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http://home.tiac.net/~cri/1998/france.html

The funny part is that it's not all inaccurate. After all, no matter how much garlic you put on it, a snail is still just a slug with a shell on its back.

*yawn*
At least the title is accurate. Ugly American.

Har har har :rolleyes:
Why is it that people like you are the first to complain about being bashed when the slightest bit of criticism comes your way while finding nothing wrong in posting "humour" of the lowest sort?

Har har har :rolleyes:
Why is it that people like you are the first to complain about being bashed when the slightest bit of criticism comes your way while finding nothing wrong in posting "humour" of the lowest sort?
He's an American. Don't expect to much of him.

http://home.tiac.net/~cri/1998/france.html

The funny part is that it's not all inaccurate. After all, no matter how much garlic you put on it, a snail is still just a slug with a shell on its back.

@#%)(*&@!#% FROGS! ;)

Har har har :rolleyes:
Why is it that people like you are the first to complain about being bashed when the slightest bit of criticism comes your way while finding nothing wrong in posting "humour" of the lowest sort?

Why is it that when I complain about humorous posts, other people say I should get a sense of humor?

Or, why should I not resort to posting humor?

Or, why is it that when humor is posted that I disagree with, it's great, and if I post the same kind of humor (but on the other end of the political viewpoint), it's considered "the lowest sort"?

Bias?

He's an American. Don't expect to much of him.
I'm just keeping up my reputation as a constant provider of free new bicycles to Europe.

RFLMAORGHLMOAROLFALALAHAHAHAUGH.

Now that is funny shit.

I'm just keeping up my reputation as a constant provider of free new bicycles to Europe.
If Americans would actually use some of those they wouldn't have such a problem with fatness.

http://home.tiac.net/~cri/1998/france.html

The funny part is that it's not all inaccurate. After all, no matter how much garlic you put on it, a snail is still just a slug with a shell on its back.

Seiously though, whats your problem with the French? Its easy to find faults with any nation if you look close enough so why pick on France?

If Americans would actually use some of those they wouldn't have such a problem with fatness.

I ride my mountain bike almost everywhere, and not only do I keep in decent shape, I thoroughly enjoy it! :D

Seiously though, whats your problem with the French? Its easy to find faults with any nation if you look close enough so why pick on France?
Well that is an easy one. Jealousy.
France is certainly the greatest country on earth. It is why most people hate the french. They invented human rights and all our modern way of life and today they are the most socially advanced nation on earth.
People can't accept to live behind them, that's all.
Bashing them is a way to feel better about your country.

If Americans would actually use some of those they wouldn't have such a problem with fatness.

I'm not fat. Last I checked, I weigh 79 kilograms. I am 177 cm in height.
I can run 12 miles at a steady pace of 6 minutes 15 seconds per mile (you do the metric conversion on that one).
And that is when I'm carrying 25 kilos in a pack.
I'm 44 years old.
I ride bicycles quite a bit - my town has an excellent system of bike paths through and around it - and quite a few of its residents ride - to and from work - not just for fun.

Go ahead. Generalize. Zepp says that generalization isn't a valid form of argument.

Seiously though, whats your problem with the French? Its easy to find faults with any nation if you look close enough so why pick on France?

I think it's because bigotry is natural in some humans, and it's no longer accepted to hate blacks or jews, etc. so they pick on the French. They just need someone to hate. :rolleyes:

Or, why is it that when humor is posted that I disagree with, it's great, and if I post the same kind of humor (but on the other end of the political viewpoint), it's considered "the lowest sort"?

Bias?
If you would care to show me where i condone this kind of ignorant and overbearing belittlement disguising as humour, that would be kind. I do not. Which is why i find Von Witzleben's comments like "He's an American. Don't expect to much of him." equally despicable. I happen to have friends and people i care about on both sides of the pond and dont like overgeneralisations. If that makes me biased in your eyes, so be it.

If you would care to show me where i condone this kind of ignorant and overbearing belittlement disguising as humour, that would be kind. I do not. Which is why i find Von Witzleben's comments like "He's an American. Don't expect to much of him." equally despicable. I happen to have friends and people i care about on both sides of the pond and dont like overgeneralisations. If that makes me biased in your eyes, so be it.

I'll have to find the thread (it might not have been you). But I complained about another thread yesterday, and people said that I should lighten up.

Well, it's been my experience that when I post similar humor, the same people take great offense.

You only get out of this world what you put into it, Legs.

Shall I expect to see you stop whingeing on about America-bashing, then?

You only get out of this world what you put into it, Legs.

Shall I expect to see you stop whingeing on about America-bashing, then?

as long as I can bash the French, Dobbs. Who are well worth bashing.

I would bash the Netherlands, but I've had it explained to me that bicycle theft is an ordinary, almost daily event for some people, so I shouldn't be upset for having lost some there.

He's an American. Don't expect to much of him.


You're German, so I shouldn't expect humanism from you.

You're German, so I shouldn't expect humanism from you.

It's entirely possible, you know, that Von could be Dutch.

OF course, the best part of that site is that it was clearly written by a Brit, and then plagerised by an American and slightly modified to serve their own purposes.


This fact is clear because no american refers to trucks as "lorries", and few would put a worry about a shortage of Scotch at the top of the heap...


<equally gratuitous american bash in reprisal>
Damn americans are too damn lazy to think up their own insults.... or too ignorant to know that much about another country...
</equally gratuitous american bash in reprisal>

:D

OF course, the best part of that site is that it was clearly written by a Brit, and then plagerised by an American and slightly modified to serve their own purposes.


This fact is clear because no american refers to trucks as "lorries", and few would put a worry about a shortage of Scotch at the top of the heap...


<equally gratuitous american bash in reprisal>
Damn americans are too damn lazy to think up their own insults.... or too ignorant to know that much about another country...
</equally gratuitous american bash in reprisal>

:D

Hmm. We should take a count of the countries you've been to (not as a tourist, but lived there), and how many I've been to.

Not that we could generalize from there about the relative travels of Canadians and Americans.

Why is it that when I complain about humorous posts, other people say I should get a sense of humor?

Or, why should I not resort to posting humor?

Or, why is it that when humor is posted that I disagree with, it's great, and if I post the same kind of humor (but on the other end of the political viewpoint), it's considered "the lowest sort"?

Bias?
Yes, you are biased. Thank you for admitting it. Aren't you the one getting all frothy at the mouth about people saying bad things about America in your other thread? What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Quit being a hypocrite.

(it might not have been you)
Now that is true. ;)

Yes, you are biased. Thank you for admitting it. Aren't you the one getting all frothy at the mouth about people saying bad things about America in your other thread? What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Quit being a hypocrite.

Well-said Sinuhue. Well-said indeed.

At least theres no Great Britain bashing

Hmm. We should take a count of the countries you've been to (not as a tourist, but lived there), and how many I've been to.

Not that we could generalize from there about the relative travels of Canadians and Americans.

So, you are suggesting that YOU wrote it, posted it on your site, and deliberately included British idiom to make it more appealing to the transatlantic crowd?

Gosh!

That explains the crack to stay home and vacation in Miami then....


OF course, the fact that I actually picked out that idiom might just give you a slight clue as to my travel habits - not that that has any relation to the matter at hand as it isn't a contest, nor do I think that you are claiming to be the author.

http://www.franksmyth.com/clients/FrankSmyth/frankS.nsf/0/d261b03aec46b48185256b7b00790670?OpenDocument

Well that is an easy one. Jealousy.
France is certainly the greatest country on earth. It is why most people hate the french. They invented human rights and all our modern way of life and today they are the most socially advanced nation on earth.
People can't accept to live behind them, that's all.
Bashing them is a way to feel better about your country.
? The french revolution started in 1789, the same year that the constitution was ratified and it included the original Bill of Rights. How did they invent human rights again?

and few would put a worry about a shortage of Scotch at the top of the heap...

I know of five separate people who would, 2 in my family. Athough they really only care for a good single malt, but still.

When sombody posts something along these lines about America it's funny right? Well it's just as funny when the French are the butt of the joke. Remember the map of the world as Americans see it? We all got a good laugh. I found it humorous too. All of a sudden when someone other than the USA is being joked about it's a symptom of American jealousy. In closing FUCK YOU IF YOU CAN'T TAKE A JOKE

? The french revolution started in 1789, the same year that the constitution was ratified and it included the original Bill of Rights. How did they invent human rights again?
When they wrote the declaration of human rights. The Bill of rights is not the declaration of human rights.

When sombody posts something along these lines about America it's funny right? Well it's just as funny when the French are the butt of the joke. Remember the map of the world as Americans see it? We all got a good laugh. I found it humorous too. All of a sudden when someone other than the USA is being joked about it's a symptom of American jealousy. In closing FUCK YOU IF YOU CAN'T TAKE A JOKE
FUCK YOU IF YOU DON'T GET SARCASM. I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR RANT I'M HAVING MUCH FUN THANK YOU. BTW THE FRENCH KICK YOUR SORRY BUTTS AT FOOTBALL. YES IT IS CALLED FOOTBALL YOU CAN CALL IT DICK BECAUSE YOU SUCK AT IT IT IS STILL FOOTBALL.

French women don't shave their arm pits for christ sake!

Okay, i've bashed the French.

Now i'm proceding to tell the truths the (some) americans dont like to hear, in a thread near you!

Many of you have likely seen this, but I figured it would fit here:

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(French Military History)

Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.

Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when NOT led by a Frenchman."

Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars -- when fighting Italians.

Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.

Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flower pots as chapeaux.

The Dutch War - Tied.

War of the Augsburg League / King William's War / French and Indian War -Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved ever since.

American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."

French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.

The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu.

Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

War Against Greenpeace - Lost. 1985, the Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior prepares to sail for Moruroa Atoll for a major campaign against French nuclear testing. Agents of the DGSE [secret service] bomb and sink the ship in Auckland Harbor. I tree-hugger sans tree drowns. Six weeks later agents Prieur and Mafart plead guilty to charges of manslaughter and willful damage. They get sentences of 10 years and 7 years. French Prime Minister Fabius admits to state terrorism on TV.

War on Terrorism - France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in
a McDonald's.

FUCK YOU IF YOU DON'T GET SARCASM. I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR RANT I'M HAVING MUCH FUN THANK YOU. BTW THE FRENCH KICK YOUR SORRY BUTTS AT FOOTBALL. YES IT IS CALLED FOOTBALL YOU CAN CALL IT DICK BECAUSE YOU SUCK AT IT IT IS STILL FOOTBALL.
i didn't even know they had a team. how do they fit the helmets over their little floppy french hats. what are those things called? beres or something?

You know, it's funny. In France, this thread is called "Daily self-flagellation and -deprecation for the sake of the greater glory of America."

The French are better than the US at soccer? Wow, stop the presses!

Who doesn't know that?

France also beat England (well England gave away a game they should have won... led 2-1 verry late) fairly recently.

When sombody posts something along these lines about America it's funny right? Well it's just as funny when the French are the butt of the joke. Remember the map of the world as Americans see it? We all got a good laugh. I found it humorous too. All of a sudden when someone other than the USA is being joked about it's a symptom of American jealousy. In closing FUCK YOU IF YOU CAN'T TAKE A JOKE
Whether this is humourous or not is not the point...the point is that the original poster is notorious for getting really upset about people who 'bash' Americans, yet he goes and bashes others.

The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican....


Of Italian descent! :D

Whether this is humourous or not is not the point...the point is that the original poster is notorious for getting really upset about people who 'bash' Americans, yet he goes and bashes others.
Screw it. Bash everybody. Bash 'em into a bloody pulp. I think it's funny.

I`m getting tired of seeing this post....I will correct it again because your version is bias and not true consideing historical facts. You definetly have knowledge about history of war but lack the ability to view it in an unbias way. Let me show you what you forgot!!







Many of you have likely seen this, but I figured it would fit here:

------------------------------------------------------
(French Military History)

Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.

Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when NOT led by a Frenchman."How can you say mostly lost and after saqy they win..because in historical facts they did WIN

Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars -- when fighting Italians.

Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.

Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flower pots as chapeaux.

The Dutch War - Tied.

War of the Augsburg League / King William's War / French and Indian War -Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved ever since.

American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting." If they would have left you alone you would`nt even have a country today so say : Thank You!!!

French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French. As the Russian revolution , American Revolution......

The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer. One of the Greatess military achivement in the history of warfare...It`s one of the biggest Empire created in the modern world but lost also because of the Russian winter

The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline. Won they have the same right as you to declare a win. And it`s mostly the British and the Canadian who saved them not the American..they came late in the fight and with small numbers compare to the British.

World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song. They did win in the end and since they were part of the allies it count as a win cause they got back they`re country and fought for it.

War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu. You lost that one too...and with far more superior forces.

Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux. Please leave my Esquimaux alone and they are called "Inuit" not Esquimaux :)

War Against Greenpeace - Lost. 1985, the Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior prepares to sail for Moruroa Atoll for a major campaign against French nuclear testing. Agents of the DGSE [secret service] bomb and sink the ship in Auckland Harbor. I tree-hugger sans tree drowns. Six weeks later agents Prieur and Mafart plead guilty to charges of manslaughter and willful damage. They get sentences of 10 years and 7 years. French Prime Minister Fabius admits to state terrorism on TV.

War on Terrorism - France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in
a McDonald's. France keeping in mind the good of the world decided not to participate in a war not sanctioned by the UN and respect international law.

Geez guys, what's the big deal? It was funny! It handed out humourous comments at French, US, and even German people. It wasn't bashing anyone specifically. It did what many a good joke does - describes the world from a skewed perspective that makes sense if you think about it the right way.

If a guy did that as part of a standup routine at a comedy club, we'd all be laughing at the American tourists who move around in large groups for safety, wear brightly-coloured trousers, and shout at people in order to get then to understand English.

We'd also be chortling over escargot just being slugs with shells on their backs - because honestly, you agree, don't you? Weren't any of you tickled about the juxtaposition between France being a major arms exporter that surrenders as soon as Germany invades (which it apparently does on a regular basis)?

I think we all need to lighten up.

I admire the French government. At least in disagreeing with the Iraq war they represented their citizen's majority opinion. I wish some other European governments had the courage to do the same thing.

I admire the French government. At least in disagreeing with the Iraq war they represented their citizen's majority opinion. I wish some other European governments had the courage to do the same thing.

No, I think you missed the point, Borgoa.
The typical French citizen had an ethical and moral objection to war.
The French Government and corporations objected to the war because they were about to lose billions in illicit defense contracts and under the table oil deals that they held at the time.
That, and once again, it would be proven what useless crap the French were peddling as "top of the line" air defense equipment.

And if you believe that the French Government didn't have that foremost in their mind - if you believe that somehow the French Government was moral, just, and upright - then you're smoking the same dope that a lot of Americans are smoking who watch Fox.

At least theres no Great Britain bashing

That's because it's an undisputed fact that everyone hates the Brittish - even the Brittish; and since everyone hates the Brits nobody feels the need to shout about it - pretty much the same reason as to why there are no 'Aren't thumbs usefull for grabbing things!" threads.

So, you are suggesting that YOU wrote it, posted it on your site, and deliberately included British idiom to make it more appealing to the transatlantic crowd?

Gosh!

That explains the crack to stay home and vacation in Miami then....


OF course, the fact that I actually picked out that idiom might just give you a slight clue as to my travel habits - not that that has any relation to the matter at hand as it isn't a contest, nor do I think that you are claiming to be the author.
Everyone else I don't care, but you Zepp, this disappoints me. Just a quick glance can tell this:
That article is making fun of Americans as much, if not certainly more, than it is the French. Seems entirely possible to me it was written by a Brit to make fun of both. Disappointing that my countrymen can't tell their being made fun of? A little, but if that quality didn't exist here I would get beaten up a lot more, so I'll take it. But you, of all people, you should of seen that.

Say it ain't so, Zepp....sniffle.....

Maybe Zepp missed the last part:

A word of warning:
The consular services of the United States government are intended solely for the promotion of the interests of American businesses such as McDonald's, Pizza Hut and the Coca-Cola Corporation. In the event that you are the victim of a crime or serious injury involving at least the loss of a limb, report to the American Embassy between the hours of 5.l5 am and 5.20 am on a Tuesday or Wednesday, and a consular official who is supremely indifferent to your plight will give you a list of qualified dentists or something similarly useless.

Remember, no one ordered you to go abroad. Personally, we always take our holidays at Miami Beach, and you are advised to as well. Thank you and good luck.

When sombody posts something along these lines about America it's funny right? Well it's just as funny when the French are the butt of the joke. Remember the map of the world as Americans see it? We all got a good laugh. I found it humorous too. All of a sudden when someone other than the USA is being joked about it's a symptom of American jealousy. In closing FUCK YOU IF YOU CAN'T TAKE A JOKE
Acually I've seen Americans saying its jealousy nearly every time someone
bashes them.

It is funny(ish).

Acually I've seen Americans saying its jealousy nearly every time someone
bashes them.

It is funny(ish).
Quit hating my freedom you jealous foreigner.

Hey!

This is a threadjack!

I'm going to start listing great things that have come from France, and you can't stop me!

Delicatessen!

Breathless!

Hey!

This is a threadjack!

I'm going to start listing great things that have come from France, and you can't stop me!

Delicatessen!

And I'll jack it back - list things that suck that come from France -

the film "Le Weekend"

Chateaubriand with bearnaise sauce!

Breathless!
Considering the opening monologue/montage deal, this is a funny second choice.

Hey, now. Americans oughtn't cast stones regarding shitty movies. Need I say "Bats"? How about "Anaconda II"?

Nevertheless:

Shoot the Piano Player!

The Three Musketeers!

Truffles!

French Band Air!

Daft Punk!

Les Rythmes Digitales!

Jaques Yves Cousteau!

Jean Reno!

Quit hating my freedom you jealous foreigner.
Quit hating my freedom you jealous foreigner.

Hey, now. Americans oughtn't cast stones regarding shitty movies. Need I say "Bats"? How about "Anaconda II"?

Nevertheless:

Shoot the Piano Player!

Americans know they make mostly crap movies. But to the French, everything is a fine French film done by a master of the art.

And now...

I thank France for Bridget Bardot when she was younger...

and I hate France for allowing her to continue to occasionally display her idiocy.

Jean Reno!
Jean Reno is cool!!! Crimson rivers was great. And Wasabi hilariouse.

Quit hating my freedom you jealous foreigner.
Silly foreigner, everybody knows only Americans have freedom.

I`m getting tired of seeing this post....I will correct it again because your version is bias and not true consideing historical facts. You definetly have knowledge about history of war but lack the ability to view it in an unbias way. Let me show you what you forgot!!

The English beat the crap out of the French all throughout the middle ages... that much is common knowledge. They held much of France in their possession. They left the hundred years war STILL with parts of France in English possession.

William I was a Norman... who were Danish vikings. Hugh Capet was truly French; William the Conqueror wasn't. (how long had the Normans been in France... 100-150 years? Was it Rolf the Ganger who took them south? I forget which one of William's ancestors moved that group of vikings to France)

I'm not fat. Last I checked, I weigh 79 kilograms. I am 177 cm in height.
I can run 12 miles at a steady pace of 6 minutes 15 seconds per mile (you do the metric conversion on that one).
And that is when I'm carrying 25 kilos in a pack.
I'm 44 years old.
I ride bicycles quite a bit - my town has an excellent system of bike paths through and around it - and quite a few of its residents ride - to and from work - not just for fun.

Go ahead. Generalize. Zepp says that generalization isn't a valid form of argument.


Air Assault?

You sound like a soldier or a Marine

Americans know they make mostly crap movies. But to the French, everything is a fine French film done by a master of the art.

Nice generalization. I've met Jean-Pierre Jeunet. Friendly, humble dude, and he assumed full responsibility for the artless catastrophe that was Alien IV. Meanwhile, anyone who ever listened to the director's commentary to Starship Troopers II knows full well that the masterminds behind American bombs are universally, to the last man, without pretense or affectation.

Chateau-nef-du-pape!

Silly foreigner, everybody knows only Americans have freedom.
Oh shit yeah! I forgot! Back to the slave mines with me!


Hey where the hell did I get a computer I'm a lousy forgiener! :p :D

Baguettes!

Brie!

Airbus!

Air Assault?

You sound like a soldier or a Marine

Yes, I was in the infantry from 1987 to 1991. And I still run with a pack.

It's cheaper than buying a membership at a gym, and the town I live in is criss-crossed with numerous paved trails - it's a great place to live.

No, I think you missed the point, Borgoa.
The typical French citizen had an ethical and moral objection to war.
The French Government and corporations objected to the war because they were about to lose billions in illicit defense contracts and under the table oil deals that they held at the time.
That, and once again, it would be proven what useless crap the French were peddling as "top of the line" air defense equipment.

And if you believe that the French Government didn't have that foremost in their mind - if you believe that somehow the French Government was moral, just, and upright - then you're smoking the same dope that a lot of Americans are smoking who watch Fox.

I'm not so cynical. There were many other countries who opposed the war, I believe the Americans singled out France because of their UN security council membership - which gave their opposition more strength and made it harder to ignore.

Totally agree with your point about the Fox news channel - although it does have comedy value.

Barbarella!

Hey, now. Americans oughtn't cast stones regarding shitty movies. Need I say "Bats"? How about "Anaconda II"?

Nevertheless:

Shoot the Piano Player!
I don't know if you where directing this at me, but not a lot of critical reading all the way 'round. I was referencing the text of the movie (you've seen it, right? You're not just name dropping...)
You Americans are dumb. You admire Lafayette and Maurice Chevalier. They're the dumbest of all Frenchmen.

[extolling the virtues of his country]If you don't like the sea... and don't care for the mountains... and don't like the big city either... go hang yourself!

Even Patricia Franchini gets in a hit (as the american)
When the French say a second, they mean five minutes.

Seeing as that film is about a idealistic stary eyed american and a nationalist french theif, it is an interesting and humurous choice for your second item to list.

But you would know that if you wheren't just gain saying. Cause you saw the movie, so you'd know....cause just gainsaying would be silly...

I don't know if you where directing this at me, but not a lot of critical reading all the way 'round. I was referencing the text of the movie (you've seen it, right? You're not just name dropping...)

No, this wasn't aimed at you. This was aimed at the guy who started naming shitty French movies. I was just reminding him that Hollywood is kind of a glass house in that department.

I wasn't trying for any thematic connection. Just listing good French stuff. (And yeah, I saw it when it was rereleased around 1999, on the big screen even!)

Le Samourai!

Hey, now. Americans oughtn't cast stones regarding shitty movies. Need I say "Bats"? How about "Anaconda II"?

Nevertheless:

Shoot the Piano Player!

hey, come on... they had enough sense not to name the sequel "Anaconda II"

of course they still gave it a sofa king retarded name anyway: "Anacondas"

LMAO! How's that for creativity!

I`m getting tired of seeing this post....I will correct it again because your version is bias and not true consideing historical facts. You definetly have knowledge about history of war but lack the ability to view it in an unbias way. Let me show you what you forgot!!
you have a bias as well, everyone does. Every one views history from their own perspective. "History is written by the victor" never forget it.

Originally Posted by Frangland
Many of you have likely seen this, but I figured it would fit here:

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(French Military History)

Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.

Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when NOT led by a Frenchman."How can you say mostly lost and after saqy they win..because in historical facts they did WIN. define win, England still had portions of their country in the end, but yeah your pretty much right

Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars -- when fighting Italians.

Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.

Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flower pots as chapeaux.

The Dutch War - Tied.

War of the Augsburg League / King William's War / French and Indian War -Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved ever since.

American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting." If they would have left you alone you would`nt even have a country today so say : Thank You!!! Possibly, but we also were receiving help from spain. And by the time we were receiving help in large quantities from france, the war was largely won. You helped us shorten it yes, win it no.

French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French. As the Russian revolution , American Revolution...... Russian Revolution yes, American Revolution

The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer. One of the Greatess military achivement in the history of warfare...It`s one of the biggest Empire created in the modern world but lost also because of the Russian winter.

The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline. Won they have the same right as you to declare a win. And it`s mostly the British and the Canadian who saved them not the American..they came late in the fight and with small numbers compare to the British. Fair enough that we didn't contribute. But remember that germany was fighting a war on two fronts against 4 or so nations not defending their soil w/ 2 other countries.

World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song. They did win in the end and since they were part of the allies it count as a win cause they got back they`re country and fought for it. Yeah and we also just handed them the privilege of taking Paris when British, Canadian, Polish and American Forces Contributed more. Lets not forget that the largest army in Europe with the most tanks in Europe not to mention they were supplemented by the large British Expeditionary Force. And yet they hid smug in their safeness behind their Fixed Fortifications. And also moved a large amount of their forces into Belgium farther forward then they needed to be. Now explain to me how Poland Held off Germany almost as long with Antiquated equipment( they still had Horse Cav for christs sake) and while being slammed from the East by the Soviet Union?

War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu. You lost that one too...and with far more superior forces.

Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux. Please leave my Esquimaux alone and they are called "Inuit" not Esquimaux

War Against Greenpeace - Lost. 1985, the Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior prepares to sail for Moruroa Atoll for a major campaign against French nuclear testing. Agents of the DGSE [secret service] bomb and sink the ship in Auckland Harbor. I tree-hugger sans tree drowns. Six weeks later agents Prieur and Mafart plead guilty to charges of manslaughter and willful damage. They get sentences of 10 years and 7 years. French Prime Minister Fabius admits to state terrorism on TV.

War on Terrorism - France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in
a McDonald's. France keeping in mind the good of the world decided not to participate in a war not sanctioned by the UN and respect international law


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