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Prostitute used in Habib torture: lawyer

January 27, 2005(AlJazeera) Mamdouh Habib was the victim of atrocities fit for a concentration camp, including being tied to the ground while a prostitute menstruated on him, his lawyer said yesterday.

Interrogators at the US prison camp at Guantanamo Bay had also told the Sydney man they had killed his family and superimposed animal heads on photos of his wife and children, Steven Hopper said.

At an Australia Day forum in Sydney, Mr Hopper gave more details of atrocities allegedly endured by his client while held at the US base in Cuba.

The Federal Government said it was aware of similar allegations of torture made by former British detainees at Guantanamo Bay but it was the first time the Government had heard the claims involving Mr Habib.

Mr Habib is due back in Sydney within a fortnight after the US said it would release him without charge despite holding him for more than three years on suspicion he knew about the September 11 attacks and had trained with al-Qaeda.

Mr Hopper said yesterday: "The Americans used prostitutes as tools in their interrogations. They'd say to detainees 'If you co-operate with us, we'll let you at this woman for the night'. And if they wouldn't agree they'd use them in other ways."

He said detainees held at the base with Mr Habib reported that a prostitute was told to stand over him and menstruate on him.

i wouldnt be surprised at all if it was true :(

Sweet merciful christ! I REALLY hope that isn't true, for more reasons than I can even count.

I'm too disgusted to be outraged.

Well that's just lovely...

I am ashamed to breathe the same air as the fuckers who thought that up.

:(

holy mother of god... ew.

lol


some men pay Dommes hundreds of dollars to do that to them.

really though thats disgusting and aweful.

that's rather controversial.







It is now your job to spread it to the American masses. Otherwise I might menstruate on you.

That second part's impossible, but if I could, I would.

According to some reports it was 'fake' menstrual fluid.

But in either case, real or 'fake'...eww.

That's just messed up.

I realize that Moslems consider menstruating women to be unclean and touching them defiles the man, but the rest of you guys? Come on, it's just blood.

I'm not advocating torture or anything, I'm just surprised at how grossed out you are. Is it really that different from having a non-menstruating woman sit on your face?

*says in Napoleon Dynamite tone* GROSS! FRICKIN IDIOTS!

tell me the truth or Ill Menstruate your face!
Stop saying that or I'll blast the boys in your face!

I realize that Moslems consider menstruating women to be unclean and touching them defiles the man, but the rest of you guys? Come on, it's just blood.

Yeah, but it's someone else's blood. In that you don't know where it's been. Plus some women can have really bad periods, with blood gushing out. That's not something I'd like to be covered in.

I realize that Moslems consider menstruating women to be unclean and touching them defiles the man, but the rest of you guys? Come on, it's just blood.

I'm not advocating torture or anything, I'm just surprised at how grossed out you are. Is it really that different from having a non-menstruating woman sit on your face?
I'm not sure if guys go for that sort of thing, but as a woman, that just grosses me out.

its not just blood, its the lining from the uterus and also with the flow comes the unfertilised egg.

(incedently if you think about what a chicken lays, its basically chicken period all wrapped up in a nice shell, think about that next time you hoe into your omelette and bacon :eek: )

its not just blood, its the lining from the uterus and also with the flow comes the unfertilised egg.

(incedently if you think about what a chicken lays, its basically chicken period all wrapped up in a nice shell, think about that next time you hoe into your omelette and bacon :eek: )
Wow, thanks for that thought, I'll never eat an egg again.

its not just blood, its the lining from the uterus and also with the flow comes the unfertilised egg.

(incedently if you think about what a chicken lays, its basically chicken period all wrapped up in a nice shell, think about that next time you hoe into your omelette and bacon :eek: )

Actually no. An egg is an egg - in the above case, an unfertilized ova. As chickens are not mammals they don't menstruate. The only creatures that menstruate are those that gestate. In other words, if you carry the fetus inside, you menstruate. If you lay an egg and allow the fetus to develop in some nice warm spot other than your body, you don't menstruate.

On another note:

Let me guess, you guys are the ones who won't have sex with a menstruating woman.

Guys, menstruation fluids (blood and yes, uterine linings, unfertilized ova, etc) won't hurt you. It washes off. Same as natural fem lube. Why is one gross and the other not?

Wow, thanks for that thought, I'll never eat an egg again.
more for me

Guys, menstruation fluids (blood and yes, uterine linings, unfertilized ova, etc) won't hurt you. It washes off. Same as natural fem lube. Why is one gross and the other not?

So does feces. Doesn't mean I'm okay with being shat upon.

Even the people at the SomethingAwful.com forums couldn't think up shit as sick as that.

So does feces. Doesn't mean I'm okay with being shat upon.

Agreed. Equus, I don't believe many of the dissenters here have issues with having sex with a menstrating woman- it's the matter of a woman menstrating in your face. That's a FAR different feeling then sex.

dp

Actually no. An egg is an egg - in the above case, an unfertilized ova. As chickens are not mammals they don't menstruate. The only creatures that menstruate are those that gestate. In other words, if you carry the fetus inside, you menstruate. If you lay an egg and allow the fetus to develop in some nice warm spot other than your body, you don't menstruate.

On another note:

Let me guess, you guys are the ones who won't have sex with a menstruating woman.

Guys, menstruation fluids (blood and yes, uterine linings, unfertilized ova, etc) won't hurt you. It washes off. Same as natural fem lube. Why is one gross and the other not?

Poo won't really hurt you either, would you want to be covered in it?
I know it's not logical but it just so.....ewwwwww, gross.

EDIT : What's with the Jenna Bush thing, was she the prostitute they used or something?

Guys, menstruation fluids (blood and yes, uterine linings, unfertilized ova, etc) won't hurt you. It washes off. Same as natural fem lube. Why is one gross and the other not?

So does feces. Doesn't mean I'm okay with being shat upon.

Doesn't answer my question. Feces can actually make you sick through germs and bacteria and whatnot. Menstrual fluid cannot (at least, not anymore than a woman's other vaginal fluids could).

I repeat: Why is menstrual fluid gross, when 'natural fem lube' is not?

(I'm beginning to wonder if the old tradition of the defiling nature of 'unclean' women is still being passed down in Western society somehow.)

I repeat: Why is menstrual fluid gross, when 'natural fem lube' is not?

(I'm beginning to wonder if the old tradition of the defiling nature of 'unclean' women is still being passed down in Western society somehow.)Who said Natural Female Lube isn't gross?

Doesn't answer my question. Feces can actually make you sick through germs and bacteria and whatnot. Menstrual fluid cannot (at least, not anymore than a woman's other vaginal fluids could).

I repeat: Why is menstrual fluid gross, when 'natural fem lube' is not?

(I'm beginning to wonder if the old tradition of the defiling nature of 'unclean' women is still being passed down in Western society somehow.)
yea thats it, its a big conspiracy by the patriarchy to oppress women

won't hurt you. It washes off....Why is one gross?why is Crap gross?...why is puke gross?...why is feces gross?...It all washed off.

It wont hurt physicaly...but it can mark your mind.

I would not be surprised if Human and animal excrements have been used for torture...At Gitmo and AbhuGrail...

All people involved shall burn in hell.
Everyone who aproved it.

i wouldnt be surprised at all if it was true :(
I don't believe a single word of that. Sounds like the guy has Johhny Cochrane for a defense attorney. And we all know O.J. didn't do it. Really.

WOW! :rolleyes:

Big Deal.

That's so much worse than sawing someone's head off or pushing a wall on top of them because they're gay.

I don't believe a single word of that. Sounds like the guy has Johhny Cochrane for a defense attorney. And we all know O.J. didn't do it. Really.
youre going to have to tell me who Johnny Cochrane is for that to make any sense. and i guess OJ is OJ Simpson?

Who said Natural Female Lube isn't gross?

So, you guys would never perform cunnilingus?

youre going to have to tell me who Johnny Cochrane is for that to make any sense. and i guess OJ is OJ Simpson?

Johnny Cochrane was OJ Simpson's defense lawyer. "If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!"

Johnny Cochrane was OJ Simpson's defense lawyer. "If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!"
ok, thanks

I don't believe a single word of that.That is your God given rigth.

or if you dont have a religion its your Internet given rigth.

yea thats it, its a big conspiracy by the patriarchy to oppress women

Oh good lord, when did I ever claim that?

Many older societies believed that a woman who was menstruating or just gave birth was unclean. I simply wondered if the reaction here was at all somehow related to that.

So, you guys would never perform cunnilingus?What did that have to do with my post?

Prostitute used in Habib torture: lawyer

January 27, 2005(AlJazeera) Mamdouh Habib was the victim of atrocities fit for a concentration camp, including being tied to the ground while a prostitute menstruated on him, his lawyer said yesterday....
Why should we believe anything these guys say at face value. Where's Jason Blair's corroborating story? Where's Dan Rather to break the real news?

Seriously, all we have is a lawyer going to court. That's a reliable source.

What did that have to do with my post?

Calling women's vaginal fluids (non-menstrual) gross leads me to believe that you wouldn't perform oral sex on a woman. I was asking you to confirm that.

Oh good lord, when did I ever claim that?

Many older societies believed that a woman who was menstruating or just gave birth was unclean. I simply wondered if the reaction here was at all somehow related to that.
i doubt it, its probably just not wanting to screw someone whos "bleeding". i know i wouldnt

... I simply wondered if the reaction here was at all somehow related to that.
The reactions are normal reactions...

for 99% of the population Feses, puke and menstruaton are Gross.

and from your post I can say YOU Equus...you are Gross...

Why should we believe anything these guys say at face value. Where's Jason Blair's corroborating story? Where's Dan Rather to break the real news?

Seriously, all we have is a lawyer going to court. That's a reliable source.Who is Jason Blair?

Calling women's vaginal fluids (non-menstrual) gross leads me to believe that you wouldn't perform oral sex on a woman. I was asking you to confirm that.Oh, no I'd do it.

The reactions are normal reactions...

for 99% of the population Feses, puke and menstruaton are Gross.

and from your post I can say YOU Equus...you are Gross...

Wow. Asking questions and asking people to explain their reactions is no longer curiosity. Apparently its just plain annoying.

Oh, no I'd do it.

Then why did you say they were gross? Or did you just misunderstand my earlier post?

Who is Jason Blair?
Google jason.blair + New.York.Times

Then why did you say they were gross? Or did you just misunderstand my earlier post?
The fact that you think something is gross, doesn't mean it will stop you from doing it. You may not like it, but you'll still do it.

The fact that you think something is gross, doesn't mean it will stop you from doing it. You may not like it, but you'll still do it.

Hey, fair enough. I can accept that.

how did this turn into some weird sex debate?

Any fluids coming from other people's bodies don't really have positive connotations. Vaginal lube, however, is a key part to the sexual process and it feels great. When something is sexually arousing, no matter how gross it logically is, our minds interpret it as a positive.

...and in answer to the question, I'll sit down for the poontang buffet any day of the week :)

Why should we believe anything these guys say at face value. Where's Jason Blair's corroborating story? Where's Dan Rather to break the real news?You dont have to beleive what this Arab POW says...as a matter of fact you can choose to beleive whoever you want...

you can wake up one morning and say: "from now on...I will only beleive what Bush and FOXnews says"

So, ummm, what does this have to do with Jenna Bush?

Any fluids coming from other people's bodies don't really have positive connotations. Vaginal lube, however, is a key part to the sexual process and it feels great. When something is sexually arousing, no matter how gross it logically is, our minds interpret it as a positive.

...and in answer to the question, I'll sit down for the poontang buffet any day of the week :)

Ah ha! At last, an answer - to both my questions!

how did this turn into some weird sex debate?
...Equus sexual deviation :eek:

...Equus sexual deviation :eek:

lol - yes, heterosexual sex practices are a terrible deviation!

lol - yes, heterosexual sex practices are a terrible deviation!

Menstrual fetishes are deviant though.:)

Holy crap that's disgusting! I hope to God it isn't true!

Menstrual fetishes are deviant though.:)

<grin> Asking questions about people's reactions to menstruation in a thread with menstruation in the title is hardly deviant. Unless, of course, we're all deviants for reading it.

Which is entirely possible. ;)

What DOES this have to do with Jenna Bush? Anyone?

I'm confused and disturbed on so many levels, both by what the thread is about and what it developed into...

What DOES this have to do with Jenna Bush? Anyone?Nothing.

What kind of poor girl they used for this crime?
what sane girl would accept to do let herself go in the face of someone?

Either a crackhead girl who had her Brains totally fried with Methadone...or they used a female POW.

According to some reports it was 'fake' menstrual fluid.

But in either case, real or 'fake'...eww.

That's just messed up.what reports?

Ugh. But God is on the USA's side according to TV, so you're allowed to do that, right?

I don't really understand how this whole moral superiority thing works.

Ugh. But God is on the USA's side according to TV, so you're allowed to do that, right?

I don't really understand how this whole moral superiority thing works.

I'll let you in on a secret....


<whisper>Neither does the current American administration</whisper>

I'll let you in on a secret....


<whisper>Neither does the current American administration</whisper>

I figured that. :D

OceanDrive, if you post something this shocking without a link to a source again, you will be officially warned for trolling.

*performs the Lockination*