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I think the Jesus-worshippers are kinda whacky. Jesus didn't worship himself, he worshipped God. Jesus-worshippers are kinda whacky that way.

What was the name of the religion that spawned from Battlefield Earth?

Oh and Jesus worshipped God but his death was for our sins so humanity wouldn't all burn in hell. Hence Jesus saved humanity according to Christianity's beliefs which is why he is worshipped and praised.

What was the name of the religion that spawned from Battlefield Earth?
It didn't spawn from BFE, it was just created by the same guy who did it.
L. Ron Hubbard or summat like that...

It's called Scientology, and it is completely messed up. but if they hear you say that, they'll sue your pants off.

At this point I think its a close call between Mormons and Scientologists.

Oh that was Scientology? I thought it had some crazy name to it. Oh well!

Christian Science. Very strange religion. They don't allow their members to take any kind of medicine or go to the doctor's office or anything.

Fundamentalism in any religion is always pretty wacky, too.

Mormonism is very odd as well. The whole baptizing the dead thing really tends to throw people off.

Fifth Monarchism;

Quick! Jesus is coming; get rid of all laws in preparation for his arrival!

Satanic Chicken Worship -- ala JD Salinger's last census form (yeah, definitely tabliod shit, I know.)

i would have to say the one where they go to church....and believe in God... just kidding. i think it has to be the one where they drink the strychnine and handle the venemous snakes.

It didn't spawn from BFE, it was just created by the same guy who did it.
L. Ron Hubbard or summat like that...

It's called Scientology, and it is completely messed up. but if they hear you say that, they'll sue your pants off.

L Ron Hubbard was a wacko anyway.

South park did an episode including scientology.

South park did an episode including scientology.
South Park has done an episode about everything. My personal favorite was the Mormon one.

Since cults do not classify, I vote Scientology.




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Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church of Ganja

Falun gong

I used to be Jewish, wow, when you look at it from a atheist/agnostic perspective, those services sure do seem weird now.. though I am glad, I wouldn't have learned how to sing well without it, lots and lots of singing... (in Hebrew)....

scientology is pretty fucking weird.

Scientology also gets my vote...

I think Christianity is the wierdest. Nobody really knows the truth about Christianity and there are some many different gospels of Christianity. Which one is true?

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christianity is definitely weird. my final vote has to go to scientology though.

Christianity because its so vast in the different sects of it. It's also wierd that other religions believe in the same god, but have disagreements over the most important prophet.

I'd have to say Wicca.

Mainly since it's been masquerading as an ancient religion since 1957... that and you get wiccans claiming that the yin-yang was stolen from them, and putting a photo of the guy you like under your pillow is an ancient egyptian love spell.

Not that I have anything against Wicca - but most of its "practitioners" don't do any proper study of what the religion entails.

Blainetology, definitely. David Blaine has a plan for you.

Have you ever seen his magic? It's crazy!

Cargo cult

Cargo cult
:eek:
I can't believe I forgot about that!

Thatcherism. Crazy fucking lunatics. :D

Cargo cult

Yup.

Of course, how much different is that from our modern, materialistic society, waiting for the next wave of goods? Hah, just kidding.

Personally, I would nominate either communism or libertarianism, since they are both really strange religions that share numerous similarities with each other, but barring that...

Definitely Coptic Christianity...

Personally, I would nominate either communism or libertarianism, since they are both really strange religions that share numerous similarities with each other, but barring that...
Hee, I'm liking this. Libertarianism as a religion...
Do we get our own holiday?

Hee, I'm liking this. Libertarianism as a religion...
Do we get our own holiday?

Yes, but the government will not require any of your employers to recognize it ;)

Definitely Coptic Christianity...
Yeah, since they have a history of killing people who try to convert them, and kidnapping members of other religions. No, wait, that is the Muslims who dislike Coptic Christians. My mistake. As far as nominations go, I am going to hide from the mass warning that ought to take place here.

Cargo cult

Never heard of this before, just looked it up. Mad :D

Scientology all the way. Any religion that claims all your problems are caused by ancient alien souls clinging to you, especially when they were blown up by the billions in Earths volcanos, after being transported here in DC-3s, has to be pretty damned strange!

(Sure there might be weirder <note spelling>, but that has to be the strangest of the major cults.)

Oh, and the Cargo cults were a fairly reasonable reaction to the US's extravagance in WWII by people who had no idea.


ormonism gets stranger than just baptising the dead. The whole golden tablets thing is pretty weird.

Wicca is just plain stupid, IMHO, not weird. It's all wrapped up in the New Age BS. And that's just ripping off various forms of trad spiritualism and making it PC. :( :rolleyes:

www.saintgermainfoundation.org

Islam!

Islam!

:rolleyes:

I suspect the Neo-Anarchist's ruling on "flaming" would apply here.

www.saintgermainfoundation.org
These people (http://www.eckankar.org/) would have a lot in common with the above.

:rolleyes:

I suspect the Neo-Anarchist's ruling on "flaming" would apply here.
Maybe. But then, any one of the posts that actually try to point out a "weirdest religion" would qualify. Just because you have Islamic sympathies doesn't mean picking on the Mormons or Christians or fringe groups mentioned above is right.

:rolleyes:

I suspect the Neo-Anarchist's ruling on "flaming" would apply here.
Ruling?
I don't make the rules, just enforce them. Wait, scratch that, I'm not a mod, so I don't enforce them either.

I niether make or enforce the rules, but i guess I sort of follow them or something like that. I think.

Wow. That was mildly pointless.

Falun gong

What's so strange about Falun Gong?

Or do you just take everything a corrupt communist government that's anti-religion says about a religious tradition as fact?

What's so strange about Falun Gong?

Or do you just take everything a corrupt communist government that's anti-religion says about a religious tradition as fact?
I agree with you here, people don't know quite what it is...

http://www.religioustolerance.org/falungong.htm

What's so strange about Falun Gong?

Or do you just take everything a corrupt communist government that's anti-religion says about a religious tradition as fact?

There interesting for the fact that they believe that there will be a 3rd and final turning of the great cosmic of Karma that will remove all oppressors, aka the Chinese communist government. Hence why the Chinese government don't like them. Anyway they are inherently racist, as they don't allow dark skinned people to join.

but back to the topic at hand

I'd agree with most people here that it is a toss up between Moronism and Scientology.

I'm going to have to cast my vote for the system of faith worked out by Rasputin, since I've never met anyone who knew about it, for your benefit, the actual lines from the book that first made me aware of it (an old WW1 overview) "Stated in its crudest terms-which Rasputin was usually careful to avoid doing-the doctrine postulated that to be saved it was first necessary to sin; at least it was essential to be humble in heart, and nothing was more truly humble than a repentant sinner. Therefore, brothers-and sisters-let us humble ourselves by sinning. The influence of the Klysti, an illegal and heretical sect of erotic flagellants that flourished underground in Rasputin's part of Siberia, seems apparent in his teaching," Another way I've seen it described is that faith is never purer than in a repentant sinner, so we should sin, so we can repent. Rasputin himself had a particular favorite way of getting to the repentant sinner stage, which helps explain why so many of the men who helped assassinate him were angry husbands. To the best of my knowledge, the system doesn't have a name.

I agree with you here, people don't know quite what it is...

http://www.religioustolerance.org/falungong.htm

Hmmm.... after reading that (I originally knew nothing about it) I'm not sure I agree with it. It seems to advocate many things I approve of, mainly continuation of buddhist and Taoist teachings (though I'm more of a neo-Taoist myself, in a very loose sense of the word), but it certainly differs in my views as far as homosexuality, transexuality, and sexual promiscuity is concerned. Comparing them to the lowest form of human behaviour is wrong, and kinda ill-informed.

edit: I also disagree with them in regards to multi-racial people. It's just racism, regardless of the minority you say has no place in the world.

Therefore, brothers-and sisters-let us humble ourselves by sinning. The influence of the Klysti, an illegal and heretical sect of erotic flagellants that flourished underground in Rasputin's part of Siberia, seems apparent in his teaching,"That sect was actually called the Khoptsi as opposed to the Scoptsi another Russian cult that included as some of its practices the cutting off of women's breasts and men's testicles as part of "becoming more holy." For some odd reason, none of them are left, and little more is known of the practices...

i think its either mormons or opus dei

That sect was actually called the Khoptsi as opposed to the Scoptsi another Russian cult that included as some of its practices the cutting off of women's breasts and men's testicles as part of "becoming more holy." For some odd reason, none of them are left, and little more is known of the practices...
Did you catch it when I said that was a quote from a book? And how sure are you on the Khopsti part. Myself, I've never heard of it, and a few quick searches online (at this point the only resource available) turnedup nothing but that same word as part of a guy's name, while a similar search for Klysti turned up roughly a half-dozen russian-language pages (Think I caught the word prostitute in one of them). What were your sources on that, because they may be different things.

Did you catch it when I said that was a quote from a book? And how sure are you on the Khopsti part. Myself, I've never heard of it, and a few quick searches online (at this point the only resource available) turnedup nothing but that same word as part of a guy's name, while a similar search for Klysti turned up roughly a half-dozen russian-language pages (Think I caught the word prostitute in one of them). What were your sources on that, because they may be different things.
I was a Russian studies guy in college. My prof always said it "Khoptsi" but maybe there is a discrepancy in orthography. I was pretty sure, but I'd have to look it up. Dostoevsky discusses both those sects at length in "The Idiot."

Ok, I think I was wrong. Serves me right for not looking it up before correcting you. Check out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlysty
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skoptzy

Falun gong

Hey, we're not that wierd. Well, Not all of us anyways.

Ok, I think I was wrong. Serves me right for not looking it up before correcting you. Check out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlysty
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skoptzy
Good to know, I was previously unclear on how it all related to the Orthodox Church (beyond that there was a connection). But hey, thanks for the sources. Reading those pages has reaffirmed one of the most basic truths that I hold close to my heart. Russians are wierd. I mean, some of my best friends have been Russian (two brothers from Russia proper here to go to school, two Ukrainian immigrants, and another immigrant who was actually German, deported from Russia by the communists), and they're wierd. Throughout history, things happen in Russia that just don't work anywhere else. One of the best examples is after Czar Peter III dies, there are four men who led revolts claiming to be Peter, returned from the grave. A guy named Pugachev becomes the fifth. The best description I have ever heard of the guy went like this "Pugachev bore no resemblance to Peter III... But people weren't going to quibble over details with a ghost." His rebellion was by far the most successful, but failed like the others. After he was put down, there was a woman who claimed to be the true heir, and was also dealt with. And then, (and this is the part that shocks me), there was another rebellion by a man who claimed to be Pugachev returned from the grave. In a few years, there are five rebellions by men claiming to be revived Czars, one by woman who claims to be the true heir, and one by a guy who claims to be a rebirth of the guy who claimed to be a revived Czar. I don't know if Rasputin's beliefs will win, but if there is any justice in the world, the winner will be Russian.

My votes go for Scientology and Jehova's Witnesses.

As for a previous post about Wicca, it's really not our fault that Gerald Gardener and Margaret Murray wanted to make the world think our beliefs were passed down by some secret cult for 4000 years. We know they were full of crap, but the rest of the world still seems to be catching up. Check out www.wicca.timerift.net for good info on what traditional Wiccans believe and practice, as well as explanations for what the hell Gardener and Murray were thinking. No pencil-floating BS to be found there at all.

And for the teenage kids watching Charmed and buying "spellbooks" at Barnes and Noble....sigh. We call them Fluffy Bunnies, because they don't usually deserve to be called Wiccans. I'd like to say that at least their hearts are in the right place, but they usually aren't.

Ruling?
I don't make the rules, just enforce them. Wait, scratch that, I'm not a mod, so I don't enforce them either.

I niether make or enforce the rules, but i guess I sort of follow them or something like that. I think.

Wow. That was mildly pointless.

I was thinking of a mod's ruling you were quoting a bit back to the effect that calling someone an idiot when they were actually being stupid wouldn't be considered flaming.

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I disagree.

Jehova's Witnesses.
Hell, last time they came to my door, the only reason they went off faster than usually, were the sick questions I asked them about cannibalism.
They shouldn't be allowed to knock on people's doors. It's incredibly annoying.

There was a guy in Germany, or possibly Austria, in the 1920s who, after inheriting a dairy, became convinced that cream cheese was the true path to salvation. Apparently he even managed to convince his wife to cut her arm off and smear the stump in cream cheese, which would make it grow back. After she died of septaecemia, he had her coffin filled with cream cheese to enable her to rise from the dead. The resultant smell was the probable cause of this short-lived belief-system's demise. I have no evidence for all this: it's a dim recollection of something I heard on the radio 15 years ago. It is possible that I dreamed it.

However, there is evidence for another candidate: the worship of Prince Philip, aka the Duke of Edinburgh, aka Phil the Greek. He is regarded as a god on the island of Tanna, which he visited once in 1974. Not so much a cargo cult as a prick-in-a-silly-hat cult. See http://www.southpacific.org/text/finding_vanuatu.html for more details.

Jehovah's Witnesses aren't THAT weird. The biggest thing they differ from other forms of Christianity is in what happens after Jesus comes back. They think the good folks will stay on the earth which has been restored back to paradise. I wish they wouldn't go door to door though. That's stupid and annoying.