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Band of the 90's?

Mutant Dogs 3
02-02-2005, 11:08
Well?!!!!!?
Adrian Barbeau-Bot
02-02-2005, 11:11
psh. nirvana, duh. no need to even explain that one.
Legless Pirates
02-02-2005, 11:13
Aerosmith > all
Adrian Barbeau-Bot
02-02-2005, 11:14
Aerosmith > all

:eek:

the shame. dont you feel guilty for saying that?
Mutant Dogs 3
02-02-2005, 11:14
Omfg Terpuuuuutus
Harlesburg
02-02-2005, 11:15
I went RHCP but U2 would be up there too.
Joesia
02-02-2005, 11:17
Seriously. *votes Nirvana*

I can point out so many flaws in that poll. Well. Maybe just a couple.

1. U2 started in the 1980's. They were immensely popular in the 1980's.
2. Aerosmith started as early as the 1970's. Yet again. Immensely popular pre 1990's.
3. Bon Jovi was, yet again, in the 1980's. Disappeared for most of the 1990's.
4. Nirvana, along with a few other bands, STARTED a new musical movement, grunge. Starting new genres proves to be difficult (look at the Ramones... some don't even consider them the fathers of punk...which they pretty much are).
Kanabia
02-02-2005, 11:18
What, you included Blink 182 but left out RATM? Pfft.

Nirvana.
Kanabia
02-02-2005, 11:21
4. Nirvana, along with a few other bands, STARTED a new musical movement, grunge.

Not really, they popularised it, like the Sex Pistols did to punk. Unlike the Sex Pistols, they were probably the best at what they did (IMHO), but Soundgarden, The Melvins and others were around commerically for a few years before Nirvana released Bleach...
Kellarly
02-02-2005, 11:22
R.E.M. :- Unlike pretty much every other band on there has produced consistantly good albums, with quality song writing, and decent musical talent, as well as sounding as good, if not better live.
Los Banditos
02-02-2005, 11:23
Weezer should have been on here...
Joesia
02-02-2005, 11:27
Thank you, Kanabia, for correcting me. Need to make that mental note now.

But yes...

.....I completely forgot what I was about to say. *blinks*

.........
Kanabia
02-02-2005, 11:29
Thank you, Kanabia, for correcting me.

Always a pleasure :D
Legless Pirates
02-02-2005, 11:30
:eek:

the shame. dont you feel guilty for saying that?
Aerosmith > all since 1970
Adrian Barbeau-Bot
02-02-2005, 11:38
Aerosmith > all since 1970

oh, ok.



inow if you'll excuse me, i have to go jab little sharp sticks repeatedly into my eyeballs after reading that.
Delator
02-02-2005, 12:21
WTF?!?!?!

Two bands that should absolutely NOT be on this poll: Bon Jovi and Blink 182

:mad: :mp5:


Two bands that absolutely SHOULD replace them: Rage Against the Machine and Nine Inch Nails
Adrian Barbeau-Bot
02-02-2005, 12:22
WTF?!?!?!

Two bands that should absolutely NOT be on this poll: Bon Jovi and Blink 182

:mad: :mp5:


Two bands that absolutely SHOULD replace them: Rage Against the Machine and Nine Inch Nails

amen
Soviet Haaregrad
02-02-2005, 12:26
Indian Summer were, in my opinion, the best band of the 1990s.

Saetia's a pretty close second.

Of what's on the list, I'll go with Smashing Pumpkins.
Branin
02-02-2005, 12:30
RHCP
Los Banditos
02-02-2005, 12:31
Indian Summer were, in my opinion, the best band of the 1990s.

Saetia's a pretty close second.

Of what's on the list, I'll go with Smashing Pumpkins.
Hell yeah. Too bad noone else here ever heard of them.
Niini
02-02-2005, 21:34
That's the list???

I Went with U2 just for fun of it...
Seriosly the list is missing "The Stone Roses" Why why dear god

Voi peura jumala :p
Occidio Multus
02-02-2005, 22:20
Blood sugar sex magik was one of the best albums ever made.

and i am a metalhead at that.
Occidio Multus
02-02-2005, 22:21
Hell yeah. Too bad noone else here ever heard of them.
i think they were bands HE was in.
Sdaeriji
02-02-2005, 22:21
Aerosmith > all

*stab*
Sdaeriji
02-02-2005, 22:22
Weezer should have been on here...

Agreed times a million.
Drunk commies
02-02-2005, 22:23
None of the above. I vote for Tool.
Drunk commies
02-02-2005, 22:25
WTF?!?!?!

Two bands that should absolutely NOT be on this poll: Bon Jovi and Blink 182

:mad: :mp5:


Two bands that absolutely SHOULD replace them: Rage Against the Machine and Nine Inch Nails
True Dat.
Atica
02-02-2005, 22:25
I was torn between Nirvana and Peppers.
Lascivious Maximus
02-02-2005, 22:25
In the 90's I was listening to mostly punk etc. (when it comes to rock) - so Ill have to say that my list would have included bands such as Bad Religion, Social Distortion, Sublime and the like.

C'mon, you aren't seriously going to give Blink more cred's than Bad Religion are you? :(
Fimble loving peoples
02-02-2005, 22:27
That was a tough one. I was split between Nirvana and REM. I picked Nirvana in the end. And a good few of those bands had their major successes before or after the 90's.
Atica
02-02-2005, 22:27
What about Judas Priest?
Land Sector A-7G
02-02-2005, 22:27
Dude its all about the Nirvana, and closly followed by Greenday, Blink sucks
Stroudiztan
02-02-2005, 22:31
That was a tough one. I was split between Nirvana and REM. I picked Nirvana in the end. And a good few of those bands had their major successes before or after the 90's.

Your split between choices might not have needed splitting if Cobain hadn't died so soon. He and Michael Stipe had been discussing a collaboration. It could have been really awesome.

I don't think U2 really needs to be there, since they are largely viewed as the Band of the 80's. While I enjoy all their albums, Zooropa and Pop had nowhere near the appeal of War and the Joshua Tree.

I chose R.E.M., myself. Automatic for the People was a HUGE album, certainly one of the top five of the decade. Monster was heavy and really good too, and New Adventures in Hi-Fi is probably my personal favourite to-date.
Spearmen
02-02-2005, 22:32
I think the nineties were not a good time for pop music... :(
Fimble loving peoples
02-02-2005, 22:35
Your split between choices might not have needed splitting if Cobain hadn't died so soon. He and Michael Stipe had been discussing a collaboration. It could have been really awesome.

I don't think U2 really needs to be there, since they are largely viewed as the Band of the 80's. While I enjoy all their albums, Zooropa and Pop had nowhere near the appeal of War and the Joshua Tree.

I chose R.E.M., myself. Automatic for the People was a HUGE album, certainly one of the top five of the decade. Monster was heavy and really good too, and New Adventures in Hi-Fi is probably my personal favourite to-date.

I never knew that. Damn Kurt for dying.
Taverham high
02-02-2005, 22:35
oh look, it seems you've forgotten radiohead. oh well i forgive you. we're all allowed one mistake.
Compulsorily Controled
02-02-2005, 22:37
Guess what... Most of those aren't even 90s bands, they're bands that happen to have still existed in the 90s. I'm guessing the poster is around 14? Just by the choices for best and the fact that most of the bands had their prime times before the 90s. Not that I have anything against 14 year olds, I teach them all day, in fact.
Glaivenia
02-02-2005, 22:37
the 90's were host to musical crap.
the 80's on the other hand, now were talking
Compulsorily Controled
02-02-2005, 22:38
I never knew that. Damn Kurt for dying.
lol... Cobain died a long time ago... lol
Forstona
02-02-2005, 22:38
Where the hell is Pearl Jam? You can't go wrong with a song like "Cordouroy".
Lascivious Maximus
02-02-2005, 22:40
Where the hell is Pearl Jam? You can't go wrong with a song like "Cordouroy".
Or for that matter almost any of their songs! One of the best bands of all time. I agree - if were going to post all pop - why arent we posting PJ? :confused:
Stroudiztan
02-02-2005, 22:40
oh look, it seems you've forgotten radiohead. oh well i forgive you. we're all allowed one mistake.

Radiohead's a tough choice, because they're hardly "rock" anymore. Alternative.

edit: I realize this doesn't say "best rock band", but considering most of the other groups up there, it's hard to compare Radiohead with them.

Also, Blink 182 is not a band. It's what happens when you a troop of monkeys breaks into the back of a music store.
Taverham high
02-02-2005, 22:45
Radiohead's a tough choice, because they're hardly "rock" anymore. Alternative.

well the poll wasn't just meant to be rock, its best bands, but of course all the best bands are guitar bands. and some of radioheads most 'rocky' moments (2+2=5) were on their last album methinks.
Stroudiztan
02-02-2005, 22:47
well the poll wasn't just meant to be rock, its best bands, but of course all the best bands are guitar bands. and some of radioheads most 'rocky' moments (2+2=5) were on their last album methinks.

Curses. If I had added my edit before cooking Kraft Dinner, I would have gotten it done before you'd caught my gaffe.
Oh well.
Taverham high
02-02-2005, 22:49
Curses. If I had added my edit before cooking Kraft Dinner, I would have gotten it done before you'd caught my gaffe.
Oh well.

heh heh, i was a bit quick off the mark. blink 182 = i agree.
Incline
02-02-2005, 22:53
They all suck, find some Schlong on EBay, that is real music, one of the few solid bands that was around for all of the 90's, along with Skankin' Pickle. Nirvana is just a bad version of the Replacements, U2 was good in the 80's, REM is the only good band on that list(in the 90's), and Green Day is just Operation Ivy without the energy or talent. Oh, and Blink is to Green Day what Green Day is to OPIV.
Wright County
02-02-2005, 22:54
Bon Jovi? Really?
Bussell
02-02-2005, 23:00
The Who definitely were the fathers of punk. The Clash were an incredible punk advancement, and probably the first people to sound alot like our modern mutation of it.

The biggest problem with all of this, however, is:

WHERE IS RADIOHEAD!? Oh my. :rolleyes:
Niini
02-02-2005, 23:05
In the 90's I was listening to mostly punk etc. (when it comes to rock) - so Ill have to say that my list would have included bands such as Bad Religion, Social Distortion, Sublime and the like.

C'mon, you aren't seriously going to give Blink more cred's than Bad Religion are you? :(

You are right
Taverham high
02-02-2005, 23:05
The Who definitely were the fathers of punk. The Clash were an incredible punk advancement, and probably the first people to sound alot like our modern mutation of it.

The biggest problem with all of this, however, is:

WHERE IS RADIOHEAD!? Oh my. :rolleyes:

listen to this person. they have class.
Black Peoples Republic
02-02-2005, 23:19
Smashing Pumpkins all the flippin way!
Lascivious Maximus
02-02-2005, 23:29
You are right
Thats more like it! :)
San Texario
02-02-2005, 23:38
Even though it's not up there, old scool No Doubt with the ska.
But in the poll: Pumpkins.
Jayastan
02-02-2005, 23:40
who the fuck picked Oasis? :mad:

If so you need to be shot.
Jayastan
02-02-2005, 23:42
Where is offspring before "fly for a white guy"

I voted for the chillis

love Bad religion though
Eichen
03-02-2005, 00:25
If we're talking popular, then Nirvana. Refused to vote though due to the absence of Nine Inch Nails.
Jayastan
03-02-2005, 00:32
If we're talking popular, then Nirvana. Refused to vote though due to the absence of Nine Inch Nails.


ya or TOOL? what the hell no tool?
Drunk commies
03-02-2005, 00:33
ya or TOOL? what the hell no tool?
I voted Tool earlier in the thread.
Rasselas
03-02-2005, 00:39
Haha, looks like I'm the only Bon Jovi fan here..... :( I preferred their 80s stuff though.
Preebles
03-02-2005, 00:40
Um... REM, Live and Rammstein.
Keruvalia
03-02-2005, 00:41
Mmkay ... U2, REM, Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers weren't 90s bands. Sure, they did some stuff in the 90s, but none of them got their start in the 90s.

Try again and do a little research.

U2, first album "Boy", released October 1980. First 90s album was their 9th album, "Achtung Baby", released November 1991.

REM, first album "Chronic Town", released August 1982. First 90s album was their 9th album, "Out Of Time", released March 1991.

Bon Jovi, first album "Bon Jovi", released 1984. First 90s album was thier 5th album, "Keep the Faith", released 1992.

Aerosmith, first album "Aerosmith", released January 1973. First 90s album was their 16th album, "Pandora's Box", released November 1991.

RHCP, first album "Red Hot Chili Peppers", released 1984. First 90s album was their 6th album, "Blood Sugar Sex Magik", released 1991.
Nadkor
03-02-2005, 00:46
Radiohead all the way...The Bends, Pablo Honey....OK Computer....yea, Radiohead win
Bodhis
03-02-2005, 01:16
Smashing Pumpkins out of the list, although REM deserves mad props.

You left out Live, Pearl Jam, RATM, Radiohead, and Tool.
Stephazonia
03-02-2005, 01:20
Savage Garden!
Vittos Ordination
03-02-2005, 01:26
I voted for the Smashing Pumpkins, but I would put Radiohead, Beck, Blur, Weezer, and Uncle Tupelo/Wilco above them.
Vittos Ordination
03-02-2005, 01:28
Smashing Pumpkins out of the list, although REM deserves mad props.

You left out Live, Pearl Jam, RATM, Radiohead, and Tool.

Live and Tool? Pearl Jam wouldn't even belong on there even though they are better than some of the bands listed.
Toujours-Rouge
03-02-2005, 02:46
Voted for Oasis as the only representative of 90s Brit Rock. Manics/The Verve/Ocean Colour Scene/Blur/Stereophonics/Lightning Seeds anyone? I vastly prefer the genre to punk/grunge/metal etc etc but maybe that's just me.
Swimmingpool
03-02-2005, 02:58
Without a single doubt, The Smashing Pumpkins.

Let Siamese Dream rip through you (metaphorically) and then make your judgement.
Bodies Without Organs
03-02-2005, 03:05
Seriously. *votes Nirvana*

I can point out so many flaws in that poll. Well. Maybe just a couple.

1. U2 started in the 1980's.

Explain to me why then my copy of their first release (the Irish pressing of the Three EP) has 1979 on its record label?
Kanabia
03-02-2005, 03:05
Without a single doubt, The Smashing Pumpkins.

Let Siamese Dream rip through you (metaphorically) and then make your judgement.


The Pumpkins did some damn awesome stuff...Geek USA gets in my top 5 songs ever..but also (IMO) some not so good stuff. I think there were more consistent bands from the decade.
Bodies Without Organs
03-02-2005, 03:10
C'mon, you aren't seriously going to give Blink more cred's than Bad Religion are you? :(

Much as I love Bad Religion, it has to be admitted though that they haven't exactly gone anywhere with their sound since their first release back in '81(?) - everything since then has pretty much been variations on a theme.
Eichen
03-02-2005, 05:34
I had problems with the given, but I finally voted as I thought I would ...

Green Day. I'm a huge fan and their the only punk band worth mentioning (Blinbk 182 are hyped-up Pop versions of GD, in my opinion)--

Plus we're political buddies! (didn't even know this until last year. very obvious though).

Billie Joe (http://www.self-gov.org/celebrities/billie-joe-armstrong.html)
Cheesy bio, but you get the point.
Eichen
03-02-2005, 05:37
Mmkay ... U2, REM, Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers weren't 90s bands. Sure, they did some stuff in the 90s, but none of them got their start in the 90s.

Try again and do a little research.

U2, first album "Boy", released October 1980. First 90s album was their 9th album, "Achtung Baby", released November 1991.

REM, first album "Chronic Town", released August 1982. First 90s album was their 9th album, "Out Of Time", released March 1991.

Bon Jovi, first album "Bon Jovi", released 1984. First 90s album was thier 5th album, "Keep the Faith", released 1992.

Aerosmith, first album "Aerosmith", released January 1973. First 90s album was their 16th album, "Pandora's Box", released November 1991.

RHCP, first album "Red Hot Chili Peppers", released 1984. First 90s album was their 6th album, "Blood Sugar Sex Magik", released 1991.
Thanks. For now, Keruvalia= Less Carpal Tunnel.
Salutus
03-02-2005, 05:40
you should be ashamed at not including some of the greatest bands, not just of the 90s, but EVER;

rage against the machine
soundgarden
everclear
Eichen
03-02-2005, 05:42
*bows*
To those that mentioned Tool, I'm ashamed I forgot Maynard.
Lascivious Maximus
03-02-2005, 05:46
*bows*
To those that mentioned Tool, I'm ashamed I forgot Maynard.
Damn! YES!

Aenima was one of the best albums ever!!
Kanabia
03-02-2005, 06:55
Damn! YES!

Aenima was one of the best albums ever!!

I don't reckon they were consistent either. Opiate and Aenima are fantastic, but Undertow and Lateralus are a bit meh.

soundgarden

Awesome band, but a couple of others outclass them IMHO.
Mutant Dogs 3
03-02-2005, 07:03
Seriously. *votes Nirvana*

I can point out so many flaws in that poll. Well. Maybe just a couple.

1. U2 started in the 1980's. They were immensely popular in the 1980's.
2. Aerosmith started as early as the 1970's. Yet again. Immensely popular pre 1990's.
3. Bon Jovi was, yet again, in the 1980's. Disappeared for most of the 1990's.
4. Nirvana, along with a few other bands, STARTED a new musical movement, grunge. Starting new genres proves to be difficult (look at the Ramones... some don't even consider them the fathers of punk...which they pretty much are).

All those bands still made music in the 90s dumbass. Seriously think before you say something. You were trying to sound intelligent, but came off looking like a dickhead idiot. :rolleyes:
Bodhis
03-02-2005, 07:11
Live and Tool? Pearl Jam wouldn't even belong on there even though they are better than some of the bands listed.

Pearl Jam is over a million times better than Nirvana. I'm sorry, but if Kurt didn't off himself, Nirvana would have died off fairly quickly. Kurt wasn't a genius and I think his lyrics was horrid. I mean, they're okay, but they are wwwwwaaaayyyy over-rated. Pearl Jam has been kicking for a long time and STILL sell out concerts within minutes. I think their music has been amazing from the beginning and even their last album was pretty good.

Live, yes, but that is a personal opinion. Who hasn't heard Lightning Crashes, I Alone, Selling the Drama, and White, Discussion? Not to mention on a lot of markets Lakini's Juice and The Dolphin's Cry were very popular. In 1991-1992 they had a pretty good following and Pain Lies on the Riverside got some decent airplay; but I will admit it wasn't until Throwing Copper that they took off.

Tool is also a personal opinion. I guess they are just one of those bands that defines a generation but never was played much on the radio. ;)
Eichen
03-02-2005, 07:16
I don't reckon they were consistent either. Opiate and Aenima are fantastic, but Undertow and Lateralus are a bit meh.



Awesome band, but a couple of others outclass them IMHO.
Maybe that's a slight bit valid, but you're a thousand steps away right now...

REALLY???
Kanabia
03-02-2005, 07:16
Pearl Jam are boring. They were better as Mother Love Bone but still nothing to write home about. They've only survived so long because they're fairly mainstream. I will however admit in advance that I only know a select few songs. Please Bodhis, suggest a good Pearl Jam song, 'cause I haven't heard one yet.
Lascivious Maximus
03-02-2005, 07:17
Maybe that's a slight bit valid, but you're a thousand steps away right now...

REALLY???
Naw - he just never listened to that final track on Undertow - couldn't be bothered to skip through all the 1 second dummies! haha! I still get a kick out of that... and that last track is amazing. ;)
Lascivious Maximus
03-02-2005, 07:18
Pearl Jam are boring. They were better as Mother Love Bone but still nothing to write home about. They've only survived so long because they're fairly mainstream. I will however admit in advance that I only know a select few songs. Please Bodhis, suggest a good Pearl Jam song, 'cause I haven't heard one yet.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
No way! PJ rocks!
Kanabia
03-02-2005, 07:21
Naw - he just never listened to that final track on Undertow - couldn't be bothered to skip through all the 1 second dummies! haha! I still get a kick out of that... and that last track is amazing. ;)

I'll admit i've only heard it once ;) I own the other three, but I wasn't impressed with it really, so it's been shifted down to the bottom couple of rungs on my "CD's to buy" ladder. Sober is a good song though.

:eek: :eek: :eek:
No way! PJ rocks!

Then suggest a good song of theirs.
Lascivious Maximus
03-02-2005, 07:28
Then suggest a good song of theirs.
Get on MSN, and Ill shoot you a couple ;)
Kanabia
03-02-2005, 08:06
Get on MSN, and Ill shoot you a couple ;)

Okay, i'll be on there later tonight if you're still on. I have to work in an hour.
Eichen
03-02-2005, 08:21
Naw - he just never listened to that final track on Undertow.
After 12 years, the song you're talking about best expresses my return to non-vegetarianism (I've only been eating meat for almost 3 months now)
Delator
03-02-2005, 08:56
*smacks self* :headbang:

I totally forgot TOOL!!!

In terms of muscial talent and technical prowess...I would have to say they were THE best band of the last 20 years...I'm open to other opinions, but I've never heard a band that could play that well, that consistently, and over such a long period of time.

As I stated before, I did not vote, for the same reason as Eichen...the absence of Nine Inch Nails on the poll.

Technically an 80's band (Pretty Hate Machine was released in '89), but had it not been for the emergence of Grunge, it would be highly likely that Nine Inch Nails would have taken the place of Nirvana in terms of the musical culture of the decade.

New NIN release in March or April of this year!!! *Wets his pants with excitement*
Harlesburg
03-02-2005, 11:21
Weezer should have been on here...
Definatly The Blue Albums amazing
Legless Pirates
03-02-2005, 11:22
Weezer? Best band of the 90's? :confused:
Harlesburg
03-02-2005, 11:29
Where the hell is Pearl Jam? You can't go wrong with a song like "Cordouroy".
Good song
Belperia
03-02-2005, 11:30
Nirvana. Although I found it funny seeing Blink182 in there. Good comedy band, nothing more.
Pencil Suckers
03-02-2005, 12:21
Suprised there is no RATM or Nine Inch Nails on the poll.
Also somewhat suprised no Tool and Sublime, but not so much as the other two.
Anyway, my vote goes to Smashing Pumpkins, mainly because of 1979 :)
Quentulus Qazgar
03-02-2005, 13:14
Babylon zoo! :D
StManus
03-02-2005, 14:01
right, so we've covered the early 90's..

and the late 90's?
it really pisses me off that people completley undermine the music that came in the late 90's, just because of turds like Fred Durst who give it a bad name.

Korn, for example, created a completely new genre.. does that mean nothing?
yes they were ripped off by about 200 bands and so everyone sorta got bored of hearing the same old thing but surely if you've influenced that much then your worthy of some recognition.. regardless of how fat you are these days.

but because all of that was completely ignored i'm gona go for Nirvana because although they weren't technically brilliant or the innovators of grunge, they did inspire a whole generation of people.. that alone is enough.
Bono is the Messiah
03-02-2005, 14:18
U2 formed in 1976 but at the time it was known as Feedback. They changed it to U2 in 1978 and cut their first single in 1979. Their first album was published in 1980. Just some FYI ;)
Harlesburg
04-02-2005, 07:22
right, so we've covered the early 90's..

and the late 90's?
it really pisses me off that people completley undermine the music that came in the late 90's, just because of turds like Fred Durst who give it a bad name.

Korn, for example, created a completely new genre.. does that mean nothing?
yes they were ripped off by about 200 bands and so everyone sorta got bored of hearing the same old thing but surely if you've influenced that much then your worthy of some recognition.. regardless of how fat you are these days.

but because all of that was completely ignored i'm gona go for Nirvana because although they weren't technically brilliant or the innovators of grunge, they did inspire a whole generation of people.. that alone is enough.
I stood aside i stood alone and i was proved right Kor(Backwards R)n were crap
Mutant Dogs 3
07-02-2005, 08:54
bump