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The Neocon Agenda: Three World Wars

Willamena
01-02-2005, 21:17
I discovered this site last year, and although it comes off as a huge conspiracy theory, it was a fascinating read:
http://www.threeworldwars.com/

If you click on Overview (http://www.threeworldwars.com/overview.htm), you can follow along, how the Neoconservative government in the USA is supporting the agenda of Three World Wars proposed by Free Mason prophet Albert Pike (http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike.htm) to create a New World Order.
The Third World War was foreseen to be between Zionism and Islam. This prediction is incredible in many ways, beginning with the understanding that this prediction of a third world war occurred in 1870, a time when Israel did not exist as a nation, and when no one believed it would ever exist again.

The vision predicted that out of the smoke and destruction of this World War, a new leader will stride triumphantly, to put an end to the War, and to finally give the embattled world "Peace and Safety".

Interestingly, to back up this prediction, a report was released in December 1996 by The U.S. House of Representatives' Task Force On Terrorism And Unconventional Warfare. It was entitled, 'Approaching the New Cycle of Arab-Israeli Fighting'. In brief, the report tells us that such nations as Syria, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, and Egypt are planning and building for a final, devastating war of annihilation against Israel. This includes acquiring nuclear, biological and chemical weapons (NBC) in a mix with conventional weapons, e.g. tanks, aircraft, and soldiers, all in massive, overwhelming numbers."
Check it over and tell us what you think.
Neo-Anarchists
01-02-2005, 21:26
I've only skimmed it, but I agree it is pretty interesting.
This site seems to have done much more research than most other conspiracy sites tend to.
Willamena
01-02-2005, 21:39
The history of Pike gives the best feel for what the plot is.
Sdaeriji
01-02-2005, 21:40
Interesting....
Willamena
01-02-2005, 21:44
Another quote from the website:
Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."

Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Jews and Arabs. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.
Von Witzleben
01-02-2005, 22:01
Aha.
Swimmingpool
01-02-2005, 23:35
I don't trust those "predictions" not to have been recently doctored to *match* the history of WW1 and WW2, especially considering that they came from a website.

It notes instability between Jews and Arabs, but this is not new. It has been going on ever since the time Israel was established.
Pure Science
01-02-2005, 23:44
So Lucifer (Satan) is behind the conspiracy? That makes it all the more believable...
Willamena
01-02-2005, 23:56
I don't trust those "predictions" not to have been recently doctored to *match* the history of WW1 and WW2, especially considering that they came from a website.

It notes instability between Jews and Arabs, but this is not new. It has been going on ever since the time Israel was established.
Albert Pike (http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/159547997X/qid=1107298524/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_0_1/701-7231600-3873114) is a published author from the 1880's. His predictions are published elsewhere.

And the instability he predicted, he did so a century and a half before Israel was created.
Eastern Coast America
01-02-2005, 23:58
That would actually be a decent reason why we have this War on Terror.

Except, Iran wants to get nukes because it's like pride to them. And one of the powerful parties in Iran are made up of American educated Engineers. So, they won't be doing anything.

Pakistan is too busy staring down India.

Iraq's army is in pieces. Even before our war on terror. And Saddam didn't have any WMDs or Nukes.

During the last war with Israel, all the surrounding countries of Israel attacked. Didn't work, Israel won in 3 days. And, Israel actually has nukes. Good ones at that. You also can't use chemical weapons on Israel because they have all the American chemical weapon suits. Nukes? Israel has them too. Their probably going to nuke you first. Biological weapons, no one's stupid enough to use that. You use biological weapons (aside from anthrax) you are going to cause the next damn plague.

The first and second world war is just wrong.

First world war wasn't caused by the Russians.

Third world war will destroy christianity? Er, almost every European country is Christians. Americans are Christians. Christians > Muslim in terms of population. Muslism aren't going to win. They are out teched, out numbered, and middle eastern troops aren't as well trained as we are.
Willamena
02-02-2005, 00:02
So Lucifer (Satan) is behind the conspiracy? That makes it all the more believable...
Rather, they believe he is behind their motivations. Many people believe in Satan, just as many people believe that God/dess is real. The fact, for me, doesn't detract at all from fascination with the conspiracy.
Pure Science
02-02-2005, 00:06
Rather, they believe he is behind their motivations. Many people believe in Satan, just as many people believe that God/dess is real. The fact, for me, doesn't detract at all from fascination with the conspiracy.

Well, if this conspiracy is real, there's f*** all I can do about it, so I might as well treat what my eyes and ears tell me as truth, rather than worrying myself with such theories.
Niccolo Medici
02-02-2005, 02:14
In a world where most people can't balance their checkbook, let alone run a single country well; I guess a few find it comforting that a small group of all-knowing Satanists are running the whole thing from the shadows.

...Give me a break. If you want well made conspiracy theories, watch Ghost in the Shell; Stand Alone Complex, or GitS SAC: 2nd Gig.
Reaper_2k3
02-02-2005, 02:31
So Lucifer (Satan) is behind the conspiracy? That makes it all the more believable...
it looks like they conspiracy theoried and updated revelations
Vukov Azol
02-02-2005, 02:50
This falls into the 'funny things loopy people say' bin.

The dead giveaway is when they claim ww1 was supposed to be to establish a communist govt in Russia. Marx wasn't even born until May 5, 1818. In 1848 he penned Marxist theory. Since the site says attributes Pike in 1871 with "The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism"
A speculative guess on a 33 year old theory?
Well, look at ww2; 'This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state'
Since the German Workers Party would not be known as 'Nazi's' for another sixty years that was indeed prophetic. NOT!

This is yet another of the conspiracy schitzo websites where they 'discover' unknown 'prophecy' and revelations or promise you the 'real' truth about everything. At best they just read waaaaaaaaaaaay too much into things.

How you warp thisalready warped website into what you call some sort of neo-con agenda is beyond me.

Don't post another thread like this again or you will be 'visited' by our agents...
Dian
02-02-2005, 03:27
if you want to build conspiracy theories around prophecies, Nostradamus and his work "The Centuries" is probably the best source.

According to him, the Muslims will really piss off India somehow and start off a huge conflict. The Indian army will join up with whoever Nostradamus calls "Communists" first and when that huge army reaches the Middle East, Israel will join it and the huge battle that supposedly ensues will end up with the Saudis being nuked... Then for whatever reason, that whole contingent will massacre Europe with the US's help which comes straight through the UK.

Hindus Pwn1ng the world? That's some funny stuff. Well, maybe through the outsourcing of our jobs.....
Willamena
02-02-2005, 04:00
How you warp thisalready warped website into what you call some sort of neo-con agenda is beyond me.
Oh! it's there on the website. I'm not the one who drew a connection between recent events centering around the U.S. government (http://www.threeworldwars.com/911/) and the forwarding of the prophecy.
Kill YOU Dead
02-02-2005, 04:35
Wonder if the guy who wrote this article has his tin foil hat wrapped too tight?

Seriously, the New World Order will rise, but at least I'll have a killer golf swing.

I think I've seen this guy's partner in a parking light near here; he's the one with the sign that says that stuff like: cancer, heart disease, high blood pressure, etc are all caused by the lasers the Secret Service has. Ohhhh Scary!! Good for a laugh though, I'm busting a gut here! :D
Sankaraland
02-02-2005, 05:34
People read into or doctor what others have said to make it "prophetic"; the criticisms are quite just. And, if I may add, this particular conspiracy theory, like many conspiracy theories, has 2 principal components: Jew-hatred, and red-baiting. This is the kind of nonsense scum we get when people can't support their right-wing agendas with honest arguments.