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American Fascist Party (much more info, no neo-Nazi's need apply!)

Fascist Emerica
05-02-2005, 19:16
Greetings,

I represent the American Fascist Party. We are a revolutionary group that is set out to educate people about what Fascism is really about. We are a real life minor political group looking to expand our base and get our party leader and presidential candidate Seth Tyrssen onto ballots and into the office for 2008. We are a party that is open to anyone no matter what race, religion, or skin color you are. We do not believe in racism nor do we condone any acts of violence.

We are not by any means a neo-Nazi based group! Anyone that joins who is suspected of being and or promoting Nazi ideals will be ejected from the party.

There is a big difference between Nazism and Fascism! This may surprise most educated people. But one of the more common government strategies today, especially in developing regions is fascism. Fascism is commonly confused with Nazism. Nazism is a political party platform that embraces a combination of a military dictatorship, socialism and fascism. It is not a government structure. Fascism is a government structure.

With that little matter cleared up. Below is a basic outline of what the AFP stands for.

On alot of the issues, its based on your individual choice. You should be in control of who and what you are!

Government Structure: As it is obvious to most, the current government system has become a gang of self-serving crooks who have sold out our great nation and betrayed the trust of the American people. There are a few exceptional individuals, of course, but for the most part this is true. The AFP wants a strong moral government with a strong leader, however we are also well aware that, as Thomas Jefferson said, "government is best which governs least." We advocate a return to true states rights, individual responsibility, and individual freedom.

Economics: The government says everything is fine, and it is...for them. They continue to steal vast amounts of your money in the name of taxes, which they spend like water for nonsensical "projects," or, in many cases, on themselves. Further, our current economic base is tied to a world monetary system, subject to recession and depression. We should withdraw from this flawed system, and once again base the American economy on the productivity of the American worker.

Foreign Policy: Although we are not isolationists, the AFP belief is that our best foreign policy is to stay at home. Events over the past four decades certainly prove this. American troops are being used as pawns in an international chess game by cynical politicians whose only motive is profiteering greed. Veterans from the last several wars have been stabbed in the back; yet they're expected to be loyal to the government that betrayed them. If you have any further questions about this subject, just ask a vet. We have enough problems right here in America to worry about first!

Environment: Politicians have literally been murder on the enviroment - and if that goes, all other issues will be a moot point.

Right to bear arms: Our founders knew what they were talking about. Gun control is people control! And laws which disarm the innocent only promote crime.

United Nations or America First: Quite simply, we can't have both. Why we continue to belong to the U.N., an organization obviously opposed to our national interests, I do not understand. In fact, since the goal of the U.N. is to ultimately redistribute as much of the power and wealth of the U.S. among the nations of the world as they possibly can, they are best defined as our nation's enemy. It is simply the old Marxist class struggle in an international format, that since the U.S., in their eyes, is greedy for holding so much wealth, power, and influence, therefore it is the responsibility of our nation to share such greatness with other nations. In that way, the U.N. will even the score by placing the U.S. on the same "playing field" with other U.N. member nations. This is complete nonsense, and opposes all the nationalism/patriotism that has made our nation great. What would our founders think if they saw this! We have fallen way off the tree they planted, and the U.N. wants the original tree chopped down to boot. We must leave the U.N. completely, and have no further association with such international communism. Alliances and economic assistance should of course continue where it suits our national interests to do so, but we no longer should be the bread basket, finance company, employer, or welfare providers to the rest of the world. America First, and foremost in all things, we have much to fix right here at home, before we go bailing out everyone else around the globe.


If this sounds like you, then you may already be a Fascist! The AFP's OFFICIAL DOT COM WEBSITE IS COMING SOON!(mid-February) for now there TEMPORARY website is located at

http://www.geocities.com/amfascpty/

To become a member of the American Fascist Party, register at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fascistpartyofamerica/

Or write to:

American Fascist Party
P.O. Box 78
Garfield, GA 30425


Also on the group page you can find a lot more info about our party leader and other news and info about the AFP. If you have any questions that you would like to ask, feel free to email me at kingkobra619@myway.com or email our party leader Seth Tyrssen

Regards,
American Fascist Party


And for those doubters that think this is not a real party, here is the proof we are!

http://www.dcpoliticalreport.com/PartyLink.htm
Dogburg
05-02-2005, 19:24
Government Structure: As it is obvious to most, the current government system has become a gang of self-serving crooks who have sold out our great nation and betrayed the trust of the American people. There are a few exceptional individuals, of course, but for the most part this is true. The AFP wants a strong moral government with a strong leader, however we are also well aware that, as Thomas Jefferson said, "government is best which governs least." We advocate a return to true states rights, individual responsibility, and individual freedom.

Economics: The government says everything is fine, and it is...for them. They continue to steal vast amounts of your money in the name of taxes, which they spend like water for nonsensical "projects," or, in many cases, on themselves. Further, our current economic base is tied to a world monetary system, subject to recession and depression. We should withdraw from this flawed system, and once again base the American economy on the productivity of the American worker.


That economic standpoint is just a rip off of that of the american libertarian party, who have nothing to do with fascism, a nationalistic, military dictatorship style of elitism and governmental intervention which was pioneered by Benito Mussolini. And no, ol' Ben hasn't been a victim of media demonization, he actually governed his country in that way and was proud of it.
Fascist Emerica
05-02-2005, 19:32
That economic standpoint is just a rip off of that of the american libertarian party, who have nothing to do with fascism, a nationalistic, military dictatorship style of elitism and governmental intervention which was pioneered by Benito Mussolini. And no, ol' Ben hasn't been a victim of media demonization, he actually governed his country in that way and was proud of it.

Just because Mussolini has alot to do with Fascism everyone thinks that we MUST base our beliefs on his style of govt. Wrong! Dead wrong! Political parties have and will continue to change there style to meet the needs of the times. While this may be based on the basic princable set forth by Mussolini it also incorporates the ideologies of Sir Oswald Mosely and our own beliefs for a better America.
Ramissle
05-02-2005, 19:35
Dude, there isn't even a real website. Thats just geocities. I'm starting to get suspicious.....
Dogburg
05-02-2005, 19:37
Dude, there isn't even a real website. Thats just geocities. I'm starting to get suspicious.....

Yeah, I'm starting to think that Seth Whateverhisnameis is the guy posting, and probably the only current member of the AFP.
Fascist Emerica
05-02-2005, 19:37
Dude, there isn't even a real website. Thats just geocities. I'm starting to get suspicious.....

Dude, did you not read the entire thing!? the dot com website is coming in mid-february! There is a long story behind why this is!
Andaluciae
05-02-2005, 19:37
*Yawn*

Fascism sucks.
Fascist Emerica
05-02-2005, 19:41
And for proof of our existence

http://www.dcpoliticalreport.com/PartyLink.htm
Nosles
05-02-2005, 19:42
seems like you try to make it out to be a perfect government system, which is odd. why don't you tell us whats wrong with your party? no system can be perfect as you make yours sound to be.
Fascist Emerica
05-02-2005, 19:43
Everyone makes there party out to be perfect! Do you hear the Democrats or the Republicans gloating about there flaws? NO!
Nosles
05-02-2005, 19:45
No you dont need to hear them tell there own flaws, they got each other for that. As for the fascist party, they got no one because its a going no where group. so once again, i ask you to tell me some flaws.
Fascist Emerica
05-02-2005, 19:48
No you dont need to hear them tell there own flaws, they got each other for that. As for the fascist party, they got no one because its a going no where group. so once again, i ask you to tell me some flaws.

Again, party members dont see any flaws in there style of government! If you want some "flaws" that we may have then ask another member of a different political organization.
Dogburg
05-02-2005, 19:49
Not only is the AFP website hosted at geocities, it was made in Microsoft Word.

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****** http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
****** name=ProgId content=Word.Document>
****** name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 9">
****** name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 9">

That's right folks, amongst their nationwide countless horde of loyal members and supporters, it seems nobody knows basic HTML.

*Edit*: Sorry, the forum seems to be filtering out the beginnings of the meta tags which were in my quote. Anyway, the "******"'s initially read "<" followed by "meta".
Nosles
05-02-2005, 19:50
Again, party members dont see any flaws in there style of government! If you want some "flaws" that we may have then ask another member of a different political organization.
because im asking YOU, if you think your style of government is perfect, you're iggnorant. why am I even posting here? Obviously your government is desperate considering you're trying to get people to join by using a freagin' net game.
Fascist Emerica
05-02-2005, 19:57
Not only is the AFP website hosted at geocities, it was made in Microsoft Word.



That's right folks, amongst their nationwide countless horde of loyal members and supporters, it seems nobody knows basic HTML.

*Edit*: Sorry, the forum seems to be filtering out the beginnings of the meta tags which were in my quote. Anyway, the "******"'s initially read "<" followed by "meta".


WHAT!? You obviously have no clue of what your talking about! All of the emails sent to me by the party leader are in HTML! For example -

http://e4.email.myway.com/viewer.php/?m=0&mid=432&p=2&ArdSI=f7488d7967812ba9ce42fe5bba496d53
Dogburg
05-02-2005, 20:18
WHAT!? You obviously have no clue of what your talking about! All of the emails sent to me by the party leader are in HTML!

Then why'd he make his website in MS word?
Fascist Emerica
05-02-2005, 20:23
Then why'd he make his website in MS word?


Again, (for the thousandth time) the website at present is only TEMPORARY. The dot com website is coming soon (prolly in mid-february) which I'm sure will have loads of HTML for ya.
Nationalist Valhalla
05-02-2005, 20:35
WHAT!? You obviously have no clue of what your talking about! All of the emails sent to me by the party leader are in HTML! For example -

http://e4.email.myway.com/viewer.php/?m=0&mid=432&p=2&ArdSI=f7488d7967812ba9ce42fe5bba496d53

so is he your great leader or just your email buddy or both?

we in the Nationalist Cell Groups of Bezerker Holy War have no website, cuz the net is a tool of ZOG, and we asssume anyone who even knows what HTML stands for is a minion of the International Banking Cabal and must be purged.
Nsendalen
05-02-2005, 20:42
Good to see you elaborated more, FA.

*puts on flowing cloak and big hat*

My work here is done...

*strides outside, right into a lamppost :S *
Schoeningia
05-02-2005, 20:53
Good to see that we in the country where fascism had done it's greatest harm aren't the only ones who have problems with such jerks. :rolleyes:
Heikoku
05-02-2005, 23:49
Good to see that we in the country where fascism had done it's greatest harm aren't the only ones who have problems with such jerks. :rolleyes:

Trust me, if a fascist was elected POTUS, I'd make sure Bin Laden would become a fond memory to the idiotic murderers that elected a fascist.
Andaluciae
05-02-2005, 23:52
Hmmm...let's see...

How about this. If a fascist gets elected to the Presidency in my lifetime, well...

Canada, can I seek asylum, please?
Dogburg
06-02-2005, 00:06
Hmmm...let's see...

How about this. If a fascist gets elected to the Presidency in my lifetime, well...

Canada, can I seek asylum, please?

But of course if the AFP as advertised in this post came to power, they wouldn't represent much of a threat, since they don't actually have any clearly defined policy or political stance. "Oh yeah, we're authoritarian libertarian nazis who don't believe in racism or nationalism, or maybe we do, but we don't really know"
Heikoku
06-02-2005, 18:32
But of course if the AFP as advertised in this post came to power, they wouldn't represent much of a threat, since they don't actually have any clearly defined policy or political stance. "Oh yeah, we're authoritarian libertarian nazis who don't believe in racism or nationalism, or maybe we do, but we don't really know"

Yeah, you do have a point, Dogburg, but still someone that thinks a THING (not person) such as Mussolini deserves anything near respect is someone with really crazy and warped ideas.
Neo-Anarchists
06-02-2005, 18:58
Hmm...
Government structure has not been elaborated on.
What sort of "strong and moral" government?
Nationalist Valhalla
06-02-2005, 19:10
Hmm...
Government structure has not been elaborated on.
What sort of "strong and moral" government?
Imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever
Evil Arch Conservative
06-02-2005, 19:17
I've heard of the party, so I'm sure it exists.

I read over your post and it seems rational enough. In fact, it sounds very similar to the Libertarian party's platform. Maybe you guys should combine forces. Is there any difference?
Democratica City
08-02-2005, 06:55
Is there any difference?

Don't be ridiculous. The LP is America's Third Party, with hundreds of appointed and elected officials and huge electoral margins across the nation.

Not only are Libertarians beginning to gain huge electoral sums in states like Massachusetts, where they placed with 19% in the last U.S. Senate race, but Libertarians in Washington State actually used their voting power to swing the election of the next governor.

There's no sense in even beginning to make comparison's between Tyrssen's half-assed social club and the biggest and fastest growing Third Party political force in the country.
Evil Arch Conservative
08-02-2005, 07:14
Is there any difference?

Don't be ridiculous. The LP is America's Third Party, with hundreds of appointed and elected officials and huge electoral margins across the nation.

Not only are Libertarians beginning to gain huge electoral sums in states like Massachusetts, where they placed with 19% in the last U.S. Senate race, but Libertarians in Washington State actually used their voting power to swing the election of the next governor.

There's no sense in even beginning to make comparison's between Tyrssen's half-assed social club and the biggest and fastest growing Third Party political force in the country.

I'm not comparing their membership numbers. I'm comparing their platforms.
Hammolopolis
08-02-2005, 07:19
words
Don't you ever get tired of advertising your webpage every week or so, getting made fun of, and then leaving only to do it all over again? This is getting repetitive.
Weapons of Mass Terror
08-02-2005, 07:20
WHAT!? You obviously have no clue of what your talking about! All of the emails sent to me by the party leader are in HTML! For example -

http://e4.email.myway.com/viewer.php/?m=0&mid=432&p=2&ArdSI=f7488d7967812ba9ce42fe5bba496d53

Those of you wondering about the "government stance" on any issue by the American Fascist Party can simply change the text of the above quote. For example:

"WHAT!? You obviously have no clue of what your talking about! There are tons of differences between the Fascists and the Libertarians, and the Fascists are undoubtedly better!"
Sileetris
08-02-2005, 08:09
Looking at this from a strictly third-person view I can say that their platform seems to be rather like the libertarians and overall pretty harmless compared to what the myriad of ensuing asshole posts make it out to be.

Also, you should change the name so it doesn't include the word facism in it. People are trained to equate facism with evil tyranny so even if you have nothing devious planned they'll tend to assume you do. Its just a bad product label, like if you were to name a sports-shoe company Squeeky Gramp's Inflatable Orthopedics. With a different label and some competent politicking I'm sure you guys could get some representation.
Dezard
08-02-2005, 08:21
Oh! Can I help tell people What fascism Really is?


Fascism means any system of government resembling Mussolini's, that

1) exalts nation and sometimes race above the individual,
2) uses violence and modern techniques of propaganda and censorship to forcibly suppress political opposition,
3) engages in severe economic and social regimentation.
4) engages in corporatism

Not a popular political view but it is the way they run Wal-Mart.
Ice Hockey Players
08-02-2005, 08:59
The American Fascist Party doesn't look very fascist to me...fascism employs a strong central government, while the AFP emphasizes states' right over a strong federal system. I also notice that nationalism certainly doesn't take the typical form...instead of "We're number one and we'll kill you if you disagree", it more of "We're number one, and go fuck yourself; we're going home." It looks more isolationist to me, despite the fact that they insist they are not isolationist...they sure as hell look like it. The American currency has been on some international standard for a couple of centuries; to yank it off this system is questionable at best and insane at worst. But enough critiquing the AFP's policies; after all, their name is enough of a misnomer already.