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Ah, those crazy French! Sacre blu! ; ))

Eutrusca
28-01-2005, 18:22
French police caught in act of skiving, by their own computer

By John Lichfield in Paris

28 January 2005

The Independent

The lot of a French policeman may, or may not, be happy but it is scarcely hectic, a computer survey of working hours shows.

Leaked figures published by Le Figaro yesterday revealed that for every uniformed officer on the beat, or enforcing the law outside a station, at any one time 17 others were doing paperwork, on holiday, taking time off or sick.

Although France has 77,682 people in its uniformed police force (not including the CRS riot police, gendarmerie, detectives and municipal forces), only 4,264 officers are typically available at any one time to police the entire country.

French police officers are supposed to work a 40-hour week, despite the national maximum of 35 hours, the newspaper reported, but according to the calculations of a new police computer program, the average, uniformed officer works a 27-hour week. Of this time, police officers spend, on average, less than nine hours a week outside the station.

The leaking and publication of the figures drew a furious reaction from the director general of the Police Nationale, Michel Gaudin. "These assertions, based on misleading interpretations of partial information obtained by journalists, fly in the face of work done by all officers for the benefit of their fellow citizens, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year," M. Gaudin said.

He accused Le Figaro of "blackening the good name" and denigrating the devotion of officers.

Le Figaro stood by its story. The figures, it pointed out, came from the findings of a new police computer program, called main courante informatisée (computerised incident book) which analyses the deployment of officers.

The analysis appears to confirm allegations by, among others, the former interior minister Nicolas Sarkozy, that police are often deployed for their own convenience rather than the good of the public. The figures show, for example, that officers work a disproportionate amount of time between 9am and 6pm. They are seriously under-deployed between 9pm and 1am, when mostincidents happen.

One unnamed director of public safety said: "[The program] helps us to grasp that, in a given police station, there may be a glut of officers on the reception desk, even though they deal with almost no incidents."

France has more police per head than any other western European country, except Monaco.
Damn Lefties
28-01-2005, 18:26
ha ha...caught out rotten!!
Ice Hockey Players
28-01-2005, 18:30
Note to sef...get a job as a French poice officer.
Failureland
28-01-2005, 18:34
Hey, I feel secure here. And it's supposed to be a slum.
I do reckon that French police officers are mostly lazy, through.
Fass
28-01-2005, 18:50
It's spelled "Sacré bleu".
Whispering Legs
28-01-2005, 18:53
This can't possibly be true. The Europeans, and the French in particular, are so much more moral, ethical, and conscientious than any American, and their countries, especially France, are so much more hard working, intelligent, and upright than the US.

I'm shocked, shocked to find that policemen are sleeping in France!
See u Jimmy
28-01-2005, 19:10
Europeans work hard? who where, I havent seen them and I'm from the Statistically hardest working Euro nation (UK)
Whispering Legs
28-01-2005, 19:13
Europeans work hard? who where, I havent seen them and I'm from the Statistically hardest working Euro nation (UK)

You would never know that from some of the people who post here from the EU.

I wonder if they are all really European policemen who are surfing the web in an Internet cafe while their fellow officers nap nearby.
See u Jimmy
28-01-2005, 19:25
I think the culture is just very different on the EU continent, I worked for a company that paid me for 9-5 but I got told that I wasn't showing commitment when i was working 8:30-7:30. I am at work now, but I think working to 6:30 is OK.
On the continent, with whom I deal a fair bit, they do work 9-5, or in spain 8-12 then 3-7. Overtime is not seen as something you must do.

I think they might have it right.
Whispering Legs
28-01-2005, 19:36
The strangest thing I remember from Germany was the innumerable holidays and time off. That, and the "job sharing". I couldn't figure out how that works.
Deo Garricko
28-01-2005, 19:59
Almost no one works hard in France. With the maximum 35 hour work week, they also have a fair amount of vacations the HAVE to take. And their military obviously doesn't do much.
Sumamba Buwhan
28-01-2005, 20:04
damn I'm moving to Europe

I could use more free time and vacations instead of working my life away for crumbs.
Bunnyducks
28-01-2005, 20:06
I'm glad every time our policemen don't have to work hard.
Ulrichland
28-01-2005, 20:13
The strangest thing I remember from Germany was the innumerable holidays and time off. That, and the "job sharing". I couldn't figure out how that works.

Yup, only South Africa has more national holidays than Germany. AND we have a lot of vacations. 3 weeks a year minimum. AND free weekends. And stores that close weekdays at 2000hrs :)

Lots of free time for R&R - on the other hand we maintain one of the highets productivity scores wordlwide.

Conlcusion: Lots of free time to enjoy = makes you work harder and earn your free time.

Cionclusion: Life is good :)
Whispering Legs
28-01-2005, 20:20
I never saw anyone work hard in Germany, at least not any Germans.
Bunnyducks
28-01-2005, 20:21
Cos they know how to do it ergonomically and right.
Von Witzleben
28-01-2005, 20:31
Yup, only South Africa has more national holidays than Germany. AND we have a lot of vacations. 3 weeks a year minimum. AND free weekends. And stores that close weekdays at 2000hrs :)

Lots of free time for R&R - on the other hand we maintain one of the highets productivity scores wordlwide.

Conlcusion: Lots of free time to enjoy = makes you work harder and earn your free time.

Cionclusion: Life is good :)
Etwa 5 millionen, laut RTL, haben mehr freizeit als ihnen lieb währe.
Jester III
28-01-2005, 20:41
I never saw anyone work hard in Germany, at least not any Germans.
Yeah, we are all lazy and never do anything. :rolleyes: Which is why i get paid 40 hours a week and work 45-50. If there is nothing special coming up, like trade fair season, when it can peak to 70 or 80.
Bunnyducks
28-01-2005, 20:51
As I was trying to say... maybe the Germans know how to do their job... no need to look like you're slaving away...? And saying they work less than some other nations is shooting your own leg. They match anyone in productivity. The others just can't get it done in the same time...?