NationStates Jolt Archive


yeah or nay Public execution in the USA

Vangaardia
27-01-2005, 19:02
I wonder among those who are advocates of the death penalty should there be Public execution? Perhaps we should put it on PAY PER VIEW and charge $9.99 to view it imagine the revenues. OR perhaps this just fills the bloodlust of human nature and they would demand more?

Well what are your views?
Aust
27-01-2005, 19:08
Killing of anydort, and especcially the death penalty is evil, and I balive the Death penalty should be banned anyway, So, NAY
Markreich
27-01-2005, 19:13
Especially for this guy: http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=2864487
"Ross is on death row for strangling four young women and girls in eastern Connecticut in the early 1980s. He also has admitted murdering four other young women in Connecticut and New York. He raped most of the victims."

I wish our Governor Rell would cut the crap and just kill this bastard.

-Markreich

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Sdaeriji
27-01-2005, 19:17
Maybe we could put all Christians in the Coliseum pit and make them fight lions?
Rabola
27-01-2005, 19:18
What kind of sick wierdo would want to watch someone die?
The Wolfkin
27-01-2005, 19:19
perhaps anyone has heard of a "jailbird" saying you dont realize how bad it is in here until you get here. no. we treat our criminals better than anyone else. criminals are nothing more than the annoying zits on the face of society. they cut off the hands of thieves before, and we should do that again as well. no more sitting in jail waiting in the hot tub with guards bringing them martinis. shoot them. i dont care if its public or not, im just tired of paying for them.
Vangaardia
27-01-2005, 19:21
What kind of sick wierdo would want to watch someone die?

There are lots of them. Kind of sad huh?
Dobbs Town
27-01-2005, 19:22
perhaps anyone has heard of a "jailbird" saying you dont realize how bad it is in here until you get here. no. we treat our criminals better than anyone else. criminals are nothing more than the annoying zits on the face of society. they cut off the hands of thieves before, and we should do that again as well. no more sitting in jail waiting in the hot tub with guards bringing them martinis. shoot them. i dont care if its public or not, im just tired of paying for them.

...and so this makes you better than the Taliban?
Latouria
27-01-2005, 19:22
No death penalty period, never mind public executions
Dobbs Town
27-01-2005, 19:22
There are lots of them. Kind of sad huh?

Excruciatingly so.
Drunk commies
27-01-2005, 19:26
Murder is the premeditated killing of another person right? So will somebody please explain to me how killing a guy who's already in custody, and therefore harmless, not murder?
Valdyr
27-01-2005, 19:26
No death penalty period. That's for barbaric countries like Iran and North Korea, and it shames me that America is among a handful of countries like Saudi Arabia and the PRC that still practice it. Make the prisons tougher for worse criminals (although prisons now aren't "nice"; you're full of shit if you think that), but no human has the right to take another human's life. Killing is only sometimes necessary, and even that is arguable. As an infinite punishment for a finite crime, it isn't necessary, and makes the state no better than the violent criminals they prosecute.
Rabola
27-01-2005, 19:26
perhaps anyone has heard of a "jailbird" saying you dont realize how bad it is in here until you get here. no. we treat our criminals better than anyone else. criminals are nothing more than the annoying zits on the face of society. they cut off the hands of thieves before, and we should do that again as well. no more sitting in jail waiting in the hot tub with guards bringing them martinis. shoot them. i dont care if its public or not, im just tired of paying for them.
maby you should get rid of the police force?
Toujours-Rouge
27-01-2005, 19:28
No death penalty period, never mind public executions

Ditto.

And for the people who would actually watch a public execution... i think you guys have issues :/
Pythagosaurus
27-01-2005, 19:30
As much as I'd like to keep the population under control, I have to go with nay.
Dobbs Town
27-01-2005, 19:30
Ditto.

And for the people who would actually watch a public execution... i think you guys have issues :/

Control issues. Prevalent among men, especially young men. Most of them grow out of it, of course. But there's more than a few adults in states of arrested development out there...
Drunk commies
27-01-2005, 19:30
Ditto.

And for the people who would actually watch a public execution... i think you guys have issues :/
What's to watch? Chemicals go in, guy stops breathing. Or switch gets flipped, guy convulses for a while, then stops breathing. It's not like we draw and quarter people.
Dobbs Town
27-01-2005, 19:32
What's to watch? Chemicals go in, guy stops breathing. Or switch gets flipped, guy convulses for a while, then stops breathing. It's not like we draw and quarter people.

Yet.
Valdyr
27-01-2005, 19:32
What's to watch? Chemicals go in, guy stops breathing. Or switch gets flipped, guy convulses for a while, then stops breathing. It's not like we draw and quarter people.

I dunno, I've heard a call for a return to hangings, stonings, and beheadings :rolleyes:
Drunk commies
27-01-2005, 19:34
I dunno, I've heard a call for a return to hangings, stonings, and beheadings :rolleyes:
So let's just ship all those folks off to Saudi where they'll be more at home.
Kwangistar
27-01-2005, 19:36
Death Penalty : Yes
Public Executions : No
Slinao
27-01-2005, 19:40
Public executions for terrorists that have killed innocent people, either with bombs, guns, knives, jets, etc. They should be executed through government run viewing areas and allowed open access to the general public 21 years of age or older, unless in the military, then 17.5 years or older.

They should also be broadcasted to any terrorist cells operating, to know that the USA isn't a weak backboneless government. Though too many of the people that don't want the death penalty or those thinking killing terrorist makes you a terrorist would put a stop to it.

To kill an innocent person is murder, to kill a guilty person is punishment. I've found this is almost every civalization known as well as a good number of religions too.
Drunk commies
27-01-2005, 19:43
Public executions for terrorists that have killed innocent people, either with bombs, guns, knives, jets, etc. They should be executed through government run viewing areas and allowed open access to the general public 21 years of age or older, unless in the military, then 17.5 years or older.

They should also be broadcasted to any terrorist cells operating, to know that the USA isn't a weak backboneless government. Though too many of the people that don't want the death penalty or those thinking killing terrorist makes you a terrorist would put a stop to it.

To kill an innocent person is murder, to kill a guilty person is punishment. I've found this is almost every civalization known as well as a good number of religions too.
I disagree. In the case of terrorism against the USA we should use solitary confinement and frequent, extremely long bouts of sleep deprivation to destroy their minds. Then send videos of them babbling and rolling around in their own feces to the terrorist websites.
Slinao
27-01-2005, 19:44
I dunno, I've heard a call for a return to hangings, stonings, and beheadings :rolleyes:

hangings are still allowed by federal law in the USA, though not practiced anymore.

stonings and beheadings shouldn't be used, mainly because it promotes another person to do the act or to view the blood shed.

Also cause the act of stoning allows the person to be alive during most of it, and its unsure as to how fast a person dies after beheading.

The act of hanging, if done right, is a quick death, where the spinal cord is stretched, and causes the brain to die just as fast as the body.
Slinao
27-01-2005, 19:45
I disagree. In the case of terrorism against the USA we should use solitary confinement and frequent, extremely long bouts of sleep deprivation to destroy their minds. Then send videos of them babbling and rolling around in their own feces to the terrorist websites.

Though I agree in a point to this method, it wouldn't be as effective. It would be turned into propaganda as to what the American way brings to the "true believers".

They seem to understand death, so lets give it to them.
Drunk commies
27-01-2005, 19:47
Though I agree in a point to this method, it wouldn't be as effective. It would be turned into propaganda as to what the American way brings to the "true believers".

They seem to understand death, so lets give it to them.
I'd rather threaten them with something worse than death.
LazyHippies
27-01-2005, 20:03
What would the point of public execution be? History has shown that it does not work as a deterrent, and realistically speaking very few people would pay to see it so it isnt really going to make you any money.
Naturality
27-01-2005, 20:06
What kind of sick wierdo would want to watch someone die?

Faces of Death videos use to be very populer. I remeber my crazy uncle bringing the first one over with his beta. Saw a bit of others later in my life, got a very eery feeling from it so I got up and left.
Prosophia
27-01-2005, 20:23
Frankly, the death penalty should be abolished. Period.

I once wasn't so sure about that... I always thought that it was morally wrong to kill a human (unless in self-defense), but then again, I thought it might be practical - cheaper than life sentences, say.

But then I found out that not only have studies shown that the death penalty doesn't curtail crime, but that it is also a hell of a lot more expensive to give someone the death penalty than to sentence them to life in prison.
Windly Queef
27-01-2005, 21:13
dismissed :)
Red1stang
27-01-2005, 21:25
convicted killers plus death penalty equals no repeat offenders, sounds like a good formula to me
Einzin
27-01-2005, 21:29
No to public executions, but yes to death penalty. If somebody was seriously hurt in public but not killed i wouldnt mind that.
Markreich
27-01-2005, 21:36
Having it on Pay Per View would help defray the court and execution costs.
Even 20 viewers would pay for the last meal...

-Markreich

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Ploor
27-01-2005, 21:42
Public hangings or beheadings before major sporting events and maybe a few burning at the stake for arsonists who kill people during their crimes
Jordaxia
27-01-2005, 21:44
No to both. I'm against the death penalty, so I certainly see no reason for it to be applied in public.
Dunavar
27-01-2005, 21:53
Pro death penalty for repeat or serial offences (murder and rape).

Anti public executions.
Coolsonia
27-01-2005, 21:59
No public executions


Death Penalty only in extreme cases of violence.