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They have Charles Darwin on their money (the 10 pound note).

o_0

*never been bored enough to look at his notes*

Hardy.

It's because British accents kick ass.

Ben Franklin > Charles Darwin

Hardy.

It's because British accents kick ass.


That reason is indeed genuine, but it can be argued reasonably that accent and dialect arent measures of national character.

meh..

british tea > american tea

good enough for me

No, your all crazy!

The U.S. has.........well, they made the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.....and MC Hammer is American......

But then again, U.K. has Fawlty Towers and Monty Python, not to mention coronation street......Hmmmm......

That reason is indeed genuine, but it can be argued reasonably that accent and dialect arent measures of national character.


What are you talking about?! Of course they are!

Why do you think people like the Yemenise so much?

That kickass accent, of course!

They have Charles Darwin on their money (the 10 pound note).

:D

you know...pretty good this is gonna degenerate into a "my countrys better than yours!!!!111one!!1" thread...

It's because British accents kick ass.

Also true.

Ahh Darwin...what scientific advances did he bring along besides starting a bunch of fights over what books can and can't be read? I say put the scientists who make cellphones tinier every year on the money, now that's useful.

They have Charles Darwin on their money (the 10 pound note).
And they have microwaved eggs for breakfast.

Hardy.

It's because British accents kick ass.
Australian accents are always better.

Australian accents are always better.

But naturally not as good as New Zealand accents.

But naturally not as good as New Zealand accents.
Never met a New Zealander(Is that how you say it?) myself. Sorry.

Ahh Darwin...what scientific advances did he bring along besides starting a bunch of fights over what books can and can't be read? I say put the scientists who make cellphones tinier every year on the money, now that's useful.

And I say we cast those very same scientists into firey pits of pain and NSync for making those damnable weapons of mass annoyance harder to find :p

No, your all crazy!

The U.S. has.........well, they made the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.....and MC Hammer is American......

But then again, U.K. has Fawlty Towers and Monty Python, not to mention coronation street......Hmmmm......

Don't forget the Red Dwarf! ;)

Ahh Darwin...what scientific advances did he bring along besides starting a bunch of fights over what books can and can't be read? I say put the scientists who make cellphones tinier every year on the money, now that's useful.

Nah! They lost that right for allowing ring tones! ;)

I can fake both English and Austrailian accents well (scared one of my neighbours when I was unger, before caller ID. Told them I was making a call from Down Under to dispute my sisters claim that there wasn't any kangaroos in Canada. They were scared of long distance fees.) I can also imitate anyone from Halo 2, do french, Romainian, German, Spainish, Russian, Irish and Scottish accents and I do a killer Jar-Jar.

I do a killer Jar-Jar.

I am not sure that is something to brag about!

And they have microwaved eggs for breakfast.

What UK have you been going to? Microwaved eggs? How the hell do you microwave eggs?

My country (insert country name here) is better because I live here
as to any other point, everyone sees them differently

I am not sure that is something to brag about!
True, but the fact I can shows an increadible ability to both imitate and annoy!

True, but the fact I can shows an increadible ability to both imitate and annoy!

The 'ability to annoy' is not a merit.

british tea > american tea
Green tea > british tea

The 'ability to annoy' is not a merit.
I disagree. It is a great way to pass the time. Just annoy someone on the street. (Only in Canada, 'cause here there is no risk they will blow your head off).

What UK have you been going to? Microwaved eggs?
In a hotel in London.
How the hell do you microwave eggs?
You crack them like you do when you want fry them and put them in the microwave.

FeckittyFeckFeck!
Erm, what?

English beer is waaaaay better than US beer.

Hardy.

It's because British accents kick ass.
i got a british accent. think its lame. would much rather have a californian 'surfer dude' accent :D

English beer is waaaaay better than US beer.
I have better tapwater then that.

And they have microwaved eggs for breakfast.

0.o
Yeah, that famous trait of all us British people....
Have you ever heard of a 'Full English Breakfast'? :p

English beer is waaaaay better than US beer.

So true, so true.

0.o
Yeah, that famous trait of all us British people....
Have you ever heard of a 'Full English Breakfast'? :p
With beans, toast, jam and a cognac glass of orange juice?

No you all have it wrong.

Scandinavia > Canada > US = UK

And I am from the US, born and raised, with ancestors that founded some of the oldest towns in New England. So there is no patriotic bias there either.

No..


Yummy fried sausage, bacon, egg, black pudding, potato cakes and beans or plum tomatoes.

English beer is waaaaay better than US beer.

Not necessarily, there are some damn good microbrews in the States, better than anything I've had in Britain. Additionally, the best beers I have ever had were either Belgian or Dutch, now those are beers.

Green tea > british tea

Coffee > any and all tea

Coffee > any and all tea
Milk.

Not necessarily, there are some damn good microbrews in the States, better than anything I've had in Britain. Additionally, the best beers I have ever had were either Belgian or Dutch, now those are beers.

Yep, there are good microbrews in the US. I meant generally though. If you go into a pub in England you're much more likely to get a good beer, than in in the US.

I like Belgian & Dutch beers, I also like German beers too. I like their thinking re the purity laws. :)

Red Dwarf! ;)

I think this here is the only reason we need :D

But Andrew Jackson is on our twenty.
Andy Jackson = 700 (1400 wounded)British (at least in New Orleans)

No you all have it wrong.

Scandinavia > Canada > US = UK

And I am from the US, born and raised, with ancestors that founded some of the oldest towns in New England. So there is no patriotic bias there either.

Close but not quite:
Brazil >> Scandinavia > Canada > UK = US

and I am from the UK, from a town where the tide runs out on the Thames originally, (and where the Monty Python Fish Slapping Dance was recorded), so absolutely no bias, except for the fact that I live in Brazil

Red Dwarf :)

I think this here is the only reason we need :D

but we could always add Douglas Adams just to be sure :D

They have Charles Darwin on their money (the 10 pound note).

I had a thread a while ago about the back of Bank of England notes, and here was my plan for reforming them come the revolution:

£5 - Sigmund Freud
£10 - Charles Darwin
£20 - Sylvia Pankhurst
£50 - Karl Marx

Although neither Marx nor Freud were born here, they both lived in the UK, and so should be justifiable choices.

But Andrew Jackson is on our twenty.
Andy Jackson = 700 (1400 wounded)British (at least in New Orleans)

...and that's not counting the thousands of Cherokee that died as a result of his Trail of Tears.

American Porn kicks anything that the UK can produce.

America also pwns the UK when it comes weather options!

...and that's not counting the thousands of Cherokee that died as a result of his Trail of Tears.

Beat me to it. Damn. :p

Red Dwarf :)



but we could always add Douglas Adams just to be sure :D

Hehe :D

We could really be mean and go into music, too...they would never recover if we fired Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd and so on at them. :D

We could really be mean and go into music, too...they would never recover if we fired Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd and so on at them. :D

I think the US could hold its own on that front: ditch the presidents and get Elvis Presley, Hank Williams Sr, Charlie Parker and Robert Johnson on there instead.

Australian accents are always better.
You know not all us Australians greet people with 'G,Day Mate' and sound like Steve Irwin.

I had a thread a while ago about the back of Bank of England notes, and here was my plan for reforming them come the revolution:

£5 - Sigmund Freud


Why? :s

I think the US could hold its own on that front: ditch the presidents and get Elvis Presley, Hank Williams Sr, Charlie Parker and Robert Johnson on there instead.

Don't forget Grand Funk Railroad, Chicago, and the Carpenters!

You know not all us Australians greet people with 'G,Day Mate' and sound like Steve Irwin.

That's a shame :D

American Porn kicks anything that the UK can produce.

America also pwns the UK when it comes weather options!

I don't think I've ever watched UK porn.

How could you ever want anything more than pissy grey drizzle? :p

Why? :s

Why? Because prior to him the recognition of subconscious motivation and, indeed, the sunconscious mind was pretty much limited to the works of Nietzsche and vague ill-thought out theories in a couple of novels. I'm not saying that Freud was entirely right in his system, far from it, in fact, but he still opened up that terra incognito for future generations to explore.

That's a shame :D

I usually greet people with g'day, but I don't sound much like Steve Irwin (crikey).

I think the US could hold its own on that front: ditch the presidents and get Elvis Presley, Hank Williams Sr, Charlie Parker and Robert Johnson on there instead.

Maybe...but...the Clash!

It'd be pretty damn close though, you're right. But with the UK's other advantages, the US is a pushover.

I usually greet people with g'day, but I don't sound much like Steve Irwin (crikey).

http://classweb.gmu.edu/accent/english84.html

Hehe :p

But naturally not as good as New Zealand accents.

Australian accents maybe pretty good, and NZ accents are better, but I have both available to use.

I don't think I've ever watched UK porn.

How could you ever want anything more than pissy grey drizzle? :p


Oh I don't know, maybe cause I like watching those juggy girls in bikinis' walk by! :p

I had a thread a while ago about the back of Bank of England notes, and here was my plan for reforming them come the revolution:

£5 - Sigmund Freud
£10 - Charles Darwin
£20 - Sylvia Pankhurst
£50 - Karl Marx

Although neither Marx nor Freud were born here, they both lived in the UK, and so should be justifiable choices.

So what does our selection say about Brazil

R$1 - Humming Bird
R$2 - Leatherback Turtle
R$5 - Heron
R$10 - Macaw
R$20 - Golden Faced Monkey
R$50 - Jaguar
R$100 - (Never seen one)

I suppose it is better than Pele, Zico, Socrates etc. Or than Carmen Miranda.

http://classweb.gmu.edu/accent/english84.html

Hehe :p

Yeah, I've listened to a few of them before. Some of them are pretty funny. There's no Melbourne one though.

Close but not quite:
Brazil >> Scandinavia > Canada > UK = US

and I am from the UK, from a town where the tide runs out on the Thames originally, (and where the Monty Python Fish Slapping Dance was recorded), so absolutely no bias, except for the fact that I live in Brazil


I envy that you live in brazil!

Some of the most wonderful (and beautiful) people i've ever known were from brazil.

I had a thread a while ago about the back of Bank of England notes, and here was my plan for reforming them come the revolution:

£5 - Sigmund Freud
£10 - Charles Darwin
£20 - Sylvia Pankhurst
£50 - Karl Marx

Although neither Marx nor Freud were born here, they both lived in the UK, and so should be justifiable choices.


The revolution where the angels come in their space boats and inspire the world to live in peaceful cooperation?

And make it so people dont have to eat?

You know not all us Australians greet people with 'G,Day Mate' and sound like Steve Irwin.


Thats a lie and you know it.

The revolution where the angels come in their space boats and inspire the world to live in peaceful cooperation?

And make it so people dont have to eat?

Note the use of ironics in the post to which you reply...



Till we have built Jerusalem/In England's green and pleasant land.

And make it so people dont have to eat?

Heirarchy is an integral part of food production?

So what does our selection say about Brazil

R$1 - Humming Bird
R$2 - Leatherback Turtle
R$5 - Heron
R$10 - Macaw
R$20 - Golden Faced Monkey
R$50 - Jaguar
R$100 - (Never seen one)

I suppose it is better than Pele, Zico, Socrates etc. Or than Carmen Miranda.

That's pretty good, much more interesting than a set of portraits of dead politicans with blood on their hands. (coughAndrewBastardJacksoncough).

They have Charles Darwin on their money (the 10 pound note).
Exactly how is that incontrovertable? U.S. Notes have Abraham Lincoln and Goerge Washington. One freed the slaves, the other whooped the asses of those who have Darwin on thier notes.

I had a thread a while ago about the back of Bank of England notes, and here was my plan for reforming them come the revolution:

£5 - Sigmund Freud
£10 - Charles Darwin
£20 - Sylvia Pankhurst
£50 - Karl Marx

Although neither Marx nor Freud were born here, they both lived in the UK, and so should be justifiable choices.

Not bad. I prefer.

5 - Isaac Newton
10 - Charles Darwin
20 - Ernest Rutherford
50 - Benjamin "Benny" Hill.

Who can dispute that selection?

Thats a lie and you know it.

Struth cobber, it's fair dinkum. :p

Not bad. I prefer.

5 - Isaac Newton
10 - Charles Darwin
20 - Ernest Rutherford
50 - Benjamin "Benny" Hill.

Who can dispute that selection?

Why have an alchemist on the £5?
Can't argue with the £10
Rutherford I'm not so keen on - maybe at least one token woman would be nice, no?
Benny Hill? What to celebrate the fact that he sent condolences to the family of Frankie Howerd several days after he himselfg had died?

In a hotel in London.

You crack them like you do when you want fry them and put them in the microwave.

Ah yes, the infamous "Rubber Egg".

Incidentally, always prick the yolk, and give any microwaved egg a full two minutes before even attempting to move it from the microwave. Microwaves have a tendency to superheat stuff, and eggs are particularly susceptible to this due to reasons too technical to go into here.

Suffice to say, you could very well pull your egg out of the microwave, carry it across to the table, get your fork, stick it in, and *BLAT*.

Congratulations, you now have third degree burns caused by scalding egg yolk exploding on your face.

Exactly how is that incontrovertable? U.S. Notes have Abraham Lincoln and Goerge Washington. One freed the slaves, the other whooped the asses of those who have Darwin on thier notes.

You are overlooking the fact that the UK abolished slavery somewhat before the US: 1833 IIRC.

American Porn kicks anything that the UK can produce.

America also pwns the UK when it comes weather options!

Tornadoes, hurricanes, more hurricanes, earthquakes...

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!

Why have an alchemist on the £5
Can't argue with the £10
Rutherford I'm not so keen on - maybe at least one token woman would be nice, no?
Benny Hill? What to celebrate the fact that he sent condolences to the family of Frankie Howerd several days after he himselfg had died?

You're right. I've changed my mind. I now want Frankie Howard on the 50.

I picked Newton becuase he invented physics. It's a fairly valuable contribution.

As for a token woman, isn't the Queen already on the lot. The list can be revised when, and if, the UK gets a new monarch.

Edit: Better yet, I now want Max Wall on the 50.

You are overlooking the fact that the UK abolished slavery somewhat before the US: 1833 IIRC.

Though that has more to do with economics than any actual humanitarian goodwill on the part of the British of the time.

Exactly how is that incontrovertable? U.S. Notes have Abraham Lincoln and Goerge Washington. One freed the slaves, the other whooped the asses of those who have Darwin on thier notes.


As it has been noted, the brits beat us to the 'abolish slavery' thing and didnt have to fight a civil war to accomplish it.

What darwin on the ten points to is not "who has the most heroic hero on their note" but rather to the british national character.

It shows their resolve in rejecting fundementalism and religious mania.

As it has been noted, the brits beat us to the 'abolish slavery' thing and didnt have to fight a civil war to accomplish it.

What darwin on the ten points to is not "who has the most heroic hero on their note" but rather to the british national character.

It shows their resolve in rejecting fundementalism and religious mania.

...at the same time as having an official church, no less. That said, there's certainly been some dark patches - but that was back when there wasn't a USA or even a New World to compare the place to. ;)

Interesting debate. Still trying to figure out whether the fact you guys put out Black Adder is a plus or a minus.

And the only accent in all the UK that turns my head is a Dublin one, spoken by a long legged redhead... only time I was ever truly tempted to cheat on my beloved was in Dublin...

;)

I picked Newton becuase he invented physics. It's a fairly valuable contribution.

I think I would give Aristotle the benefit of the doubt on that one. Aristotle also beats Newton out by not being so afraid of his own sexuality that he died a virgin...

Interesting debate. Still trying to figure out whether the fact you guys put out Black Adder is a plus or a minus.

And the only accent in all the UK that turns my head is a Dublin one, spoken by a long legged redhead... only time I was ever truly tempted to cheat on my beloved was in Dublin...

;)
Try going to into a pub in Dublin and informing the locals that their accent is from "the UK"

...at the same time as having an official church, no less. That said, there's certainly been some dark patches - but that was back when there wasn't a USA or even a New World to compare the place to. ;)


Yup, but in any case we should try to keep the discussion focused on the relevent, which is to say the contemporary.

It is wonderful that they can maintain an official church, full religious toleration and an outright rejection of fundementalism and mania.

Try going to into a pub in Dublin and informing the locals that their accent is from "the UK"


The irish are terrorists :)

It is wonderful that they can maintain an official church, full religious toleration and an outright rejection of fundementalism and mania.

Well technically there are still blasphemy laws, and they still apply only to matters raised against Christianity as opposed to other religions, which colours the idea of 'full religious toleration' somewhat. and lest you think I am dealing in arcane historical trivia here, there has been much talk recently in some quarters of attempting to use the blasphemy laws to prevent the BBC screening items similar to Jerry Springer the Musical ever again.

Try going to into a pub in Dublin and informing the locals that their accent is from "the UK"

To which the most polite answer you will get is 'We don't have an accent, we have a brogue.'

I think I would give Aristotle the benefit of the doubt on that one. Aristotle also beats Newton out by not being so afraid of his own sexuality that he died a virgin...

Yeah, that's what an arts department professor at college told me too. Funny thing was though, I was studying engineering at the time, and Aristotles name never came up. Not once. Newton on the other hand was mentioned all the time. No one before him though.

That's why I give the prize of inventing physics to Newton. It's the same as crediting Watt with inventing the steam engine*, or Stephson for inventing the Steam train. Neither did, but they were the first to make working versions.

*I read somewhere that the greeks invented a steam powered toy, and that the Romans used steam power to open the great doors of the temple of jupiter.

Yeah, I've listened to a few of them before. Some of them are pretty funny. There's no Melbourne one though.

Well, paint me stupid, but I don't notice any regional variation in our accent.

Yeah, that's what an arts department professor at college told me too. Funny thing was though, I was studying engineering at the time, and Aristotles name never came up. Not once. Newton on the other hand was mentioned all the time. No one before him though.

And that is meant to be taken as a savage indictment of your engineering department, I take it?

*I read somewhere that the greeks invented a steam powered toy, and that the Romans used steam power to open the great doors of the temple of jupiter.

The chap's name was Hero IIRC, and the Romans probably picked up the idea from the Egyptians who had quite a number of pneumatically triggered automata and other temple tricks.

And that is meant to be taken as a savage indictment of your engineering department, I take it?


Not really, I was just pointing out that Aristotle may have thought of physics, but he didn't invent. I follow the same rule as the Patent office. Before you can make a claim on an invention, you have to reduce it to practice. Aristotle didn't do that. I'm not saying he wasn't smart, I just don't think he invented physics.

Not really, I was just pointing out that Aristotle may have thought of physics, but he didn't invent. I follow the same rule as the Patent office. Before you can make a claim on an invention, you have to reduce it to practice. Aristotle didn't do that. I'm not saying he wasn't smart, I just don't think he invented physics.

Galileo not even get a mention?

Galileo not even get a mention?

Let me think. No. He was correct about the way the solar system was (the general shape), but he didn't reduce it to practice. Kepler maybe -ish. Although I can't think of what you would use his laws for other than confirming already observed phenomenon, which Tycho Brahe thoughtfully provided to him. Though I would accept Tycho on the currency because of his cool metal nose.

I give it to Newton, becuase he came up with a way of predicting stuff quantifiably that hadn't already been observed. Say what you like about the guys before him (and there is no doubt they were smart) you couldn't really use their stuff to do much other than talk about what you already knew. I mean, imagine if you applied Aristotilian physics to ballistics. (Actually I never understood why aristotles view was so widely accepted given that every moving object required a mover unless it was "falling" towards the center of the universe. I know the Greeks used javelins for fun and profit, but whatever*).

So Newton it is. He invented physics.

*I do know that there was some baffling explaination involving a vacuum being created in front of the thrown object or something, but that doesn't sound very convincing either. I suppose my wonderment at people actually taking Aristotle's theories without question is a product of what some folks term a "paradigm shift." My Grandfather, who studied divinty at Durham a long time ago, seemed to actually believe that Aristotle hit the nail on the head apparently. He was convinced that anything in a vacuum would travel with infinite speed or something else equally as outre; the space program and astronomy notwithstanding.

My Grandfather, who studied divinty at Durham a long time ago, seemed to actually believe that Aristotle hit the nail on the head apparently. He was convinced that anything in a vacuum would travel with infinite speed or something else equally as outre; the space program and astronomy notwithstanding.

I'll come back to the rest of your post tomorrow, but this thing about travel in a vaccuum isn't Aristotle. Sounds to me like you have mistakes baout both what your Grandfather and Aristotle believed (although, to be fair your grandfather may have indeed believed this...)

I'll come back to the rest of your post tomorrow, but this thing about travel in a vaccuum isn't Aristotle. Sounds to me like you have mistakes baout both what your Grandfather and Aristotle believed (although, to be fair your grandfather may have indeed believed this...)

I'm sure I have it wrong. I do remeber the part about every violent motion requiring a mover though, which doesn't explain why things are thrown.

I probably am misremembering what Gramps said at the time too. I just remember it was so bizzare I was like "What????!!!!!". He firmly believed it though.

You know not all us Australians greet people with 'G,Day Mate' and sound like Steve Irwin.

Come on! You are not going to tell us you don't throw shimp on the barby and don't drink Fosters? :eek:

Interesting debate. Still trying to figure out whether the fact you guys put out Black Adder is a plus or a minus.

And the only accent in all the UK that turns my head is a Dublin one, spoken by a long legged redhead... only time I was ever truly tempted to cheat on my beloved was in Dublin...

;)

One of the dumbest things I did was not wait around the woolen Mill in Blarney. Beautiful Blond that showed interest! Ahh well. She is probably far hotter in my imagination! ;)

Come on! You are not going to tell us you don't throw shimp on the barby and don't drink Fosters? :eek:

No, but I throw prawns on the barbie and drink VB. :p