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Black Metal

Neo-Anarchists
31-01-2005, 17:16
I felt like starting a thread for black metal fans cause I'm bored. And I have a question for people.

Do you guys think Cradle of Filth count as black metal anymore? I heard some of the stuff off their latest CD, and to me it sounds like it would be better labelled as prog metal. Their old stuff sort of was black metal, except more commercialized, but this new stuff is odd.
Theologian Theory
31-01-2005, 17:20
http://www.aberrationband.bravehost.com

an english band .....these guys rock! :cool:
Red East
31-01-2005, 17:25
I can't usually stand all that growling in black metal. I'm more into Power/Epic metal (aka fantasy lyrics, technical passages, etc.). But there are a few bands which I can tolerate. Children of Bodom comes to mind. But in my opinion CoB is just Power disguised as Black metal.

I also have Death Cult Armagdon(sp?) by Dimmur Borgir. It's their only album I can listen to.

But the main reason is Black metal is just too slow for me. ;)
Neo-Anarchists
31-01-2005, 17:29
I can't usually stand all that growling in black metal. I'm more into Power/Epic metal (aka fantasy lyrics, technical passages, etc.). But there are a few bands which I can tolerate. Children of Bodom comes to mind. But in my opinion CoB is just Power disguised as Black metal.
Yeah, I like CoB, for exactly that reason. Most people are like "Eww, they aren't black metal!" I'm more like "So? They're awesome power metal then."
I also have Death Cult Armagdon(sp?) by Dimmur Borgir. It's their only album I can listen to.
They're interersting. What with being all symphonic and such, which is the absolute opposite of much of the genre. I like them, even if some people think they're sellouts, I don't.
But the main reason is Black metal is just too slow for me. ;)
Hee.
You know what's funny? Listening to grindcore with the pitch set down on the turntable. Now *that* is slow music.
The Elder Malaclypse
31-01-2005, 19:40
The only good black metal is TRUE black metal! Mayhem! Emporer! Darkthrone!
Neo-Anarchists
31-01-2005, 19:43
The only good black metal is TRUE black metal! Mayhem! Emporer! Darkthrone!
Yay!
Mayhem rock. I forget, were they the band where almost all the members are dead? Hellhammer's original band?
The Elder Malaclypse
31-01-2005, 19:48
Yay!
Mayhem rock. I forget, were they the band where almost all the members are dead? Hellhammer's original band?
Yeah hellhammers still in them. Their old singer dead shot himself (cough) and their guitarist euronomous made a necklace out of his skull. Then count grishnak (varg vikernes- now imprisoned) who was playing bass for them at the time murdered euronomous.
Neo-Anarchists
31-01-2005, 19:50
Yeah hellhammers still in them. Their old singer dead shot himself (cough) and their guitarist euronomous made a necklace out of his skull. Then count grishnak (varg vikernes- now imprisoned) who was playing bass for them at the time murdered euronomous.
Yeah, these guys. More violence went on in that band alone than in the rest of the scene, almost!
:D
Occidio Multus
31-01-2005, 19:54
because i feel that true black metal fans do not want their scene open to lots of involvement- i feel Cof F are not, as they are too commercial. that is eleitist of me, but if anyone thinks of saying something, dont try it. i wont argue with any one much younger than me who will not be honest about how old they really were when they got into metal.
yes, that is elitist. oh fucking well.
i also think Cof F music sucks any how. there is nothing evil about it. it is just for shock value.
Neo-Anarchists
31-01-2005, 19:56
i also think Cof F music sucks any how.
Yeah, it's all watered down an' stuff.
Bolsania
31-01-2005, 19:57
because i feel that true black metal fans do not want their scene open to lots of involvement- i feel Cof F are not, as they are too commercial. that is eleitist of me, but if anyone thinks of saying something, dont try it. i wont argue with any one much younger than me who will not be honest about how old they really were when they got into metal.
yes, that is elitist. oh fucking well.
i also think Cof F music sucks any how. there is nothing evil about it. it is just for shock value.
Yes, they suck shite, you know there are some black metal bands that only allow certain people to buy their records. Those are my favourite
Neo-Anarchists
31-01-2005, 19:58
Yes, they suck shite, you know there are some black metal bands that only allow certain people to buy their records. Those are my favourite
LOL, really?
That's awesome.
Bolsania
31-01-2005, 20:01
LOL, really?
That's awesome.
yeah for real, i also love bands that limit the number of records to 666.
Occidio Multus
31-01-2005, 20:06
yeah for real, i also love bands that limit the number of records to 666.
but that is so overdone, its getting commercialized. but i agree with you.
Neo-Anarchists
31-01-2005, 20:09
but that is so overdone, its getting commercialized. but i agree with you.
We need to find another evil number and start a new movement. Then we can stop as soon as it gets spread about and denounce it.
:D
Dogburg
31-01-2005, 20:10
Yeah, I like CoB, for exactly that reason. Most people are like "Eww, they aren't black metal!" I'm more like "So? They're awesome power metal then."


I also think their music seriously rocks. I honestly can't see why it matters though whether they're death metal, black metal, power metal, black power metal, death power metal, black death metal, who cares? They're just an awesome band.
Bolsania
31-01-2005, 20:11
I also think their music seriously rocks. I honestly can't see why it matters though whether they're death metal, black metal, power metal, black power metal, death power metal, black death metal, who cares? They're just an awesome band.
If by awesome you mean sucking asses through a straw then yes i agree
Neo-Anarchists
31-01-2005, 20:18
Ooh, it seems there's a disagreement!
Let's settle this in true metal fashion:
With lots of needless violence!
I'll go get some Bathory records, somebody go find something spiky to hit people with.
Red East
31-01-2005, 20:24
Ooh, it seems there's a disagreement!
Let's settle this in true metal fashion:
With lots of needless violence!
I'll go get some Bathory records, somebody go find something spiky to hit people with.

Haha, spiky to hit with?

The solution to your problems is I! A die-hard Power/Epic metal fan! All TRUE Power metallians own at least 2 swords/spears/whatever. Some medieval weapon anyways, ;)

And I got just that, :P

EDIT: And oh, that is why most people tend not to pick fights with us. We might pull a sword out of nowhere... ;)
Occidio Multus
31-01-2005, 20:25
Ooh, it seems there's a disagreement!
Let's settle this in true metal fashion:
With lots of needless violence!
I'll go get some Bathory records, somebody go find something spiky to hit people with. yeah!!!!
Sdaeriji
31-01-2005, 20:29
I like death metal. Does that make me almost cool?
Occidio Multus
31-01-2005, 20:29
Haha, spiky to hit with?

The solution to your problems is I! A die-hard Power/Epic metal fan! All TRUE Power metallians own at least 2 swords/spears/whatever. Some medieval weapon anyways, ;)

And I got just that, :P
\m/. and you are good looking to boot . fuck i love metal. :sniper:
any how, true metal heads are glad to so damn cool. we dont waste time with huge arguments on who sucks. i just figure, i still have all my old albums that stand the test of time. Deicide, maiden, slayer, etc. lets just see if people have some of the popular shit in 15 years.
Occidio Multus
31-01-2005, 20:31
I like death metal. Does that make me almost cool?
it is one more thing in the long list
Tolona
31-01-2005, 20:31
www.anus.com is the best metal website, period. It is the embodiment of all that is intelligent in metal music.
Occidio Multus
31-01-2005, 20:40
www.anus.com is the best metal website, period. It is the embodiment of all that is intelligent in metal music. i would like to know how old you are, if you are a neo, and when you discovered that site. because it is not the average person that gets the meaning behind the site.
SuperGroovedom
31-01-2005, 21:06
Am I the only one who thinks black metal is really, really dorky? Don't get me wrong, I think Immortal rock hard, it's just that anyone who thinks juvenile nonsense like only selling your music to those you deem evil enough is cool must be a big geek.

You are not some kind of Pagan warrior prophet who has gone beyond conventional morality. You are an entertainer who wears clown makeup.
Pure Metal
31-01-2005, 21:17
do you lot reckon Testament count as black metal? they're one of my all time favourite bands but their style is more thrash, with a black metal heavy sound imo.
anyone else here like Bolt Thrower? :D (good ol heavy grindcore)
linky (http://www.metalblade.de/BoltThrower.html)

http://www.metalblade.de/Logos/BoltTh_plakat2.jpg
Pure Metal
31-01-2005, 21:33
hehe just remembered about this... http://www.ebaumsworld.com/growl.shtml
Neo-Anarchists
31-01-2005, 21:36
hehe just remembered about this... http://www.ebaumsworld.com/growl.shtml
LOL!

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