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Computer stuff..stil

Reaper_2k3
02-02-2005, 03:17
in addition ti yesterdays questioning i dont know if i want to replace my power supply or if i need to

i have a 250w power supply
system:
1 stick ddr sdram (another stick when i go complain about a faulty stick to kingston)
amd 64 3300+ (yes there is a 3300, apparently its only made for the Pavilion a810n and amd pretends they dont make it)
a wireless adapter in one usb slot and a video game controller in another
a 56k modem card these things come with and a couple coolnig fans

im getting a radeon 9600 pro (i think still) for my bday and i need to know if i need a new power supply

any help?
Reaper_2k3
02-02-2005, 03:43
no really, bumptasm
Reaper_2k3
02-02-2005, 14:26
anyone know..
Findecano Calaelen
02-02-2005, 14:43
I think you should be fine, if im wrong get a new power supply :)
Reaper_2k3
02-02-2005, 14:49
I think you should be fine, if im wrong get a new power supply :)
brilliant, just brilliant
Independent Homesteads
02-02-2005, 14:56
a 250w power supply is extremely lame. I'd bump it up to 350 for no reason at all, and since you're changing go for 400 at least.

I don't know if you *need* a new power supply, but I only have a 350w in my box, and it underpowers my cpu fan.
Reaper_2k3
02-02-2005, 14:57
a 250w power supply is extremely lame. I'd bump it up to 350 for no reason at all, and since you're changing go for 400 at least.

I don't know if you *need* a new power supply, but I only have a 350w in my box, and it underpowers my cpu fan.
and what the hell are you running eveythin and then some with a heavy fan? =\

and i the cheapest power supply i think i can get without being crappy is 30$ and its 300w
Zoidburg XIX
02-02-2005, 15:07
If someone is sinking that much money into a video card that ballsy, you'll want to up the power supply.

It won't strictly require the added power, but you won't be able to maximize the card's potential if you do not.

Also, what are your other system specs. Are you sure your motherboard even supports that card?
Reaper_2k3
02-02-2005, 15:12
If someone is sinking that much money into a video card that ballsy, you'll want to up the power supply.

It won't strictly require the added power, but you won't be able to maximize the card's potential if you do not.

Also, what are your other system specs. Are you sure your motherboard even supports that card?
100$ isnt that much for a vid card, especially a 256mb radeon, and im getting it for my bday from some one

and i dont plan to maximize the potential, i dont care about overclocknig anything, i plan to run stuff like guild wars or evil genius or maybe even doom 3 without the computer threatening to commit suicide and without getting 5 fps

and yes, it has an agp slot, thus it supports an agp card, its a late 2004 early 2005 produced system from hp look it up pavilion a810n
Zoidburg XIX
02-02-2005, 15:16
Scratch that, you do support it, just barely.

The AGP slot that is provided by HP in their Pavillion computers is nothing short of pathetic, but it will service your card. My suggestion to you is to canabalize that crappy HP and build your own. Pre-packaged systems suck, and HP's doubly so.

You did manage to get your hands on one of HPs better shit festivals, but since it's an HP, it's a shit festival all the same. Believe me, I've never had computer troubles like the ones caused by those two hated letters. HP.
Dontgonearthere
02-02-2005, 15:16
Interesting...I went from a RAGE 128 pro to a RADEON 9800, which meant that I needed a new case and a new power supply.
Had to get a 500mw for all the fans.
But it was a good excuse to go from my plain grey box type case to a cool one with shiney LED lights on it.
Psylos
02-02-2005, 15:18
If it works, don't fix it.
Zoidburg XIX
02-02-2005, 15:26
i dont plan to maximize the potential, i dont care about overclocknig anything, i plan to run stuff like guild wars or evil genius or maybe even doom 3 without the computer threatening to commit suicide and without getting 5 fps

Never said anything about overclocking. Especially since overclocking has nothing to do with this. Overclocking is a process by which you increase processing power by adjusting the internal clock for the processor and thereby increase the number of electrical pulses sent to and from the processor.

What I meant was that you'll only get about 2/3 of the supported fps without the power supply upgrade.

Also, don't count on being able to run Doom3 unless you have already addressed the issue of shared memory. All the hardware in the world cannot save a computer from crappy allocation.
The Blackguard
02-02-2005, 15:28
Okay.

Your current hardware configuration will most likely work, but it falls into the 'just barely' area now you are throwing in all these high-powered components.

If you start to encounter problems, such as sudden and unexpected crashes or shutdowns, consider buying a new PSU. If you run your computer on insufficient power, it will damage itself over time.

IF you want to future-proof your computer a little, buy a good 300-400w power supply, which should make room for an extra hard-disk/CDRW/elaborate cathode setup in the future.
Reaper_2k3
02-02-2005, 15:30
Scratch that, you do support it, just barely.

The AGP slot that is provided by HP in their Pavillion computers is nothing short of pathetic, but it will service your card. My suggestion to you is to canabalize that crappy HP and build your own. Pre-packaged systems suck, and HP's doubly so.

You did manage to get your hands on one of HPs better shit festivals, but since it's an HP, it's a shit festival all the same. Believe me, I've never had computer troubles like the ones caused by those two hated letters. HP.
ive never had a single problem with them, and we've had 3

IF you want to future-proof your computer a little, buy a good 300-400w power supply, which should make room for an extra hard-disk/CDRW/elaborate cathode setup in the future.
it doesnt support 2 harddrives unless i buy an extra sleeve or it would have 2, i copied all data from my last comp onto this comps harddrive which was luckily 160gb
it hasa cd-+rw,dvd-+rw (if i recall, but it has both)
and i dont think icare about cathodes
Zoidburg XIX
02-02-2005, 15:45
Sorry, I tend to be quite anti-HP as my family has put them through their paces and come away unsatisfied every time.

To date we've had 5 desktop HP's and one laptop, and the same problems keep popping up. If you never do anything terribly intensive with your computer, an HP will probably be fine, but if you ever start to really push it an HP will start to show its flaws. Generally they tend to have shared memory, even after replacing the video card, and the OEM version of Windows that they package is so choaked with BS background programs that 51% or higher of your overall power is being used behind your back.

Again, you'll probably be ok with what you've got if you only plan on using it for games/internet/word processor, but if you start getting more intense with it, you're going to need to do something different.
Reaper_2k3
02-02-2005, 15:53
Sorry, I tend to be quite anti-HP as my family has put them through their paces and come away unsatisfied every time.

To date we've had 5 desktop HP's and one laptop, and the same problems keep popping up. If you never do anything terribly intensive with your computer, an HP will probably be fine, but if you ever start to really push it an HP will start to show its flaws. Generally they tend to have shared memory, even after replacing the video card, and the OEM version of Windows that they package is so choaked with BS background programs that 51% or higher of your overall power is being used behind your back.

Again, you'll probably be ok with what you've got if you only plan on using it for games/internet/word processor, but if you start getting more intense with it, you're going to need to do something different.
yeah i canceled the starting of nearly a dozen background programs on my other hp and need to start doing the same on this one

and what gets more intensive than games?
Zoidburg XIX
02-02-2005, 16:23
yeah i canceled the starting of nearly a dozen background programs on my other hp and need to start doing the same on this one

and what gets more intensive than games?

What I do for a living (in addition to college). Computer and network diagnostics, programming, general computer repair, graphic design, sound and video processing, ect.

Basically my position with the company is to do anything involving a computer that needs done. Hence why I flame about HP's so often, because if I ever get called out of my little cubicle it's either a network that needs set up, or an HP/Compaq (which is just an HP in disguise) that has broken down.