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Just a ponder, I'm a pessermist but I think that is the best way to be, if you think thing can go wrong and it does they you are braced, if not it is an unexpected bonus. What are your thoughts?

I know it sounds like a smart ass response, but I honestly do just say 'half a glass.' Maybe that means that I look at things like they are now rather than where they are going. Or it could mean that I approach the sentence different.

But really, half full and half empty are directions. I don't know that filling the glass is all that optomistic. You still need more water. Half empty, you've taken what you needed and you only needed half the glass.

None of this helps, does it?

Well, optimistic people often are much happier, but the pessimists most often are more inciteful, and have a better awareness of the world--not so naive.

What matters is what you intend to do about it, not if you see it as half full or half empty.

I know it sounds like a smart ass response, but I honestly do just say 'half a glass.' Maybe that means that I look at things like they are now rather than where they are going. Or it could mean that I approach the sentence different.
So, in other words, there is no past or future, only the here in now? The water has not been going in any direction, it is simply half a glass.

If you can see the glass, you're doing well already.

What matters is what you intend to do about it, not if you see it as half full or half empty.

Lol. True..

The question is... If it's a beer. Why the hell is it half?

So, in other words, there is no past or future, only the here in now? The water has not been going in any direction, it is simply half a glass.
Yeah, thats about it. But remember, it could also be just a bunch of nonsense I made up to be philosophical about how I describe water in a cup...

Yeah, thats about it. But remember, it could also be just a bunch of nonsense I made up to be philosophical about how I describe water in a cup...
Right. Well, you know I'm tired when I start to take threads too seriously.

I don't think that either veiwpoint is particularly advantageous in and of itself. Half empty is perhaps the healthier(more realistic) viewpoint when applied to the small and medium stuff, but half full is probably "better" when applying the large concepts. Is the glass too big or is the portion too small? I don't really think about most things as directly valued, but only valuable in certain contexts. I tend to go with the flow without thought to optimism or pessimism. The world will be what it is no matter what I expect or want it to be, no mind, only matter. Action and contemplation can effect this, but not a better-worse evaluation.
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I'm optimistic, so it's half empty, which is better than totally empty.

Half full is less than full and sounds like there is something missing.

Just a ponder, I'm a pessermist but I think that is the best way to be, if you think thing can go wrong and it does they you are braced, if not it is an unexpected bonus. What are your thoughts?

Depends upon what's in the damned glass! If it's half-full or half-empty of water it doesn't matter. But if it's half-empty or half-full of a good Irish whiskey, drink the rest and break the glass on the fireplace! :D

Grasshopper, there is no water. There is no glass. The desire to be full or empty is the question to be solved. Why desire? ;)

If you're filling it, it's half full ... if you're drinking it, it's half empty.

Its half empty, but if you can distract the guy next to you and steal his glass...then you've got a full pint!
*Dances*

Depends upon what's in the damned glass! If it's half-full or half-empty of water it doesn't matter. But if it's half-empty or half-full of a good Irish whiskey, drink the rest and break the glass on the fireplace! :D
Its half empty, but if you can distract the guy next to you and steal his glass...then you've got a full pint!
*Dances*
Keep an eye on the Irish

Is today official Irish day or something? I was even wearing green and orange today... :rolleyes:

That's not my glass, my glass was bigger, and was full.

Who cares? As long as it's appleade and not pis... sommat else.

Hmm... I'd prefer to see the glass as either half-full from an optimistic view, or half-empty from an optimistic view... :hmm:

We really need to hunt down whoever came up with all this half-full/-empty crap. Along with the guy who made up the chicken and the egg issue.

The glass is at 50% capacity. There is no need to get emotional about it, humanoids.

The glass is twice as big as it needs to be. Whichever engineer designed that glass should be fired for inefficiency.

...ok, jokes aside, I'd go with half-full.

Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

Is it better to see the glass half full or half empty??

*slurp* *burp* now empty! :>

Well, jokes aside, I am pretty pessimistic. "I always expect the worst, I won't be deceived" (Sirius Rising - Silence between the Stars (What I am) )

if u only fill the glas to the half its half full
if u fill it full and drink the half than its half empty

It's not "is the glass half empty or half full?" it's "Why is it there, where did it come from and is there more?"

The glass is neither half full nor half empty. It's too big. Lower your expectations.

I'm just a realist. I know the glass has something in it, but I know I'm likely to knock it over and spill it at any time.

I'm just a realist. I know the glass has something in it, but I know I'm likely to knock it over and spill it at any time.


I like that.... sort of a chandler bing comment.


what is with all the old drinking jokes??? it's like being at a Jim Davidson show... (Very old material)

I like that.... sort of a chandler bing comment.


what is with all the old drinking jokes??? it's like being at a Jim Davidson show... (Very old material)

HA! My friends say I'm the female version of Chandler. Sarcastic as hell but funny.

It's definately harder to be optimistic. It needs a lot of courage to be a little bit naive, but I think it's worth it. You see more good things around you if you're open for them. (and bad, but that's the price you pay) And I think a naive person doesn't have to be unaware of facts. She just prefers to believe that things can always get better.

But my glass is totally empty :(
I know it was one of you! ...damn bastards... :[
oh well, I'll just fill it again.

If you're filling it, it's half full ... if you're drinking it, it's half empty.

Damn you, I was going to say that! :mad:

I generally prefer to expect to find the glass half empty, and then be pleasently surprised when I find it half full :cool:

Is today official Irish day or something? I was even wearing green and orange today... :rolleyes:

Wow! You would look stunning in green and orange! :D

who cares if its half full or half empty, the only real question is
IS THERE ENOUGH WATER IN THAT GLASS TO QUENCH MY THIRST?

realists get more done.

who cares if its half full or half empty, the only real question is
IS THERE ENOUGH WATER IN THAT GLASS TO QUENCH MY THIRST?

realists get more done.
But realistic idealists realize one should live small, dream big, and enjoy everything in between.

But realistic idealists realize one should live small, dream big, and enjoy everything in between.
and that is how i live my life

what does that have to do with how much water is in the glass?

Pessimism is better than optimism, as your life is a succession of events when you are either proved right or pleasantly suprised.

glass is twice as big as in needs to be..... im a realist/Engineer

That's not my glass, my glass was bigger, and was full.
You stole mine! I was wondering whether anyone else had read that.

You stole mine! I was wondering whether anyone else had read that.
I don't even remember what the hell it's from.

I don't even remember what the hell it's from.
Grendel by John Gardner. With the dragon and all.

Just a ponder, I'm a pessermist but I think that is the best way to be, if you think thing can go wrong and it does they you are braced, if not it is an unexpected bonus. What are your thoughts?
exactly that. :p

Just a ponder, I'm a pessermist but I think that is the best way to be, if you think thing can go wrong and it does they you are braced, if not it is an unexpected bonus. What are your thoughts?
The glass half-empty is being drained by a very contented person who has satisfied him or herself with a least half of a good drink. The glass half-full is being refilled for another good drink. Where's there pessimism in any of this?

But realistic idealists realize one should live small, dream big, and enjoy everything in between.
Isn't "realistic idealistic" an oxymoron?

Oh wait... so is Omnibenevolent.

Isn't "realistic idealistic" an oxymoron?
Oxymora do not necessitate fallacy.

Oxymora do not necessitate fallacy.
Haha! :-) And so it needn't.

Grendel by John Gardner. With the dragon and all.
Wait, no, I looked it up, and I think it was first stated in Terry Pratchett's The Truth

There are, it has been said, two types of people in the world. There are those who, when presented with a glass that is exactly half full, say: this glass is half full. And then there are those who say: this glass is half empty. The world belongs, however, to those who can look at the glass and say: What's up with this glass? Excuse me? Excuse me? This is my glass? I don't think so. My glass was full! And it was a bigger glass!

Isn't "realistic idealistic" an oxymoron?

Oh wait... so is Omnibenevolent.
To be realistically idealistic is to be aware that though your dreams are ultimately more important than reality, you cannot expect those dreams to become reality and that the two are to be recognized for what they are at all times.