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Final NS Political Compass Survey Chart!

Swimmingpool
05-02-2005, 19:20
You may remember that I was asking you all for your Political Compass (http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/) results. You thought it was all for nothing, but you were wrong! I have put everyone's results on a chart (well, everyone who submitted!). Now we can see where we all stand on the political compass. Fun fun!

Here is the NS political compass:

http://www.iol.ie/~roto/nspolc2.jpg [377KB]

I had to make it large in order to accomodate everyone's names, especially on the libertarian left majority.

Enjoy.

(It's me in the yellow square!)

Economics Prizes
Most Communist: Danarkadia, Kanabia, Europaland (tie)
Most Capitalist: GnOoLoCoPeLep, The Empire of Jason
Most Centrist: Zooke, Strensall (tie)

Social Prizes
Most Libertarian: Keruvalia
Most Authoritarian: VoteEarly
Most Centrist: Zooke
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 19:22
That's pretty cool.

I'm all by myself in my own lonely square. :(
Colodia
05-02-2005, 19:22
Holy Christ...
Super-power
05-02-2005, 19:23
So there are more libertarian capitalists here than i had thought . . . yay
Zombie Lagoon
05-02-2005, 19:24
Awww, I wish I'd posted my results now... Ill have to wait for someone else too come up with the idea again, in about 3 months probably.
Andaluciae
05-02-2005, 19:25
Damn, that's sweet. I've even gone so far as to bookmark it. Congratulations Swimmingpool, you are now one of the elite, one of the people with their site bookmarked by me!
Antebellum South
05-02-2005, 19:26
Nice work.
World wide allies
05-02-2005, 19:29
Good work !

:)
Kanabia
05-02-2005, 19:30
Great work!

(And yay, I got an award :p)
Swimmingpool
05-02-2005, 19:35
Awww, I wish I'd posted my results now... Ill have to wait for someone else too come up with the idea again, in about 3 months probably.
You can give me your results and I will put you on the chart. The link to the site is in red.
Pure Metal
05-02-2005, 19:35
awesome work dude.
sharing with Dobbs Town, United Freedoms and Kroblexskij (hope i spelt that right...) yay!
Zombie Lagoon
05-02-2005, 19:37
You can give me your results and I will put you on the chart. The link to the site is in red.

Cheers, My result is -7.50, -1.50
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 19:37
:( :( :(

http://www.unlc.biz/images/alone.bmp

Somebody needs to come to my square.
Holy Paradise
05-02-2005, 19:39
Just read my sig. It'll give you where I stand, swimmingpool.
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 19:41
This should be stickied for a little while. It's brilliant.
Antebellum South
05-02-2005, 19:42
Fact:
This should be stickied for a little while. It's brilliant.
Swimmingpool
05-02-2005, 19:47
Damn, that's sweet. I've even gone so far as to bookmark it. Congratulations Swimmingpool, you are now one of the elite, one of the people with their site bookmarked by me!
w3rd! I'm teh tr00 1337!!!!11shiftf1!!
New Genoa
05-02-2005, 19:49
Can't say that there's not a liberal bias on the general forums now, can ya... ;)
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 19:51
Can't say that there's not a liberal bias on the general forums now, can ya... ;)

It's how we like it.
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 19:52
Social Prizes
Most Libertarian: Keruvalia


Hey! I just noticed this ... groovy.
Samaelis
05-02-2005, 20:27
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.67
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 20:29
Well I asked in Moderation for a sticky, but it probably won't happen.

Just keep bumping it for a while. :)
Chicken pi
05-02-2005, 20:30
Nice one, Swimmingpool, that must have taken you absolutely ages to do.
Eichen
05-02-2005, 20:49
Damn good job! I even saved the pic for future reference (you should let us know if you update anything).
I had no idea I had even that much company on NS!
:fluffle:
Zotona
05-02-2005, 21:02
This is cool... to me... man, I'm a geek! :p
Custodes Rana
05-02-2005, 21:10
Good job, Swimmingpool!

Looks like some serious time consuming effort on your part!
Jjuulliiaann
05-02-2005, 21:18
I know that this is final, but could you update my position?
I found out the exact numbers:

Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.59
Free Soviets
05-02-2005, 21:33
looks like it came out a lot like my old one.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=58724

what i find most interesting is the clear pattern on the left, and the lack of one for the right. a best fit line for the right might run pretty much exactly along the x axis by default.

oh, and do you have tanah burung's numbers right? i'm pretty sure they should be on the left.
Swimmingpool
05-02-2005, 22:00
Nice one, Swimmingpool, that must have taken you absolutely ages to do.
It took a while, but I've just finished a very busy period in my life and I wanted to do something fun and trivial like this.

(look, I just called it fun. proof that I'm an internet nerd.)
Can't say that there's not a liberal bias on the general forums now, can ya... ;)
There is not a liberal bias, but there is certainly a liberal majority!

I'm glad to see that libertarians outnumbered conservatives on the right wing of the chart... looks like they're realising that social authoritarianism does not work.
Swimmingpool
05-02-2005, 22:03
oh, and do you have tanah burung's numbers right? i'm pretty sure they should be on the left.
Damn! I just checked my file. Tanah's economic score is not 4.75, but -4.75! I should correct that.
Eichen
05-02-2005, 22:04
I'm glad to see that libertarians outnumbered conservatives on the right wing of the chart... looks like they're realising that social authoritarianism does not work.
We get that all too well.
Now when will the liberals realize that economic authoritarianism doesn't work well either? ;)
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 22:06
We get that all too well.
Now when will the liberals realize that economic authoritarianism doesn't work well either? ;)

NEVAR! :p
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 22:08
(look, I just called it fun. proof that I'm an internet nerd.)


Almost, my young padawan learner. To be a true internet nerd, you must include a running average.
Free Soviets
05-02-2005, 22:17
Almost, my young padawan learner. To be a true internet nerd, you must include a running average.

based on my original data:

mean
econ: -1.97352518
social: -3.395755396

median
-3.12
-4.31

mode
-10
-5.44

i also messed around creating a best fit curve too.
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 22:22
based on my original data:

mean
-1.97352518 -3.395755396

median
-3.12 -4.31

mode
-10 -5.44

i also messed around creating a best fit curve too.

hahaha ... you nerd. :D
Swimmingpool
05-02-2005, 22:25
I uploaded an amended chart. this includes the scores that people have given me in this thread

http://www.iol.ie/~roto/nspolc2.jpg [372KB]
Free Soviets
05-02-2005, 22:28
hahaha ... you nerd. :D

i don't deny it
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 22:29
I uploaded an amended chart. this includes the scores that people have given me in this thread

http://www.iol.ie/~roto/nspolc2.jpg [372KB]

I have company iin my square! YEAH!
GnOoLoCoPeLep
05-02-2005, 23:01
If it's not too late to participate, I'd like to give my scores.

Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 7.13

I think I could give the current Economic Right Leader a run for his money. Belem's got me beat on the social scale, however.
Andaluciae
05-02-2005, 23:02
Hehe, Zooke is right in the middle...
Swimmingpool
05-02-2005, 23:03
:( :( :(

http://www.unlc.biz/images/alone.bmp

Somebody needs to come to my square.
You're in luck. Jjuulliiaann just did!
Swimmingpool
05-02-2005, 23:14
If it's not too late to participate, I'd like to give my scores.

Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 7.13

I think I could give the current Economic Right Leader a run for his money. Belem's got me beat on the social scale, however.
Wow, you must be the Republican party's biggest supporter in NJ!

I'll put you on the chart after I get a few more scores.
Super American VX Man
05-02-2005, 23:24
Here's mine.

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.44

Go Libertarians!
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 23:24
Okie .... how many of you actually took the test and answered the questions seriously and with the answers you truly believe?

How many of you answered the questions in a deliberate fashion in order to get an extreme score?

Be honest now.
Free Soviets
05-02-2005, 23:31
Okie .... how many of you actually took the test and answered the questions seriously and with the answers you truly believe?

How many of you answered the questions in a deliberate fashion in order to get an extreme score?

Be honest now.

mine are honest. i know how to get the extreme scores for every corner and how to wind up in the middle. i found out when i was trying to figure out if the test had any structural biases. it just so happens that i actually am close to the -10, -10 corner.
Eichen
05-02-2005, 23:32
Okie .... how many of you actually took the test and answered the questions seriously and with the answers you truly believe?

How many of you answered the questions in a deliberate fashion in order to get an extreme score?

Be honest now.
I was actually suprised to find out that I'm not as extreme as some seem to think I am.
Terra Formi
05-02-2005, 23:41
I was actually suprised to find out that I'm not as extreme as some seem to think I am.

Same here, though people probably think we're extreme in opposite directions.

I was really surprised to find how much closer to the center I was, after having answered everything honestly.

Great work, by the way!
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 23:46
I, too, was honest. Although, it came as no surprise to anyone in the free world that my score is so close to the bottom left corner.

I did a test to see what the score would be if you "Strongly Agree" or "Strongly Disagree" with everything. Turns out it makes you very centrist.
Grand Teton
05-02-2005, 23:53
Me:
Economic Left/Right: -9.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.74
Not as liberal as I had hoped :( but I'm working on it.
-A mighty fine piece of work, keep it up.

You know what'd be interesting? Actually make Bush take this, and make him answer answer truthfully, see if he really, deep down agrees with what he's saying.
*runs off to organise the snatch team*
Zombie Lagoon
05-02-2005, 23:53
Yay, im in a square all by myself. I answeared honestly and found I was more extreme left than I thought I was.
The White Hats
06-02-2005, 00:03
I uploaded an amended chart. this includes the scores that people have given me in this thread

http://www.iol.ie/~roto/nspolc2.jpg [372KB]
Eh, if you're taking updates ....

Economic axis: -5.13
Social axis: -4.77

(Nice work, BTW)
Los Banditos
06-02-2005, 00:06
Not surprised:
Economic Left/Right: 2.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.28
NASCAR Racers
06-02-2005, 00:15
Here's my results:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.10
Swimmingpool
06-02-2005, 00:15
You know what'd be interesting? Actually make Bush take this, and make him answer answer truthfully, see if he really, deep down agrees with what he's saying.
On the site they have a US Election 2004. They didn't make the candidates (incl Bush) take the test, but they analysed their statements and voting records and answered the questions as they would. You can see Bush's position. It is also interesting to note that Kerry is in the conservative right quadrant.
Jordaxia
06-02-2005, 00:17
Well.. I'm not on the chart, but I submitted my results in the other thread. The first time I took the test, it surprised me, as I thought I was quite conservative, but since then I've actually looked at what I think more carefully, the results don't surprise me at all.
Swimmingpool
06-02-2005, 03:21
I've updated it again

Here is the NS political compass:

http://www.iol.ie/~roto/nspolc2.jpg
Jjuulliiaann
06-02-2005, 03:50
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.59
Woops. Sorry. Turns out I'm Economic Left/Right: -9.13; Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.59

And sorry Keruvalia, I'm no longer in your square. At least now you got Refused Party Program in there, if just barely.
Seton Rebel
06-02-2005, 03:57
Awesome job man... Almost in a square all by myself except for IV Stalin.
Damn you IV Stalin...

LOL
The Plutonian Empire
06-02-2005, 04:24
How do I figure out MY political compass?
New Genoa
06-02-2005, 04:25
hmm, apparently Ive become more libertarian over the past few months since I took the test.

Economic Left/Right: 5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.59

still pretty much the same on the social scale
The Plutonian Empire
06-02-2005, 05:22
Uh, where's the thread where I can submit my results?
Pepe Dominguez
06-02-2005, 05:38
Okie .... how many of you actually took the test and answered the questions seriously and with the answers you truly believe?

How many of you answered the questions in a deliberate fashion in order to get an extreme score?

Be honest now.

I honestly can't remember if I answered seriously or for fun, since it's been a while.. although it looks accurate. I'll have to take it again and compare, and if it's close, just leave it.

Either way, kudos to Swimmingpool for the chart! Outstanding!
New Anthrus
06-02-2005, 05:48
Here are my results.
Economic Left/Right: 8.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.23
The Plutonian Empire
06-02-2005, 05:50
my results:
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54
Pepe Dominguez
06-02-2005, 06:08
I don't understand the page of religious questions.. doesn't seem to fit unless answering "agree" to having faith pushes you toward authoritarianism, which I think is wildly innacurate. Stalin would've 'strongly disagreed' with all of them, but did it make him less authoritarian? That, and a few other screwey questions got me a few squares off my old results, but it's interesting nonetheless.
New Jyria
06-02-2005, 07:22
Excellent work with the compass chart, mind if you include my results?

Economic Left/Right: -1.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.18

Thanks in advance
CanuckHeaven
06-02-2005, 07:23
You may remember that I was asking you all for your Political Compass (http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/) results. You thought it was all for nothing, but you were wrong! I have put everyone's results on a chart (well, everyone who submitted!). Now we can see where we all stand on the political compass. Fun fun!

Here is the NS political compass:

http://www.iol.ie/~roto/nspolc2.jpg [377KB]

I had to make it large in order to accomodate everyone's names, especially on the libertarian left majority.

Enjoy.

(It's me in the yellow square!)

Economics Prizes
Most Communist: Danarkadia, Kanabia, Europaland (tie)
Most Capitalist: GnOoLoCoPeLep, The Empire of Jason
Most Centrist: Zooke, Strensall (tie)

Social Prizes
Most Libertarian: Keruvalia
Most Authoritarian: Belem
Most Centrist: Zooke
Great job there Swimmingpool!! :D

Perhaps you could add the political/spiritual leaders as a reference? In larger type or different colour? Just a thought.
Greedy Pig
06-02-2005, 07:44
Great job Swimming pool.

*Three thumbs up*
The Plutonian Empire
06-02-2005, 07:47
I agree. He's done a terrific job! :D
Jeruselem
06-02-2005, 08:59
Wow, good work. I'd go insane trying to compile that thing.

ME, ME :)

Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.54
Kanabia
06-02-2005, 09:10
Okie .... how many of you actually took the test and answered the questions seriously and with the answers you truly believe?

How many of you answered the questions in a deliberate fashion in order to get an extreme score?

Be honest now.

No, I answered the questions how I truly felt about them, despite the extreme score... I could justify them if you really want me to prove it :p
Vittos Ordination
06-02-2005, 09:25
Here I am right smack dab in the middle. Put me in as VO, since my name probably won't fit.

Economic Left/Right: -3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79
Selgin
06-02-2005, 09:33
Hoping I'm in before another update:

Economic: 5.38
Social: 3.49

Good work, by the way.
Surprising, I think of myself as conservative, but came up as pretty close to Tony Blair's numbers.
The Most Glorious Hack
06-02-2005, 10:37
Wow... lotta leftists...

Economic Left/Right: 5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.41

Don't think I've moved much since the first time I took this, back in 03.
JRV
06-02-2005, 10:58
Mine...

Economic Left/Right: 2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.36
Eichen
06-02-2005, 11:24
The chart is becoming polluted with n00bz.

You gotta add a few more to even it out, like Vittos and Plutonian.
JRV
06-02-2005, 11:44
The chart is becoming polluted with n00bz.

You gotta add a few more to even it out, like Vittos and Plutonian.

Who are you calling a n00b?
Branin
06-02-2005, 12:41
Nice work pool.
Rogue Angelica
06-02-2005, 13:06
That is uberly cool. Here's mine:
Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.90
Dumner
06-02-2005, 13:10
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.15
Petsburg
06-02-2005, 13:12
Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.57
Roxleys
06-02-2005, 13:14
Awesome! *waves to BackwoodsSquatches and Delator in her square* :)
Freedom For Most
06-02-2005, 16:03
Following on from Free Soviets, someone with a table of the original results and a decent spreadsheet program (i.e. not Excel) could make a line of best fit that I suppose could be superimposed onto the original graph. I've not heard of any programs that have a feature where you can scan in a graph and come up with a best fit line but thats not to say there isn't one.
Kanabia
06-02-2005, 16:15
Following on from Free Soviets, someone with a table of the original results and a decent spreadsheet program (i.e. not Excel) could make a line of best fit that I suppose could be superimposed onto the original graph. I've not heard of any programs that have a feature where you can scan in a graph and come up with a best fit line but thats not to say there isn't one.

You could calculate it manually using linear regression.

...now, if only i can remember how to do that :D
Swimmingpool
06-02-2005, 16:41
#1. To all those who have just given me results, I'll put them on the chart in the next couple of days.

#2. People, I will not update your position changes if you choose to take the test on a daily or weekly basis. This means you Jjuulliiaann. I've already moved you once. I won't do it again for a while at least.

Hoping I'm in before another update:

Economic: 5.38
Social: 3.49

Good work, by the way.
Surprising, I think of myself as conservative, but came up as pretty close to Tony Blair's numbers.
Tony Blair is also a conservative of sorts. He's Labour, but nowadays that does not mean he's left-wing.
Swimmingpool
06-02-2005, 16:44
Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.57
Anarcho-capitalist? You get to join in the "most capitalist" prize.

But... is this actually true? Were you honest when you answered the questions? Cos I have an old score for you of -2.88 -7.90 which puts you on the left.
Texan Hotrodders
06-02-2005, 16:54
Anarcho-capitalist?

The makers of that test wouldn't know an anarcho-capitalist if it smacked them upside the head. Libertovania's score makes that painfully obvious.

And how the hell did I get on the chart? :confused:
Prosophia
06-02-2005, 17:00
You may remember that I was asking you all for your Political Compass (http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/) results. You thought it was all for nothing, but you were wrong! I have put everyone's results on a chart (well, everyone who submitted!). Now we can see where we all stand on the political compass. Fun fun!

Here is the NS political compass:

http://www.iol.ie/~roto/nspolc2.jpg [377KB]

I had to make it large in order to accomodate everyone's names, especially on the libertarian left majority.

Enjoy.

(It's me in the yellow square!)

Economics Prizes
Most Communist: Danarkadia, Kanabia, Europaland (tie)
Most Capitalist: GnOoLoCoPeLep, The Empire of Jason
Most Centrist: Zooke, Strensall (tie)

Social Prizes
Most Libertarian: Keruvalia
Most Authoritarian: Belem
Most Centrist: Zooke

You are now officially my god. :D

- Prosophia, hanging out with Jenn Jenn Land in the -1, -3 square
Bunglejinx
06-02-2005, 17:01
Man I wish I was on this! Could you add me??

Economic Left/Right: 3.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

Thanks!
New Genoa
06-02-2005, 20:00
hmm, apparently Ive become more libertarian over the past few months since I took the test.

Economic Left/Right: 5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.59

still pretty much the same on the social scale

IN case you missed my update: ;)
Fascist Emerica
06-02-2005, 21:04
I took it again. If you dont want to update it thats fine. I just wanted to see if I had any real differences from my last score. I did chance abit but not to much.

Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 5.08
Bhutane
06-02-2005, 22:36
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38

So I'm fairly down in the lower corner compared to 'most' other people.
Terra Matsu
06-02-2005, 23:21
Economic Left/Right: -7.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.49
DontPissUsOff
06-02-2005, 23:33
Yello there, could I ask that my results be put on?

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.67
The Empire of Jason
07-02-2005, 01:52
Most Capitalist: GnOoLoCoPeLep, The Empire of Jason



I definately wear this as a badge of honor!
Calricstan
07-02-2005, 02:19
Very groovy! I'm -4.5 economic, -7.38 social, if you get time to add me to the chart.
Kleptonis
07-02-2005, 02:31
Economic Left/Right: -3.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.18
Ravenclaws
07-02-2005, 02:46
I might as well add my own to this:
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85
Swimmingpool
07-02-2005, 04:04
Well, it's great that you all decided to give me your results in this thread and not the original results thread which I bumped continuously.
Petsburg
07-02-2005, 08:27
Anarcho-capitalist? You get to join in the "most capitalist" prize.

But... is this actually true? Were you honest when you answered the questions? Cos I have an old score for you of -2.88 -7.90 which puts you on the left.

Totally honest. My ideology has switched from left libertarian to anarcho-capitalist, after talking to people in these forums.
Jjuulliiaann
07-02-2005, 16:18
Well, it's great that you all decided to give me your results in this thread and not the original results thread which I bumped continuously.
Well, sorry about that, but considering that general has about eight pages of active threads, it is kind of difficult to find one in particular, without searching. (And if you had done a search a few minutes ago, like me, you wouldn't be able to search again.)
Oh well. Sorry.
Eichen
07-02-2005, 17:01
I just gave this thread my first 5 Star rating because of all of the hard work (and pains in the arse) SwimmingPool has put into this NS project.
This kind of team player kinda lends a shred of cred to those crazy commies! :p
Eichen
07-02-2005, 17:21
I've even fought the urge to ask the region of Libertarian to post here just to fillin some of that pesky negative space in the lower right.
Maraque
07-02-2005, 17:49
Economic Left/Right: -2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36
Swimmingpool
07-02-2005, 18:00
I just gave this thread my first 5 Star rating because of all of the hard work (and pains in the arse) SwimmingPool has put into this NS project.
This kind of team player kinda lends a shred of cred to those crazy commies! :p
thanks!
Bramia
07-02-2005, 18:01
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51
Greedy Pig
07-02-2005, 18:02
Seriously.. This thread should be stickied.. I wonder if you can ask the mod's that. :)
Pagatude
07-02-2005, 18:08
I think I'm coming to the party a little late, but my compass looks like this:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.59

Which is a lot more to the left than it used to be....
Strensall
07-02-2005, 18:20
Wow, I'm slightly socially liberal, and smack bang in the centre economically, and yet I would say I'm one of the radicals on this board! It just shows nationalism (especially my socially-liberal variety) just does not fit the chart. Slap on a Z-Axis and put me at the extreme.
Moonseed
07-02-2005, 18:37
hmm, seems the person I'm most like is either Drunk Commies or Vamp bats (or Ghandi if you look at the sample chart they do on the website, though he's a bit left of me...!):

Economic Left/Right: -5.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.03

wish I'd noticed it back before the chart was done - sorry! Great work though :)
Personal responsibilit
07-02-2005, 18:40
You did a great thing with that chart. Do you have the data in any kind of a statistically testable format? I am impressed.

I can hardly believe that only 13 people on this site can claim to be more centrist than me. It is really interesting how the libs. have moved debate over issues so far to the left that I have to argue with them from a centrist position and yet they try to to characterize such arguments as right-wing-religous extremism. Guess that says something about who the extremists here really are.
Swimmingpool
08-02-2005, 20:30
I will update the chart in the next 2 days.

*blatantly a bump post*
Swimmingpool
08-02-2005, 20:33
You did a great thing with that chart. Do you have the data in any kind of a statistically testable format? I am impressed.

I can hardly believe that only 13 people on this site can claim to be more centrist than me. It is really interesting how the libs. have moved debate over issues so far to the left that I have to argue with them from a centrist position and yet they try to to characterize such arguments as right-wing-religous extremism. Guess that says something about who the extremists here really are.
which issues are you talking about? I see that you are a libertarian. Surely you would generally be of similar opinion as the liberals when it comes to social or religious issues?

Edit: yes, I have everyone's results on my computer in a text file. Do you want me to post them all, in no particular order, in a list?
Lascivious Maximus
08-02-2005, 21:02
Im a little late to the party too...
Oh well.

I avoid getting political in the forums, but curiosity finally peaked and I bit.

My political compass:

Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38

I join the masses... hm, nothing like being average! Haha! :p
Maledicti
08-02-2005, 21:13
Economic Left/Right: -4.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.28

And as many have said, that's pretty damn cool.
New Genoa
08-02-2005, 21:14
I can hardly believe that only 13 people on this site can claim to be more centrist than me. It is really interesting how the libs. have moved debate over issues so far to the left that I have to argue with them from a centrist position and yet they try to to characterize such arguments as right-wing-religous extremism. Guess that says something about who the extremists here really are.

INteresting, huh? Especially since so many people who are liberals get teed off when a rightie ends up characterizing them as commies.

which issues are you talking about? I see that you are a libertarian. Surely you would generally be of similar opinion as the liberals when it comes to social or religious issues?

Libertarians and liberals disagree over quite a few things socially. Typically, the liberal will favor hate crime laws, affirmative action, banning smoking in public places, higher minimum wages while the libertarian will be against of all the above, USUALLY... except minimum wage, which is a debatable issue. Liberalism also sparked PC, although there are plenty of anti-PC liberals. I can assure you that probably most, if not all, Libertarians are anti-PC, as it is a form of censorship.
Swimmingpool
09-02-2005, 00:15
Libertarians and liberals disagree over quite a few things socially. Typically, the liberal will favor hate crime laws, affirmative action, banning smoking in public places, higher minimum wages while the libertarian will be against of all the above, USUALLY... except minimum wage, which is a debatable issue. Liberalism also sparked PC, although there are plenty of anti-PC liberals. I can assure you that probably most, if not all, Libertarians are anti-PC, as it is a form of censorship.
Hmmm, sounds like I'm closer to the libertarians on this one. I'm against banning free speech even if it is racist, against affirimitive action (they have it in NI for Catholics), but I'm for banning smoking in some public places and in favour of minimum wages (which is an economic issue).

But what has any of this got to do with religious extremism?
Forseral
09-02-2005, 00:41
My political compass:

Economic Left/Right: 5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Swimmingpool
09-02-2005, 00:53
My political compass:

Economic Left/Right: 5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Oh no! An evil conservative!!!

j/k

there are too many liberals here. thanks for your score.
New Genoa
09-02-2005, 00:59
Hmmm, sounds like I'm closer to the libertarians on this one. I'm against banning free speech even if it is racist, against affirimitive action (they have it in NI for Catholics), but I'm for banning smoking in some public places and in favour of minimum wages (which is an economic issue).

But what has any of this got to do with religious extremism?

It was more of a response to social issue part. And about minimum wage, it can be a social issue when people whine about "living wages" and all that. So I would say it could be both. Not to say Im for the complete abolishment of it, but that's where I got that association with social.

Religiously, I don't know. I know Im an agnostic, but I don't think Libertarians are as vicious as some atheist liberals towards god and people who worship. but thats just saying based on these forums since I don't truly know any libertarians in my life.
Hoo Doo
09-02-2005, 01:00
If you can really be bothered, it'd be great if you could put my results on to the chart.
See sig for results.
And as many have said, it really is cool.
Eichen
09-02-2005, 01:05
Geesh, this guy (SwimmingPool) has got to eventually close down shop people. When's closing time, or this the song that never ends?

Also, I'm suprised not to see a few names on the chart I'd have liked to have seen there (Vittos Ordination, Greedy Pig, many more) on the chart. Oh well.
Hoo Doo
09-02-2005, 01:07
Yeah I know, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't update it.
Gurnee
09-02-2005, 01:12
If you can still post them, my results are:

left: 6.88
down: 7.79

And this is kick ass! You deserve a round of applause.
*claps hands*
Swimmingpool
09-02-2005, 01:15
Religiously, I don't know. I know Im an agnostic, but I don't think Libertarians are as vicious as some atheist liberals towards god and people who worship. but thats just saying based on these forums since I don't truly know any libertarians in my life.
1. Contrary to cliches, not all atheists are liberals.

2. Most liberals are not anti-religious.

3. Those that are were probably only provoked by the Bush administration's justifying their social authoritarian policies with religion.
Swimmingpool
09-02-2005, 01:19
Geesh, this guy (SwimmingPool) has got to eventually close down shop people. When's closing time, or this the song that never ends?

Also, I'm suprised not to see a few names on the chart I'd have liked to have seen there (Vittos Ordination, Greedy Pig, many more) on the chart. Oh well.
Those guys will be there soon. I would have liked to have some scores that I don't. For example, Stephistan and Zepp have ignored this entirely. I even sent a telegram to Roach-Busters requesting his score. He refused to take the test. So I took the test, answering the questions as I think he would, and I'm debating with the idea of actually putting it down with his name on it. He's an important member of this forum and his old-skool, Bush-hating conservative views are unique here.
Niccolo Medici
09-02-2005, 01:26
Yeah, while I didn't agree with the results all that much, I took the test. I think that this chart is very cool, though I will firmly ignore it while reading other's posts. I do not wish to color my perception of others by looking up their supposed "stances" using this chart.

Its the ideas themselves at NS that intrigue me; not the philosophies or inherant leanings of the people here.
Eichen
09-02-2005, 01:26
I even sent a telegram to Roach-Busters requesting his score. He refused to take the test. So I took the test, answering the questions as I think he would, and I'm debating with the idea of actually putting it down with his name on it. He's an important member of this forum and his old-skool, Bush-hating conservative views are unique here.
Ouch... don't assume Roach-Busters political affiliation. It's just not cool, and would jeopardize the credibility of the entire project (a great piece of work, btw).

If I had to guess, he'd hate the label, but he's a right-leaning libertarian.
Definitely not as conservative as he comes off in some posts, considering his anarchist statements.
Swimmingpool
09-02-2005, 01:37
If I had to guess, he'd hate the label, but he's a right-leaning libertarian.
Definitely not as conservative as he comes off in some posts, considering his anarchist statements.
He's not a staunch social conservative, but not a libertarian either. He is against abortion and drugs. He is also in favour of some protectionism. He agrees with the libertarians on almost everything else though.

I would put him strongly on the right of economics, and moderate on social issues.
Greater Wallachia
09-02-2005, 01:41
If updates are still possible

L/R -1.75
A/L 2.14

Thanks, this was very cool
Eichen
09-02-2005, 01:42
He's not a staunch social conservative, but not a libertarian either. He is against abortion and drugs. He is also in favour of some protectionism. He agrees with the libertarians on almost everything else though.

I would put him strongly on the right of economics, and moderate on social issues.
I wonder if his ears are ringing? :D
Reinmar
09-02-2005, 01:51
My results are:
R/L: 10
A/L: -4

Excellent work
Eichen
09-02-2005, 01:57
My results are:
R/L: 10
A/L: -4

Excellent work
Anarcho-capitalist in the hizouse! :)
Preebles
09-02-2005, 02:04
I am
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.13

Woo, go me.
Derscon
09-02-2005, 02:43
Yay! I made it on!

And this proves that there are too many liberal whackjobs on NS! ;)

Just kidding....

about the whackjob part, anyways. :)
New Genoa
09-02-2005, 12:48
1. Contrary to cliches, not all atheists are liberals.

I said some atheist liberals, referring to the some of the people part of the group of liberals who are atheists. And yes there are conservative, centrist, libertarian, [insert political group here] atheists. But usually they don't seem as vocal on these boards.

2. Most liberals are not anti-religious.

There are quite a few though. I, myself, dislike organized religion... but I don't usually just go out and attack members of the religion unless I feel they truly deserve it. And I know that there are religious liberals.
Swimmingpool
10-02-2005, 01:08
Anarcho-capitalist in the hizouse! :)
w3rd!
Jjuulliiaann
10-02-2005, 01:14
1. Contrary to cliches, not all atheists are liberals.

2. Most liberals are not anti-religious.

3. Those that are were probably only provoked by the Bush administration's justifying their social authoritarian policies with religion.
Well, I'm a liberal and an atheist, but what you say is true.
Helennia
10-02-2005, 01:27
I am
> Economic Left/Right: -9.25
> Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.13
Woo, go me.
I'm
>> Economic Left/Right: -5.00
>> Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.03
I'm near Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama ... is that a good thing?
Are they the sort of people I want to think like? I'm really not sure.
Zincite
10-02-2005, 01:37
That's funny, I thought I participated in that. I guess it was a different one. My government class just did that yesterday, and it's so hilarious - every single one of us is in quadrant III, except for one girl who is dead on the x-axis two units right.

It's fun to make comparisons. For example, if you draw a line from the origin to me, my boyfriend is about halfway between on that line.

(I'm at about -5.5, -7.5 BTW)
Swimmingpool
10-02-2005, 18:14
I'm
>> Economic Left/Right: -5.00
>> Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.03
I'm near Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama ... is that a good thing?
Are they the sort of people I want to think like? I'm really not sure.
I would love it if people would stop saying how they are near Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama. I'm sick of it. Congratulations... you're just like everyone else.
Kryozerkia
10-02-2005, 18:30
I don't think I was added...

Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.82

Mine! ^_^
Amyst
11-02-2005, 03:28
Wow. Awesome work.

And even though I despise this test, I want to be on the bandwagon. I mean, on the chart.

Economic left/right: 7.25
Social lib/auth: -4.24
Jjuulliiaann
12-02-2005, 02:29
Surprising, I think of myself as conservative, but came up as pretty close to Tony Blair's numbers.
Heh. From my viewpoint, Blair is about as conservative as they can get.
JRV
12-02-2005, 02:38
Heh. From my viewpoint, Blair is about as conservative as they can get.

Is it true that Mrs. Blair is quite liberal?? (His wife obviously.)
Democania
12-02-2005, 02:50
probably a bit late but
Economic Left/Right: -9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.36
old-school socialist in the house.
Boonytopia
12-02-2005, 03:02
Choice bro, good as gold!
Swimmingpool
12-02-2005, 03:24
Is it true that Mrs. Blair is quite liberal?? (His wife obviously.)
I don't know. It doesn't matter. I have heard that Laura Bush's views are more moderate than her husbands.
Eichen
12-02-2005, 03:36
Most Libertarian: Keruvalia
I have no beef with the guy, but this is just a bit misleading for obvious reasons. :rolleyes:
Perhaps Social libertarian, so not to confuse those not familiar with the actual political philosophy. I definitely see him drooling much more over Chomsky than Rand.

Why isn't this thread stickied? This definitely qualifies far more than "Breaking Up Threads" or "NS IRC Channels".
Neo-Anarchists
12-02-2005, 03:40
Why isn't this thread stickied? This definitely qualifies far more than "Breaking Up Threads" or "NS IRC Channels".
It's not stickied because (as has been stated a few times recently) there are too many, in many people's opinions, stickies already, and apparently this one is not, in the opinion of the moderators, worth kicking any of the others off.

At least, that's what I've been able to piece together. I'm nowhere near certain.
Eichen
12-02-2005, 03:42
It's not stickied because (as has been stated a few times recently) there are too many, in many people's opinions, stickies already, and apparently this one is not, in the opinion of the moderators, worth kicking any of the others off.

At least, that's what I've been able to piece together. I'm nowhere near certain.
I'd agree that there are enough stickies, but one was just added with less overall content and value (IMO) than this one. Time to clear some room for more relevance.
New Jyria
12-02-2005, 06:13
I submitted my score before, but it hasn't been added yet.

Economic Left/Right: -1.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.18

Whether you forgot or whatever there they are again. Thanks.
Carlinator
13-02-2005, 04:14
Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 7.59

Could you post the world leaders from the compass site, as well?
Jjuulliiaann
14-02-2005, 01:59
Could you post the world leaders from the compass site, as well?
Oh yeah. Maybe the composers too.
This is turning into quite a bit of work for Swimmingpool though, I think
**gives applause**
CSW
14-02-2005, 02:02
Know what the linear regression line looks like?
Nova Roma
14-02-2005, 02:16
Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95
Swimmingpool
14-02-2005, 02:17
I have no beef with the guy, but this is just a bit misleading for obvious reasons. :rolleyes:
Perhaps Social libertarian, so not to confuse those not familiar with the actual political philosophy. I definitely see him drooling much more over Chomsky than Rand.
Libertarian is the name of an American political party, not a philosophy. The political philosophy of the American Libertarian party is classic liberalism.
Swimmingpool
14-02-2005, 02:19
Economic Left/Right: 10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95
anarcho-capitalist in da hizouse!
Derscon
14-02-2005, 02:31
Libertarian is the name of an American political party, not a philosophy. The political philosophy of the American Libertarian party is classic liberalism.

I assume you mean "classic" liberalism as "no government except for building a military and roads," right? Because the Libertarian Party is a FAR STRECH from modern liberals.
Swimmingpool
14-02-2005, 02:41
I assume you mean "classic" liberalism as "no government except for building a military and roads," right? Because the Libertarian Party is a FAR STRECH from modern liberals.
yes

that's why i said classic liberalism
Tribal Ecology
14-02-2005, 22:29
Economical liberalism is stupid. There are lots of greedy people out there that do anything for money. They harm people and nature with their practices. Corporate irresponsibility is fucking up our world already.
VoteEarly
15-02-2005, 05:16
Economic 6.00
Social 8.77
VoteEarly
15-02-2005, 05:24
Hmmm, the last results were a few days old, I took it again, this time not drunk, and got this.


Economic Left/Right: 7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 8.97
Bitchkitten
15-02-2005, 05:48
Hmmm, the last results were a few days old, I took it again, this time not drunk, and got this.


Economic Left/Right: 7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 8.97

Oh boy, I like you better drunk. :p
Syskeyia
15-02-2005, 06:12
My political compass?
Economic Left/Right: -1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.64
Rheinlandistan
15-02-2005, 06:16
Economic Left/Right: 5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.51
North Island
15-02-2005, 06:34
I am not really sure how this works but here is North Islands political
Compass in a way.



I support the IIP-Icelandic Independance Party
A united political party of the Conservative and Liberal wings.
I support the Conservative wing of the party.

http://xd.is/xd/intern
If someone can make a more Political Compass friendly summary for me then please do so.
I am not really sure what you people are doing with the Left/Right -+ thing.
Neo-Anarchists
15-02-2005, 06:36
I am not really sure what you people are doing with the Left/Right -+ thing.
They are taking a quiz here:
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/
Kecibukia
15-02-2005, 06:38
Tis' mine:

Economic Left/Right: 0.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.23
North Island
15-02-2005, 06:42
They are taking a quiz here:
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/
T
Thank you
SenatorHoser
15-02-2005, 06:56
Economic Left/Right: -6.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.74
North Island
15-02-2005, 07:07
Economic Left/Right: -2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.41

I don't think that is right.
Argyres
15-02-2005, 08:32
Economic Left/Right: 3.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.90
Evil Woody Thoughts
15-02-2005, 10:17
Hey, can you please add me? :)

Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18

Should also be in my sig
Swimmingpool
15-02-2005, 10:24
Hmmm, the last results were a few days old, I took it again, this time not drunk, and got this.


Economic Left/Right: 7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 8.97
Congrats, with a social score of 8.97, you're the most authoritarian dictator on NS!
Evil Woody Thoughts
15-02-2005, 10:29
Congrats, with a social score of 8.97, you're the most authoritarian dictator on NS!

VoteEarly, just a thought, you might wanna add that to your sig :D

You do seem to enjoy roleplaying it, after all.
Swimmingpool
15-02-2005, 10:34
VoteEarly, just a thought, you might wanna add that to your sig :D

You do seem to enjoy roleplaying it, after all.
With a social score like that, I'm surprised he was drunk. I thought he would be into banning alcohol.
Gordenia
17-02-2005, 22:32
My political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.51
Squornshelous
19-02-2005, 07:38
My Political Compass Results:
Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.33
Five Civilized Nations
19-02-2005, 07:48
Economic Left/Right: 2.31
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31