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American Fascist Party

Fascist Emerica
26-01-2005, 18:48
If there is anyone here that lives in the United States and is a Fascist (please, no neo-Nazi's) then here is your political party! the American Fascist Party. Here is the link to there home page and is also where you can sign up to join.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fascistpartyofamerica/

I will reply to this message in a minute with another link that describes what the AFP stands for and believes in. Anyone who joins will also get this sent to them via email.
Fascist Emerica
26-01-2005, 18:50
Here is the link to what the AFP stands for. Again anyone who joins will see this again via email.

http://e1.email.myway.com/viewer.php/?m=0&mid=432&p=2&ArdSI=af740764258c86dbdb35025a2166f609

To see the imgage in the link move your mouse over the image. It should then bring up a little pop up kind of thing that will let you zoom in to see it.
Armed Bookworms
26-01-2005, 19:08
Meh, no worse than the CPUSA. No worse, but no better either.
Fascist Emerica
26-01-2005, 19:12
I want people to understand that this is a true Fascist movement! We are NOT rascist. We are NOT neo-Nazi's. We do NOT believe in having a total dictatorship. We did have a Presidential canidate for 2004. He didnt make it on any ballots but could have been a write in. This party started off as a small discussion group, but then evolved into a true and recognized party. The United States of America does recognize this party. It is a serious and ever growing political party. Please do not mistake us a rascist neo-Nazi's. We dont not believe in that. Anyone, no matter what race or religion may join!
Drunk commies
26-01-2005, 19:14
Because America needs more blind obedience to orders from above and less critical thinking and free speech.
Hogsweat
26-01-2005, 19:16
I can't see the bottom link.. what's this party about, could you explain in brief?
Fascist Emerica
26-01-2005, 19:23
To see the bottom link move your mouse over the image. It should then bring up a little pop up kind of thing that will let you zoom in to see it.
Jester III
26-01-2005, 19:24
"What started out as just another “discussion group” is rapidly becoming a serious political party, and a force to be reckoned with."
"Members: 97"
Muahaha! A truly awe-inspiring force that is...
Dostanuot Loj
26-01-2005, 19:24
Why do you use the term "Comrade" when comrade is more commonly associated with communism.. and last time I checked, communists and Fascists hated eachother.

PS: I'd join, if I were A) American, or B) a believer in all of Fascist ideals.. as it goes, I only believe alot.
Fascist Emerica
26-01-2005, 19:27
Ah-Ha! thats where you are wrong. The term "Comrade" is also used by Fascists. Upon joining the party you will also get an email about the use of the term comrade. Basically it means being closer than just a friend, more of a brother/sister kind of thing. We see it as being Comrades in Arms. We in the party are all comrades. Anyone outside the party is not.
Fascist Emerica
26-01-2005, 19:29
Also, I will only be on here for a few more minutes. Anyone who wishes to directly contact me may do so via telegram to my NationStatets nation. Telegram Fascist Emerica. Thanks.
Ciryar
26-01-2005, 19:37
I guess the whole being shot and then hung upside down with your mouth stuffed full of sh*t thing that Mussolini got didn't teach them the first time. Some people never learn.
Fascist Emerica
26-01-2005, 19:41
"I guess the whole being shot and then hung upside down with your mouth stuffed full of sh*t thing that Mussolini got didn't teach them the first time. Some people never learn."

Did you not listen to what I said earlier? We are not a totalitarian rascist dictatorship like Mussolini and Hitler. We do NOT believe in rascism and we believe that what Hitler and Mussolini did during WWII was in fact WRONG! Read what I have said in earlier statements. This party is open to anyone! NO matter what your race or skin color or religion!!!
Conceptualists
26-01-2005, 19:41
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fascistpartyofamerica/


Somhow I cannot take such a political force serious if they cannot even be bothered to get there own domain name.
Thucidide
26-01-2005, 19:49
Also, I will only be on here for a few more minutes. Anyone who wishes to directly contact me may do so via telegram to my NationStatets nation. Telegram Fascist Emerica. Thanks.

Why even bother creating a party what will it accomplish? don't you have better things to do with your time?
St Stephen n Critters
26-01-2005, 19:51
Because America needs more blind obedience to orders from above and less critical thinking and free speech.

Indeed. Here's a picture of their great leader, SETH TYRSSEN.

http://www.hometown.aol.com/americanfascist/images/seth1.jpg

Doesn't he look just the part?
Fascist Emerica
26-01-2005, 19:51
They do have there own domain name. Its just the did not create the site thereselves and the creator left long ago. To see it, its located at

http://hometown.aol.com/americanfascist/afphome.html

This party is recognized by the U.S. Govt. as a real life political party.

I must be leaving now. Any more questions or wanted info should be teleramed to me at Fascist Emerica. Please include the words American Fascist Party in the telegram so I know what it is about. Thanks.
Ciryar
26-01-2005, 19:55
Allow me to refresh your memory:

Fascism n. 1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

You either
a)aren't real fascists or
b)you aren't serious or
c)you are lying intentionally or
d) you are about 13 and you think the word sounds cool, and who knows, maybe it will get more hits on your site, maybe you can get advertising, and maybe that will pay for your PS2.
Ciryar
26-01-2005, 19:56
Indeed. Here's a picture of their great leader, SETH TYRSSEN.

http://www.hometown.aol.com/americanfascist/images/seth1.jpg

Doesn't he look just the part?
Holy crap. You can't parody that guy, he is a straight-up cartoon character.
Thucidide
26-01-2005, 19:57
"I guess the whole being shot and then hung upside down with your mouth stuffed full of sh*t thing that Mussolini got didn't teach them the first time. Some people never learn."

Did you not listen to what I said earlier? We are not a totalitarian rascist dictatorship like Mussolini and Hitler. We do NOT believe in rascism and we believe that what Hitler and Mussolini did during WWII was in fact WRONG! Read what I have said in earlier statements. This party is open to anyone! NO matter what your race or skin color or religion!!!

Ok fair enough, explain what you hope to accomplish by having this so called party. Do you intend to use it politically? please explain I would like to know what you mean to do.
Vonners
26-01-2005, 19:57
Indeed. Here's a picture of their great leader, SETH TYRSSEN.

http://www.hometown.aol.com/americanfascist/images/seth1.jpg

Doesn't he look just the part?

BWWWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

Someones been watching FAR too much Monty Python!!! (http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Sounds/aiff/violence.aiff)
Thucidide
26-01-2005, 19:59
What a fucking idiot I say we spam him
Ciryar
26-01-2005, 20:07
What a fucking idiot I say we spam him
Good idea. How? Should we start a thread asking people to TG him with the longest text file they can dig up?
Thucidide
26-01-2005, 20:13
yeah that souds good to me, I honestly think he's some young kid who is trying to act cool
Thucidide
26-01-2005, 20:14
how do you suppose we go about spamming him?
Nadkor
26-01-2005, 20:48
fascist Emerica....like the skate company?
Goed Twee
26-01-2005, 20:57
They do have there own domain name. Its just the did not create the site thereselves and the creator left long ago. To see it, its located at

http://hometown.aol.com/americanfascist/afphome.html


That seriously makes my day.
Right-Wing America
26-01-2005, 21:11
Speaking as a real Fascist I simply dont think your party is going to get anywhere with its current ideals. If you dont believe in the preservation and love of the Aryan race then why in gods name arent you content with the current American government? I mean its exactly what you want isnt it? Its a multicultral "soft" fascist government that allows the freedom of religon. With your ideals you might as well join the Republican party and forget Fascism alltogether. Also by insulting the Neo-Nazis, National Socialists, and Fascists with racialist ideals your removing what could have been your biggest source of support. And maybe the reason why the American government recognizes your party is because it knows that its not going to get anywhere. If a Fascist, National Socialist, or Neo-Nazi movement truly began gaining significant power then the American government(which is controlled by multicultralists and zionists) would do whatever it could to suppress your party rather then recognize it and allow it to grow.
Vonners
26-01-2005, 23:09
Speaking as a real Fascist I simply dont think your party is going to get anywhere with its current ideals. If you dont believe in the preservation and love of the Aryan race then why in gods name arent you content with the current American government? I mean its exactly what you want isnt it? Its a multicultral "soft" fascist government that allows the freedom of religon. With your ideals you might as well join the Republican party and forget Fascism alltogether. Also by insulting the Neo-Nazis, National Socialists, and Fascists with racialist ideals your removing what could have been your biggest source of support. And maybe the reason why the American government recognizes your party is because it knows that its not going to get anywhere. If a Fascist, National Socialist, or Neo-Nazi movement truly began gaining significant power then the American government(which is controlled by multicultralists and zionists) would do whatever it could to suppress your party rather then recognize it and allow it to grow.

LOL I knew there had to be one in the wood work.

You do realise that people like you have no chance of gaining widespread support despite your best efforts. Luckily most people understand that government based on hatred and elitism just does not work.
Selivaria
26-01-2005, 23:12
LOL I knew there had to be one in the wood work.

You do realise that people like you have no chance of gaining widespread support despite your best efforts. Luckily most people understand that government based on hatred and elitism just does not work.

I wouldn't say that. It can work very well, it's just really horrible.
Right-Wing America
26-01-2005, 23:27
LOL I knew there had to be one in the wood work.

You do realise that people like you have no chance of gaining widespread support despite your best efforts. Luckily most people understand that government based on hatred and elitism just does not work.

That all depends on the quality of life within a nation. Sure right now with America's unemployment rate at only about 5-6% there is no chance of a Fascist party coming to power(or any 3rd political party for that matter) however if America keeps up at the rate its going I wouldnt be surprised if there was a large Fascist movement in the near future. Remember anything is possible...
Vonners
26-01-2005, 23:28
I wouldn't say that. It can work very well, it's just really horrible.

I was being tongue in cheek...:)
Dogburg
26-01-2005, 23:29
I thought one of the tenets of Fascism was the destruction of all races except the aryan race, and killing off religious minorities like Jews and Muslims.

And yet this Fascist party condemn racism and religious discrimination? What do they stand for if they remove the central tenet of their ideology?

It's like saying "I'm a libertarian who believes in total state control of economy and society". It makes no sense.
Vonners
26-01-2005, 23:31
That all depends on the quality of life within a nation. Sure right now with America's unemployment rate at only about 5-6% there is no chance of a Fascist party coming to power(or any 3rd political party for that matter) however if America keeps up at the rate its going I wouldnt be surprised if there was a large Fascist movement in the near future. Remember anything is possible...

ummmm I am saddened that no one had yet seen the irony....
Right-Wing America
26-01-2005, 23:32
I thought one of the tenets of Fascism was the destruction of all races except the aryan race, and killing off religious minorities like Jews and Muslims.

And yet this Fascist party condemn racism and religious discrimination? What do they stand for if they remove the central tenet of their ideology?

It's like saying "I'm a libertarian who believes in total state control of economy and society". It makes no sense.

Fascism never had any hostillity towards Islam. During WWII there were a large number of Muslim Waffen SS units fighting for the Third Reich.
Selivaria
26-01-2005, 23:33
I thought one of the tenets of Fascism was the destruction of all races except the aryan race, and killing off religious minorities like Jews and Muslims.

And yet this Fascist party condemn racism and religious discrimination? What do they stand for if they remove the central tenet of their ideology?

It's like saying "I'm a libertarian who believes in total state control of economy and society". It makes no sense.

Well, racism isn't technically required for facism, it's just what they've generally gone with.
Alomogordo
26-01-2005, 23:38
Somhow I cannot take such a political force serious if they cannot even be bothered to get there own domain name.
My thinking exactly. A "Yahoo!" group, wow. You must REALLY be strapped for cash.
Alomogordo
26-01-2005, 23:39
Fascism never had any hostillity towards Islam. During WWII there were a large number of Muslim Waffen SS units fighting for the Third Reich.
In fact, the Mufti of Jerusalem told Hitler to keep up the good work in killing Jews and actually told him that he wasn't doing enough.
Vonners
26-01-2005, 23:47
And given that today is the comemoration of the Holocaust its pretty vile that the fascists are posting this garbage
Right-Wing America
26-01-2005, 23:59
And given that today is the comemoration of the Holocaust its pretty vile that the fascists are posting this garbage

The future generations are caring less and less about the Holocaust. In about 15-30 years most non-jewish people are going to pretty much be unaffected by it.
Vonners
27-01-2005, 00:03
Rubbish
Eichen
27-01-2005, 01:16
Say it with me people: Whackjob.
Neo-Anarchists
27-01-2005, 01:19
Say it with me people: Borderline flamebait

Many of the posts in this thread are. Disagree with the guy all you like, but please refrain from the flaming and baiting.

The threats to spam him weren't too nice either.
Eichen
27-01-2005, 01:35
Say it with me people: Borderline flamebait

Many of the posts in this thread are. Disagree with the guy all you like, but please refrain from the flaming and baiting.

The threats to spam him weren't too nice either.
Neo, you have some interesting things to say at times, but lately you've been spending too much time being the self-appointed CyberNanny for NS.
Nadkor
27-01-2005, 01:37
I thought one of the tenets of Fascism was the destruction of all races except the aryan race, and killing off religious minorities like Jews and Muslims.

thats Nazism

Fascism was originially very (well...) different
The Pyrenees
27-01-2005, 01:42
If there is anyone here that lives in the United States and is a Fascist (please, no neo-Nazi's)
.
No neo-nazis? That's discrimination, how dare you, you fascist.... oh,right.
Ciryar
27-01-2005, 01:44
During WWII there were a large number of Muslim Waffen SS units fighting for the Third Reich.Whoa! Do you have proof of this? Preferably a book, or a reputable website?
Clonetopia
27-01-2005, 01:53
As far as I know, Fascism wasn't original racist, it became racist due to the alliance between Mussolini and Hitler.

Not that it matters. Mussolini and Hitler are dead and so are Fascism and Nazism (or close enough anyway).
Letila
27-01-2005, 02:07
Fascism doesn't necessarily require racism, though it often is racist. What really defines fascism is the emphasis on the nation and collective. This was originally intended to be the state and nation, though in the case of nazism, the emphasis is on race instead.

Nonetheless, fascism suffers from all the problems other government systems suffer from and plenty more unique to it. The track record of fascist régimes is rather poor and the philosophical justifications for it are weak at best.
Right-Wing America
27-01-2005, 02:21
Whoa! Do you have proof of this? Preferably a book, or a reputable website?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764301349/ref=ase_srpskamrezaA/104-9164579-3381508?v=glance&s=books

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/hanjar.html

http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/yugoslavia_collaboration.htm

http://emperor.vwh.net/bosnia/svijet.htm
Ciryar
27-01-2005, 03:17
Fascism never had any hostillity towards Islam. During WWII there were a large number of Muslim Waffen SS units fighting for the Third Reich.This isn't entirely true. There was only one unit, and it was created only after manpower shortages forced the Nazis to look beyond Germany for their troops. Hitler apparently opposed the idea all along, and only reluctantly approved it. It wasn't that great of a unit either, it appears, and they had some problems with mutiny.
Buechoria
27-01-2005, 03:21
*Cough* Bund *Cough*
Neo-Anarchists
27-01-2005, 03:28
*Cough* Bund *Cough*
*cough* What's that mean? *cough*
Buechoria
27-01-2005, 03:31
The Bund was the American Nazi Party during the thirties and fourties. It was led by an overweight moron who claimed that George Washington was the, 'first fascist'.

Even Hitler hated the group as he found them as an embarresment to Germany and the Nazi party.
Neo-Anarchists
27-01-2005, 03:34
The Bund was the American Nazi Party during the thirties and fourties. It was led by an overweight moron who claimed that George Washington was the, 'first fascist'.

Even Hitler hated the group as he found them as an embarresment to Germany and the Nazi party.
Huh.
Odd. Ol' George never seemed fascist to me.

Hooray for overweight morons that don't read history books!
Myrmidonisia
27-01-2005, 03:54
So which part of this disgusting definition fits your movement?

1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Monkeypimp
27-01-2005, 04:43
I would join if A: I was American and B: Facism wasn't utterly wank.
Vonners
27-01-2005, 14:58
This isn't entirely true. There was only one unit, and it was created only after manpower shortages forced the Nazis to look beyond Germany for their troops. Hitler apparently opposed the idea all along, and only reluctantly approved it. It wasn't that great of a unit either, it appears, and they had some problems with mutiny.

I recall they had the same issue with deserters from the Indian Army and the British FrieKorps....