NationStates Jolt Archive

Howdy,
Just a small question.

If you had to choose between peace and freedom and you could only choose one, which would you choose and why?

oh and uh...........
is there a region for nations with over 2 billion population?
my puppet has 2.3 billion people.

Peace or Freedom...alone, they both suck.

Give me freedom. Peace is boring, especially if you can't do, read, watch, or say what you want.

Give me freedom. Peace is boring, especially if you can't do, read, watch, or say what you want.
Yeah, freedom can be fun, Rape, Pillage, and run stark nude and drunk as a fish through the center of town.

Yeah, freedom can be fun, Rape, Pillage, and run stark nude and drunk as a fish through the center of town.
Don't give me any bad ideas. I have enough of my own.

Freedom is infinitely more important than peace, in my opinion.

Freedom > Peace

Freedom is infinitely more important than peace, in my opinion.
And fun too!

Under absolute freedom I can detonate nuclear warheads at will!

(Just so we know, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just being stupid and silly, I really should stop.)

And fun too!

Under absolute freedom I can detonate nuclear warheads at will!

(Just so we know, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just being stupid and silly, I really should stop.)
I'd rather have nuclear war than be someone else's sheep or plaything without my consent.

Can't have one without the other.

Can't have one without the other.
Really? You can't be free is you're at war? You can't have war without liberty? Hey...did you notice Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy during WWII?

I dunno guys, peace is certainly pretty peacefull....

I'd want freedom more, but, I think they go better together hand in hand.

I dunno guys, peace is certainly pretty peacefull....
And boring.

Peace.

What's so great about peace with no freedom? Might as well live in a nice, quiet prison.

Depends on several factors.

First, is this ABSOLUTE freedom we're talking about? If it is, I'd rather have peace - absolute freedom would allow just as many immoral acts(killing other people, cannibalism, theft, slander, arson, etc.) to go unchecked as moral/neutral acts. If it's not absoulte freedom, I'd go for freedom.

However, IMO:
Freedom without peace causes chaos(it's called "anarchy")
Peace without freedom is wasted and boring(The Giver(book, for those that don't know) is a fairly good example of these; the people in it don't have real freedom, but they DO have peace)

So it's rather hard to pick just one.

Really? You can't be free is you're at war? You can't have war without liberty? Hey...did you notice Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy during WWII?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

However: if you're not free to do what you want, you're not at peace. If you're not at peace, you're not truly free.

Peace for me.

Freedom.... i'd rather be in a war & say what i want then to not have a war and be told what to do

Peace.
It's awfully boring though.

You can't separate freedom and peace. You can't have one without the other.


Which organ is more important to you (supposed you have to choose) - head or heart?

National 'mottos':

The United States of America: "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

Canada: "Peace, order, and good government."

Any other nations with similar 'mottos'?

Freedom. I can't think of a peaceful way to smack my friends with a bamboo sword. :p

If you need to buy a gun to protect your family, as the gun lobbyists want us to believe, and you have to protect your house with extensive security systems you have neither peace nor freedom.

National 'mottos':

The United States of America: "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

Canada: "Peace, order, and good government."

Any other nations with similar 'mottos'?
The People's Republic of Drunk Commies
One burbon, one scotch, and one beer.

If you need to buy a gun to protect your family, as the gun lobbyists want us to believe, and you have to protect your house with extensive security systems you have neither peace nor freedom.
Actually you have the ability to safeguard both.

National 'mottos':

The United States of America: "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

Canada: "Peace, order, and good government."

Any other nations with similar 'mottos'?
Actually, the US motto is "In God we Trust" if I remember correctly.

The People's Republic of Drunk Commies
One burbon, one scotch, and one beer.

I can drink to that!

Actually, the US motto is "In God we Trust" if I remember correctly.

Fair enough. That's why I put 'mottos' in quotes, because I couldn't think of the right word to describe the phrases. Surely you're not going to deny that the phrase "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" isn't integral to the American way of life? 'Motto' may not be the correct word to describe it, but the idea is the same.

Peace. no doubt.

National 'mottos':

The United States of America: "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

Canada: "Peace, order, and good government."

Any other nations with similar 'mottos'?


Actually, Canada's national motto is "From sea to sea."

And boring.

Your right. Here, let's start some excitement.

I'll go over to your house with a nine, put a bullet in your head, and steal your TV.

Exciting and exilarating, isn't it?

Yeah, freedom can be fun, Rape, Pillage, and run stark nude and drunk as a fish through the center of town.
Especially when one can shoot back at the rapists and pillagers.