Habib on Guantanamo Bay.
OceanDrive
29-01-2005, 17:49
** C E N S U R E D ** original Title was Habib: "the americans Menstruated on my face"
Nsendalen
29-01-2005, 17:50
Haven't I heard about stuff like this before?
o_0
Super-power
29-01-2005, 17:51
Stop posting this mutiple times - you know the M0ds don't like it
OceanDrive
29-01-2005, 17:53
Haven't I heard about stuff like this before?
o_0Yes the Title was mod-Changed..and I cant change it back...
Its like a Book I write...I got to choose the Title, not Katganistan...unless she tells me what rule forces her to tag my thread with the word "Alleged"
OceanDrive
29-01-2005, 17:56
Stop posting this mutiple times - you know the M0ds don't like it1st its not the same post,
2nd The title of the thread what edited without a reason and I cannot change it back
Nsendalen
29-01-2005, 17:56
Yes the Title was mod-Changed..and I cant change it back...
Its like a Book I write...I got to choose the Title, not Katganistan...unless she tells me what rule forces her to tag my thread with the word "Alleged"
Ah, that would be the "there is no freedom of speech and we don't like possible flamebait" rule.
OceanDrive
29-01-2005, 17:57
Ah, that would be the "there is no freedom of speech and we don't like possible flamebait" rule.
what word is Flamebait? "Menstruated"?
I took it from the Sidney Herald Newspaper
OceanDrive
29-01-2005, 18:00
what word is Flamebait? "Menstruated"?
I took it from the Sidney Herald Newspaper
here is the full article:
Prostitute used in Habib torture: lawyer
By Tamara McLean
January 27, 2005
Mamdouh Habib was the victim of atrocities fit for a concentration camp, including being tied to the ground while a prostitute menstruated on him, his lawyer said yesterday.
Interrogators at the US prison camp at Guantanamo Bay had also told the Sydney man they had killed his family and superimposed animal heads on photos of his wife and children, Steven Hopper said.
At an Australia Day forum in Sydney, Mr Hopper gave more details of atrocities allegedly endured by his client while held at the US base in Cuba.
The Federal Government said it was aware of similar allegations of torture made by former British detainees at Guantanamo Bay but it was the first time the Government had heard the claims involving Mr Habib.
Mr Habib is due back in Sydney within a fortnight after the US said it would release him without charge despite holding him for more than three years on suspicion he knew about the September 11 attacks and had trained with al-Qaeda.
Mr Hopper said yesterday: "The Americans used prostitutes as tools in their interrogations. They'd say to detainees 'If you co-operate with us, we'll let you at this woman for the night'. And if they wouldn't agree they'd use them in other ways."
He said detainees held at the base with Mr Habib reported that a prostitute was told to stand over him and menstruate on him.
"[We believe] one of the prostitutes stood over him naked while he was strapped to the floor and menstruated on him," he said.
Mr Hopper said officials at the base also defaced photos of Mr Habib's wife, Maha, and their four children.
"The Americans in their wisdom have taken the heads off the pictures, enlarged them and superimposed them with the heads of animals and then strung them up all over the walls of the interrogation room," he said.
"As they sat there talking to Mamdouh asking him about his terrorist activities, they held up a picture of Maha and said, 'It's a shame we had to kill your family, it's a shame you will never see these people again'."
http://fairuse.1accesshost.com/news2/smh43.html
Anandria
29-01-2005, 18:29
i am an american and i do not find this to be flame bait.....this is REAL news in REAL life.......and i am sorry to be saying this and maybe angering many of my fellow americans, but this news story makes my stomache turn......it is so sick to think that american soldiers.....my own people.....could be demented enough to resort to such tactics when interrogating someone they suspect of being a terrorist.....i am not tryin to stir up a political debate here, but it does make me feel very sad that they would have done that to pictures of this man's family just in an attempt to get him to talk about something they wanted him to say....me personally, if i thought everyone i ever loved n cared about was dead, i'd have nothing left to lose, so why tell anyone anything?....let them kill me too so i can be with my family on the other side or in the next life?.....n about letting a prostitute menstrate on his face....that is just filthy and disgusting and excuse me while i go vomit.....how can anyone who resorts to such tactics still be called human?....they are as much animals as they claim the suspects are for doing such things......we are AGAINST people and nations who use such tactics, yet it seems we ourselves have resorted to being just like them?....disgusting :headbang:
OceanDrive
29-01-2005, 18:48
since my Trhead title was "magically" changed Again without a reason...I shall create a new one with the original Title
Habib: "the Americans MENSTRUATED on my face"
OceanDrive
29-01-2005, 18:51
http://fairuse.1accesshost.com/news2/smh43.html
http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p=habib+menstruated&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t&fl=0&x=wrt
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/01/11/detainee1_wideweb__430x276.jpg
http://theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/05/26/2605habib.jpg
Habib finally reunited with family
January 28, 2005 - 4:49PM
Mamdouh Habib has been reunited with his family after arriving back in Australia, the federal government says.
Attorney-General Philip Ruddock said the former Guantanamo Bay detainee was flown back into Australia on a government-chartered aircraft which arrived in Sydney on Friday afternoon.
"He has been reunited with his family," Mr Ruddock said in a statement.
Mr Ruddock said it appeared unlikely Mr Habib could be charged under anti-terrorism laws.
original post with modified title...
Who said Mods are not politically Bias?
Katganistan
29-01-2005, 19:12
You have complained that we do not give warnings.
The title of your thread has been changed FOUR TIMES.
If you post anything about menstruating on people's faces, or start a FIFTH thread about this, you are going to be warned for spamming.
KNOCK IT OFF.
OceanDrive
29-01-2005, 19:36
You have complained that we do not give warnings.
The title of your thread has been changed FOUR TIMES.
If you post anything about menstruating on people's faces, or start a FIFTH thread about this, you are going to be warned for spamming.
KNOCK IT OFF.
1st I never-ever got an official warning.
2nd The title reflects what the Newpapers says...
the Newspaper says, "one of the prostitutes stood over him naked while he was strapped to the floor and menstruated on him,"
cant you read?, what kind of teacher are you?
OceanDrive
29-01-2005, 19:40
1st I never-ever got an official warning.
I never got an official(or unofficial) warning when you locked my first Thread "for not posting a Link"
I never got one for "posting Titles Katganistan dont like"
OceanDrive
29-01-2005, 19:43
and why did you tag my Trhead with the prefix "Alleged"...
If you dont have a political Bias...90% of War/Bush/Kerry related post should be taged in kind.
OceanDrive
29-01-2005, 19:46
Im getting the silent treatement again...
que sera sera, im signing off.
This place is owned by you anyways.
1st I never-ever got an official warning.
2nd The title reflects what the Newpapers says...
the Newspaper says, "one of the prostitutes stood over him naked while he was strapped to the floor and menstruated on him,"
cant you read?, what kind of teacher are you?
Having the title changed is warning enough. We don't particularly care what the newspapers say, a title like that just isn't appropriate.
You can now consider this your final warning. Post this again, and I will revoke your access to the forum.
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Katganistan
29-01-2005, 19:58
Im getting the silent treatement again...
que sera sera, im signing off.
This place is owned by you anyways.
Cogitation explained to you why the first thread was locked, and why the title was changed. You were invited to repost the thread.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8055348&postcount=3
Cogitation's explanation
You did, and again wrote a title about menstruating in people's faces. It was changed a second time.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8059054&postcount=25
Reason for deleting thread stated, inappropriateness of title stated
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8059064&postcount=26
(Incidentally, I did not change the title of this thread)
Then a third.
Then a fourth.
I note that the second thread, "Alleged Abuses at Camp X-Ray" is open and being posted to. There is no need for duplicate threads.
Whether you agree with it or not, I and several other moderators consider the title to be inappropriate for the forum. It has been changed by at least two and possibly three of us. We have been polite and patient about this, but reposting threads that are locked or have had the titles edited for flamebait is spamming. I am hoping that by spelling this all out here and by telegram you will choose not to continue in this vein.
You stated on the original thread lock that we gave no warning. You've now had five unofficially. Please stop before it becomes an official warning.
Now, as for the "silent treatment" -- you posted at 1:36p, 1:40p, 1:43p, and 1:46p. Isn't ten minutes a LITTLE brief to claim you're getting the silent treatment?
By the way, I can read perfectly well. Might you wish to stop posting inflammatory remarks? So far you've cast aspersions on my teaching, my ability to read, and proclaimed that I am a Bushite.
When Mods Collide: Myrth posted before I did; I defer to his ruling. However, I did want to make certain that all of the communication that has gone back and forth on this matter was openly available to whomever wished to view it.