

This just raises the question of whether your 65 year olf self would want to pummel your 35 year old self for having the audacity to think that they had a handle on things.

This just raises the question of whether your 65 year olf self would want to pummel your 35 year old self for having the audacity to think that they had a handle on things.

I would imagine so. I know my Mother (she's 52) has said she doesn't think she really matured until 40ish.

I still play AD&D. ;) That is very cool. I used to play D&D before someone put the A in front of the D&D, if you know what I mean. I still remember the reader's digest sized booklets (there were three of them) for the player's guide, the monster book and the spell book. I still wish I kept my set. It would probably be worth some money now.

I'm sure your IQ is decent, but your emotional IQ is questionable, probably having to do with your apparent immaturity. You've just pissed on your own feet, d00d.


Please, you don't need to. It's obviously a natural talent you got there.

Serioulsy, I know I'm being annoying and I know it totally invalidates my post. I also know that there are lots more people who don't know they're annoying and actually think they're liked. I was just surprised to learn some of them are adults. It's not really emotional maturity if it affects all ages equally.

That is very cool. I used to play D&D before someone put the A in front of the D&D, if you know what I mean. I still remember the reader's digest sized booklets (there were three of them) for the player's guide, the monster book and the spell book. I still wish I kept my set. It would probably be worth some money now.

Nod ... I prefer AD&D over D&D, though. D&D kinda lost touch with its Chainmail roots, but many of the great elements came back with AD&D 1st Ed, which is my preferred game.

2nd Ed. had some fun bits to it, but 3rd Ed. blows donkey ass.

I would imagine so. I know my Mother (she's 52) has said she doesn't think she really matured until 40ish.

So its impossible to be right? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

I also know that there are lots more people who don't know they're annoying and actually think they're liked.

You'll find one of the greatest differences between adults and teens is that adults really don't care if they're liked or not ... they just be themselves.

Oh ... and we can have pie for breakfast.

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

i can't say i'm down with that man

i love etrusca and he's old. who cares how old people are as long as they make interesting contributions to conversation???

:confused:

Serioulsy, I know I'm being annoying and I know it totally invalidates my post. I also know that there are lots more people who don't know they're annoying and actually think they're liked. I was just surprised to learn some of them are adults. It's not really emotional maturity if it affects all ages equally.
Now that was a decent post. I'd agree with you there.
Don't expect adults to be "magical beings", full of wisdom and wit because of their age.
Experience truly is the best teacher, but plenty of people drop out of life's school too early. ;)

So its impossible to be right? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

It's impossible to be Universally Right(tm). It is possible, however, to take care of yourself and form your own educated stances. Thoughts, like water, are fluid and should be constantly re-examined and updated.

You certainly wouldn't want to still maintain the same world view you had when you were 8 years old, would you?

I still remember the reader's digest sized booklets (there were three of them) for the player's guide, the monster book and the spell book. I still wish I kept my set. It would probably be worth some money now.

Only if you kept them in mint condition in their box... question for someone who started off playing what has now retrospectively come to be known as (O)D&D - when you got the rules did you know what the hell you were meant to be doing with them? Even in retrospect with knowledge of what they probably meant to be saying they look like a chaotic mish mash which would do more to confuse than to clarify - take for example the common and casual references to Wilderness Survival (a game published by an entirely different company).

Nod ... I prefer AD&D over D&D, though. D&D kinda lost touch with its Chainmail roots, but many of the great elements came back with AD&D 1st Ed, which is my preferred game.

2nd Ed. had some fun bits to it, but 3rd Ed. blows donkey ass.

Interesting.

Nod ... I prefer AD&D over D&D, though. D&D kinda lost touch with its Chainmail roots, but many of the great elements came back with AD&D 1st Ed, which is my preferred game.

2nd Ed. had some fun bits to it, but 3rd Ed. blows donkey ass.

3.5 does fix some of the problems though. I don't know about the editions before 3, but because I'm addicted to new content I have to update.

Now that
Experience truly is the best teacher, but plenty of people drop out of life's school too early. ;)

that's quality man. did you think it up? :cool:

Universally Right(tm)
That was worth the price of admission alone. :D

I still play AD&D. ;)

Me too. Very nerdy. I still play 2nd edition because I have most of it memorized and I'm too lazy to learn 3rd edition.

that's quality man. did you think it up? :cool:
Thanks. Yup, all mine.

Nod ... I prefer AD&D over D&D, though. D&D kinda lost touch with its Chainmail roots, but many of the great elements came back with AD&D 1st Ed, which is my preferred game.

2nd Ed. had some fun bits to it, but 3rd Ed. blows donkey ass.

Given the choice between the 'classic' versions of D&D, if I found myself forced at gunpoint to play any of them it would be the Basic & Expert sets. They had a certain elegance which became lost in the pointless complexities of (1st and 2nd edition) AD&D. But then what do I know? - I still think that Tunnels & Trolls has its attractions.

Why are there kids?
Do you mean College/High School or College/University?
They obviously dont know the goodness of NS

Me too. Very nerdy. I still play 2nd edition because I have most of it memorized and I'm too lazy to learn 3rd edition.

Ha! Rock on. If I find myself up in OK (which has been known to happen), I'll hook up with ya for a game. :D

insomnia?


hopeless addiction?


lack of the sims2?

You'll find one of the greatest differences between adults and teens is that adults really don't care if they're liked or not ... they just be themselves.

Oh ... and we can have pie for breakfast.
Meat or Fruit Pie
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Being an adult doesn't automatically make you wise or mature.
In fact most adults wouldn't even fit that description. However, most adults do, including the ones who do fit the description of being wise or mature, do enjoy computer games, rping, or just having a good conversation in a forum.
As for adult sites, all they do is talk about sex. Just because I am male does not mean that is what I prefer to talk about (contrary to all the stereotypes out there that aren't based on sound research).
To assume men think of nothing but sex is negative stereotyping. Just as assuming that adults should never enjoy life is also negative stereotyping. In fact, sometimes, the wisest adults, are often the ones who take the time to enjoy life. If we didn't, our lifespans would be much shorter than they are.
For most people adult hood does not come until they are in their 30". That is when the mind starts thinking maturely. However, though no one can claim wisdom in everything about life, there are certain areas that different adults would have special wisdom in. For example a person who has been in the military for 30 years would have more credibility than some one who is in college and has only read about the military.
Same with someone who was a mechanic or architect for 30 years. Course, if you do a lot of reading about the subject, that would help too. But how many of us really remember absolutely everything we read. Especially since most books on the market today turn out to be proven wrong by some test or research carried out the following year.
The reason adults for NS is:
1. We enjoy the political, philosophical, and religious conversations.
2. If we went to other forums, you would find that most other forums require that you agree with some person or group in order to be allowed to post. Adults value dissenting opinions. Otherwise there is no point to holding a conversation at all. Why would you want to only talk to people who agree with you. If I had to put up with that, I would die of boredom.
I might be right about somethings, but I don't need someone to tell me why I am right. I would rather read from other people why they think they are right. Then I compare their beliefs with mine, and the conversations take off from there. Why? Because its challenging and because it is challenging, it is also stimulating.
4. We like rps just as much as anyone else.
5. Sometimes we come here, just to pass the time. Most of the time I'm on here, I only read the threads. Actually I read a lot more than I post.
If I find something stimulating, then I will usually post.

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.
Because it is enjoyable!!!!

2. If we went to other forums, you would find that most other forums require that you agree with some person or group in order to be allowed to post. Adults value dissenting opinions. Otherwise there is no point to holding a conversation at all. Why would you want to only talk to people who agree with you. If I had to put up with that, I would die of boredom.
That's exactly why I come to NS General. I could go to Libertarian forums, but that just seems like an internet form of mutual masturbation.
NS is far more entertaining, although the game itself is pretty boring once you've been through all of the issues.

I just think a lot of the discussions here are kind of infantile. I know that that's an insult to me because I'm part of them, but I somehow didn't think adults would fall for this stuff. I mean, there are lots of forums that don't involve stuff like NS that probably have much smarter people. As for the roleplay usage, I must admit the RPing population is a logical demographic, but some of the adults posting here don't seem like RPers. Yah, well I've been on some other forums and they're usually set up by a person who has a certain world view and who moderates accordingly. People with divergent viewpoints get harassed off the board or are ignored. Here, you can pretty much express anything you want to as long as you do it politely and the spectrum of people posting is much broader than any other forum I've seen.

As for smarter people don't kid yourself. Posting sight unseen as people do on the net seems to bring out the idiot and the infant in everyone. Iv'e only seen one forum whose members sounded intelligent and that was one in which all the posts had to be palindromes, but then, I haven't checked out anything with MENSA participants.

How strange...I'm pretty sure that you don't actually grow out of politics. In fact I seem to have noticed that most world leaders and politicians are actually adults, and that most people who vote are actually adults too. Funny, that.

NationStates is about politics. It's about seeing the consequences that every stance on every issue can take. And it's about discussing these ideas with both like-minded and completely contrary-minded people, in order to keep them strong. That's not something that's just for kids.

Plus, you don't actually suddenly want to stop having fun when you're 21.

It's a laugh, innit?

I'm actually a bit surprised that NS is a game site that has mostly sub-17 teenagers playing it. I mean, its a really complex online game, far more complex than any other game site I've been on. It features the sort of conversation that adults normally would do, such is the authenticity of the international incidents.
When you compare NS to neopets, however dwarved it may be by Neopets, NS is far more rewarding.

Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives.
We do. But there is no rule against having fun with it, adn even ahving NS in it!!

I'm actually a bit surprised that NS is a game site that has mostly sub-17 teenagers playing it. I mean, its a really complex online game, far more complex than any other game site I've been on. It features the sort of conversation that adults normally would do, such is the authenticity of the international incidents.
When you compare NS to neopets, however dwarved it may be by Neopets, NS is far more rewarding.actually, it's not. there are no consiquences for UN votes. I could vote for a UN Resolution supporting Democracy then abolish it in my nation and there would be no dire effects. conflicting resolutions can be voted in. I got interested in the concept of the game but when there was no real threat for doing wrong things, I lost the glamour. now I only post on fun threads and use this to escape reality.


btw... I know alot of adults who play Civ, Command and Conquer, warcraft, EQ, and other games more complex than this. this is a fun, brainless game.

Given the choice between the 'classic' versions of D&D, if I found myself forced at gunpoint to play any of them it would be the Basic & Expert sets. They had a certain elegance which became lost in the pointless complexities of (1st and 2nd edition) AD&D. But then what do I know? - I still think that Tunnels & Trolls has its attractions.

CHAINMAIL!!!

Perhaps to learn from a psychological experiment that some are conducting. <puts away research material before anyone notices> <.< >.>

actually, it's not. there are no consiquences for UN votes. I could vote for a UN Resolution supporting Democracy then abolish it in my nation and there would be no dire effects. conflicting resolutions can be voted in. I got interested in the concept of the game but when there was no real threat for doing wrong things, I lost the glamour. now I only post on fun threads and use this to escape reality.


btw... I know alot of adults who play Civ, Command and Conquer, warcraft, EQ, and other games more complex than this. this is a fun, brainless game.

I know that there are lots of games way more complicated than this, especially WoW and EQ. But I'm talking about a games site such as this, which includes such sites like Neopets and Gaia. Both of them are similar in size and scale as NS is, but both are far less complex since with NS half the time you have to be acting in character and roleplay a nation that's sort of similar to Civ.

CHAINMAIL!!!

CHAINMAIL!!!!

or

THE FANTASY SUPPLEMENT!!!!!THACOMFG111111

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.


We do have lives......we have jobs that are very very very dull so we do stuff like this to keep us sane (ish)!

CHAINMAIL!!!!

or

THE FANTASY SUPPLEMENT!!!!!THACOMFG111111
Monsters, Monsters!

Paranoia!!

?

Monsters, Monsters!

Judges' Guild Field Guide To Encounters?

Paranoia!!

?

Papers & Paychecks?

Judges' Guild Field Guide To Encounters?



Papers & Paychecks?
(You're much better at this than me.) My final shot:
TOON!

Incidentally, I'd echo your comments about the state of the origonal box sets of DnD - missing tables, missing explanations, repeated chunks, no order and, of course, arbitrary rules and regulations a plenty. I couldn't believe they were trying to charge money for it. Tunnnels & Trolls was a superior conception IMO.

Incidentally, I'd echo your comments about the state of the origonal box sets of DnD - missing tables, missing explanations, repeated chunks, no order and, of course, arbitrary rules and regulations a plenty. I couldn't believe they were trying to charge money for it.

Enough about 1st edition AD&D, what about the Men & Magic, Monsters & Treasure and Underworld & Wilderness Adventures set?

Enough about 1st edition AD&D, what about the Men & Magic, Monsters & Treasure and Underworld & Wilderness Adventures set?
LOL. Gygax did deploy a version of Murdoch's maxim: never let technology lead your marketing strategy.

LOL. Gygax did deploy a version of Murdoch's maxim: never let technology lead your marketing strategy.

As far as I can see it, Gygax's main marketing strategy can be summed up in four words: Fuck you, Dave Arneson.

I work, socialise all the time and seem to be constantly asleep. I still find time to post on NS. Legally, I'm an adult.

As far as I can see it, Gygax's main marketing strategy can be summed up in four words: Fuck you, Dave Arneson.
Now that did make me laugh. Yet another example of those yin-yang partnership things.

Now that did make me laugh. Yet another example of those yin-yang partnership things.

Your comments have now led me to consider the homosexual tension obviously existing between the pair of them. I really don't want to pursue this line of thought any further.

Your comments have now led me to consider the homosexual tension obviously existing between the pair of them. I really don't want to pursue this line of thought any further.
I seem to remember at least one of them had a beard. Nasty.

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.
are you kidding me? i am surprised there is anybody younger than 23 on these forums!

first of all, "getting a life" doesn't interfere with NationStates; how the hell often are you posting? i find myself quite able to have a life in addition to my hobbies, and NS is only one of my hobbies. maybe you need to budget your time more if you find yourself unable to maintain "a life" in addition to your posting.

second, the debates that occur on these forums are of particular interest to adults in many ways. debates on government structure or political influence are obviously more immediate a concern to people who actually have the power to vote or run for office, since they have the accompanying responsibility of using their power to impact their own governments.

third, when i was in High School i NEVER would have had time for this stuff. i had school, activities, a job, and friends, and that was plenty. now, as an "adult" (still a student, of course :P) i have managed to merge school+job and activities+friends, and have better hours for both, so i can enjoy the luxury of extended private hobby time. plus, NS is nice for when i am at work, because i have stretches of 10-20 minutes while a prep is running and i have nothing else to be doing...i can just post on NS for a little bit while i wait.

if you think that you won't have an interest in the topics on NS when you become an adult then please, for the love of God, educate yourself. you'll learn that many of these issues become far more important and relavent as you grow up. and you NEED to keep debating them! don't just decide that when you become an adult you know the answers and don't need to ever change your views! we have enough idiots running around with that notion, so please be part of the solution and keep open discussion and debate a part of your adult life as well as your youth.

are you kidding me? i am surprised there is anybody younger than 23 on these forums!

first of all, "getting a life" doesn't interfere with NationStates; how the hell often are you posting? i find myself quite able to have a life in addition to my hobbies, and NS is only one of my hobbies. maybe you need to budget your time more if you find yourself unable to maintain "a life" in addition to your posting.

second, the debates that occur on these forums are of particular interest to adults in many ways. debates on government structure or political influence are obviously more immediate a concern to people who actually have the power to vote or run for office, since they have the accompanying responsibility of using their power to impact their own governments.

third, when i was in High School i NEVER would have had time for this stuff. i had school, activities, a job, and friends, and that was plenty. now, as an "adult" (still a student, of course :P) i have managed to merge school+job and activities+friends, and have better hours for both, so i can enjoy the luxury of extended private hobby time. plus, NS is nice for when i am at work, because i have stretches of 10-20 minutes while a prep is running and i have nothing else to be doing...i can just post on NS for a little bit while i wait.

if you think that you won't have an interest in the topics on NS when you become an adult then please, for the love of God, educate yourself. you'll learn that many of these issues become far more important and relavent as you grow up. and you NEED to keep debating them! don't just decide that when you become an adult you know the answers and don't need to ever change your views! we have enough idiots running around with that notion, so please be part of the solution and keep open discussion and debate a part of your adult life as well as your youth.

Yeah, what he said....

Yeah, what he said....

Bottle is a lady. A hot, sexy, steamy lady who I'd love to [The rest of this post excedes NS classification]

are you kidding me? i am surprised there is anybody younger than 23 on these forums!

first of all, "getting a life" doesn't interfere with NationStates; how the hell often are you posting? i find myself quite able to have a life in addition to my hobbies, and NS is only one of my hobbies. maybe you need to budget your time more if you find yourself unable to maintain "a life" in addition to your posting.

second, the debates that occur on these forums are of particular interest to adults in many ways. debates on government structure or political influence are obviously more immediate a concern to people who actually have the power to vote or run for office, since they have the accompanying responsibility of using their power to impact their own governments.

third, when i was in High School i NEVER would have had time for this stuff. i had school, activities, a job, and friends, and that was plenty. now, as an "adult" (still a student, of course :P) i have managed to merge school+job and activities+friends, and have better hours for both, so i can enjoy the luxury of extended private hobby time. plus, NS is nice for when i am at work, because i have stretches of 10-20 minutes while a prep is running and i have nothing else to be doing...i can just post on NS for a little bit while i wait.

if you think that you won't have an interest in the topics on NS when you become an adult then please, for the love of God, educate yourself. you'll learn that many of these issues become far more important and relavent as you grow up. and you NEED to keep debating them! don't just decide that when you become an adult you know the answers and don't need to ever change your views! we have enough idiots running around with that notion, so please be part of the solution and keep open discussion and debate a part of your adult life as well as your youth.

You know, that reminds me, of two females I met. They decided not to go to college after high school because someone had persuaded them, that once you turn 18, you are too old to continue your education. Its a travesty.

I'm over 30, and I'm on NS! While most here aren't that old, ya can't generalise!

Nationstates doesnt take much time out of the day, really. Who cares if adults are on it? NationStates isn't exactly a "for kids" thing anyway.

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

You're one of them kids who think "computers" and "the internet" is for teens only.

I'm 19. Does that count as 'adult'?

I'm just here to make jokes in the hot dog thread.

Oh ... and we can have pie for breakfast.
Meat or Fruit Pie mmmmmmmm

Whatever we damn well please: and we don't need to clean up after ourselves either, we just move house.

Immanentizing the Eschaton?
Right on

Amusing.

Anyways, this brings me to the reason I ran this post. You see, in several other posts I have encountered adults who claim to know exactly what they're talking about just because they have life experiences, etc. You have all just proved to me that you really know just as much about what's going on as us teens, and thus cannot pull age in these debates ever again.
HA HA HA HA!


OK, so you've just proven that you really are a teen. Now what?

I have to say, I've never met adults here who make such grandiose claims for adulthood (unlike the adults I have to deal with in RL) but at your age you can't afford to despise experience either -- you don't have enough of it to know what it is. We don't "know everything" (are you thinking of your parents here?) we just know things we've experienced.

For example think of how bad life can be if a national leader, let's say a president, is allowed to reinterpret anyone who criticizes his national policy as "anti-patriotic" or "subversive". It's one thing to figure out what it must be like, another to live through it. Because I've lived through it, I have a different perspective on it, and also on the seemingly insignificant events that led up to it. That's not me being clever, it's me being old plus being observant or at least having a memory.

As Will Rogers said: "Wisdom comes from experience, and experience? well that comes from not having enough wisdom." Or something like that.

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

Actually .. its totally opposite to me. I wonder why in the hell young kids are on here.. up to college students.. You're the ones that should be doing something else besides sitting in front of a pc. Once you're married and have a family and work for a living you don't go out as often.. and hardely ever for some.

This thread just goes to show that age is no measure of capacity for intelligent reasoning.

That, and that every rule has its exception.

And BTW I don't keep coming back to this site because of my nation. I sometimes go days without even checking on my issues. I come here for the discussions. I play Warcraft and EQ for gaming purposes. From what I got from your starting post.. you think the adults that play this game don't have a life because of the make up of the game.. but if they played another game they would? That makes no sense. Ofcourse when I first read your post , I automatically took it that you were referring to being on the pc itself.. instead of doing something in "real life". That would've made more sense. You should've left the "having a life part" out and just asked why adults like this game instead of claiming they don't because of the TYPE of game it is.

Bottle is a lady. A hot, sexy, steamy lady who I'd love to [The rest of this post excedes NS classification]
*blows kiss*

*winks*

*does some other flirty hot girl thing*

*starts playing Tony Hawk, then remembers shes is supposed to be acting sexy*

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

::is an adult that plays NeoPets too:: :D

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.
Because the truth is, adults are no more mature than children. We're just better at hiding our immaturity and insecurities. :D

EDIT: P.S. You just don't "get" a life - you make it. And I happen to enjoy debating and chatting about frivolous things and responding to the NS issues, even while I'm someone who goes dancing, throws parties, participates in classes (well, not at the moment, but going to grad school soon), performs research, etc.

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

Life gets dull and sometimes, especially after kids leaving the house to go and hang out is not an option, so if all else fails, I come here. It stimulates my mind more than late night tv. also gives me something to do on the nights that i work. (if i can gain computer time.)

*blows kiss*

*winks*

*does some other flirty hot girl thing*

*starts playing Tony Hawk, then remembers shes is supposed to be acting sexy*


:D Girls who play video games are totally sexy.


I took my cousin to see Tony Hawk's only NZ performence the other week. I won tickets off the radio. He did tricks and stuff.

He did tricks and stuff.
:eek:
Whoa, I never saw that coming!
I mean, he never does that kind of stuff!

:D

:D Girls who play video games are totally sexy.
sweet. if number of hours spent playing videogames were to determine one's Sexiness Quotient, then i would be the sexiest female on the planet...

I took my cousin to see Tony Hawk's only NZ performence the other week. I won tickets off the radio. He did tricks and stuff.
far out! i have been playing TH games since they first came out, and i've seen tons of his videos, but i have never seen him live.

sweet. if number of hours spent playing videogames were to determine one's Sexiness Quotient, then i would be the sexiest female on the planet...
Are you sure?
I'm up there in hours of playing games...
:p

wow Rex....thats not very nice. I have a life.....quite lovely actually, but its fun to hang out here and talk to people from all over the world. The fact that some of the members are well...."adults" has nothing to do with their lives...no matter how full or empty they might be. The age range is very wide. Like 13- 69 or something. Thats excellent I think!







actually, i'm 12. :sniper:

Hee Hee ... and he was an adult at the time. :D

Al Gore is an adult???!!! :eek:

When I was very young, about 9 or 10, I think, I went with some people to see a live performance of "Peter Pan." At that time a very talented young woman named Mary Martin was playing Peter Pan and did an outstanding job.

When she sang "Never Grow Up," I thought about how serious and stodgy all the adults in my life seemed to be and concluded that was NOT for me! I made the decision to never "grow up" in the sense of becoming someone who could never play and laugh and truly enjoy being alive.

I have been able to maintain that attitude to the present day, and God willing, will be the very same way to the day I die ( which will, hopefully, be a much later date than it would have been if I had forgotten how to "play" ).

Life is to be lived, and lived with joy and love and laughter. If, God forbid, I ever lose this approach to life, I sincerely hope someone shoots my stupid azz!

When I was very young, about 9 or 10, I think, I went with some people to see a live performance of "Peter Pan." At that time a very talented young woman named Mary Martin was playing Peter Pan and did an outstanding job.

When she sang "Never Grow Up," I thought about how serious and stodgy all the adults in my life seemed to be and concluded that was NOT for me! I made the decision to never "grow up" in the sense of becoming someone who could never play and laugh and truly enjoy being alive.

I have been able to maintain that attitude to the present day, and God willing, will be the very same way to the day I die ( which will, hopefully, be a much later date than it would have been if I had forgotten how to "play" ).

Life is to be lived, and lived with joy and love and laughter. If, God forbid, I ever lose this approach to life, I sincerely hope someone shoots my stupid azz!

Its always scary to hear someone else tell your life story...

When I was about 9 or so, I saw Peter Pan as well, however I saw the movie version of Mary Martin's performance. I was touched by the show as well, and I have long held that life is best lived with that same childlike joy that we associate with the young.

**laughs** Come to think of it, I've always thought highly of Eutrusca, I guess its because he represents an older version of me. ;)

Its always scary to hear someone else tell your life story...

When I was about 9 or so, I saw Peter Pan as well, however I saw the movie version of Mary Martin's performance. I was touched by the show as well, and I have long held that life is best lived with that same childlike joy that we associate with the young.

**laughs** Come to think of it, I've always thought highly of Eutrusca, I guess its because he represents an older version of me. ;)

GOOD FOR YOU!!! :D

I am flattered! You honor me. :)

If Peter Pan meant that much to you guys, you should go see Finding Neverland, if you haven't yet. I'll plug anything with Johnny Depp in it...lol. It's the story of J.M. Barrie and what inspired him to write Peter Pan. It's a beautiful, magical story and it gives you that same sense of childlike joy. It does have it's sad bits too though.

If Peter Pan meant that much to you guys, you should go see Finding Neverland, if you haven't yet. I'll plug anything with Johnny Depp in it...lol. It's the story of J.M. Barrie and what inspired him to write Peter Pan. It's a beautiful, magical story and it gives you that same sense of childlike joy. It does have it's sad bits too though.Saw it, loved it! :D

When I was very young, about 9 or 10, I think, I went with some people to see a live performance of "Peter Pan." At that time a very talented young woman named Mary Martin was playing Peter Pan and did an outstanding job.

When she sang "Never Grow Up," I thought about how serious and stodgy all the adults in my life seemed to be and concluded that was NOT for me! I made the decision to never "grow up" in the sense of becoming someone who could never play and laugh and truly enjoy being alive.

I have been able to maintain that attitude to the present day, and God willing, will be the very same way to the day I die ( which will, hopefully, be a much later date than it would have been if I had forgotten how to "play" ).

Life is to be lived, and lived with joy and love and laughter. If, God forbid, I ever lose this approach to life, I sincerely hope someone shoots my stupid azz!

Etrusca!! it's because of you i still have faith in old (no offense) people and it's because of you that i think the exclusive bastards who started this thread should be the ones to leave, not the adults. rock on, man. :p

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

They're trying to get into our heads to see what makes us tick, and then, when we least expect it the old people will STRIKE! THEY WILL BRAINWASH US ALL I TELL U!

seriously? i have no idea, ask someone old. :D

Etrusca!! it's because of you i still have faith in old (no offense) people and it's because of you that i think the exclusive bastards who started this thread should be the ones to leave, not the adults. rock on, man. :p

You flatter me greatly, my friend. It's at least partially because of younger guys like you that I stick with NS General. At two different points I was ready to leave, but decided I might in some small way be of benefit.

I had to laugh when I read the last line of your post. One of my best friends, who happens to be African American, called me "COWD" ( "Cool, old, white dude!" ) LOL!

Peace out, Dude! :D

Um, because some adults you know actually still like to have fun every once in a while?

Besides that, playing NS has been like taking a class in writing a novel. It's given me inspiration to actually come up with an idea and start to write one. It's also given me the opportunity to expand my knowledge base by learning about things I either knew nothing about previously or I hadn't learned anything about in nearly 20 years. It's also given me the opportunity to get to know people from different backgrounds and walks of life and find some common ground with people who were different from me at first glance.

Threads like this one really rile me up.

I'm a child at heart, and everyone in my family knows it. And if anyone's read a lot of my immature posts on here, I'm sure you know it as well. XD

I love to play, and NationStates is one of my favorite forums to frequent, even if I don't post much. (aren't I just so thoughtful?!?)

I'm also an adult fan of Lego as well. I adore card games, and love roleplaying. Yeah, most people my age (26) would be starting families, but not me. XD

Asylum Nova

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't seem to me like anything anyone past college would be into. I mean, it's a bit like Neopets with countries. Why would adults do NS? I thought by then people actually get lives. I know if I don't I'm going to be sorely disappointed.
first of all, you dont sound like you will ever have many friends anyhow, so dont worry. second of all, you must not realize the addictive power of the ns general forum.

I am sick and tired of kids who weren't born when I left school thinking the whole damn web belongs to them for chatting and 'msging' and games. Get off my bandwidth, you nasty selfish spoiled little runts and let me get on with what I do and enjoy in peace, without fear of being labelled a paedophile or a lifeless nerd. :headbang:
I still believe that Internet users should have to pass a basic competence test, spelling test and etiquette test before being granted a license to get online. Just like you do for using a TV in UK or for driving a car.
Now buzz off and drink some Sunny Delight. Pest. :mp5:

I still believe that Internet users should have to pass a basic competence test, spelling test and etiquette test before being granted a license to get online. Just like you do for using a TV in UK or for driving a car.

Who conned you into taking a basic competence/spelling/ettiquette test before granting you a TV licence?

LOL go Bonzo go!

The myth that you have to turn in to a dusty old dullard is based on old survival issues. We're not fighting the elements anymore. We have free time. Growing up is no longer useful beyond going to work often enough to keep everyone fed and healthy and educated.

You don't have to give up smiling just because you turn 18.

Al Gore is an adult???!!! :eek:

Well ... he was at the time.

The myth that you have to turn in to a dusty old dullard is based on old survival issues. We're not fighting the elements anymore. We have free time. Growing up is no longer useful beyond going to work often enough to keep everyone fed and healthy and educated.

You don't have to give up smiling just because you turn 18.

Yeah, so like ... peace out, Dude! :D

Well ... he was at the time.

OMG! You had to dig wayyy back to dredge up that one! :D

OMG! You had to dig wayyy back to dredge up that one! :D

Nah ... it's just back 1 page for me :) I'm set to 40.

Nah ... it's just back 1 page for me :) I'm set to 40.

Kewl. Me ... I'm set to self-destruct in fifteen seconds ... and the door is locked! Mwahahahaha! :D

So sorry we don't live up the original posters ideals of what we should all be like. What a dumbass! I was seriously addicted to NS there for a while, but my attentions have been drawn elsewhere for the last few weeks. Still, I have dropped in from time to time to read a few of the threads simply because they can be damned funny sometimes.

It's nice to have some place you can relaxe and not have to worry about the bullshit that fills up a real life grown up day. And then, when you go to your happy place, threads like this impact into your reality. Just solidifies why I'm not here as much as I had been.

Who conned you into taking a basic competence/spelling/ettiquette test before granting you a TV licence?

Y'know, I thought it was a bit harsh... ;)