NationStates Jolt Archive

Who hates who? A question which I find extremely fascinating.
It has recently come to my attention that certain areas of the globe have certain 'disagreements' with other areas. Now I'm not talking about your usual grudges like Europe and America, and Britain and France, Oh no, I'm talking about the kind of bitterness between two places (not necessarily countries) which you would only know about if you're actually there.

Examples of these in Britain are the bitterness between the two south coast cities of Southampton and Portsmouth, which unless you've ever been to one of there football matches, you would never understand (something about boats as I recall). And the hatred between the North and South of England which has been ongoing for bloody ages (bloody southerners)! Now what I want to know is whether your particular area of the world hates any other particular area, whether it be an American state rivalry, or a national conflict constantly bubbling under the surface of good diplomatic relations, please share with me.

i'm northern english and i don't hate the southerners, i just think they're all pansies.

in football, Blackpool FC supporters hate Preston North End supporters (cause PNE are scum)

i'm northern english and i don't hate the southerners, i just think they're all pansies.

in football, Blackpool FC supporters hate Preston North End supporters (cause PNE are scum)

See, this is what I'm getting at. I dont know anything about a specific Blackpool/Preston conflict - so what I want to know is, WHY are they scum? Do they smell? Are they all physically retarded? Live in sewers? Please specify.

Although the term "hate" is too strong by several orders of magnitude, the long standing rivalry between the Southern US and the Northern ( perhaps "Northeastern" would be more precise ) States has existed since before the Civil War. Having lived in both areas several times, I have a pretty good perspective on this.

The differences are not primarily, or even significantly, based on the slavery/racism issue. In Civil War times, slavery was an issue but not the primary one. Race relations in the South have, IMHO, come further, faster than anywhere else in the US. Southern whites and Southern African Americans have more in common, including cultural heritage and religious tradition, than in any other region in the entire country.

There have always been significant differences between the two regions in cultural and social terms and, in modern times, these differences have come to the fore. An indication of this is the strong vote in the South for President Bush's relection. "The solid South" now means Republican, not Democratic as in the past.

The difference is that most Northerners don't care. ;)

(I live in Connecticut, but also lived for 3 years in Virginia...)

See, this is what I'm getting at. I dont know anything about a specific Blackpool/Preston conflict - so what I want to know is, WHY are they scum? Do they smell? Are they all physically retarded? Live in sewers? Please specify.
to be quite honest i have no idea, I've just been brought up going to watch Blackpool matches and seeing nasty things graffitied on walls about PNE, it just kinda stuck

Newcastle and Sunderland, say no more!

Let's see, in sports rivalries in Canada the two biggest are probably the Battle of Ontario (Ottawa-Toronto) and the battle of Alberta (Edmonton-Calgary). Montreal-Toronto still exists as a rivalry, but one that has faded over the past decade.

As to the rest, everyone in Canada hates Toronto for smugly thinking that they are the only important city in the country - even some of those who live there.

The provinces of Saskatchewan and Alberta hate Ontario and Quebec because we have the population to pretty much determine the outcome of most federal elections - and we tend to vote liberal, and regarding Quebec because they are annoyed that they came up with the idea of seperation first. The province of Ontario is annoyed with the brand of conservatism that has come out of Alberta (our Texas if you will), and also by their noxious feeling of superiority for having eliminated their provincial debt given that the only reason they managed that was by being extremely lucky and discovering a shitload of oil under their cows and wheat.

Everyone views BC as the hippy, tree-hugging, ultra-liberal weenies of the country - sort of like how most American's view California but without the good parts.

And the East Coast is our dumb, but nice, bumkins - especially Newfoundlanders (or Newfies), who are viewed as particularly adept at only two things: Collecting unemployment benefits and drinking.

I won't really get into Quebec - that would take far too long.


There. that's Canada in a nutshell...

Newcastle and Sunderland, say no more!

No, please do. Why do these two pillar stones of Britain's industrial past hate each other so much? It's not something to do with football is it, because that seems to be a re-occuring theme here.

No, please do. Why do these two pillar stones of Britain's industrial past hate each other so much? It's not something to do with football is it, because that seems to be a re-occuring theme here.
Mostly to do with Football but I think it goes back further than that, but as with many of these things it has been lost to myth. Most of the banter is good natured but it does really matter if you are a geordie or a ma.... can't say it sorry.

Belgians vs the dutch
flemish speaking belgians vs french speaking belgians
and then between every flemish province
i'm from east flanders and i 'hate' (i don't have strong emotions, but i find it funny to say i hate someone without areason so i do it often):
-west-flanders: for being peasants and having a language that isn't even remotely understandible for the rest of the flemish people.
-antwerp: for thinking they live in 'the big city' or 'the centre of flanders' and more important for having a silly accent and speaking very loudly.
-flemish brabant: for having an accent that sounds a bit like that of antwerp.
-limburg: Nothing good ever came from limburg and they should learn to say more than one sentence an hour. (they speak very slowly)

Let's see, in sports rivalries in Canada the two biggest are probably the Battle of Ontario (Ottawa-Toronto) and the battle of Alberta (Edmonton-Calgary). Montreal-Toronto still exists as a rivalry, but one that has faded over the past decade.

As to the rest, everyone in Canada hates Toronto for smugly thinking that they are the only important city in the country - even some of those who live there.

The provinces of Saskatchewan and Alberta hate Ontario and Quebec because we have the population to pretty much determine the outcome of most federal elections - and we tend to vote liberal, and regarding Quebec because they are annoyed that they came up with the idea of seperation first. The province of Ontario is annoyed with the brand of conservatism that has come out of Alberta (our Texas if you will), and also by their noxious feeling of superiority for having eliminated their provincial debt given that the only reason they managed that was by being extremely lucky and discovering a shitload of oil under their cows and wheat.

Everyone views BC as the hippy, tree-hugging, ultra-liberal weenies of the country - sort of like how most American's view California but without the good parts.

And the East Coast is our dumb, but nice, bumkins - especially Newfoundlanders (or Newfies), who are viewed as particularly adept at only two things: Collecting unemployment benefits and drinking.

I won't really get into Quebec - that would take far too long.

There. that's Canada in a nutshell...

I've visited Nova Scotia, particulary Halifax, and loved it ... even in the Winter. I've also visited Ontario and liked it too, but especially for the opportunity to buy some Cuban cigars. :)

Please do post again on Cananda, especially about Quebec. Quebec is a bit of a mystery to me.

Arsene Wenger and Alex Ferguson. :D

The difference is that most Northerners don't care. ;)

(I live in Connecticut, but also lived for 3 years in Virginia...)

True. In many places in the South you can still find bumper stickers and t-shirts with the "Fergit HELL" slogan on them. My personal favorite though, is "I don't give a DAMN how you did it up North," which is directed at transplanted Northerners who move South for the money. :D

Belgians vs the dutch
flemish speaking belgians vs french speaking belgians
and then between every flemish province
i'm from east flanders and i 'hate' (i don't have strong emotions, but i find it funny to say i hate someone without areason so i do it often):
-west-flanders: for being peasants and having a language that isn't even remotely understandible for the rest of the flemish people.
-antwerp: for thinking they live in 'the big city' or 'the centre of flanders' and more important for having a silly accent and speaking very loudly.
-flemish brabant: for having an accent that sounds a bit like that of antwerp.
-limburg: Nothing good ever came from limburg and they should learn to say more than one sentence an hour. (they speak very slowly)

FASCINATING! I always thought Belgians were generally just divided into 2 camps (Flemish and French), but your explanation has enlightened me to many areas of Belgian geography that I had previously no knowledge of. I don't suppose you have an particularly strong feeling towards the Belgians that live in Brussels? Because I know that a large proportion of British people do.

We humans can’t help it. Depending on what you believe; we either have 400,000 years of natural selection turning us into hunter-killers or God gave us the free will to be jerks and start wars.

Either way you can see this stuff everywhere! Las Vegas is really 3 small cities bunched into a mountain valley will 90% of the government at the county level but there are segregation attitudes at the ‘city’ level. From Las Vegas to Reno we have a hate-hate relationship, most based on our college sports teams. No ‘native’ to Las Vegas can stand a Californian, they come into our city and buy all the best land and ‘like lawyers too much.’

Anyone from Texas must be a coyboy, redneck, willing to shoot you if you don’t like their politics. Um right? Maybe not it’s hard to keep up.

Seriously, its just human nature; over in Switzerland the peace loving land of neutrality the nation is very strongly divided based on what language you prefer. Wacky aint it?

West coast Central Scotland and East coast Central Scotland.
West coasters (wegies) see themselves as friendly and east coasters as stand-offish.
East coasters (Edinbuggers) see themselves as reserved and polite and the west coasters as obnoxious boors.

As a Fifer, I laugh at both but they all hate us. mainly because we've a reputation for being rogues and twisters
"It taks a lang spoon tae sup wi' a Fifer"

FASCINATING! I always thought Belgians were generally just divided into 2 camps (Flemish and French), but your explanation has enlightened me to many areas of Belgian geography that I had previously no knowledge of. I don't suppose you have an particularly strong feeling towards the Belgians that live in Brussels? Because I know that a large proportion of British people do.

Brussels is an island in flemish brabant. to be honest: flemish brabant is pretty new. It's one part of what used to be brabant. It was split over the flemish vs french thing. Brussels has a flemish population (they fall under the category flemish brabant) and a french population (they are not only french, but they are also 'invading' flanders from brussels). At the moment there is a lot of 'action' going on about Brussel-Halle-Vilvoorde. The last two are flemish towns next to brussels and Brussel-Halle-Vilvoorde is one 'electorial region'. The flemish now want to split this region.

Inland/Northern Mississippi and the Mississippi Gulf Coast (to the south). I can't remember the exact phrasing used by John Grisham in one of his novels, but it was DEAD ON. The Coast tends to see the inlanders as pretentious snoots, and they tend to see us as simpletons. But really, we get all the tourist money, and they can shove it. Also, they tend to see us as lazy, and we tend to see them as hicks.

Umm....

New Orleans, Louisiana seems to hate the ENTIRE rest of the state. NOLA itself is pretty artsy and liberal, and the rest of the state is your basic Good Ole Boy society. I won't even get into the whole Cajun v. Creole v. Transplant v. Southern v. White v. Black v. the rest of the world thing. I think the only thing we all ever had in common there was that we could abuse the tourists and get away with it.

City of Atlanta, GA v. Suburban Metro Atlanta v. the rest of the state (excpet Athens). City of Atlanta is very urban. Metro Atlanta/suberbia is fiercly conservative and primarily white, also very "yuppie." The rest of the state still lives in the Old South. Athens is a college town.

Norfolk area of Virginia (Hampton Roads) v. the rest of the state. Very similar to the Atlanta/rest of Georgia thing, except that in Norfolk, well, there's the Navy. And they're EVERYWHERE. Of course, within Hampton Roads is Virginia Beach, where, yet again, we have the amazing ability to screw with the tourists.

In Western Central Florida, there are four main groups of people: the Greeks, the Cubans, the retirees, and everybody else. They all hate each other. Again, though, they all come together in the interest of hating tourists.

Of course there is the City v. Upstate New York. City dwellers think they are better than upstate dwellers, because they live in the City. Those upstate think they are better than the city dwellers because, wuite frankly, most of New York's real money is upstate, and the folks upstate actually tend to OWN their homes (and also, the schools are better).

My final one isn't really regional, but private schools v. public schools. I am sure most of you can get that one without explanation.

São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro hate each other, particularly with regard to football. Basically Rio was the capital here, before they went and built that inhuman city called Brasilia, but São Paulo is, and has been for a long time, the dominant city economically.

Then there is, on an international scale, Brazil and Argentina. The only real comparison for the complete hatred that exists here, in my experience, is that between England and France.
Well actually both countries are so damn big, that the hatred only really exists in those regions that come into contact. South and South East Brazil with North Argentina.

British people and students.

Actually, this is one way hate. For some reason some people really hate students.

Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like Englishmen and Scots, or Welshmen and Scots, or Japanese and Scots, or Scots and other Scots. Damn Scots! They ruined Scotland!

Yankees vs Red Sox or really Yankee Fans vs Red Sox Fans........ only the greatest rivelry in the North East US/Baseball

in northwestern pennsylvania we hate people from ohio the most, we call them flatlanders and believe the come in to our area to shoot our deer(and livestock) then abondon their cabins for the rest of the year for our kids to get sent to jail for burglarizing. we really extend the term flatlander to include anyone who comes to hunt or do other recreational activities from out of the area. we also don't especially like people from southern new york, but since they have better shopping and nicer bars we go up there all the time and learn to keep our opinions to ourselves.

Los Angeles vs the rest of the country. Within Los Angeles, there's most of the city vs the San Fernando Valley.

Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like Englishmen and Scots, or Welshmen and Scots, or Japanese and Scots, or Scots and other Scots. Damn Scots! They ruined Scotland!

LMAO!!
So, are you a Wegie or an Edinbugger or somewhat else? As I've already said, I'm a Fifer.

Madrid and Barcelona (and furthermore Catalonia)
Vigo and A Coruña (in Galicia Northwest Spain)
All anadalusians hate Seville and Jerez

Ive got a general dislike for everyone and hate myself.......................
But there is always someone really special.

I support SouthHampton but only cause they had a crank Red-Head Welsh Manager.

Being from Wellington, I hate south islanders, people from north of the bombay hills and anyone from another country. Hamilton is kinda wank as well.

In Britain there are some people who are grouped together and are known as 'chavs'. While I realise that not all chavs and YOBS may be the arseholes that many of them represent, I feel that the vast majority of them need to be killed. Check out http://www.chavscum.co.uk/ for info if you're not from the UK. If you are from the UK, you should know what I mean by 'chavs'.

Los Angeles vs the rest of the country. Within Los Angeles, there's most of the city vs the San Fernando Valley.How 'bout LA versus the rest of California. Los Angeles is a festering boil on the backside of CA that just won't heal. We should split the state in two, right around Fresno. The north gets the central valley and San Francisco, the south gets the Mojave and Hollyweird.


LA can have Ah-nold.

He's happier there anyway and I'm sure he's tired of the commute.

Being from Wellington, I hate south islanders, people from north of the bombay hills and anyone from another country. Hamilton is kinda wank as well.
Its true

In Britain you often find that the North and South are often compaired to each other. Hell it's just huge competition.

I don't even know why we as a Nation are so proud of ourselves! Studies show that Britain has the highest number of teenage pregnancies, drug-abusers, binge drinkers, sufferers of asma (can't spell it) etc.

Mind you, we did produce the legendary Rock Group Queen, so I suppose we're good for something.

And while I'm talking about Britain, have you actually noticed our National Anthem?

"God Save Our Gracious Queen..."

What a crap line! Why would we, as a nation, envoke a non-specific deity to bail out these unelected sponges?!

Ok I've slagged us off too much.

Anyway, getting back to the original discussion, I think people hatre each other out of pride. They want to be the best area or the best country.

All that just to say 2 sentences...man do I drone on...

i'm from east flanders and i 'hate' (i don't have strong emotions, but i find it funny to say i hate someone without areason so i do it often):
-flemish brabant: for having an accent that sounds a bit like that of antwerp.

W...T...F???

North Korea is the only country that hates america and can also protect itself if a war ever did take place. They have been down-played for years, but that's what propaganda is. The Korean War was a stale-mate, and they are alot more advanced 52 years later. They have tunnels that make Vietnam look like a play ground. Did you know they helped n. vietnam with their tunneling system? All they have done is prepare for war for 52 years!

And no, the people aren't starving on the streets while the military is fattening up. That's what propaganda is. I mean, the economy isn't nowhere as close to the USA, but when it comes to a military budget, it's alot larger than the one the us has. And the military itself can successfully defeat the USA and their bases in the south would be smoke before they knew what hit them.

They have the political will and they have an ideology. China doesn't have a political will, and Russia doesn't have an ideology. But NK has both, and their people would support the war 110%.

Sweden has a lot of stupid rivalries, but my favorite is "everyone against Stockholm".

Stockholm has long been a region of growth, being the capital and all. Well, the social democrats in government have a problem with that. There's a whole system, called the "Robin Hood tax", that takes money from the Stockholm region and diverts it to the unemployed slackers in the rest of the country. Hell, even the not so small growth regions Gothenburg and Scania recieve money from us! What this tax fails to take into account is that everything is more expensive here, even for people with substandard wages (i.e. everyone in the public sector), so it effectively stunts our growth (without bothering those who are actually well off) and leaves a lot of principalities here without enough money for decent health care, schools and so on, while those welfare layabouts in the rest of the country have the best health care and schools. Way to go social democrats, go ahead and rip off the hand that feeds you, and the head too while you're at it.

The latest atrocity in this long standing conflict is that the government plans on spending a lot of tax payer money on a train route in the desolate northern regions, which is never going to pay off, whilst neglecting a bottleneck through which the major part of the country's train traffic has to squeeze itself, causing considerable problems. Why? The bottleneck is located in Stockholm, of course. Those assholes even want Stockholm to pay for the neccessary expansions. With WHAT money, exactly?

What's really interesting is that the people living in the regions up north, which are rather cold and sparsely populated and exist because the ground was savagely mined until nothing was left, tend to move away and look for jobs in Stockholm. But since the slackers and bums the social democrats are pandering to are the majority of the country, the commie wannabes stay in power.

i'm northern english and i don't hate the southerners, i just think they're all pansies.

in football, Blackpool FC supporters hate Preston North End supporters (cause PNE are scum)

Having spent the first 18 years of my life living in Kirkham (halfway between Preston and Blackpool), I feel I can provide a balanced view. Which is that Blackpool FC suck just too much for words! The tangerine strip is just too nasty by half. Though to be fair I've not been a game at the new stadium yet.

Go PNE!

In China it's basically everyone for himself and against Beijing or wherever the Emperor at this moment is.
Then South against North, East against West and Rural against Urban. And not to forget South against East.

The north-south divide of England really exists only in the north - no-one in the south gives a toss, frankly. I didn't even know that there was a north-south divide until I came to university in the north!

Although, that said, these uncouth northerners do speak very strangely...

I'm western German, so I have to hate the Eastern Germans, for they are nothing but lazy and incompetent faultfinders.^^

Well I live in Northern Ontario in Canada, and I won't call it a hatred, but we tend to make fun of people from the towns on both sides of the quebec border, I guess it's just cause they're more french they we are or something.

Oh, and people tend to make fun of natives around here also.

And, people from southern Ontario.

The north-south divide of England really exists only in the north - no-one in the south gives a toss, frankly. I didn't even know that there was a north-south divide until I came to university in the north!

Although, that said, these uncouth northerners do speak very strangely...
I think it comes from inventing loads of things, producing the raw materials, building the empire, supplying the work force and then being treated like dirt.

Seriously, its just human nature; over in Switzerland the peace loving land of neutrality the nation is very strongly divided based on what language you prefer. Wacky aint it?

How true. I live in Zurich, Switzerland and actually there seems to be almost nobody that we don't think they are just way beyond description (I also think hate is a too harsh word for the sentiment felt), and vice versa.

Especially between the french speaking part and the german speaking part there is a long history of differences that often also shows up in many national ballots that are held . There even is an expression for that divide (Röstigraben) which literally means hash brown ditch. It supposedly all roots in the difference of language and mentality, where the french speaking are supposed to be the laid back type.

This goes on to the rivalry with our neighboring kantons (states), especially toward the Aargau. This roots in the religious majority where Zurich is protestant and the Aargau is catholic.

And anyway everybody in Switzerland "hates" Zurich. This because Zurich is the economic motor of Switzerland and far more affluent. Zurich is also the biggest city in Switerland and definitly the cultural center and a place of great innovation. This was nicely peaked by the Tourist Office of Zurich with the slogan: Zurich - Downtown Switzerland. All the rest of Switzerland thought this was typically arrogant of Zurich and which was a real laugh.

But finally there is the two soccer clubs in the Super Leage (Premier Division) in Zurich: Grasshopers and FCZ. So we can also feel better than other people from Zurich. GC is the more affluent club which is supported by many ppl from the richer parts of Zurich (also considered capitalistic right wing republican types), and FCZ is more the working class club (of course the good hearted hard working honest type),

Ohio's intense hatred for Michigan. And this goes much deeper than just our football rivalry. Very very much deeper than that So much so that once upon a time we fought a war with them... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War

Ah, the French.

I live almost on the border with Switzerland and Germany, near a town called Mulhouse.
In France, everyone hates the Parisians, for they're hogging all the power in the country, they're ignorant, pompous and condescending of the others. They're also viewed as very selfish and arrogant persons. The other French blame them for giving the actual reputation of the French (Arrogant assholes).
There is a strong difference between Paris and the rest of the country, so much that there is an apellation for the rest (Province, not to confuse with Provence, a region of the south) in opposition to Paris. Paris, who imagines all the provinciaux are dumb hibillies and lazy jerks.
There is a strong cultural difference between the south and the north, althrough it doesn't lead to clashing.
The whole "Brits suck" thing is over, except for these soccer and rugby dumbasses. But english food is still considered godawful here. Strangely, the French don't think they've got bad teeth, but they do think british women are cold and ugly.
The French don't hate but makes fun of the Belgian, because of their accent and there are lots of belgian jokes here (kinda similar to blonde jokes..)
There's a love-hate relationship with America, but that's no news ;). Americans are both seen as bold, hard-working, fascinating and very nice people but also as "brain dead, naive drones, obnoxious and loud warmongers".
In the Far-east of France (Alsace), South-alsacians' natural enemies are the North-alsacians. It doesn't go far, through.
Corsicans are seen as extremely lazy, complex and silent people.

what about the aussies and the kiwi's?

I'm a kiwi living in australia and theres quite a bit of rivalry wether it be cricket footy or yachting or whatever most of it seems to revlove around sporting comps... whats up with the kiwi shagging sheep jokes??? I just don't get it :headbang:

The north-south divide of England really exists only in the north - no-one in the south gives a toss, frankly. I didn't even know that there was a north-south divide until I came to university in the north!

Although, that said, these uncouth northerners do speak very strangely...I think it comes from inventing loads of things, producing the raw materials, building the empire, supplying the work force and then being treated like dirt.That may be some of it, but my impression (I'm a Tyke, born and bread) is that a lot of people from the 'Sarf' don't even have a proper knowledge of the 'Norf'.

As a poor (but relevant) example, a recent TV programme had kids learning things the 1960s way. As an introduction to Geography, the class were shown an outline map of the UK with several un-named dots on for the major cities and asked to point out the correct dot for a city the teacher would name...

There were quite a few mistakes (obviously the programme was cut for entertainment purposes) but among them was a London lass who thought London was where Birmingham is. There was someone else who got Ireland and Scotland mixed up, and I can't remember where they came from, but the fact is that our Capital (administrative, business, touristic, governmental, etc, etc) is hovering in the most sourtherly 10% of the country (even lower if you ignore Cornwall along with Wales, because they're both 'west and funny' to most people who don't live there, but higher if you shave off Scotland, something even us 'Northern English' people unconciously do) and has the concentration of everything good (pay, jobs, perceived quality of living, except for those 'proud to be poor') while 'oop north' we only have whippets and sheep (as does Wales) and ferrets and people wearing string vests in winter and hankies on their heads in summer and talking about "goin' darn t'pit" and/or "trouble at mill"... anyway, the location and the perceptions means that we're all a desert up here and 'don't matter enough to be bothered about'. (As a gross generalisation, of course.)

On the other hand, we all think of think of Londoners as being from Eastenders/The Bill, most of the Home Counties as being Midsommer Murders country, Cornwall I've already mentioned and there's a swathe of people across the intervening latitudes with Welsh/Black Country/Brummy/Derby/East Anglian accents and respective stereotypes as you travel from west to east coasts... :)

In this 'region', there's the east/west rivalry of the white and red roses ('pit' & 'mill', as mentioned above), further internal squabbling with Yorkshire (North, South and East Ridings and/or North, South and West Yorkshires) and sub-areas (Newcastle/Sunderland, Thirsk/Scarborough, Sheffield Wednesday/Sheffield United) or types (industrial vs rural, coastal vs Pennine vs 'the bits in-between') and of course Cumbria's all a bit too wierd for some of us, because there's nothing north of the Hadrian/Antonine walls... :)

Well, not many people are aware of this, but there is a south AND a north part to California, and they don't like each other. Hate? Well, no. Rivalry? Maybe. But the hardest part about this destructive conflict is no one knows where to draw the battle line. Is Santa Barbara central coast, or northern southern or southern northern? Here in SB we are not sure, and I've found that most other people are not sure either. So, we wind up generally not taking sides in the great south/north California conflicts, either trying to play both sides against each other or randomly joining one or the other when we feel like it.

Actually, it's California, so no one cares about that stupid "our locality has a bigger penis than your locality" shit, we're all at the movies or getting stoned.

Ireland
Dublin vs the rest of the country. Dublin is the only real city (besides Cork) in the country. The rest are stupid bog-men.

in Dublin: northside vs southside
The Northside of the Liffey river is poorer than the southside and if you live there you must be a drug dealer, addict, teenage mother, prostitute, criminal etc.

The Southside is rich. If you live there you must be a snob, airhead, white-collar criminal with offshore bank accounts (especially if you live on the east side of the DART line!), etc.

Ohio's intense hatred for Michigan. And this goes much deeper than just our football rivalry. Very very much deeper than that So much so that once upon a time we fought a war with them... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War

Being from Ohio, I have to ask if that hatred is requited by thise in Michigan...anyone here from Michigan that can answer?

I'm western German, so I have to hate the Eastern Germans, for they are nothing but lazy and incompetent faultfinders.^^
Don't forget those neo-Nazi voting rednecks in Bavaria and the south. (?)

Wow! is all I can say. When I started this thread I never knew that there was this much localised animosity in the world. I'm assuming that this kind of rivalry (which seems to be the most common explanation) has some common themes which at the moment seem to be either Sport or Wealth and Prosperity. I know in my case that the people in Sheffield certainly dislike 'the South' in general, Leeds in many cases (although I'm not to sure about the reasons for that one) and the smaller 'satellite' towns around Sheffield (e.g Rotherham, Doncaster) because they benefit from the 'wealth' of Sheffield while not actually contributing to it.
And recently theres been a big fuss about the naming of a new airport in the region. It's actual locality is nearer Doncaster but the arguement was that it was better to call is Sheffield because more people have heard of it and would be more likely to use it - and not suprisingly, the people of Doncaster didnt like that! But the compromise they've reached is bloody ridiculous.
They've settled on 'Doncaster/Sheffield Robin Hood Airport' despite the fact that:-
a)This satisfies no one
b)Sounds stupid
c)Robin Hood is traditionally associated with neither and is more likely to appear in places around Nottingham. Honestly, people nowadays!

I think it comes from inventing loads of things, producing the raw materials, building the empire, supplying the work force and then being treated like dirt.
Which is obviously due to a conspiracy of every single evil southern-Englander, since we all have such great influence over the way that country is run...

I think the biggest riverly between each other is the army ants and the leaf cutter ants of the Amazon Reiver bason near the reckage of Fordlandia, and Bukuivistie' I am currenlyt on a rainforest expodention in search of a once thought extince giant ground sloth that was found living in the fossil reckord as soon as 12,000 years ago. I dont think this really is related to the thread it is just too rare and cool to pass up. bragging about.

Commander H. Hill
jungle expodetion 2005

LMAO!!
So, are you a Wegie or an Edinbugger or somewhat else? As I've already said, I'm a Fifer.

Almost an Edinbugger but I live outside nearer to Livingston.

Don't forget those neo-Nazi voting rednecks in Bavaria and the south.
Actually, in Germany the Neo-Nazis are in Saxony and the christian conversatives are in Bavaria. But thank you for reminding me; as a northern German I also have to hate the Bavarians for their christian conservatism and double standards.^^

There's a lot of tension between Perú and Chile, and it's been that way for quite a while. Whether anything will ever come of it is beyond me...

This should be no surprise to foreign visitors, but the (intensely nationalistic) Finnish people "hate" Sweden and Russia. With Sweden, it's a rivalry between two European Union nations as usual: the Swedes are terrible Social Democrats and forbid driving faster than a moped and can't decide anything but talk, talk and talk, plus that they're very much anti-Finnish. Russia, on the other hand, is the only imaginable enemy, whose imperialistic and expansionistic policies could be disasterous, and which is the reason we have conscription. Russians in Finland are seen as some sort of a mafiosos or whores ("Russian businessmen / women").

Inside the country, it's mostly about dialects and regional politics.

Everyone else but the Savonians themselves seem to hate the people speaking the Savo dialect, the largest single dialect of Finnish, spoken in Eastern Finland. I think it's because Savo is not all that understandable to others, because it is spoken to a different rhythm and with considerable vowel shifts - Englishmen, think really deep Scottish. Moreover, the Savo people are jolly, easygoing, and they talk and talk, which is a highly undesirable thing for any other type of Finn. There's a proverb that "When a Savonian speaks, the responsibility is shifted to the listener". They're canny and shrewd as hell.

The people in Satakunta are serious and not all that jolly. The comedians of Alivaltiosihteeri made a sketch about "Public demonstrations against Valentine's Day in Satakunta".

Pohjanmaa people are serious, and very much honest, but they have a reputation for being foolhardy and possibly violent. See extremeduudsonit.com...

Given any country, the people in the capital are assholes if you ask anyone but them. It's the same with Helsinki. It's a result of the fact that most of people in Helsinki are first-, or second-generation Helsingians, who have moved into "/The/ City" and have a contempt towards everything "country bumpkin."

The same Robin Hood thing applies to Finland as with Sweden, but the party responsible for this is mainly the Agrarian Party, today known as "Center Party".

They've settled on 'Doncaster/Sheffield Robin Hood Airport' despite the fact that:-
a)This satisfies no one
b)Sounds stupid
c)Robin Hood is traditionally associated with neither and is more likely to appear in places around Nottingham. Honestly, people nowadays!
d) Sheffield has (becoming 'had', due to lack of success/investment/whatever) an airport of its own.

[QUOTE=Silver-Wings]I don't even know why we as a Nation are so proud of ourselves! Studies show that Britain has the highest number of teenage pregnancies, drug-abusers, binge drinkers, sufferers of asma (can't spell it) etc.
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But whayt about clyhmidia NZ is Numero Uno