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Would you allow your teenage daughter to wear one of these to the prom?

Syawla
04-02-2005, 22:16
Or rather have one of these take her to the Prom:

http://www.ourchurch.com/member/i/intlforchrist/
Cogitation
04-02-2005, 23:03
I'm sorry, but the picture was taken under bad lighting conditions. I know she's wearing something, but I can't see what she's wearing.

Do you have an image taken under better conditions?

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
BLARGistania
04-02-2005, 23:20
Be Christian! Be Christian! Be Christian!

No.
Gnostikos
04-02-2005, 23:21
I'd let the hypothetical her go with anyone she wanted, as long as there wasn't the threat of something like a date rape or homicide. Sure, it wouldn't my favourite choice, but who am I to determine who my daughter goes out with.
Lacadaemon II
04-02-2005, 23:24
It played bad music. I am sad now. :( :( :( :(
Mentholyptus
04-02-2005, 23:27
I would let her go with one of them...IF
-He wasn't scared away by my answering the door wearing all black with a large red pentacle
-He didn't get uppity and try to push his faith

The upside to having one of these people take a daughter: you don't have to worry about ANY sexual contact of any kind happening.
New Foxxinnia
04-02-2005, 23:38
May I ask kindly, what the fuck is this thread about?
San haiti
04-02-2005, 23:57
Absolutely not, if they are the ones that created the atrocity that is the music playing on that website they desere to be locked up and not given any human contact whatsoever.
BLARGistania
05-02-2005, 00:02
May I ask kindly, what the fuck is this thread about?

qwould you let your daughter (future or present) to go to the prom with the uber-christian band members?

and your thread is really funny in an incredibly horrible way.
Vukov Azol
05-02-2005, 00:04
I'd let the hypothetical her go with anyone she wanted, as long as there wasn't the threat of something like a date rape or homicide. Sure, it wouldn't my favourite choice, but who am I to determine who my daughter goes out with.
um, her parent? As long as she's a minor that matters.

I see some cheezy band webpage, but no dress photo or photo of anyone I'd consider objectionable.

IMHO, the Jesus freak girls were always the most wild in bed anyway.
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:07
Or rather have one of these take her to the Prom:

http://www.ourchurch.com/member/i/intlforchrist/

Of course. Better one of these than some oversexed dweeb hopped up on God only knows what, or a whiskey-drinking Redneck, or someone so wrapped up in themselves that they can't even focus on another human being, or any number of the many other strange twists and turns the personality of the human male can take.
Gnostikos
05-02-2005, 00:08
um, her parent? As long as she's a minor that matters.
Yes, but trying to decide that is trying to control who the child will become, which, in my opinion, falls only partially to the parent. The child must also do a lot on his or her own to find our just who he or she is and wants to be, without parental interference.
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:11
Yes, but trying to decide that is trying to control who the child will become, which, in my opinion, falls only partially to the parent. The child must also do a lot on his or her own to find our just who he or she is and wants to be, without parental interference.

Oh? Who said? And please define "interference" as it applies to the parental unit.
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 00:11
Meh ... I doubt any uber-Christian would want to date my Muslim heathen daughters.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 00:12
Why can't she find a nice atheist boy?
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:15
Meh ... I doubt any uber-Christian would want to date my Muslim heathen daughters.

But if one of them did?
Gnostikos
05-02-2005, 00:16
Oh? Who said? And please define "interference" as it applies to the parental unit.
I said. I know there are many different theories on how parenting should go, and mine is fairly libertarian. I believe that the parent should prevent the child from making any mistakes that are damaging in the long-term, but that it should be up to the offspring what type of person they want to be. I would encourage certain things, like education and all that, but I think it is a very good idea to just trust the child with their own future. Protection to an extent, support and encouragment, education on certain matters (i.e. sex and drugs), and some moderation are the primary repsonsibilities of a parent in my opinion.
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 00:16
Why can't she find a nice atheist boy?

No kiddin' ... or a nice Hindu boy!
Salutus
05-02-2005, 00:16
better to have her go with a starter for the God Squad than someone who only wants to tap her
The Plutonian Empire
05-02-2005, 00:17
Isn't there another thread with the exact same title?
Gnostikos
05-02-2005, 00:17
No kiddin' ... or a nice Hindu boy!
Pagan would be even better.
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 00:18
But if one of them did?

I guess it would depend. If he was strong in his faith to the point of waking every morning with a prayer on his lips and going to bed every night with thankfulness in his heart, I see no problems. His faith is his and he should be strong and proud in it.

The second he starts making my daughter feel bad for not being like him, I break out the Nail Covered Bat o'Righteousness(tm). I'm a firm believer in "You make my daughter cry, I make you cry."
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 00:19
better to have her go with a starter for the God Squad than someone who only wants to tap her

Awww ... Christian teenagers get boners too.
Salutus
05-02-2005, 00:20
Nail Covered Bat o'Righteousness(tm). I'm a firm believer in "You make my daughter cry, I make you cry."

excellent. we have much to discuss.

:mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper:
Gnostikos
05-02-2005, 00:20
The second he starts making my daughter feel bad for not being like him, I break out the Nail Covered Bat o'Righteousness(tm). I'm a firm believer in "You make my daughter cry, I make you cry."
Though I would not want any child of mine to feel pressured in any way to have any religion or lack of one, a little suffering can be quite a developmental building block. As long as it isn't very severe or anything like that, of course.
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:20
I said. I know there are many different theories on how parenting should go, and mine is fairly libertarian. I believe that the parent should prevent the child from making any mistakes that are damaging in the long-term, but that it should be up to the offspring what type of person they want to be. I would encourage certain things, like education and all that, but I think it is a very good idea to just trust the child with their own future. Protection to an extent, support and encouragment, education on certain matters (i.e. sex and drugs), and some moderation are the primary repsonsibilities of a parent in my opinion.

I agree, as far as you go, but I also think that every parent has the right and the responsibility to teach his or her child ( -ren ) the tenets of the parents' faith, the reasons why the parent believes, the essence of what constitutes good character, what values will best serve the child in life, etc.
Salutus
05-02-2005, 00:20
Awww ... Christian teenagers get boners too.

not the ones on this forum.

OHHHHHHHHHH :cool: serious ownage
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 00:21
Pagan would be even better.
Aren't they an outlaw motorcycle gang? Maybe a guy who'll get hopped up on speed and let his buddies run a train on her isn't a good choice.
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:21
not the ones on this forum.

OHHHHHHHHHH :cool: serious ownage

Serious immaturage.
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:23
Isn't there another thread with the exact same title?

Not that I know of. I began one entitled, "Would you allow your daughter to wear this dress to the Prom?" and I suspect this thread is a spin-off of that one.
Haloman
05-02-2005, 00:24
not the ones on this forum.

OHHHHHHHHHH :cool: serious ownage

Wow. With this statement, you've proved that you can be no older than twelve.

Also, there's nothing wrong with dating chrsitians. I myself have never dated a girl who is not christian, or doesn't beleive in God. That's not my parents' choice, that's mine. It's important to me to date someone with the same general beleifs and values as me.
Gnostikos
05-02-2005, 00:24
I agree, as far as you go, but I also think that every parent has the right and the responsibility to teach his or her child ( -ren ) the tenets of the parents' faith, the reasons why the parent believes
Sure, I'm sure I missed a few other responsibilities that I believe parents have that just slipped my mind.

the essence of what constitutes good character, what values will best serve the child in life, etc.
For these, only partially. Say what the parent considers good character, and what the parent considers good values, but since good character and values are subjective, I'd like my child to decide for his- or herself.

Aren't they an outlaw motorcycle gang? Maybe a guy who'll get hopped up on speed and let his buddies run a train on her isn't a good choice.
They might be, but I primarily referring to pagan as in "paganism", not pagan as in "motocycle gang"...:p
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:25
better to have her go with a starter for the God Squad than someone who only wants to tap her

Exactly.
Cyrian space
05-02-2005, 00:25
Honestly, I'd rather she wen't with another girl.
Salutus
05-02-2005, 00:25
Serious immaturage.

i abase myself before you and your masterful wordsmythery.

just trying to have a little fun man... apparently the thread about christian rock band prom dates was not the place to do it. maybe i'll try chess club next time.

:gundge:
BLARGistania
05-02-2005, 00:25
I'm a firm believer in "You make my daughter cry, I make you cry."

a father of a friend said this to the boy taking her to prom

"Whatever you do to her, I do to you."
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:26
I guess it would depend. If he was strong in his faith to the point of waking every morning with a prayer on his lips and going to bed every night with thankfulness in his heart, I see no problems. His faith is his and he should be strong and proud in it.

The second he starts making my daughter feel bad for not being like him, I break out the Nail Covered Bat o'Righteousness(tm). I'm a firm believer in "You make my daughter cry, I make you cry."

Hehehe! I would offer to hold your coat. :)
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 00:26
excellent. we have much to discuss.

:mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper:

If you want to borrow the bat, no problemo. Just don't clean it ... I find bits of brain and a little dried blood just adds to the overall effect.
Salutus
05-02-2005, 00:26
Wow. With this statement, you've proved that you can be no older than twelve.

Also, there's nothing wrong with dating chrsitians. I myself have never dated a girl who is not christian, or doesn't beleive in God. That's not my parents' choice, that's mine. It's important to me to date someone with the same general beleifs and values as me.

with this statement, you've proved that you don't know how to spell or how to get a date.

:gundge:
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:26
a father of a friend said this to the boy taking her to prom

"Whatever you do to her, I do to you."

ROFMAO! Um ... I'm not willing to go QUITE that far! :D
Oke Aro
05-02-2005, 00:27
if my adopted daughter's boyfriend was ok with her having two dad's, then sure. actually, even if he wasn't, then sure. so long as he's not going to hurt her (beyond the expected high school drama), I could care less who she goes with, though hopefully he'd at least be an intellectual. she sure wouldn't be dating him for the sex, in this case, so why not? I hope those people realize how bad a Midi file that is, it's a nice song, but DAMN.
Salutus
05-02-2005, 00:27
If you want to borrow the bat, no problemo. Just don't clean it ... I find bits of brain and a little dried blood just adds to the overall effect.

lol i might take you up on that thanks :D
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 00:27
a father of a friend said this to the boy taking her to prom

"Whatever you do to her, I do to you."

Now that's a good one. I'm gonna file that away for later use .... very nice.
Gnostikos
05-02-2005, 00:28
ROFMAO! Um ... I'm not willing to go QUITE that far! :D
I think I'm with you here...
Oke Aro
05-02-2005, 00:30
Pagan would be even better.

er, aren't hindu's pagan? they're pantheist, that's close enough.
Tricea
05-02-2005, 00:30
uh, yea, id let my daughter go, its just a date...whats wrong with the guys??
Gnostikos
05-02-2005, 00:31
er, aren't hindu's pagan? they're pantheist, that's close enough.
I was pretty sure they're polytheistic...and by Pagan I'm referring to neo-Pagan. Not unorthodox religion.
Haloman
05-02-2005, 00:32
with this statement, you've proved that you don't know how to spell or how to get a date.

:gundge:

Oh, snap. I'd totally forgotten that I've had six relationships of three months or more. Damnit. I'm sorry. You're right. I've proved that I type too fast, not that I can't spell. There's one mistake in there. Get over it.
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:34
Sure, I'm sure I missed a few other responsibilities that I believe parents have that just slipped my mind.

For these, only partially. Say what the parent considers good character, and what the parent considers good values, but since good character and values are subjective, I'd like my child to decide for his- or herself.

As I'm sure I missed a few, even having helped raise five.

Yes, character and values have a degree of unavoidable subjectivity, and yes, everyone should ultmiately decide for themselves what should be the substance of their character and the values they choose to hold, with the following provisos:

1. Some people are ill-equipped to handle the intellectual sophistication required by such decisions

2. Such decisions should be made after experience and maturity are at adequate levels.

By giving your children your own concepts of such intangible things as character and values, you provide them with a baseline for making future decisions on what to keep and what to change and what to throw away. And if the child never reaches the point where she or her has the ability or courage to make those sort of decisions, at least they will have your values to carry them through the pain and pitfalls of life.
Roleplay Central
05-02-2005, 00:34
So let me get this right. You people think Christians shouldn' be allowed to date or something? They're off in thier own version of an American caste system? Granted, the music was not what I'd listen to, though the majority of views I'm seeing here are disturbing.

I wouldn't care who my daughter took to the Prom, as long as he didn't come in looking too drunk to drive or like circumstances. I'm all about free choice.
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:35
Honestly, I'd rather she wen't with another girl.

Then you're in need of more exposure to life.
Oke Aro
05-02-2005, 00:36
a father of a friend said this to the boy taking her to prom

"Whatever you do to her, I do to you."

ok, that just kicks ass. if I ever have a daughter, I'm using that.
Oke Aro
05-02-2005, 00:38
by the way, christians don't suck <i>that</i> bad. I know plenty of really cool ones. I've shared dirty jokes with a presbytyrian deacon. don't write off the cool ones because there's a few...(ok, because there are alot of) prudes and assholes.
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:38
ok, that just kicks ass. if I ever have a daughter, I'm using that.

It sounds good, but if he kisses her ( which is ok with me ), don't expect me to follow suit! :D
Gnostikos
05-02-2005, 00:41
Yes, character and values have a degree of unavoidable subjectivity, and yes, everyone should ultmiately decide for themselves what should be the substance of their character and the values they choose to hold, with the following provisos:

1. Some people are ill-equipped to handle the intellectual sophistication required by such decisions

2. Such decisions should be made after experience and maturity are at adequate levels.
Yes, I definitely agree with both of those.
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:42
Yes, I definitely agree with both of those.

Whew! I was beginning to worry that my initial assessment of your intellectual capacity was incorrect! :D
Oke Aro
05-02-2005, 00:42
I was pretty sure they're polytheistic...and by Pagan I'm referring to neo-Pagan. Not unorthodox religion.

oh. I'm following a pagan religion that's like...older than dirt. nobody remembers us poor afro-carribean faiths =(...though people who do are scared shitless of us, so I guess it's a fair trade...haha
Salutus
05-02-2005, 00:44
Oh, snap. I'd totally forgotten that I've had six relationships of three months or more. Damnit. I'm sorry. You're right. I've proved that I type too fast, not that I can't spell. There's one mistake in there. Get over it.

hey love doctor, perhaps you didn't see the fine print at the bottom of your 'relationship checklist'; remove head from anus before communicating with others. or was it too poorly spelled?

i'm sorry let's be friends. :fluffle:
Omega the Black
05-02-2005, 00:45
Of course. Better one of these than some oversexed dweeb hopped up on God only knows what, or a whiskey-drinking Redneck, or someone so wrapped up in themselves that they can't even focus on another human being, or any number of the many other strange twists and turns the personality of the human male can take.
I agree. I would have to say that as long as he is willing to stand up and proclaim his faith to the world then he should be given the shadow of the doubt. The final decision is of course based on an actual meet-and-greet with the boy, and if you have a friend that likes to sit in the background and clean his/your gun or sharpen knives for a "hunt" later then so much the better.
:sniper: :fluffle: :mp5:
:p
Haloman
05-02-2005, 00:45
hey love doctor, perhaps you didn't see the fine print at the bottom of your 'relationship checklist'; remove head from anus before communicating with others. or was it too poorly spelled?

i'm sorry let's be friends. :fluffle:

Sure. In an entirely platonic way, of course.
Gnostikos
05-02-2005, 00:45
oh. I'm following a pagan religion that's like...older than dirt. nobody remembers us poor afro-carribean faiths =(...though people who do are scared shitless of us, so I guess it's a fair trade...haha
What is your religion typically called?
The Black Forrest
05-02-2005, 00:46
Eutrusca,

If your granddaughters want to wear that to the prom, I would be happy to take them! :p
Salutus
05-02-2005, 00:47
Sure. In an entirely platonic way, of course.

of course.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 00:50
oh. I'm following a pagan religion that's like...older than dirt. nobody remembers us poor afro-carribean faiths =(...though people who do are scared shitless of us, so I guess it's a fair trade...haha
Afro-Carribean? What like Voodoo and Santeria and stuff?
Alien Born
05-02-2005, 00:50
oh. I'm following a pagan religion that's like...older than dirt. nobody remembers us poor afro-carribean faiths =(...though people who do are scared shitless of us, so I guess it's a fair trade...haha

Of course we do remember them here in Brazil, we like collecting all possible faiths.

As a result, my daughter could go with the Uber -Christian, but if he tried to convert her or something, she would probably say "fine, whatever" and just add hard line christianity to whatever other faiths she had collected up to that point.
Eutrusca
05-02-2005, 00:51
Eutrusca,

If your granddaughters want to wear that to the prom, I would be happy to take them! :p

Yeah, I just BET you would! Heh!
Gnostikos
05-02-2005, 00:53
Afro-Carribean? What like Voodoo and Santeria and stuff?
I was actually thinking of Rastafarianism.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 00:56
I was actually thinking of Rastafarianism.
Well Rastafarianism isn't older than dirt and nobody's scared of a Rasta man.

We have a great Rastafarian radio show on sunday afternoons in the Trenton NJ area. It's not just Reggae, but also speeches about Rastafarianism. You guys have cool music and a really interesting mystical faith.
Gnostikos
05-02-2005, 00:58
Well Rastafarianism isn't older than dirt and nobody's scared of a Rasta man.
I know, but a lot of people like to exaggerate. The reason I thought of it was because he said Afro-Caribbean, which made me think of the Rastafarian principle of returning to Ethiopia and all that.
Drunk commies
05-02-2005, 01:01
I know, but a lot of people like to exaggerate. The reason I thought of it was because he said Afro-Caribbean, which made me think of the Rastafarian principle of returning to Ethiopia and all that.
Eirie Mon.
Swimmingpool
05-02-2005, 01:10
What exactly is the problem with these guys? (Admittedly, my speakers are turned off.)
Fnordish Infamy
05-02-2005, 01:18
Am I missing something? They all seem to be wearing regular pants and shirts.

I'd let my daughter go to the prom in casual dress, but I doubt the school wood. Or at least my school wouldn't.
Gnostikos
05-02-2005, 02:19
Eirie Mon.
What?

Am I missing something? They all seem to be wearing regular pants and shirts.
You should try reading what the site says.
Keruvalia
05-02-2005, 02:29
1. Some people are ill-equipped to handle the intellectual sophistication required by such decisions


Sometimes when talking to my 6 (7 in a month) year old daughter, I almost feel that I personally fall right into the steaming abyss of this category. :D
B0zzy
06-02-2005, 19:40
Meh ... I doubt any uber-Christian would want to date my Muslim heathen daughters.
it depends, does she put out?
Greedy Pig
06-02-2005, 21:05
It played bad music. I am sad now. :( :( :( :(

No man. The song's really cool. Though they played it very shittily. It's

'Hillsongs - Shout To The Lord'

It's actually by a Australian band in Sydney. Their church is something like 4k people per week, and their church hall is a stadium.
Iztatepopotla
07-02-2005, 19:49
I'd let her go, provided she came back with his head on a stake. By the way, this is not being anti-Christian, I would ask her to do that with anyone.