NationStates Jolt Archive

What do you know about the movement? I myself only know the basics of the movement in Britain. I just wondered what people knew about it.

hah, I suddenly thought of Disney's Mary Poppins and the song the wife sings about the Suffragettes... ahah! found it on the net.

Sister Suffragette

We're clearly soldiers in petty coats
Dauntless crusaders for women's votes
Though we adore men individually
We agree that as a group they're rather stupid

Cast off the shackles of yesterday
Shoulder to shoulder into the fray
Our daughter's daughters will adore us
And they'll sing in grateful chorus
Well done sister suffragettes

From kensington to billingsgate one hears the restless cry
from every corner of the land womankind arise!
Political equality and equal rights with men
Take heart for Mrs. Pankhurst has been clapped in irons again
No more the meek and mild subservience we
We're fighting for our rights militantly
Never you fear!

Cast of the shakles of yesterday
Shoulder to shoulder into the fray
Our daughter's daughters will adore us
And they'll sing in grateful chorus
Well done
Well done
Well done
Sister Suff---

so no one cares about the Suffragettes or cares about them? :(

so no one cares about the Suffragettes or cares about them? :(

The Suffragettes are another example of why not to take one's right to the vote lightly.

Its History man, unless it involved people killing each other, we're not interested. Maybe you should tell the story of the woman who got ran over by a horse just to prove a point.

Eh, what's to say really?

They wanted women to be able to vote.

They got that.

so unless it has graphical violence then no one cares? :|

I guess the history of the Suffragettes should be quite interesting for most people. Lots of scandalous torture.

so unless it has graphical violence then no one cares? :|

I guess the history of the Suffragettes should be quite interesting for most people. Lots of scandalous torture.

Britain has behaved very badly in its past and the only reason the UK have not had an official revolution is because it was better at repressing people. Still, without Britain, I'd be speaking French (Napoleon) or German (Hitler) and would be under a far more tyrannical system than Britain had.

I think my school's dance team is called "The Suffragettes." Or something like that.

Are you interested in the suffragette movement in any particular country, or just one? I know the American movement had rather amusing opinions on all sides, especially the (female!) opponents who claimed that the right to vote would make women less capable mothers.

I actually watched a documentry about Sylvia Pankhurts last night, very interesting.

Hrm, the only thing I know that has any connection to suffragettes other than what's already been mentioned are the lyrics to "Suffragette City" by David Bowie. And those don't count.
:D

I actually watched a documentry about Sylvia Pankhurts last night, very interesting.

What did she do? I saw one on Sylvia Pankhurst see.

Britain has behaved very badly in its past and the only reason the UK have not had an official revolution is because it was better at repressing people. Still, without Britain, I'd be speaking French (Napoleon) or German (Hitler) and would be under a far more tyrannical system than Britain had.
That makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever. We're living in a less tyrannical system because the British are better at repressing people... o.O

Are you interested in the suffragette movement in any particular country, or just one? I know the American movement had rather amusing opinions on all sides, especially the (female!) opponents who claimed that the right to vote would make women less capable mothers.
Anything really, I assume there were large similarities between all of the Suffragette movements.

I've done way too many essays on this at higher level history to care anymore.

That makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever. We're living in a less tyrannical system because the British are better at repressing people... o.O

Were yes. Napoleon was a mad man. Without Britain the idea of Parliamentary Democracy would never have come about. They created the ideals of liberty and freedom long before the Americans in 1776 (English Civil War.)

I am not saying that the British were more repressive as they actually had a greater degree of human rights even than America (banned slavery earlier and enforced it around the world). They were just more efficient at repressing those who needed to be repressed.

Sucks to be you then...

Emily Pankhurst severely undermined the campaign for equal suffrage with her violent tactics. The National Union of Women's Suffrage Societies gained considerable favour with prominent members of the Liberal party in Britain shortly before their 1905 election victory, but Mrs Pankhursts' new, militant suffragette movement made it necessary for the Liberals to politically distance themselves from the campaign for women's suffrage.

Plus, she was a snob, and didn't care for lower class women getting the vote at all.

Tireless campaigners such as Millicent Fawcett are generally forgotten because of her unfair historical status.

That makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever. We're living in a less tyrannical system because the British are better at repressing people... o.O

You do not have to be tyrannical to repress. The British are self repressing, if that makes any sense to anyone who is not British. All the British authorities had to do was to reinforce the ideas of natural station in life, respect for the aristocracy etc. that were already there in the mindset of the people (go read Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes for a good example of this). No intimidation, nor torture, nor sinister knocks on the door in the middle of the night, were needed to keep the British woman in her "rightful" place. She already knew her rightful place and would be roundly chastised by her compatriates if she stepped outside of the limits. The scorn of her peers was more punishment than anything that a totalitarian dictatorship could do, as was proven by the restitution of the monarchy after Cromwell.
Any clearer?

Before women got the right to vote there was no AIDS, no nuclear weapons, no crack cocaine epidemic, in short things were better. Damn suffragettes screwed everything up.

Were yes. Napoleon was a mad man. Without Britain the idea of Parliamentary Democracy would never have come about. They created the ideals of liberty and freedom long before the Americans in 1776 (English Civil War.)

I am not saying that the British were more repressive as they actually had a greater degree of human rights even than America (banned slavery earlier and enforced it around the world). They were just more efficient at repressing those who needed to be repressed.Point taken... however, this doesn't mean the British liked giving these freedoms.

Before women got the right to vote there was no AIDS, no nuclear weapons, no crack cocaine epidemic, in short things were better. Damn suffragettes screwed everything up.

This guy speaks sense.

Before representative democacy gave the right to vote there was no AIDS, no nuclear weapons, no crack cocaine epidemic, in short things were better. Damn fairness screwed everything up.

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