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Do you apologise?

Sinuhue
05-02-2005, 20:21
When things get a little heated here on NS, sometimes the personal attacks fly...

My question is...if you slip and say something mean to another user, do you apologise?

Same thing in real life...if you say something in the heat of the moment that is nothing but a personal attack, do you apologise?

Just wondering how people here on NS deal with conflict:).
Syawla
05-02-2005, 20:23
When things get a little heated here on NS, sometimes the personal attacks fly...

My question is...if you slip and say something mean to another user, do you apologise?

Same thing in real life...if you say something in the heat of the moment that is nothing but a personal attack, do you apologise?

Just wondering how people here on NS deal with conflict:).

I'm never mean, just honest.
Sanctaphrax
05-02-2005, 20:24
Yes I do, without fail. If I hurt someone I apologise. Even if I had an argument with someone but its clearly not my fault I'd still apologise if they did.
Chicken pi
05-02-2005, 20:25
When things get a little heated here on NS, sometimes the personal attacks fly...

My question is...if you slip and say something mean to another user, do you apologise?

Same thing in real life...if you say something in the heat of the moment that is nothing but a personal attack, do you apologise?

Just wondering how people here on NS deal with conflict:).

I generally never resort to personal attacks, so I don't apologise about that. However, if I get my facts wrong and somebody corrects me, I generally apologise and admit I was wrong.
Jordaxia
05-02-2005, 20:25
That depends on whether I can work up the courage to admit that I'm wrong. I tend not to get heated in the first place though, until I blow out and try and beat the hell out of someone. Since I can't physically reach anyone, though, it tends to be some other poor sap that gets it.

I've never made an apology to someone in real life for something I've said, because I can't remember the last time I made a personal attack on someone verbally. I'm too nice to.
Katganistan
05-02-2005, 20:28
I don't think I've insulted someone purposefully and directly on NS -- though I did on IRC. I apologised as publically as I had insulted.

It's the decent thing, not to mention the adult thing, to do.
Sinuhue
05-02-2005, 20:29
I find it can be really hard sometimes in real life to suck it up when I've flown off the handle. Doesn't happen much, but I think it's a real case of tossing out the ego and just being mature about things. It sucks to admit you've acted silly, but it's worse to NOT apologise and let it fester. Thing is, as soon as I apologise, I feel better, and the whole damn thing just looks stupid.
Sinuhue
05-02-2005, 20:30
I don't think I've insulted someone purposefully and directly on NS -- though I did on IRC. I apologised as publically as I had insulted.

It's the decent thing, not to mention the adult thing, to do.
How many of you have BEEN insulted and apologised to? (here on NS)? I have a hell of a lot of respect for someone who says something rash to me, then says, "You know what, I was having a bad day, sorry about that!"
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 20:32
If I have offended someone or hurt their feelings, I will apologize freely. However, if what has offended them is something I believe, my apology will be for offending them, not for what I said.
Harlesburg
05-02-2005, 20:32
Appologies never im sorry but thats just the way i am

I try to steer away from Personel attacks but im always a little vague on what i say so people could be offended.

In life i do apologies for accidents but if i deliberatly go out to hurt someone i will not appologies until they do for whatever they said-I dont like to fight but i can and i will if need be.

People in Glass houses shouldn't throw Grenades. :D
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 20:33
How many of you have BEEN insulted and apologised to? (here on NS)? I have a hell of a lot of respect for someone who says something rash to me, then says, "You know what, I was having a bad day, sorry about that!"


Nothing on NS offends or insults me. Granted, I have an extremely thick skin, but nobody here has found my "buttons".
Glitziness
05-02-2005, 20:34
If I regret what I said then I apologise. If not, I don't. I might regret it because I said it in the heat of the moment and didn't actually mean it, if I was extra spiteful, if I really upset them etc.... depends on the situation. Depends if I think I was wrong to say what I said. And I can swallow my pride easily and know when I was wrong.

And I only apologise for hurting peoples feelings. Never for disagreeing with them or stating my opinions.
The Lightning Star
05-02-2005, 20:34
I only aplogize when i've realized that I've said something really really really really really really really really mean. Like sometimes I insult homosexuals, or i realize that I've gone over the top insulting a New Yorker. Most of the time, though,when I say things that I firmly believe in(such as dictators are sometimes a needed evil), I won't take that back. Even if your daddy was shot to death by Yassir Arafat.
Eichen
05-02-2005, 20:36
Sometimes I do, sometiwmes I won't.
Depends on who I'm talking to. If they're otherwise cool, and probably just having a bad day, then yes, I'll apologize.
If it's coming from someone and it's just the same shit, different day, then no apologies.
Those who go overboard on God, Hitler, Fascism, etc. don't get any apologies either since they never had any credibility to start with.
Strangetobia
05-02-2005, 20:40
If I feel bad after I say it, I do. If I don't feel bad, I don't because obviously I think they deserved it.

In forums I tend to just ignore somone who's just arguing in circles or putting out arguments so weak and ill thought out that anyone can see through it, so I don't insult online alot.
Salutus
05-02-2005, 20:41
depends. i've often resorted to personal attacks, so if i feel i've overdone it i'll apologize. but if the other person's being a jerk, then i don't care.
Samaelis
05-02-2005, 20:47
I'm real, not fake.

Better to be painfully honest, than pleasingly dishonest.
Reconditum
05-02-2005, 20:53
I voted "DOESN'T APPLY". That's not always true, however, (where's the "Rarely Applies" option?) and whenever I do make the mistake of going too far (very rarely, especially IRL), I do my best to explain why and apologize.
Chicken pi
05-02-2005, 20:58
I'm real, not fake.

Better to be painfully honest, than pleasingly dishonest.

That's not the point. If you get angry during an argument and insult somebody, do you apologise?
Samaelis
05-02-2005, 21:16
Depends..
Arenestho
05-02-2005, 21:39
There is no point in apologizing, I made a 'mistake' and saying, "OMG guyz I'm so sowwy," isn't going to change anything. If I get in trouble, I suck it up and learn from my mistakes so as not to repeat them. Saying sorry is for weaklings who can't take a hit, retards who can't control themselves and pricks who can't change. Of course I need to say sorry to appease political correctness nazis, but I never mean it.
Harlesburg
05-02-2005, 21:45
Arenestho
Interesting seeing as in greek its saviour?????
Alien Born
05-02-2005, 21:59
There is no point in apologizing, I made a 'mistake' and saying, "OMG guyz I'm so sowwy," isn't going to change anything. If I get in trouble, I suck it up and learn from my mistakes so as not to repeat them. Saying sorry is for weaklings who can't take a hit, retards who can't control themselves and pricks who can't change. Of course I need to say sorry to appease political correctness nazis, but I never mean it.

Apologizing, after you insulted someone in a moment of anger, seems to me to be really worthwhile. It is not a matter of being wrong, or making a mistake, these do not need apologies. It is when you cause someone else to suffer that an apology is called for.

There are, of course, exceptions. Causing an extremist nutcase to suffer by saying something that they disagree with, and thereby find offensive, does not require apology. Ignorance, however is no excuse, if you cause someone to suffer because of your ignorance of something, then you still owe them an apology.

Not apologizing when you should simply shows you to be indifferent to your fellow humans. It shows you do not care. It does not show that you are big and strong and independant.
Willamena
05-02-2005, 22:09
I cannot answer the poll, but I can answer the question. I would, and do, apologize if I have done something inappropriate. Of course, I try to avoid the need to apologize as much as possible.
Occidio Multus
06-02-2005, 10:00
i hold this thread dear, because i think i know why it was made.

i never e-pologize for my personality. ever. i like me, and so do a lot of other people.
:fluffle:
occidio loves occidio
Blessed Assurance
06-02-2005, 10:19
This forum is full of discussions on subjects that are very important to poeple. Sometimes we just dont see eye to eye and we never will. That can be very frustrating and it causes people to act in a more abrasive or hurtful way than they usually would. I apologise
Greedy Pig
06-02-2005, 14:08
Depends. Usually I'll apologize especially if they come out with hard linkage facts.

But I'm rather nice.

And sometimes I don't apologize, because of my timezone. I say something.. Then I wake up the next morning and the threads like 5 pages back. Too lazy for me to rebump it just to apologize. :D
Vangaardia
06-02-2005, 14:15
I do not resort to Ad hominem but sometimes the other person perceives what is said as insultive many times I will apologize.
Eutrusca
06-02-2005, 14:19
When things get a little heated here on NS, sometimes the personal attacks fly...

My question is...if you slip and say something mean to another user, do you apologise?

Same thing in real life...if you say something in the heat of the moment that is nothing but a personal attack, do you apologise?

Just wondering how people here on NS deal with conflict:).

When I have either gone too far in lambasting someone or have done so in error, I apologize. Sometimes I will even apologize when I think ( or suspect ) that I was right. I'll also ask their forgiveness. It's one of the things I decided to retain from my early religious indoctrination. :)
Kinda Sensible people
06-02-2005, 14:43
Never. If I say something, I mean it, and no matter how cruel or mean it might be... It's what I mean. If someone is too weak willed to deal with that... Well that's their problem, isn't it?
Nationalist Valhalla
06-02-2005, 15:22
When things get a little heated here on NS, sometimes the personal attacks fly...

My question is...if you slip and say something mean to another user, do you apologise?

Same thing in real life...if you say something in the heat of the moment that is nothing but a personal attack, do you apologise?

Just wondering how people here on NS deal with conflict:).

did you apologize to Occidio Multus, for thinking she was a whitey?
Rainbirdtopia
06-02-2005, 16:38
Th stupid forgives and forgets.

The clever forgives but never forgets.
Prosophia
06-02-2005, 16:56
I usually apologize - I try to always apologize when I know I'm in the wrong. Life is hard enough - I don't want to go around hurting people and making life harder. Besides, I don't think I'd get anywhere in life if people either all hated me or were all scared of me (or both) - I mean, I might get some success by trampling on other people, but that's certainly not the kind of success I want.

And :fluffle:s make the world go 'round.
Texan Hotrodders
06-02-2005, 16:58
When things get a little heated here on NS, sometimes the personal attacks fly...

My question is...if you slip and say something mean to another user, do you apologise?

Same thing in real life...if you say something in the heat of the moment that is nothing but a personal attack, do you apologise?

Just wondering how people here on NS deal with conflict:).

I don't recall making alot of personal attacks, and haven't developed any particular policy for if I do. I often apologize if I made an erroneous statement or have made a mistake, however.
Demented Hamsters
06-02-2005, 17:00
All these crazy mixed up lies
Floating all around
Making these assumptions brings me down
And you get tight lipped
how do I know what you think.
Is it something I said when I lost my mind?
Temper too quick, makes me blind

I apologise
Said I'm sorry
Said I'm sorry now

I'ts your turn can you look me in the eyes
and apologise

So now we sit around we're staring at the walls
We don't do anything at all
Take out the garbage maybe,
but the dishes don't get done

I apologise
Said I'm sorry
Said I'm sorry now
free cookie to the burnt out punk rocker who knows where this came from.
Ashmoria
06-02-2005, 18:17
oh rats i did the poll THEN read the question

of course i apologize in real life when i do something i shouldnt have.

but i never fly off the handle here and insult people. although i do sometimes THINK unkind things.

if i have been misunderstood and offended someone, (and i notice it) ill apologize and try to explain my original intent.
Rangerville
07-02-2005, 02:01
I don't namecall or curse at people when i am trying to make a point, but occasionally i will be harsher with someone then i intend. Usually that only happens when i am hungry, because i get cranky then...lol. In those cases, yes, i do apologize. Even to people who call me names first or just really piss me off. I don't like to stoop to their level, or be a hypocrite. I don't like it when people resort to childish insults in an argument or debate, so i am not going to turn around and do the same thing.
Occidio Multus
07-02-2005, 07:14
did you apologize to Occidio Multus, for thinking she was a whitey?
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that was hysterical. she did though. rather nice of her.
Branin
07-02-2005, 07:15
I sometimes apologize, it really depends on the mood I'm in. I'm working on being more apologetic and doing it always though.
Naval Snipers
08-02-2005, 06:13
only if im wrong. not for something i didnt do (unless i was instructed to do it) or have no control over.
Harlesburg
08-02-2005, 11:01
If i can blame someone else ill do that and then if that dosent work ill Say my Superiors ordered me to do it-Worked for the Nazi's-Oh wait it didnt NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jester III
08-02-2005, 12:55
I never apologize. Sorry. :D
Draconil
08-02-2005, 13:05
Option 3.

It depends on who I insult, and what the circumstances were...
Sinuhue
08-02-2005, 17:03
did you apologize to Occidio Multus, for thinking she was a whitey?

As a matter of fact I did. I TG'd her and apologised for making assumptions. However, despite the fact that Occidio asked for (and deserved) an apology, she is apparently incapable of offering one herself:



keep flushing the toilet. flush your long posts down too. you are very argumenative, and most likely to be a nightmare shrew of a wife.

nice way to end the debate- but i am not up for your rants.


You know, resorting to ad hominem, personal attacks gets you nowhere. If you want a place where you can make baseless inflammatory statements, and NOT get called on it, you won't find it here. Suck it up, get some facts, and don't take it personally.

i would pay money for the emotion that allows one to take things personally. i just happen to know that your debates and getting all fired up gets you off.so , i figured i would frustrate you to no end. it is called mind warfare. welcome to the world.

now go play with your kids.

However, just because she has a convenient double standard, doesn't mean I won't continue to admit, and apologise if I've gone too far.
Occidio Multus
08-02-2005, 18:40
you know, just because you find it hard to deal with the fact that i am an asshole, you dont have to constantly categorize what i do. "double standard"???? no. its called "no regrets" and i meant it, about your kids. you took things i said, out of the context of an entire argument that went on for 15 or so posts, on two different threads. suddenly, i feel like i stepped into the liberal spin machine that made that michael moore movie. and i just blew up said machine with a can of gasoline and a half stick of dynamite.

i think you are a bit too obssesed with me. i will let you know, its not worth your time, as i have been nice so far, but when that tide turns.... no telling what i can say.

here is a big kiss and a hug Sinahue. to ease your pain. :fluffle:




:rolleyes:
Dempublicents
08-02-2005, 18:43
Sometimes I apologize - especially when I know I was definitely in the wrong.

However, if the "offense" was not a direct insult, I generally won't apologize, even if the person gets insulted.
Zaxon
08-02-2005, 19:08
Generally, if there's an attack from someone first, I tend to not apologize, but if I'm definitely in the wrong on facts, you bet I will. I think the last person I did apologize to would be Dempublicents, actually.

:D
Incenjucarania
08-02-2005, 19:46
If I make a mistake, I say "My bad" or the like.

I do not, however, say anything I don't -mean-, so appologies would just be lying.