NationStates Jolt Archive


O'Reilly gets fact-checked

Bunglejinx
05-02-2005, 16:46
http://homepage.mac.com/onegoodmove/movies/oreillyfrenchboycott.html

O'Reilly on the French Boycott.
DrunkenDove
05-02-2005, 17:04
Stupid quicktime.

Any chance of a summary of what happened?
Kusarii
05-02-2005, 17:08
Lol, thats funny.

I don't really know who this guy is, but the fact that he's making up publications and statistics while on the air of a major US news broadcaster is just funny:P
Stormforge
05-02-2005, 17:08
Basically O'Reilly said some things about the American boycott of French goods. Turns out the things he said were untrue.

1. The "boycott" has severly impacted the French economy. False.

2. He referenced some journal that apparently doesn't exist.
All Things Fabulous
05-02-2005, 17:56
At least what Dan Rather makes up MIGHT be true... :D
Via Ferrata
05-02-2005, 17:58
Well said, he is so busted (again) for his anti French (or call it anti EU) fascisme and hate.

What an asshole, he belongs in jail on the accusation of spreading hate and xenophobia (against Europeans or muslims).

Like the review he invented (I have not seen it, he better said something like "L'echo de la bourse"), he invented most things in the past to.
He is real lier like Goebels. People should now and he should shame himself for caling himself a US citizen, guys like this together with the Abu Graib scum, Rummy and Pearl are responsible for the downfall of the image and democratic leadership of the US.
Armed Bookworms
05-02-2005, 18:06
Whether or not there has been major hurt to the total French economy, it is true that French wine sales in the US fell at least a while ago. I don't know if they have started to climb back up to what they were before that plummet or not.
Theweakperish
05-02-2005, 18:17
Is known, basic staple stuff has dropped off considerably in the US, and hurt small sectors of the French economy. check their "wine dump" or whatever their fermentation disposal for this year....biggest ever. But i think that is the easy "boycott" and what Americans know is french. most of french exports are basically untouched, there is a lot more french products exported here than americans realize, methinks.

And your comment on "prosecuting" O'Reilly for saying whatever he wants really, is horrifying. If America can be criticized, and it can and should be, Euro, French, and Islamic peoples' and countries SURE as hell can to. Freedom of speech is not just for one side.
Via Ferrata
05-02-2005, 18:25
, it is true that French wine sales in the US fell at least a while ago. .

That is true but the reason is not a boycot. It is the same here in Europe and you can hardly say that we boycot our so respected friends (since they stend up against Bush and his wars, enviroment catastrophy aso.).

As a wine freak (US and even Canadian icewine too) I can say you that they even lost some market% on their homemarket. This is explained by the concurence of Spain, Italy, South Africa and mainly Aussie wine, wich sell wines coming from a hotter climate and have it easier to make sun bursted cheap wines.

But the marketpart wich suffers from the international concurrence is mostly the ones that are priced between 5/8 €. The more expensive till hyperexpensive wines still sell well because at that pricelevell we find that the top Aussie wines are as expensive as the French, specially when it comes to red Rhone wines (Hermitage, Cote Rotie, Chateauneuf du Pape, Gigondas, Vaqueyras aso) and the Grand Cru Classés from Bordeaux (the great Chateaus like Lafite and Mouton Rotschild, Pétrus aso) and the Burgundy wines. All those have reached year after year higher prices since the seventies, and continue to cost more, specially under the influence of the US, Japanese, German and Belgian market (special case for Belgium since they are the 4th importer of Bordeaux worldwide, Dutch market only buys the cheap products).
Domici
05-02-2005, 18:45
Bill O' Reilly gets fact-checked regularly. Air America catches him in so many lies that it's a regular feature on some of their shows.

As I write this post I just heard them play a clip of Bill talking down to one of his callers telling him that Barbara Boxer didn't accuse Condi of not supporting the TROOPS but not regarding the TRUTH. Bill just went on and on about how if you're going to call the "Factor" then you have to get your facts straight. BTW Boxer said truth, not troops.

I think we should be allowed to sue him for false advertising. No Spin Zone my ass! That show spins more than the room at a frat party. The only way any sort of fact check would get through to O'Reilly is if it was delivered hockey style.

Now that's a show I'd watch. Anyone who catches Bill O'Reilly in a lie can take him to an the ice skating rink at Rockerfeller center and hockey check him.
Bushrepublican liars
05-02-2005, 18:52
Best thing a men can do with that kind of dangerous liers, dangerous since the stupid and uneducated republican (neo ons in special) half of the US believes the men, is to make a 9mm hole in his head. Really I want to give 2000$ for the heroes defence in court that does it.
New Granada
05-02-2005, 19:18
Whether or not there has been major hurt to the total French economy, it is true that French wine sales in the US fell at least a while ago. I don't know if they have started to climb back up to what they were before that plummet or not.


It is fortunate for the french wine industry that the sort of people who respect Bill O'reilly dont appreciate fine wine.
Armed Bookworms
05-02-2005, 19:29
It is fortunate for the french wine industry that the sort of people who respect Bill O'reilly dont appreciate fine wine.
Except the plummet probably has nothing to do with him and in that particular clip he didn't claim credit for said boycott, but whatever.
Zeppistan
05-02-2005, 19:30
One of his complete abdications from truthful reporting recently that just cracked me up was he was interviewing a Canadian conservative journalist on his show and asked her some very leading questions to try and give the impression that there was almost no conservative press in Canada, and even asked her if she ever felt in personal danger from the liberal majority.

Because lynchin's are just so popular up here...


So the next day I flip open the paper to read his column in the Ottawa Sun.

You'd think a guy who is actually getting paid for his writings up here might have a clue that yes indeed - there is room in the press for conservative opinions....
New Granada
05-02-2005, 19:39
Except the plummet probably has nothing to do with him and in that particular clip he didn't claim credit for said boycott, but whatever.



California wines and nowadays, to some extent the pathetic dollar have some to do with it.

Bill o'centrifuge sells stickers that say "boycott france."
Bunglejinx
05-02-2005, 19:57
California wines and nowadays, to some extent the pathetic dollar have some to do with it.

Bill o'centrifuge sells stickers that say "boycott france."

Whether O'Reilly is taking part in the boycott is a different subject from whether he is making it successfull.