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Can ANYONE here figure this out? ( It's driving me crazy! )

Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 16:46
http://www.dslextreme.com/users/exstatica/psychic.swf
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 16:48
Wow, that's really tripped out. Sombody please explain how it's done.
Alien Born
05-02-2005, 16:52
Sum the digits of any two digit number, then subtract this from the original number always results in a multiple of 9. On the chart, all the multiples of 9 have the same symbol. Easy huh.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 16:52
It screwed up my last two, but so far it's doing much better than would be expected from random chance.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 16:54
Sum the digits of any two digit number, then subtract this from the original number always results in a multiple of 9. On the chart, all the multiples of 9 have the same symbol. Easy huh.
I checked. 9, 90, and 99 all have different symbols.
Stormforge
05-02-2005, 16:54
Sum the digits of any two digit number, then subtract this from the original number always results in a multiple of 9. On the chart, all the multiples of 9 have the same symbol. Easy huh.Exactly.

EDIT: It only has to work up to 81.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 16:55
It's screwing up now. Four times in a row.
Alien Born
05-02-2005, 16:56
You simply can not get 90 or 99 using the method specified. These are red herrings. To get 90 you would have to have a number higher than 90, and then subtract the sum of these digits from a number that is 99 or lower. The best you can do is 91. Sum =10, result is 81.
Alien Born
05-02-2005, 16:57
It's screwing up now. Four times in a row.

recheck your arithmetic, it will work every time. No mystery, no psychic power, just basic math.
Stormforge
05-02-2005, 16:57
It's screwing up now. Four times in a row.Perhaps you're doing your math wrong?
Fimble loving peoples
05-02-2005, 16:57
I checked. 9, 90, and 99 all have different symbols.

90 and 99 can't be answers, that is why, all the other multiples have the same picture though.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 16:57
You simply can not get 90 or 99 using the method specified. These are red herrings. To get 90 you would have to have a number higher than 90, and then subtract the sum of these digits from a number that is 99 or lower. The best you can do is 91. Sum =10, result is 81.
Ok, but I'm getting it to screw up somehow. Plus it doesn't always spit out the same symbols.
Deetag
05-02-2005, 16:59
I did it 5 times, worked twice.
=-(
Fimble loving peoples
05-02-2005, 16:59
Ok, but I'm getting it to screw up somehow. Plus it doesn't always spit out the same symbols.

Because the symbols over the multiples of 9 change each time.

EDIT: I think you're doing it too quick. I got it to go wrong if I clicked the ball relatively quickly.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 17:00
Perhaps you're doing your math wrong?
I can't get simple math wrong that many times in a row. Just adding two digits and subtracting them from another number.
San haiti
05-02-2005, 17:00
Ok, but I'm getting it to screw up somehow. Plus it doesn't always spit out the same symbols.

It never screws up, if you dont have the same symbol as it, you did your arithmetic wrong. Plus the symbols for all the multiples of 9 except 90 and 99 change each time but remain the same as each other so it looks like you're getting different answers.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 17:01
Because the symbols over the multiples of 9 change each time.
Oh, that explains it. I had started checking the symbols after clicking the ball.
Alien Born
05-02-2005, 17:02
I can't get simple math wrong that many times in a row. Just adding two digits and subtracting them from another number.

If it gives a symbol diferent to the one that you looked up on the table, then either your maths is wrong, or you made a mistake looking up the symbol. (or both, to make the possibilities all inclusive). Numbers do not lie.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 17:04
I didn't know whether to be more weirded out by the "mind reader" or by the possibility that I had forgotten how to add and subtract.
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 17:10
It never screws up, if you dont have the same symbol as it, you did your arithmetic wrong. Plus the symbols for all the multiples of 9 except 90 and 99 change each time but remain the same as each other so it looks like you're getting different answers.

I figured it was my weakness in math coming back to haunt me! Sigh! :(
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 17:12
I didn't know whether to be more weirded out by the "mind reader" or by the possibility that I had forgotten how to add and subtract.

Ditto. It's the ole "use it or lose it" syndrome redoux. Makes me feel sorry for those who never have sex. ;)
Stormforge
05-02-2005, 17:13
I didn't know whether to be more weirded out by the "mind reader" or by the possibility that I had forgotten how to add and subtract.Whenever you see anything involving manipulating numbers like that, just assume it's math rearing its ugly head. After that, finding out what's actually going on is pretty simple.
Ninjadom Revival
05-02-2005, 17:14
Sum the digits of any two digit number, then subtract this from the original number always results in a multiple of 9. On the chart, all the multiples of 9 have the same symbol. Easy huh.
That's correct.
The fact that you have to perform a mathematical operation each time should be an indicator that it is a mathematic conundrum. Like was just said by Alien Born, you'll notice that 9, 18, 27, 36, 45, 54, 63, 72, and 81 all have the same symbol. 90 and 99, also multiples of 9 which on this chart, do not have that symbol (which changes with each reload) because the highest number that can be achieved through those instructions is 81 (and 9, of course, is the lowest).
Occidio Multus
05-02-2005, 17:53
i am surprised none of you noticed that the correlating numbers and symbols change each time, also.

take a screenshot.

not a forensic scientist in this bunch.
Branin
05-02-2005, 17:55
It's screwing up now. Four times in a row.
Then you are doing your math wrong. It works, because there are very limited possibilities as to the result, and they all have the same symbol. Pratice subtraction.
Alien Born
05-02-2005, 18:03
i am surprised none of you noticed that the correlating numbers and symbols change each time, also.

take a screenshot.

not a forensic scientist in this bunch.

No, I am a logician, so I went, got the data, and gave the answer. No forensics or otherwise messy empirical stuff needed.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 18:17
Then you are doing your math wrong. It works, because there are very limited possibilities as to the result, and they all have the same symbol. Pratice subtraction.
The problem was that I was checking the symbols only after I clicked the crystal ball in every instance where it "screwed up". Since the symbols change each time I had no chance of matching them up.
Occidio Multus
05-02-2005, 18:23
No, I am a logician, so I went, got the data, and gave the answer. No forensics or otherwise messy empirical stuff needed.
oh jeez. i meant none of you notices details. gat a joke, will you?
The Infinite Dunes
05-02-2005, 18:29
Hahahaha! You've never seen this before? Note how the numbers are in listed in desending numerical order. It relies on you trying to find the number. Most people will use the mouse to help them. It puts up the symbol where your pointer was before you rushed over to click the big blue circle. At least that's how I think it works. There was another one like this that worked like that.

edit: I didn't even read the instructions... it even asks you to concentrate on the symbol for a while. The vast majority of people would use their pointer if they were going to do this.

No maths, just Macromedia Flash.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 18:31
Hahahaha! You've never seen this before? Not how the numbers are in listed in desending numerical order. It relies on you trying to find the number. Most people will use the mouse to help them. It puts up the symbol where your pointer was before you rushed over to click the big blue circle. At least that's how I think it works. There was another one like this that worked like that.
That was the first thing I thought of, but I tried it without the mouse and it still worked.
The Infinite Dunes
05-02-2005, 18:33
try fooling it by moving your most to the wrong icon. It repeats the icons, so your mouse may have hovered over an identical icon by accident.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 18:34
try fooling it by moving your most to the wrong icon. It repeats the icons, so your mouse may have hovered over an identical icon by accident.
No, I think the mathematical solution proposed earlier is correct.
The Infinite Dunes
05-02-2005, 18:40
bah, the maths is right. But why does it make 0 a different symbol then?

edit: because you choose a 2-digit number x_x