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Where's Jessussaves today? I could use a laugh.

Where's Jessussaves today? I could use a laugh.
Lifted bodily into heavan, as Muhammed before him?

Where's Jessussaves today? I could use a laugh.
Out telling 5 year old Muslim kids that they are going to hell (duh where any good Christian would be)

In goal for England?

Lifted bodily into heavan, as Muhammed before him?
Is that where they send religious zealots that I don't like?

It might be a bit early for him...either that or he is here in his non-troll incarnation....*looks around suspiciously*....

Did we ever decide if he was a troll or not?

Is that where they send religious zealots that I don't like?
i doubt it, but to be quite frank, i don't think your opinion gets taken too much into consideration of who gets into heaven. :D

i doubt it, but to be quite frank, i don't think your opinion gets taken too much into consideration of who gets into heaven. :D
You have yet to witness the heavenly powers of Drunken Commies I guess.

You have yet to witness the heavenly powers of Drunken Commies I guess.
no kidding ... he sent me to hell once for stealing his icecream

Of course he did. Rolled a Natural 20! :D

Having hot him-on-bagel secks. Silly christians deny gaining of pleasure from women.

You have yet to witness the heavenly powers of Drunken Commies I guess.
Guess not. Nope, I'm wrong. I guess it is where they send people you don't like. But how could you not like Muhammed? He's just so....huggable! :rolleyes:

Guess not. Nope, I'm wrong. I guess it is where they send people you don't like. But how could you not like Muhammed? He's just so....huggable! :rolleyes:
so was Buddha !

You have yet to witness the heavenly powers of Drunken Commies I guess.
I can turn wine into yellow snow!

I can turn wine into yellow snow!
how bout yellow snow into wine?

Sad that you feel so inadequate that you must try to mock others religious beliefs.

Sad that you feel so inadequate that you must try to mock others religious beliefs.
Actually I feel more than adequate. I look down on his beleifs. They are primitive and offensive to many on this board.

how bout yellow snow into wine?

Don't they do that in California. Wait, no they can't. No snow.

Yellow snow is high in nitrogen and water. It's good for the grape vines. Yeah, I can turn yellow snow into wine.

Actually I feel more than adequate. I look down on his beleifs. They are primitive and offensive to many on this board.

interesting to look down on those who look down on you. it seems pretty patronising to claim that you can guaruntee salvation. besides didn't jesus die so EVERYBODY would get to heaven.saying that you have to follow a particular moral code to get there seems like dissin the big guy.

Where's Jessussaves today? I could use a laugh.

Probably Jesus Saved him from you Evil Sinners!!!! :D

Here Boy!! Come get the stick!

Yeah.. where is he anyway? I guess you guys must have teased him out of the forums.. Aih.. the little easily influenced mind.

Sad that you feel so inadequate that you must try to mock others religious beliefs.

I think there just mocking one particular person who is more than a tad annoying even for a catholic like me

interesting to look down on those who look down on you. it seems pretty patronising to claim that you can guaruntee salvation. besides didn't jesus die so EVERYBODY would get to heaven.saying that you have to follow a particular moral code to get there seems like dissin the big guy.
Our christian experts (like Dr. Servus Dei and Dr. Neo cannen) say that we are going to burn in hell anyway.

I think he's playing center field for the Sox.

The people thet are ggoing to hell sound more interesting anyway. I mean, look at all the cool people on NS I get to share hell with. And if people like Commando2 and Servus Dei(sp?) are in heaven, I don't want to be there. And Fred Phelps and Jerry Falwell. Heaven sounds like Dullsville. In hell we'll get to smoke and drink the chemicals of our choice. We can have sex with who we want to. If people annoy us we can send them to heaven. Gee, you dull and stupid. Go to heaven and quit ruining our party. :p

Of course he did. Rolled a Natural 20! :D
Heh, I like that. D&D rules!

You will burn in Hell for that!

Sorry, just felt the need to fill Jesussaves' place ther. Can I come to this place of alcohol and sex?

The people thet are ggoing to hell sound more interesting anyway. I mean, look at all the cool people on NS I get to share hell with. And if people like Commando2 and Servus Dei(sp?) are in heaven, I don't want to be there. And Fred Phelps and Jerry Falwell. Heaven sounds like Dullsville. In hell we'll get to smoke and drink the chemicals of our choice. We can have sex with who we want to. If people annoy us we can send them to heaven. Gee, you dull and stupid. Go to heaven and quit ruining our party. :p
Bitchkitten, I know you might not like me raining on your parade, but in the Bible, it's the Kingdom of God that's described like a party (see Matthew 22:1-14).
The alternative is described as being outside said party "with weeping and gnashing of teeth", or being in agony (see Revelation 20:14-15, the "lake of fire"), or being dead (Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord"). Hell is a bit like all three of these metaphors, but I don't think it would be fun.
Of course, if you don't accept the Christian model of existence after this life, then why are you using words like "heaven" and "hell"?

Bitchkitten, I know you might not like me raining on your parade, but in the Bible, it's the Kingdom of God that's described like a party (see Matthew 22:1-14).
The alternative is described as being outside said party "with weeping and gnashing of teeth", or being in agony (see Revelation 20:14-15, the "lake of fire"), or being dead (Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord"). Hell is a bit like all three of these metaphors, but I don't think it would be fun.
Of course, if you don't accept the Christian model of existence after this life, then why are you using words like "heaven" and "hell"?
Just commenting on how the company in “hell” would be more interesting then that of heaven irregardless of what physical attributes you place on it (though I thought traditionally by the bible hell was just defined as a place with an absence of god … hell being just the state of not being with your creator (maybe I got confused))

I can't rely on a description of hell given by the other side. That's kind of like taking Kim Jong Il's description of the USA as fact.

Just commenting on how the company in “hell” would be more interesting then that of heaven irregardless of what physical attributes you place on it (though I thought traditionally by the bible hell was just defined as a place with an absence of god … hell being just the state of not being with your creator (maybe I got confused))
Who says you have company in hell? Since social interaction is a good thing created by God, what if hell includes being entirely alone, forever?

Hell isn't really defined in the Bible. The three metaphors I listed represent three general categories of description, none of which really make an exact definition. They do give an overall impression, though.

Who says you have company in hell? Since social interaction is a good thing created by God, what if hell includes being entirely alone, forever?

Hell isn't really defined in the Bible. The three metaphors I listed represent three general categories of description, none of which really make an exact definition. They do give an overall impression, though.
But if we are removing everything created by god before sending us to hell (assuming there is a god – and as a standard definition everything HE created is good) it would be complete nonexistence

Bitchkitten, I know you might not like me raining on your parade, but in the Bible, it's the Kingdom of God that's described like a party (see Matthew 22:1-14).
The alternative is described as being outside said party "with weeping and gnashing of teeth", or being in agony (see Revelation 20:14-15, the "lake of fire"), or being dead (Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord"). Hell is a bit like all three of these metaphors, but I don't think it would be fun.
Of course, if you don't accept the Christian model of existence after this life, then why are you using words like "heaven" and "hell"?

I reserve the right to pick and chose the parts I want. Just like many christians. :p

I think he's playing center field for the Sox.

Yeah, I think pitchers and catchers report next week. He's probably busy packing.

I can't rely on a description of hell given by the other side. That's kind of like taking Kim Jong Il's description of the USA as fact.
Except that Kim Jong Il did not supposedly create the United States.
Sorry, just had to throw that one in there.
Either way, I'm done with these kinds of discussions. It's all flamebait waiting to happen.

But if we are removing everything created by god before sending us to hell (assuming there is a god – and as a standard definition everything HE created is good) it would be complete nonexistence
C.S. Lewis suggested in several of his books that hell is, indeed, as near to non-existence as you can get, that all would remain of a person would be a faint shadow, the warping of a nature whose central elements have been removed. Being in hell would be a state of post-existence, of having-been, with just enough consciousness to feel the pain of what one has lost.

Sounds fun, eh?

P.S. Gotta go, it's been great talking with y'all!

Hell is a place where you burn and suffer and scream forever. It looks like most of the people in this group are going there. Jesus loves you and doesn't want to send you there. Let him into your life before its to late

Hell is a place where you burn and suffer and scream forever. It looks like most of the people in this group are going there. Jesus loves you and doesn't want to send you there. Let him into your life before its to late
So we are back to a non omnipotent god

So we are back to a non omnipotent god
Theres only one god. He is Jesus not omnipothent.

C.S. Lewis suggested in several of his books that hell is, indeed, as near to non-existence as you can get, that all would remain of a person would be a faint shadow, the warping of a nature whose central elements have been removed. Being in hell would be a state of post-existence, of having-been, with just enough consciousness to feel the pain of what one has lost.

Sounds fun, eh?

P.S. Gotta go, it's been great talking with y'all!
Yeah I remember reading that … though if god created everything and everything is good he created your consciousness that should be going too if he is taking away all that is good (though also brings up the issue if he is taking away your physical being how do you perceive pain in the first place)

Theres only one god. He is Jesus not omnipothent.
So you don’t believe in the trinity? If not then brings the idea back about Jesus being a sinner because of original sin

Theres only one god. He is Jesus not omnipothent.
You do know that "omnipotent" is an adjective, right?
It means that something can do anything.

Hell is a place where you burn and suffer and scream forever. It looks like most of the people in this group are going there. Jesus loves you and doesn't want to send you there. Let him into your life before its to late

GIMMICK POSTER.

Hell is a place where you burn and suffer and scream forever. It looks like most of the people in this group are going there. Jesus loves you and doesn't want to send you there. Let him into your life before its to late

And there's me thinking u'd actually given up on converting people. I'm Catholic and I'm glad theres an big ass load of water between us, condemn me to hell just shows how much u know

And there's me thinking u'd actually given up on converting people. I'm Catholic and I'm glad theres an big ass load of water between us, condemn me to hell just shows how much u know
Catholics are pagans who worship Mary as a goddess and pray to saints and to a pope who they think is god. I cant send you to hell. Your blasfemy is going to do that.

You do know that "omnipotent" is an adjective, right?
It means that something can do anything.
Jesus can do anything.

Jesussaves and ISEE don't get to come to the party either.

Jesus can do anything.
Well, you just said he wasn't omnipotent, so I figured I'd clear up the definition for you so we all knew who was talking about what here.

Jesus can do anything.
Originally Posted by Jesussaves
Hell is a place where you burn and suffer and scream forever. It looks like most of the people in this group are going there. Jesus loves you and doesn't want to send you there. Let him into your life before its to late

But you just said that he can not save you unless you choose to do so ... so you are more powerfull then god (your decision is)

But you just said that he can not save you unless you choose to do so ... so you are more powerfull then god (your decision is)
why should he help you if you don't let him

why should he help you if you don't let him
because he is not suposed to be petty like humans

If he does not help that makes him not all-loving

why should he help you if you don't let him
Why shouldn't he?

because he is not suposed to be petty like humans

If he does not help that makes him not all-loving
He loves you so he lets you call him into your life and save yourself.

"Catholics are pagans who worship Mary as a goddess and pray to saints and to a pope who they think is god. I cant send you to hell. Your blasfemy is going to do that."




I don't think the pope is a god, I believe he's the head of the Catholic Church. Just like the arch bishop of Canturbury is a leading figure in the Church of England. I don't worship Mary, I honor her as the saints because they have led lives of purpose for great sacrifice. No you can't SEND me to hell and I didn't ask you to I said CONDEMN me to hell which is all you seem to do to people.
And on a milder side note "blasphemy" is the word ure looking for. Damn a spelling correction from someone who can't spell "getaway" how Ironic

Why shouldn't he?
Because he loves you enough to make your own desicion

Because he loves you enough to make your own desicion
So he loves me enough to want me to go to hell?

Wow. Is this guy for real?

Wow. Is this guy for real?
I dont think we have figured that one out yet

Jesus loves you, now burn in hell for eternity. Ah, I love religion.

Wow. Is this guy for real?

probably not, but the again I'm a

"Catholics are pagans who worship Mary as a goddess and pray to saints and to a pope who they think is god. I cant send you to hell. Your blasfemy is going to do that."

Seriously thats easily the funniest thing I've heard all day

So wait, if Jesus loves me and I accept him into my life, will he love me enough to do stuff for me? Like, if some people were annoying me, would he smite them for me?

Religion is Bad. All Religious should be killed at once. WAR AGAINST RELIGION

Religion is Bad. All Religious should be killed at once. WAR AGAINST RELIGION
Yeah cause that’s real tolerant of other peoples beliefs :p

Religion is Bad. All Religious should be killed at once. WAR AGAINST RELIGION

:rolleyes: Troll

Religion is Bad. All Religious should be killed at once. WAR AGAINST RELIGION
Where's my local recruiting office? I want to enlist.

Yeah cause that’s real tolerant of other peoples beliefs :p
Some beleifs shouldn't be tolerated. For instance, Nazi beleifs should be fought. They should have the protection of free speech, but those opposed to them should be ever present to argue them into silence.

Some beleifs shouldn't be tolerated. For instance, Nazi beleifs should be fought. They should have the protection of free speech, but those opposed to them should be ever present to argue them into silence.
While I have my issues with religion … I still don’t find them (most of them) disruptive enough to warrant not letting them speak there piece

While I have my issues with religion … I still don’t find them (most of them) disruptive enough to warrant not letting them speak there piece
My post wasn't clear. I didn't say they shouldn't be allowed to speak, only that those who disagree should constantly challenge them and fight them in the field of ideas.

My post wasn't clear. I didn't say they shouldn't be allowed to speak, only that those who disagree should constantly challenge them and fight them in the field of ideas.
True the field of idea's but tollerance (in that I mean not killing them for their idea's) would be ... civil?

Lol, I dunno where that crazy poster is