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on these forums anyways. i'm kinda curious, i'll be posting a poll shortly, but there are all these threads about which religion and since christians seem to be the majority here, let's see how you guys devide up.

and i will be including disputed christian faiths as well, such as mormonism, jehovah's witness, catholic et c.

Denominations don't mean shit.

Denominations don't mean shit.

Thats very mature and constructive :rolleyes:

catholics, baptists, or universal unitarians.

Thats very mature and constructive :rolleyes:

It may not be, but it's true.

Add non-denominational. Erase jehovah's witness, it isn't even Christian.

catholics, baptists, or universal unitarians.
i didn't even know universal unitarianism was a popular denomination. oops. shall i expect a large amount of "other" votes then?

i didn't even know universal unitarianism was a popular denomination. oops. shall i expect a large amount of "other" votes then?
I don't think it is, really.

Catholics are the largest denomination IRL, I think in NS, too.

Denominations don't mean shit.
how so?

considering how often people in one denomination claim that the others are not doing things right... some denominations are different enough to be considered another religion.

Add non-denominational. Erase jehovah's witness, it isn't even Christian.
non-denominational is other.

jehovah's witnesses are as much christians as catholics and baptists. they all believe in jesus. if you believe in christ, then in my books, you're a christian so calm the fuck down.

and if anything is not chrsitian, it's the last option on the poll intended for us godless heathens. well, the heathens with gods too, i suppose.

non-denominational is other.

jehovah's witnesses are as much christians as catholics and baptists. they all believe in jesus. if you believe in christ, then in my books, you're a christian so calm the fuck down.

and if anything is not chrsitian, it's the last option on the poll intended for us godless heathens. well, the heathens with gods too, i suppose.
Many Hindu's believed Jesus existed. That's about the only similarity betwoon JW and Christians.

how so?

considering how often people in one denomination claim that the others are not doing things right... some denominations are different enough to be considered another religion.

It doesn't matter. If They believe in God, and believe that Jesus died on the cross for their sins, they are Christian. Everything else is trivial, and doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. If They believe in God, and believe that Jesus died on the cross for their sins, they are Christian. Everything else is trivial, and doesn't matter.
so jehovah's witnesses are christian then. thank you.

so jehovah's witnesses are christian then. thank you.

You missed the point. They can be Christian, sure, but as long as they believe those two points, it doesn't matter.

Many Hindu's believed Jesus existed. That's about the only similarity betwoon JW and Christians.
are you sure they don't believe in krishna rather than christ?

and believing that a man existed is different than believing he was the son of god or what have you. hell, muslims have a whole story about what happened to jesus.

You missed the point. They can be Christian, sure, but as long as they believe those two points, it doesn't matter.
but you said they weren't christian.

and i will be including disputed christian faiths as well, such as mormonism, jehovah's witness, catholic et c.

Because Catholicism is so disputed :rolleyes:

But I'm a Lutheran. I guess I might have fallen under the "evangelical" category, but I don't really preach.

Because Catholicism is so disputed :rolleyes:
ask the baptists about that one...

ask the baptists about that one...
I'm a Baptist, and I think Catholics are close enough :)

I'm a Baptist, and I think Catholics are close enough :)
i used to belong to a message board dominated by baptists who would have rants about how catholics weren't christian and all that.

i used to belong to a message board dominated by baptists who would have rants about how catholics weren't christian and all that.
Message boards say a lot of things.

Message boards say a lot of things.
the baptist mods and preachers who visited the site also said the same things.

and let's not even get started on jack chick...

Evangelism is not a denomination, it's an inter-denominational movement.

Catholicism is the undisputed largest Christian denomination in the world.

You missed the point. They can be Christian, sure, but as long as they believe those two points, it doesn't matter.
no, you are missing the point; denominations mean a great deal. don't believe me? visit northern Ireland. sure, it's stupid of people to care about which specific superstition they hold, but the plain reality is that they DO care, and they kill people over it. that matters, in practical reality.

Only Catholics are Christians. Dividing into "denominations" is a heretic's thing.

Unitary Universalism isn't a Christian denomination. It is not Christianity or Christian.

'Evangelical' would fit the best for me, I suppose.

Only Catholics are Christians. Dividing into "denominations" is a heretic's thing.
You should study theoretical physics. Maybe you will find a way to go back to Spain in 1492.

You should study theoretical physics. Maybe you will find a way to go back to Spain in 1492.
Spain? 1492? Doesn't really sound all that appealing...

Only Catholics are Christians. Dividing into "denominations" is a heretic's thing.
A Christian is someone who sacrifices their life to Jesus.

Only Catholics are Christians. Dividing into "denominations" is a heretic's thing.
:headbang:

Only Catholics are Christians. Dividing into "denominations" is a heretic's thing.

That sir, is one of the most un-American things I have ever heard. It is common knowledge that the Established Church of England is the only true faith.

Only Catholics are Christians. Dividing into "denominations" is a heretic's thing. :headbang:
Ummm....Catholic is a denomination...if you read history on how the Catholics were founded you will find they broke off from the majority of Christians and started their own ways (nothing wrong with that BTW it was all in line w/ the bible at this time) From their more groups started their own ways and eventualy due to the Romans and some other causes Catholic became the "Christian" religon in EUROPE! Christians exsisted in N.Africa and the M. East at this time too your statement makes them sound like they don't matter and that they are burning in hell. Cathlics get alot of their teachings from pagen ideas. Read "Dante's Inferno" That was and is the Cathlics versions of hell with some alterations. So please don't be a blind follower.
Anyway my whole point is that Catholics arn't the only true "Christians" they are a denomination and your statment is in conflic with itself. Please when you hear the church say somthing try to prove it true or false. The church is made of men who make mistakes. It happens a slip here or misquote there causes problems. Don't follow blindly, do follow, but always question and make sure they didn'take a mistake. I have problems with the Catholics, but they are still Christians as defined by the Bible as are most of the Christian denominations.

Jehovah's Witnesses are pretty close to other major Christian denominations. The biggest difference is what will happen after armageddon. They're most definitely Christians.

Unitary Universalism isn't a Christian denomination.
Erase jehovah's witness, it isn't even Christian.
Only Catholics are Christians.

You folks don't get to decide for someone else whether or not they are Christian...or Buddhist...or Muslim...or Hindu...or any other religion or denomination.

People decide for themselves what their religion or denomination is. You might not like it, but if it ain't your party, you don't get to pick the music, know what I mean?

Thanks for letting me vote anyway :)

You folks don't get to decide for someone else whether or not they are Christian...or Buddhist...or Muslim...or Hindu...or any other religion or denomination.

People decide for themselves what their religion or denomination is. You might not like it, but if it ain't your party, you don't get to pick the music, know what I mean?

I absolutely agree. I believe in Christ! So nobody can say I'm not Christian, and even if they do....God knows what I believe. :)

You folks don't get to decide for someone else whether or not they are Christian...or Buddhist...or Muslim...or Hindu...or any other religion or denomination.

People decide for themselves what their religion or denomination is. You might not like it, but if it ain't your party, you don't get to pick the music, know what I mean?
So a Hindu, who follows the Eightfold path and not the Bible, could legitimately say he's a Christian?

So a Hindu, who follows the Eightfold path and not the Bible, could legitimately say he's a Christian?
Actually, Hindus would say they are Christians. Most Hindus believe all religions are just variations of one and the Christian Bible or the Buddhist Eightfold Path are just different roads on the way to the same destination.

What difference does the label make? Faith is personal.

Thus far, the results are predictable. Aren't there are about a billion Catholics - just Catholics - world-wide?

:) Aiera

i'm a baptist but that's because i live in flordia and thats the law

Only Catholics are Christians. Dividing into "denominations" is a heretic's thing.

Every single Christian on Earth is a heretic then, by your definition, considering that the church has had multiple factions since its inception.

You folks don't get to decide for someone else whether or not they are Christian...or Buddhist...or Muslim...or Hindu...or any other religion or denomination.

People decide for themselves what their religion or denomination is. You might not like it, but if it ain't your party, you don't get to pick the music, know what I mean?
Hey, I'm being objective here. Unitarians are no more Christians than are Muslims or Scientologists. The root of "Chrisitan" and "Christianity" is "Christ"; that is, those who believe in Jesus the Christ as their Lord and saviour can objectively said to be Christians. Those who do not, aren't. Belief in Christ is not a requirement for being a Unitarian Universalist; therefore, UUers can be objectively said not to be Christians.

I am an "other". Seventh-Day Adventist Christian to be prescise, though I am only a member of that denomination as a result of their close adherance to the Bible, rather than tradition.

That sir, is one of the most un-American things I have ever heard. It is common knowledge that the Established Church of England is the only true faith.

The church of England was formed because of a womanising king who couldn't father a son and keep him alive for the first year. First he married his brothers wife, how very accomodating keeping it all in the family

Hey, I'm being objective here. Unitarians are no more Christians than are Muslims or Scientologists. The root of "Chrisitan" and "Christianity" is "Christ"; that is, those who believe in Jesus the Christ as their Lord and saviour can objectively said to be Christians. Those who do not, aren't. Belief in Christ is not a requirement for being a Unitarian Universalist; therefore, UUers can be objectively said not to be Christians.
My rule of thumb is if someone calls himself a Christian (or anything else) then it is not up to me to contradict them. People set their own definitions for their religion.