NationStates Jolt Archive


Thought the Cold War was Over?

New Anthrus
03-02-2005, 01:47
Well really, yes. Communism is no longer a global force, and Russia is very far from being a superpower. But they still are active. What I found surprising was that Russia has as many spies in the US as they did during the Cold War.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1022627,00.html
I bet they are harder to catch, too. As the article describes, they have lots of front companies to import spies. The rise of the web probably makes it harder, too. Thoughts?
Von Witzleben
03-02-2005, 02:24
Go Russia!!!
Los Banditos
03-02-2005, 07:44
Well, the Cold War was really a war between Capitalism and Communism. It is that the US and the CCCP were the leaders and points of interest in the conflict. The UK was involved in the Cold War as well.

The number of spies shows nothing but that nations still do not trust each other. I would say it would be safeto assume that the US and the UK spy on each other.
Kryozerkia
03-02-2005, 07:45
Yay for Russia!
Los Banditos
03-02-2005, 07:47
Also, if a magazine was able to find out there were so many spies, what do you think the NSA knows?
Hammolopolis
03-02-2005, 08:11
Also, if a magazine was able to find out there were so many spies, what do you think the NSA knows?
Funny you should say that, we don't even know anything about the NSA. In fact one of the few things we know for sure is that their annual electric bill is about $21 million.
Penguinia Root
03-02-2005, 08:31
Just think how many spies China has in the US. They are going to be the next partner in the cold war tango.
Astas
03-02-2005, 08:34
Espionage has made zero difference, in the cold war or out, between Russia and the US.

Even the whole Rosenburg betrayal added no more than 6 months to 2 years to their research.
Lacadaemon
03-02-2005, 08:36
The NSA operates out of a 150 acre campus called Fort Meade. Several years ago it installed the worlds most powerful computer system by several orders of magnitude. Allegedly this is used to monitor all electronic communication globably, searching for key items of intelligence.

So secret is the agency, many of it's employees are not even allowed to tell others that they work there. Other non-essential employees are allowed to say that they work for the NSA when in a non-offical capacity. They are not allowed to describe their work however, even if it is just mopping floors.

Supposedly, the NSA is not permitted to monitor US citzens - similar to the restrictions placed upon GCHQ in the UK - however because of information sharing agreements with key allies this is meaningless prohibition.

Ostensibly, the primary role of the NSA is to monitor and decrypt the communications of foreign enemy governments and millitaries. A sort of twenty first century Bletchly Park if you will.
Tandia
03-02-2005, 08:45
The NSA operates out of a 150 acre campus called Fort Meade. Several years ago it installed the worlds most powerful computer system by several orders of magnitude. Allegedly this is used to monitor all electronic communication globably, searching for key items of intelligence.

So secret is the agency, many of it's employees are not even allowed to tell others that they work there. Other non-essential employees are allowed to say that they work for the NSA when in a non-offical capacity. They are not allowed to describe their work however, even if it is just mopping floors.

Supposedly, the NSA is not permitted to monitor US citzens - similar to the restrictions placed upon GCHQ in the UK - however because of information sharing agreements with key allies this is meaningless prohibition.

Ostensibly, the primary role of the NSA is to monitor and decrypt the communications of foreign enemy governments and millitaries. A sort of twenty first century Bletchly Park if you will.

Jeez do you work there or something
Lacadaemon
03-02-2005, 08:47
Jeez do you work there or something

Well I could hardly answer that if I did. But no. I don't.
Stormforge
03-02-2005, 08:49
The NSA operates out of a 150 acre campus called Fort Meade. Several years ago it installed the worlds most powerful computer system by several orders of magnitude. Allegedly this is used to monitor all electronic communication globably, searching for key items of intelligence.

So secret is the agency, many of it's employees are not even allowed to tell others that they work there. Other non-essential employees are allowed to say that they work for the NSA when in a non-offical capacity. They are not allowed to describe their work however, even if it is just mopping floors.

Supposedly, the NSA is not permitted to monitor US citzens - similar to the restrictions placed upon GCHQ in the UK - however because of information sharing agreements with key allies this is meaningless prohibition.

Ostensibly, the primary role of the NSA is to monitor and decrypt the communications of foreign enemy governments and millitaries. A sort of twenty first century Bletchly Park if you will.Fun fact: my dad used to work for the NSA during the Cold War. They wouldn't let him and my mom go to a Thanksgiving Dinner because one of the guests was Colombian.
Lacadaemon
03-02-2005, 08:57
Fun fact: my dad used to work for the NSA during the Cold War. They wouldn't let him and my mom go to a Thanksgiving Dinner because one of the guests was Colombian.

I heard they spy on their own employees all the time. You like secretly check up on their bank balances, credit rating, phone records ect. You also have to report your comings and goings, then sometimes they check up on what you said, to make sure you were where you said you were. Mind you, it must be great if you want to get out of something. Say there is a wedding you don't want to go to but your wife does, you can be all like: "Ah damn, I would love to go buck I'm not allowed...work you know." It's a fine chioce for someone with an aptitude for math.

I always thought the CIA would be a better choice for someone looking to go into the intelligence field though. They are pretty feckless. And if you are betraying your country for money, you can pretty much explain away your new sports car as, "Uhh... I had a rich uncle that died or something...yeah that was it Old Uncy Al died and left me all this money."

After all it worked for Walker.