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How?

As a stern father figure. Cross me and you'll pay, but have good manners and play nice and you'll receive a cookie.

As one leader with full power that has the best intentions of my people and nation at heart.

I would:

1)Get us out of NATO, NAFTA, the UN, the WTO, and every other entangling alliance
2)Bar all CFR, PNAC, TC, IPS, etc. members from holding any jobs in the federal government
3)Get rid of both social and corporate welfare (but states and local governments could have social welfare if they wanted to)
4)Abolish minimum wage laws, privatize social security, do away with Medicare and Medicaid, and stamp out every other socialistic aspect of the federal government
5)Repeal all 'gun-control' laws
6)Leave gay marriage, abortion, etc. to the states
7)Return all illegal immigrants to their respective countries, but legal ones could stay
8)Drastically strengthen our borders
9)Do away with income taxation, the IRS, and the Federal Reserve
10)Do away with the Departments of Education, the Interior, Energy, Housing and Urban Development, Transportation, Agriculture, etc. (leaving only the Departments of State, Treasury, and Justice)
11)Break up the Department of Defense into the Departments of War, the Navy, and the Air Force

(to be continued)

the same as i rule my NS nation...all civil and political rights would be outlawed and large corporations usually have more rights than humans....if they give some "finacial support" to a certain insane dictator...http://graphics.gaiaonline.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

People of MY Great Nation.. Worship me!! Or suffer eating tofu for the next 10 years!

-snip-
Same here, except I'd get the government out of marriage altogether instead of continuing the ridiculously endless gay marriage debate

With the best form of government yet tried on earth - that of scandinavia.

Same way I'm ruling the Plutonian Empire

As leader of my country, the first act I would take would be to resign.

I'm not fit to be a real leader, but a fictional one is fine.

kick out all foreigners. everyone speaks american. no trucks, suvs or big vans. no skateboarding. Criminals are hung upside-down untill they pass out from the blood rushing to his brain.

More control over the borders, a no-nonsense foreign policy, death penalty has THE express lane and its publicized for intimidation purposes. We all know the death penalty has 0 repeat offenders.

I would:

8)Drastically strengthen our borders

(to be continued)

You'd need to.

Me, if I were the absolute ruler I'd reinstitute Droit de Seigneur (the right to have sex with any woman before her husband). Anything else I would let my more crazy friendsd handle.

Get the hell out of Iraq...withdraw all troops to within U.S. (my RL nation of birth) territory. Get rid of our unnecessary, expensive overseas bases and chop the defense budget accordingly. Tighten up immigration a lot. Inspect every cargo container that comes here with some of the money saved from taking away Halliburton's Iraq contracts.

Leave marriage up to the churches. Pass an amendment that marriage is not the business of the feds or the states, but the domain of individuals. Hell, I wouldn't even rubber stamp straight marriages, cause it's none of the government's business.

Repeal most of Bush's tax cuts, and repay the debt. Once the debt is paid off, then I'd take the 1/6th of the federal budget that currently goes to pay interest on it and use it for national healthcare (voluntary participation though, like in Australia) and actually make the EPA do something.

Means-test farm subsidies. If you plow teh back forty on the family farm, you can keep your subsidies. If you're ADM, screw you, because I don't think corporations are people. People aren't required to be chartered by a state to exist.

Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, to drive Sean Hannity crazy :D

Close offshore tax loopholes.

Social Security: remove the cap on taxable wages, but cap benefits so the ultrarich don't get payouts of a few hundred thousand a year.

Any ill effects of re-regulating the economy would be effectively negated by removing the drag of an outstanding debt that runs 70% of our GDP.

I'd have tons of sex in the White House (and in Air Force One too - oh yeah baby), confiscate massive amounts of drugs from the populace for my own use and of course, play drinking games involving the Big Red Button.

Non-Aryans would be publically hung.
Only Aryans and Aryan-languages would be welcomed.
Foreign Policy: You dont bother me, I dont drop atomic bombs on you.

a.I'd attack France. I mean, what are they going to do, defend themselves?
b. Wipe North Korea off the planet with a few nukes as an example to the rest of the world.
c. Make abortion illegal
d. Make Homosexuality illegal
e. Dig a big canal between US and Mexico and fill it full of sharks and pirannas.
f. Make illegal imigrants punishable by death
g. Cut off all trade with socialist countries and even the ones who claim their not.
h. take over Canada and make it against the law to speak anything but English.
I. Make groups such as the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, NAACP, NOW, and AARP illegal under the laws of treason and sedation
J. Do away with Welfare
K. Give the Lefties their own little satalite country in Montanta and make it illegal to visit or leave.

I would make a nation of mercenaries, but thats me

a.I'd attack France. I mean, what are they going to do, defend themselves?
b. Wipe North Korea off the planet with a few nukes as an example to the rest of the world.
c. Make abortion illegal
d. Make Homosexuality illegal
e. Dig a big canal between US and Mexico and fill it full of sharks and pirannas.
f. Make illegal imigrants punishable by death
g. Cut off all trade with socialist countries and even the ones who claim their not.
h. take over Canada and make it against the law to speak anything but English.

A) I think you'd have a lot more fun killing all the homosexuals
B) The spics would just steal your sharks and piranhas. Just put some sniper towers along the border and you're done. Voila!

a.I'd attack France. I mean, what are they going to do, defend themselves?
b. Wipe North Korea off the planet with a few nukes as an example to the rest of the world.
c. Make abortion illegal
d. Make Homosexuality illegal
e. Dig a big canal between US and Mexico and fill it full of sharks and pirannas.
f. Make illegal imigrants punishable by death
g. Cut off all trade with socialist countries and even the ones who claim their not.
h. take over Canada and make it against the law to speak anything but English.
I. Make groups such as the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, NAACP, NOW, and AARP illegal under the laws of treason and sedation
J. Do away with Welfare
K. Give the Lefties their own little satalite country in Montanta and make it illegal to visit or leave.

How refreshing to see the Right's agenda laid out so honestly - unprovoked war, elimination of civil liberties, brutal repression of ideological enemies, xenophobia, prejudice and discrimination.

Non-Aryans would be publically hung.
Only Aryans and Aryan-languages would be welcomed.
Foreign Policy: You dont bother me, I dont drop atomic bombs on you.
Does that mean that in your country, I would be hung just like that because of my skin being a nice cinnamon color instead of cream or ivory? Or the fact that my hair is black and curly and not blond and straight? No, seriously. I'm interested in your answer.

Anyway, I would run the US by doing this: raising taxes for the rich, and keeping it low for the poor. Pulling out of Iraq would not be in my best interests, but it would be run more carefully, rather than the haphazard job that's been done earlier.

1. Enact far-reaching environmental laws
2. Expand Medicare, so that anyone who wanted would be able to have it
3. Push income tax for the super-rich back up to 1945 levels
4. Close tax loopholes
5. Get out of Iraq
6. Crack down on illegal immigration (really, we don't need more people)
7. Criticize oppressive governments, such as China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Russia, etc.
8. Punish corporations that move facilities overseas or mistreat their employees, possibly reward ones that keep jobs in America and treat their employees well.
9. Get the government out of marriage all together. Any two people could get a "civil union." "Marriage," as it is somewhat religious in nature, would be up to the churches.
10. Remove the GGR
11. Pay off the debt to foreign nations.
12. Model my government after that of say, Sweden.

a.I'd attack France. I mean, what are they going to do, defend themselves?

Increasing spending to cover war costs... any foreign operation costs, even against France.

c. Make abortion illegal

Increasing spending to cover all the law cases and law enforcement...

d. Make Homosexuality illegal

Increasing spending just to get the FBI or whoever to issue "Gaydar" units to all its field operations... and increase field operations by a hundredfold too.

e. Dig a big canal between US and Mexico and fill it full of sharks and pirannas.

Increasing spending to pay for all that. Even if using slave labor you have to feed the slaves too. And what about sharks and pirannas? They're a fragile protected ecosystem. They need yearly funding to keep alive, and after a while the occasional immigrant won't be enough. They'll eat each other and be too few to be effective and you'll have to buy MORE sharks.

g. Cut off all trade with socialist countries and even the ones who claim their not.

No more trade, profits and revenue nationwide drops, depression sets in.

h. take over Canada and make it against the law to speak anything but English.

Cost of colonizing Canada is far too prohibitive to be profitable or desirable, as the Brits can tell you.

I. Make groups such as the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, NAACP, NOW, and AARP illegal under the laws of treason and sedation

Again with law enforcement taxation..

J. Do away with Welfare

Hmm some money saved...


K. Give the Lefties their own little satalite country in Montanta and make it illegal to visit or leave.

Montana is worth more than we spend on welfare, therefore making up for your one savings.

I take it you're not, like, capitalistic?

Does that mean that in your country, I would be hung just like that because of my skin being a nice cinnamon color instead of cream or ivory? Or the fact that my hair is black and curly and not blond and straight? No, seriously. I'm interested in your answer.

The words White and Aryan do not specifically refer to the color of one's skin. White is a heritage, not a skin colour (unless you're albino lol).
I would only hang you if you werent of Aryan descent, and only because you'd inevitably pose a risk to my country.
So may I ask, what are you?

As an absolute dictator with an eye to world conquest. The USA has the largest nuclear arsenal on earth. Why not use it?

The words White and Aryan do not specifically refer to the color of one's skin. White is a heritage, not a skin colour (unless you're albino lol).
I would only hang you if you werent of Aryan descent, and only because you'd inevitably pose a risk to my country.
So may I ask, what are you?
Austrian descent and American black descent. Austrian on my mom's side and black on my dad's side. And proud of it.

I take it you're not, like, capitalistic?
Damn - he'll have to cut off trade with himself. :D

I'd run it the exact same way I run Insequa - Strong/Basket Case economy (ie, it works but it shouldn't - 100% income tax, but everyone's living like kings).

Non-Aryans would be publically hung.
Only Aryans and Aryan-languages would be welcomed.
Foreign Policy: You dont bother me, I dont drop atomic bombs on you.

a.I'd attack France. I mean, what are they going to do, defend themselves?
b. Wipe North Korea off the planet with a few nukes as an example to the rest of the world.
c. Make abortion illegal
d. Make Homosexuality illegal
e. Dig a big canal between US and Mexico and fill it full of sharks and pirannas.
f. Make illegal imigrants punishable by death
g. Cut off all trade with socialist countries and even the ones who claim their not.
h. take over Canada and make it against the law to speak anything but English.
I. Make groups such as the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, NAACP, NOW, and AARP illegal under the laws of treason and sedation
J. Do away with Welfare
K. Give the Lefties their own little satalite country in Montanta and make it illegal to visit or leave.

I'd fight beliefs like these.

I'd fight beliefs like these.
With an ICBM if necessary, too. :p

These two want mindless slaves to do their every bidding. Unfortunately, some people don't want to do their bidding, so they revolt, and these guys fear that revolt (because it would kill them), and fear losing their power (even though they will lose it once the people revolt or they die). So these guys order the Gestapo or some other Secret Police to kill you. And me. and everyone who doesn't do what they say.

Delusions of grandeur is a bitch, ain't it?

I. Make groups such as the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, NAACP, NOW, and AARP illegal under the laws of treason and sedation
Laws of sedation?
:D

With an ICBM if necessary, too. :p

Certainly not! With a hug and a smile works best on people like that. :D

I'd fight beliefs like these.
To the death, if necessary.

Laws of sedation?
:D
I wanna be sedated! :D

I wanna be sedated! :D
"Twenty-twenty-twenty-four hours to go
I wanna be sedated
Nothing to do, no where to go, oh
I wanna be sedated

Just get me to the airport, put me on a plane
Hurry hurry hurry, before I go insane
I can't control my fingers, I can't control my brain
Oh no oh oh oh oh"
:D

"Twenty-twenty-twenty-four hours to go
I wanna be sedated
Nothing to do, no where to go, oh
I wanna be sedated

Just get me to the airport, put me on a plane
Hurry hurry hurry, before I go insane
I can't control my fingers, I can't control my brain
Oh no oh oh oh oh"
:D
damn I love that song

As one leader with full power that has the best intentions of my people and nation at heart.

But of course id be calle a Tyrant and Deposed by some other tyrant except ill get away and with the use of Farmers in the east of the country stage an uprising and after those friendly farmers i would never trust anyone again.

Yeah Ban free trade- risks workers jobs.

"Twenty-twenty-twenty-four hours to go
I wanna be sedated
Nothing to do, no where to go, oh
I wanna be sedated

Just get me to the airport, put me on a plane
Hurry hurry hurry, before I go insane
I can't control my fingers, I can't control my brain
Oh no oh oh oh oh"
:D
Yeah i love it too.

I will eliminate them taxes that are breaking all our backsies, and push for privatizatshyion... wait that's Bush.

I would do much the same for New Zealanders though. Futhermore, I would boost military funding from 1% to 3% of our GPD, change the flag, give our cops guns, grant the Security and Intelligence Service 'police' powers and possibly give their agents guns too (or at least batoons). We'd help America wage its war of terror.

Certain current affairs hosts will be barred from broadcasting on television or radio, and TVNZ will be granted two extra 'propaganda' channels. No more use of the airwaves to rant about the gays ruining the country, solo mothers, or those bloody refugees. Facists be warned.

Most importantly cannabis use for medical purposes will be legalized, Brain Tamaki arrested for crimes of insanity, Parliament burnt to the ground, and I'll make myself head of state. Tax cuts for every (government) worker, and one law for all... obey me, or die.

a.I'd attack France. I mean, what are they going to do, defend themselves?
b. Wipe North Korea off the planet with a few nukes as an example to the rest of the world.
c. Make abortion illegal
d. Make Homosexuality illegal
e. Dig a big canal between US and Mexico and fill it full of sharks and pirannas.
f. Make illegal imigrants punishable by death
g. Cut off all trade with socialist countries and even the ones who claim their not.
h. take over Canada and make it against the law to speak anything but English.
I. Make groups such as the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, NAACP, NOW, and AARP illegal under the laws of treason and sedation
J. Do away with Welfare
K. Give the Lefties their own little satalite country in Montanta and make it illegal to visit or leave.
Want an alliance sometime

I'm not going to be a dictator...being in power for life carries unnecessary drawbacks...like having to worry about being killed in a power struggle :sniper:

So...I'm the President of the US.

My only act as President (aside from the necessary day to day type stuff), would be to completely revise the U.S. Constitution.

This revision will be revised to specifically state, in plain english, not what the government can do...but what it can't do...this would apply to ALL levels of government.

We're to obsessed in America with trying to DO things, when we ought to leave well enough alone. You can reword the entire Bill of Rights in this manner, and also make sure that no political interest can make a law...because laws will now only say what can't be done...not what can.

How are you going to write a law for tax exemptions for overseas corporations?

"No company can't not have it's offices overseas."??? Not only is that not plain english, but it would never be passed anyways.

My idea would be a great way to get rid of a lot of stupid laws, both left and right leaning, that simply don't make any sense!

I would attempt to free my subjects.

I would:

1)Get us out of NATO, NAFTA, the UN, the WTO, and every other entangling alliance
2)Bar all CFR, PNAC, TC, IPS, etc. members from holding any jobs in the federal government
3)Get rid of both social and corporate welfare (but states and local governments could have social welfare if they wanted to)
4)Abolish minimum wage laws, privatize social security, do away with Medicare and Medicaid, and stamp out every other socialistic aspect of the federal government
5)Repeal all 'gun-control' laws
6)Leave gay marriage, abortion, etc. to the states
7)Return all illegal immigrants to their respective countries, but legal ones could stay
8)Drastically strengthen our borders
9)Do away with income taxation, the IRS, and the Federal Reserve
10)Do away with the Departments of Education, the Interior, Energy, Housing and Urban Development, Transportation, Agriculture, etc. (leaving only the Departments of State, Treasury, and Justice)
11)Break up the Department of Defense into the Departments of War, the Navy, and the Air Force

(to be continued)If you were a chick and I was single I'd marry you. ...Except the part about privatizing social security. Why not just abolish it?

How refreshing to see the Right's agenda laid out so honestly - unprovoked war, elimination of civil liberties, brutal repression of ideological enemies, xenophobia, prejudice and discrimination.

And then they don't understand what liberals bitch about. The best thing would be to let them live in a nation run like that, but have them be part of the "underclass."

a.I'd attack France. I mean, what are they going to do, defend themselves?
b. Wipe North Korea off the planet with a few nukes as an example to the rest of the world.
c. Make abortion illegal
d. Make Homosexuality illegal
e. Dig a big canal between US and Mexico and fill it full of sharks and pirannas.
f. Make illegal imigrants punishable by death
g. Cut off all trade with socialist countries and even the ones who claim their not.
h. take over Canada and make it against the law to speak anything but English.
I. Make groups such as the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, NAACP, NOW, and AARP illegal under the laws of treason and sedation
J. Do away with Welfare
K. Give the Lefties their own little satalite country in Montanta and make it illegal to visit or leave.

a. France has nukes
d. Again?
i. Why bother with a trial?


You don't listen to Michael Savage do you?

And then they don't understand what liberals bitch about. The best thing would be to let them live in a nation run like that, but have them be part of the "underclass."

Yeah, that could work.

for your information:


Anthil facts

Anthil is an anarchy-based nation, contrary to what its historically evolved name may suggest and nothing like a hive mind society. Anarchy has to be understood in the Bakunin sense of not centrally governed, but low-tiered pyramidal from the base up. Citizens are organized in small communities where the frequently dispatched referenda are discussed and voted. Voting is compulsory, but blank and undecided votes are possible.

Anthil is a pacifist nation. It doesn't even have an army at all, as there are no natural resources to speak of worth defending. Economically it relies on self-sufficiency in sustainable agricultural produce and manufacture. Its export consists nearly entirely of services. Outsourced software development, implementation, accountancy, translation work etc., now nearly all of it web-based. Consequently over the past decade economical stability has vastly improved. As a great majority of Anthil citizens rejects the capitalist system, though, in the eyes of the world it doesn't amount to much economically. So be it. It's a small price to pay for free education, health care, social security, free public transport, virtual lack of crime etc. Not to mention the population's general feel of contentment and happiness.

More details are available.

Umm... Anthil?

We're speaking about REAL LIFE countries, not NS countries.

Umm... Anthil?

We're speaking about REAL LIFE countries, not NS countries.
Real life, internet...
What's the difference?
:D

Austrian descent and American black descent. Austrian on my mom's side and black on my dad's side. And proud of it.

Does your mother have no shame?
She's a disgrace to her beautiful Austrian heritage.
And as for you, yes you would be hung.
I cant have mongrels like you rallying against my goverments.

And as for you, yes you would be hung.
Well, as they say, once you go black, you never go back...
*shifty eyes*
Oh wait, you didn't mean that kind of hung, did you?

Does your mother have no shame?
She's a disgrace to her beautiful Austrian heritage.
And as for you, yes you would be hung.
I cant have mongrels like you rallying against my goverments.
I see this as flaming (or trolling). :mad:

The words White and Aryan do not specifically refer to the color of one's skin. White is a heritage, not a skin colour (unless you're albino lol).
I would only hang you if you werent of Aryan descent, and only because you'd inevitably pose a risk to my country.
So may I ask, what are you?
What is your definition of white heritage?

Does your mother have no shame?
She's a disgrace to her beautiful Austrian heritage.
And as for you, yes you would be hung.
I cant have mongrels like you rallying against my goverments.
Hmm. In that case, *buys up a Desert Eagle and a Remington .30-06 rifle. and an M-16 with lots of grenades for good measure.*

Don't be talking about my mother, boy! CHA-CLICK! :mad:

With the best form of government yet tried on earth - that of scandinavia.
I'm with this guy, the Scandanavian system seems to be working quite well.

I'll serve (not rule) it like the warlord general that I RP. By all means, my Sino is paradise for the Chinese race.

Does your mother have no shame?
She's a disgrace to her beautiful Austrian heritage.
And as for you, yes you would be hung.
I cant have mongrels like you rallying against my goverments.

You are a disgusting example of a human being. To say that people deserve to die for their parent's heritage is as low as you possibly can get. I hope you are in a bad car accident and are saved from bleeding to death by the goodness of a non-aryan passerby.

I don't even want to know what the fuck made you start thinking like that. :mad:

I can do better than that.

Oma (German Grandma) once told me that her family goes back to Austrian nobles several generations ago. Now if that ain't something to feel proud of, I don't know what is, other than knowing that my father's ancestors worked hard for their masters down here in the South before the Civil War, even to the point when they most likely wished to just stop and die, but they somehow summon the strength and courage to continue.

So my ancestors were both prominent members of society, and the worst-treated members of society. Small wonder that he can only see flaws, where I see strength.

*smacks Hitler Jugend with my Noble's Staff of Wisdom and shackles him to my Slave's Chain of Justice* :p

I don't even want to know what the fuck made you start thinking like that. :mad:
I've never understood it. I guess some people feel a need to be superior.
I, personally, always felt totally inferior to others, and never really felt a need to change that, so I guess I have the opposite of his problem. I just can't understand why people need to be in power and in control and stuff like that...

I can do better than that.

Oma once told me that her family goes back to Austrian nobles several generations ago. Now if that ain't something to feel proud of, I don't know what is, other than knowing that my father's ancestors worked hard for their masters down here in the South before the Civil War, even to the point when they most likely wished to just stop and die, but they somehow summon the strength and courage to continue.

*smacks Hitler Jugend with my Noble's Staff of Wisdom and shackles him to my Slave's Chain of Justice* :p

I should have left you to it, but nothing pisses me off more than a Nazi. :mad:

...Though I can think of a better way to utilise those shackles and that staff, but I won't say it. Needless to say, you probably wouldn't want them back afterwards.

I've never understood it. I guess some people feel a need to be superior.
I, personally, always felt totally inferior to others, and never really felt a need to change that, so I guess I have the opposite of his problem. I just can't understand why people need to be in power and in control and stuff like that...

Nazism= Political S&M?

They take more flak than they dish out...So it cant be the feeling of power. I think they just like being humiliated and made to feel powerless.

I can do better than that.

Oma once told me that her family goes back to Austrian nobles several generations ago. Now if that ain't something to feel proud of, I don't know what is, other than knowing that my father's ancestors worked hard for their masters down here in the South before the Civil War, even to the point when they most likely wished to just stop and die, but they somehow summon the strength and courage to continue.

So my ancestors were both prominent members of society, and the worst-treated members of society. Small wonder that he can only see flaws, where I see strength.

*smacks Hitler Jugend with my Noble's Staff of Wisdom and shackles him to my Slave's Chain of Justice* :p
You have deep roots going back on both sides. You have every right to be proud of your heritage.

Gah, why do some people feel a need to stomp out every person that's different when different is what's good? Sometimes I'd like to see what would happen if these Nazi types were opressed themselves. But no, for some reason people with different skin color, people with different sexual orientation, peop,le with a different religion, even people who just look at someone the wrong way are the ones at fault, for some reason. Why? Nobody knows, but they're easy to pick on.

When society sobers up and opens its eyes, it will be ashamed of what it has done...

I have an ancestor who was a marquis, but he was the exception. I also have indentured servant, murderers, horse theives, cattle rustlers and moonshiners. Cherokee, Commanche, Irish, German, English, French, and Dutch. Happy to be a mongrel. Mutts are usually the hardiest anyway.

I would be an insane dictator!! Which would be great fun for me, but maybe not for all my subjects. Everyone would have to be in great shape, no couch potatoes allowed, oh, and literate, as T.V. watching would be severly limited.

When society sobers up and opens its eyes, it will be ashamed of what it has done...

We do indeed have an example of the lowest common denominator of what can be called "human" above. Not that it's a surprise given the name, though.

a.I'd attack France. I mean, what are they going to do, defend themselves?
b. Wipe North Korea off the planet with a few nukes as an example to the rest of the world.
c. Make abortion illegal
d. Make Homosexuality illegal
e. Dig a big canal between US and Mexico and fill it full of sharks and pirannas.
f. Make illegal imigrants punishable by death
g. Cut off all trade with socialist countries and even the ones who claim their not.
h. take over Canada and make it against the law to speak anything but English.
I. Make groups such as the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, NAACP, NOW, and AARP illegal under the laws of treason and sedation
J. Do away with Welfare
K. Give the Lefties their own little satalite country in Montanta and make it illegal to visit or leave.

So basically make America no longer the "home of the free" and turn it into an imitation of Hitler's Third Reich?

Really, Free Speech is at the core of American freedom. Without it the great nation of America would be no better than the People's Republic of China.

And how come I always hear conservatives talking about outlawing liberalism, but never the reverse?

Sorry to hijack the thread, just I'm astounded at the idea of revoking free speech in a nation that's defined by it.

I have an ancestor who was a marquis, but he was the exception. I also have indentured servant, murderers, horse theives, cattle rustlers and moonshiners. Cherokee, Commanche, Irish, German, English, French, and Dutch. Happy to be a mongrel. Mutts are usually the hardiest anyway.
This just gave me a thought to overturn the ludicrous idea of genetic "purity":
Aren't those individuals with the greatest amount of genetic diversity actually more successful ecologically and biologically than those who are "pure of blood". I mean, they pass on a greater variety of genes, which would increase the likelihood of stronger offspring and mutations that benefit them as well. If pure of blood keep mating/marrying each other, then there's the greater chance of genetic diseases, like hemophilia, which incidently, afflicted a number of Royal Families, like Alexis Romanov. Sucks to be pure Aryan, then! :D

This just gave me a thought to overturn the ludicrous idea of genetic "purity":
Aren't those individuals with the greatest amount of genetic diversity actually more successful ecologically and biologically than those who are "pure of blood".

When were aryans ever in touch enough with reality that logic and facts would have any effect?

When were aryans ever in touch enough with reality that logic and facts would have any effect?

Ha! :D

When were aryans ever in touch enough with reality that logic and facts would have any effect?
Good point. But let's just hope that this "Hitler Youth" kid would see it and logically deduce that it makes more sense than his regular people-hating bullshit.

Good point. But let's just hope that this "Hitler Youth" kid would see it and logically deduce that it makes more sense than his regular people-hating bullshit.

It does occasionally happen. A friend of mine decided one day (before I met him) that the "Romper-Stomper" lifestyle was stupid, misguided, and just plain wrong - his words, not mine. So he just walked away from it and changed his world view.

I suspect he's in a vast minority though.

Well, you see I'm Canadian, so, naturally, I'd have to be left-wing to appease the masses (based on current trends).

So, if I was ruling, first of all, I'd seal a majority, then all hell would break loose! In the House of Commons that is!

I'd of course, make sure that the legislation legalising gay marriage passed; heck, while I'm at it, might as well legalise polygamy (once again, why the hell should I care if someone wants two wives/husbands?).

Legalise marijuana.

Legalise abortion and euthanasia.

Cut foreign aid in half; return the money to the people who deserve it the most, Canadian tax payers. I'd rebuild the healthcare and education systems.

I'd reform the welfare system so only those who are truly eligible for it would qualify; people who are just too plain lazy to work would be out of luck, though they could collect IE until they got a job. IE only lasts for so long though...

Create stiffer sentencing on crimes, while lightening the sentence on crimes that are a waste on tax payer money.

Increase national defense and security while ensuring that the BMS does not ever come onto Canadian soil and that American military is NOT on Canadian soil unless it's purely ceremonial or it's a time of need.

And just out of spite, make the religious-right movement illegal; in other words, it's perfectly fine to practice your religion, you just wouldn't be allowed preach and force your views on others through the petitioning for Draconian laws.

I'd hold a national referendum to have the NotWithStanding Clause removed from the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Get Canada a permanant seat on the Security Council.

The tax system would remain the same, except for the corperations. They would be bound by the constraints of Canadian tax laws and held accountable for failure to pay accounts in full. I'd tighten laws about offshore revenue as well.

Church and state would be so separate, that if any parent wished to send their child to a religious school, it would have to be a private school. The public school system would be open to everyone and sufficiantly funded; all money previous directed to the Catholic School boards diverted to ensuring that the public school experience is the best in the world.

You are a disgusting example of a human being. To say that people deserve to die for their parent's heritage is as low as you possibly can get.

First of all, I dont think that people "deserve to die for their parent's heritage." You clearly didnt read the previous posts, or dont understand the context in which I wrote them. What I'm saying is that in my country, I couldnt allow non-Whites to brainwash my children into thinking they are our equals, as they are doing in America, Canada, Britain and every other civilized nation right now. I cannot allow for mongrels to roam free, passing on their genetically inferior blood.

I hope you are in a bad car accident and are saved from bleeding to death by the goodness of a non-aryan passerby

No, I'm pretty sure a Black man would just come by and take my wallet while I lay there bleeding to death.


Non-Whites like to claim their equality, yet they have contributed next to nothing to the society in which they live. You make me a list of the contributions made to Western civilization by the Blacks, and I'll make you a list of contributions made by Whites. Good luck.

First of all, I dont think that people "deserve to die for their parent's heritage." You clearly didnt read the previous posts, or dont understand the context in which I wrote them. What I'm saying is that in my country, I couldnt allow non-Whites to brainwash my children into thinking they are our equals, as they are doing in America, Canada, Britain and every other civilized nation right now. I cannot allow for mongrels to roam free, passing on their genetically inferior blood.
So basically, you think people deserve to die for their parent's heritage.

Nice self-contradiction in that paragraph.

Well if I was the supreme ruler of the U.S. I would make some pretty dramatic changes.

1. Completely revamp the bill of rights. I would get rid of freedom of speech if its against the government or government practices. I would change freedom of religion to "Freedom of Religion as long as you choice a state sponsored and recognized religions." Only Judeo-Christain religions of course and no jehovas witnesses or mormons or muslims. No more seperation between church and state

2. Round up of all illegal immigrants and have them executed forthwith and the confisication of their property. Revamp the immigration system to only allow wealthy or educated people of Euorpean descent into the country.

3. Forced disbandment of the ACLU, NAACP, PETA and other radical leftwing groups with the execution of the leaders for treason against State and God. Their property to be confisicated by the government sold at auction.

4. Completely dismantle the welfare system thereby saving the taxpayers billions a year. In its place I wold enact a work program that assigns the unemployed to minium wage hardlabor jobs until they can they can find a job in the private sector.

5. Drasticallly cut taxes for all classes since there is no longer welfare there is no longer a need for most of those taxes. I would cut taxes by approx. 50% the cost of what welfare was and use the excess in military spending.

6. Change the rule of law for court cases from voting fairly and justicely to voting wisely. Abolish the jury system and institute judges as the final decision maker.

7. The gradual elimination of underisables and other filth from the nation through eugenics and forced sterilization.

8. Remove parole from the penal system and change from rehabilation to punishment.

9. End all foreign aid immediately withdraw from the United Nations and all internation treaties concering the rules of war.

10. Removal of 20 million of the Iraqi people from the face of the planet and give the remaining 5 million the option to either convert to christainity or be purged. Make Iraq a colony of the United States and confisicate their oil wells for the government.

So basically, you think people deserve to die for their parent's heritage.

Nice self-contradiction in that paragraph.

You clearly do not understand the idea of this thread.
This is about how you would rule your country, not the whole world. I couldnt give a damn about those living outside my borders. And yes, I agree, killing because simply because of their heritage is wrong. It would be wrong if I said:
"I plan on travelling around the world killing all non-Aryans!"
But I have not said this. All I am saying is that in order to secure my country, I would be forced to eliminate the enemy that lives within it. And I wouldnt be killing them because of their heritage, I'd be killing them because they are a threat to my people.

And I wouldnt be killing them because of their heritage, I'd be killing them because they are a threat to my people.
I don't see anything they have in common other than their heritage. That seems to be what's making them your enemy...

I don't see anything they have in common other than their heritage. That seems to be what's making them your enemy...

It has everything to do with it!
I cannot allow them to spread their propaganda.
You dont seem to understand national security.

It has everything to do with it!
I cannot allow them to spread their propaganda.
You dont seem to understand national security.
Propaganda?
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I see no propaganda.

Funny, earlier you were saying it was because they are "genetically inferior" or somesuch.

Propaganda?
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I see no propaganda.

Funny, earlier you were saying it was because they are "genetically inferior" or somesuch.

Of course you dont "see" any propaganda, because you obviously have fallen victim to it. And as far as being "genetically inferior" goes, refer to my proposal to Kanabia to make me a list of Black contributions to Western civilization.

Of course you dont "see" any propaganda, because you obviously have fallen victim to it.
Hmm, swift dodge. Okay, why not show me some of this "propaganda" then?
And as far as being "genetically inferior" goes, refer to my proposal to Kanabia to make me a list of Black contributions to Western civilization.
Hee, I like the "to Western civilization". What makes us so all-important?
On top of that, what does contributions to society have to do with being genetically inferior?

Hee, I like the "to Western civilization". What makes us so all-important?
On top of that, what does contributions to society have to do with being genetically inferior?

Ok, then explain to me why every almost every major advancement, whether it be in the arts or in the sciences, has been made by Whites.

If its not because we are genetically superior, explain your reasoning.

we would improve by allowing women to bear clones or natural methods are aceptable as well, and abortion would not be heard of... making gay marrige a offense punishable by ten years in a russian gulag.. and rebuilding the soviet union to the power it should have always been.. glasnot and perestroika were downfalls comrade.. with clones and a large population... our armys would not be needing reinforcements, for we can make our own... everyone would want to serve under our power... women children men all shall serve this great state... all shall work..
harsh perhaps.. but it is what is needed to become a great superpower


onwards and upwards comrade!

Ok, then explain to me why every almost every major advancement, whether it be in the arts or in the sciences, has been made by Whites.

If its not because we are genetically superior, explain your reasoning.
The book "Guns, Germs, and Steel" explains why European civilizations were far more advanced than other civilizations, by using geographic/environmental arguments that completely debunk your racist theories.

Of course you dont "see" any propaganda, because you obviously have fallen victim to it. And as far as being "genetically inferior" goes, refer to my proposal to Kanabia to make me a list of Black contributions to Western civilization.

The point is invalid. Africa was largely a series of tribal networks with no desire to change their way of life, instead they had a far superior sense of balance which "Western civilisation" lacks in its entirety. African civilisation may not have had the frills of western civilisation, but it didn't seek them. Most Western civilisation comes from the middle-east and India and China, anyway. Simply because a species has not revolutionised the world does not make it inferior to those that have. By your logic, women are also genetically inferior as they have not contributed little, compared to men.

Western civilisation has invented remarkably little. It simply exploited those discoveries in a more agressive way due to the political situation in Europe at the time. In a situation where multiple hostile nations are constantly warring with each other, and arms race scenario is inevitable, and since the world was isolated, continent to continent, the European arms race was isolated to Europe. by the time we remembered there was much more of the world out there than just Europe, of course we were ahead of them. War is the mother of invention, after all. And Europe, until recently, has always been at war with itself.

Ok, then explain to me why every almost every major advancement, whether it be in the arts or in the sciences, has been made by Whites.

If its not because we are genetically superior, explain your reasoning.
Well, it's because...
Hey wait...
It's not!
Look at the Chinese, with paper and rockets. Their gunpowder, their compasses, their silk. look at the Japanese with their beautiful traditional artworks and their haiku. And that's just the Orient.

Let's turn to Africa.
The Egyptians gave us papyrus, mummification, and the idea of a will to govern to whom your possessions are given after you die. Coffee was first widely used in Ethiopia. Bridges were invented in Africa. Fire was first used, basic hunting tools were used.

Time for the Middle East!
Fixed settlements were first created in Mesopotamia, in modern-day Iraq. They first used copper as well. The walled town was concieved of there.

Hmm, it seems quite a lot was invented by non-whites...

The point is invalid. Africa was largely a series of tribal networks with no desire to change their way of life, instead they had a far superior sense of balance which "Western civilisation" lacks in its entirety. African civilisation may not have had the frills of western civilisation, but it didn't seek them. Most Western civilisation comes from the middle-east and India and China, anyway. Simply because a species has not revolutionised the world does not make it inferior to those that have. By your logic, women are also genetically inferior as they have not contributed little, compared to men.

Western civilisation has invented remarkably little. It simply exploited those discoveries in a more agressive way due to the political situation in Europe at the time. In a situation where multiple hostile nations are constantly warring with each other, and arms race scenario is inevitable, and since the world was isolated, continent to continent, the European arms race was isolated to Europe. by the time we remembered there was much more of the world out there than just Europe, of course we were ahead of them. War is the mother of invention, after all. And Europe, until recently, has always been at war with itself.
Every important invention after 1400 AD was made in Europe or European-derived society (such as the USA and Australia), that is an undeniable fact.

I'm not (denying that), because I don't know for sure. But I'm also fairly confident that they didn't pull these inventions out of their arse, and relied on knowledge originally gathered from around the world to come up with them. That's not to say again that no discoveries can trace their origin to Europe, but a lot can trace their origin outside of it, enough so to rend any superior race bs absolutely null.

Every important invention after 1400 AD was made in Europe or European-derived society (such as the USA and Australia), that is an undeniable fact.
Methinks you forgot some things...

1400 AD: Biological Warfare invented by the Tartars in central Asia, They catapaulted plague victims over enemy walls.

1453 AD: Siege guns first employed by the Ottoman Turks in the Siege of Constantinople

1460 AD: Water pipe invented in Etheopia, used for smoking hashish.

1470 AD: Accordion-fold books invented by the Aztecs.

1498 AD: Toothbrush invented in China.

I'll stop there, as I don't care to type any more of these in.
Anyway, why is it that more recent inventions are more important? Without the old stuff, we wouldn't have any of this.

Methinks you forgot some things...

1400 AD: Biological Warfare invented by the Tartars in central Asia, They catapaulted plague victims over enemy walls.

1453 AD: Siege guns first employed by the Ottoman Turks in the Siege of Constantinople

1460 AD: Water pipe invented in Etheopia, used for smoking hashish.

1470 AD: Accordion-fold books invented by the Aztecs.

1498 AD: Toothbrush invented in China.

I'll stop there, as I don't care to type any more of these in.
Anyway, why is it that more recent inventions are more important? Without the old stuff, we wouldn't have any of this.

I was taking exception to Jordaxia's comment that everything about western civilization came from India and China. I totally believe in the equality of races, but the sophistication of societies are clearly unequal. Go read "Guns, Germs, and Steel" by Jared Diamond for a very well researched and scientifically sound summary of why European civilization was far more technologically advanced than other civilizations, and why Asian civilizations were less advanced but still more advanced than indiginous America, etc. Although early inventions are undoubtedly important, one must find some way to account for why in the past 600 years (until the 20th century), non-European societies totally stagnated, contributing nearly nothing to human scientific understanding, while Europe achieved unprecedented technological superiority which allowed it to dominate other cultures. A toothbrush is nice but why didn't China invent a mathematical model of electromagnetic waves, while Scotland did?

Also, Turkey had a nice culture but in fact siege weaponry was first invented and deployed by the Chinese in the 1200s, and the guns in question at Constantinople were designed by a Hungarian engineer. Just a random factoiod.

Also, Turkey had a nice culture but in fact siege weaponry was first invented and deployed by the Chinese in the 1200s, and the guns in question at Constantinople were designed by a Hungarian engineer. Just a random factoiod.
Ooh, really?
I just got pwned there, then.
History's not really one of my strong points, though, so I'm surpirsed I don't get my arguments involving history destroyed more often.

I was taking exception to Jordaxia's comment that everything about western civilization came from India and China.


I actually said "Most" in my first post, and clarified it further by acknowleging that several inventions hold their origin in Europe, just not the overwhelming majority that Mr Jugend said. Merely enough to null a superior race argument.

meh, tis difficult to explain well on the internet when you can't focus your own thoughts for more than a few seconds at a time.

I'd do everything I could to make the country richer and very capitalist. This is of a higher priority and over-rides everything else. Then I'd have very good civil rights. Political Freedoms I don't mind.

Look at the Chinese, with paper and rockets. Their gunpowder, their compasses, their silk. look at the Japanese with their beautiful traditional artworks and their haiku. And that's just the Orient.

Let's turn to Africa.
The Egyptians gave us papyrus, mummification, and the idea of a will to govern to whom your possessions are given after you die. Coffee was first widely used in Ethiopia. Bridges were invented in Africa. Fire was first used, basic hunting tools were used.

Time for the Middle East!
Fixed settlements were first created in Mesopotamia, in modern-day Iraq. They first used copper as well. The walled town was concieved of there.

Hmm, it seems quite a lot was invented by non-whites...

How can you compare those to things like:
- electricity (and the many ways of generating it)
- steam engine
- automobiles
- computer
- etc. (I could easily list 500 things Whites have invented which have shaped OUR societies and civilization. The non-Whites simply live here and bask in the fruits of OUR labour...having given nothing themselves.

I asked for a list of non-White inventions that shaped Western Civilization.
Haiku poetry has not shaped the world, unlike the great White minds that have.

While several major innovations have come from north africa, can anyone name a lasting contribution that sub-saharan africans have made to world civilization?

How can you compare those to things like:
- electricity (and the many ways of generating it)
- steam engine
- automobiles
- computer
- etc. (I could easily list 500 things Whites have invented which have shaped OUR societies and civilization. The non-Whites simply live here and bask in the fruits of OUR labour...having given nothing themselves.
I can compare these things because they are the basis for it!
Can't you see? We wouldn't be here if it weren't for non-whites!
They gave us the fire that runs your steam engines and your power plants, the beginnings of the knowledge of explosives that allow an engine to work! Without what they gave us, none of what we made could exist!

Too many things to even think of and list at once.. But a couple things that come to mind quickly are...

Mandatory vasectomies to swinging cocks getting multiple women pregnant and not suppoting the children. Mandatory partial or full hystorectomies to women repeatedly getting pregnant and wanting abortions.

No Death Row. If it was fact that the individual was guilty and deserved death they would be quickly shot in the head and that would be end of story.

Well I am not a good leader so certainly my desisions would lead to economical breakdown. :p We would live poor but free!

How can you compare those to things like:
- electricity (and the many ways of generating it)
- steam engine
- automobiles
- computer
- etc. (I could easily list 500 things Whites have invented which have shaped OUR societies and civilization. The non-Whites simply live here and bask in the fruits of OUR labour...having given nothing themselves.

I asked for a list of non-White inventions that shaped Western Civilization.
Haiku poetry has not shaped the world, unlike the great White minds that have.


yes, but you then turn to completely ignore the major inventions in her list....
gunpowder, paper, FIRE, usage of copper....

If you can claim that non-whites could have invented the computer when they didn't have the prerequisite technology that we had, then you're not quite grasping it accurately.

what you have listed are all modern inventions and discoveries, made at a time where western culture was at its most expansive and dominent, with the exception of the steam engine, which was considered a novelty by the ancient greeks. If you consider if Europe had been far larger and sparser, would this have occured, of course it wouldn't have. There was not enough space in Europe for everyone, and savagery and greed led to a history of war amongst the natives. Since the other continents are far larger, and have space, this constant war did not occur, the necessity for these inventions to kill each other never took place, and the cultures did not need or want to spread and conquer everywhere else. There is nothing inherently superior in the caucasion species, just a matter of location and politics.


edit: I took so long to post, she put her own reply up... slow old me.

I would:

1)Get us out of NATO, NAFTA, the UN, the WTO, and every other entangling alliance
2)Bar all CFR, PNAC, TC, IPS, etc. members from holding any jobs in the federal government
3)Get rid of both social and corporate welfare (but states and local governments could have social welfare if they wanted to)
4)Abolish minimum wage laws, privatize social security, do away with Medicare and Medicaid, and stamp out every other socialistic aspect of the federal government
5)Repeal all 'gun-control' laws
6)Leave gay marriage, abortion, etc. to the states
7)Return all illegal immigrants to their respective countries, but legal ones could stay
8)Drastically strengthen our borders
9)Do away with income taxation, the IRS, and the Federal Reserve
10)Do away with the Departments of Education, the Interior, Energy, Housing and Urban Development, Transportation, Agriculture, etc. (leaving only the Departments of State, Treasury, and Justice)
11)Break up the Department of Defense into the Departments of War, the Navy, and the Air Force

(to be continued)

12)Get us the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan
13)Dismantle all our foreign military bases and return all the troops home
14)Break off relations with China, Russia, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, Laos, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Turkmenistan, Angola, and Libya
15)Renew and strengthen ties with Taiwan, recognizing it as China's only legitimate government
16)Eliminate all protectionist tariffs
17)Apologize to the world for G.W. Bush, who would be tried as a criminal of war
18)Drastically cut government spending in all areas
19)Return to the Gold Standard
20)Significantly reduce the power of the federal government in general, and of the Presidency in particular
21)Get rid of the "President's Day" holiday, and replace it with a holiday dedicated to Washington
22)End corporate influence in government
23)Restore the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, the House Un-American Activities Committee, etc.
24)Do my damnedest to destroy the two-party system
25)Prevent the United States from engaging in military action without a congressional declaration of war, and only if the nation has been attacked or is in danger of being attacked; and then, we would fight only to win
26)Destroy the UN building in New York City
27)Repeal the 17th Amendment

I would completely reform the education system to concentrate on the following four subjects: Mathematics, Sciences, Political Awareness, and Consumer Awareness and Education. These, I feel, are the most important things one can know in a democracy. The Math and Science for the progression of civilization on the technological front and the Political and Consumer Awareness for the proper running of a capitalist democracy. Then, I would participate in the righting of a constitution that made it so the government would stick to the three natural human rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and a could never infringe upon, abridge, or in any way interfere with them.

Then, once all the years passed that this would require to take place, I would step down as the last public official to ever live and turn the governing of the country over to a direct democracy of the people. As a final decree I would get rid of such things as social security, medicare, and basically all social programs, and replace them with a constitutionally entrenched public works system in which, if you were unable to find work at a living wage, the government would provide one for you and you would work in some kind of public position. Along with this would be the creation of a system of support for those who are either too old or too disadvantaged physically or mentally to support themselves.

A land of almost near perfect freedom, both socially and economically. The classical liberal dream come to fruitation.

How I would rule Britain, if I had the power...

* High level of prgressive taxation, so the very rich gte taxed lots and the poor less.
* Nationalise the top 200 companies
* Abandon PFI
* Increase Welfare, Health and Education spending
* Make Politics a compulsory subject at GCSE like Science and English are
* Impose taxes on industries abroad, like a VAT for tax dodgers
* Reform the electoral system to quasi-PR
* Publically fund elections
* Ensure people are properly educated on issues such as Immigration by teaching them critical reading skills at school
* Stay in the EU, but make moves to reform it so it is more left wing
* Move away from the US, more towards Europe
* Get out of Iraq, declare the war illegal
* Increase the roles of local councils
* Focus on rehabilitation not punishment
* Watch as the Tories die out ;)
* Allow everyone to what they like with their own body so long as that does not interfere with anothers right to this
* Entrench the Human Rights Act
* Make the judicary democratically elected
* Other stuff I cannot remeber...

Abolish Presidential term-limits, eliminate direct election of Senators, reform the income tax by creating a flat tax of 25%, with those under $50,000 a year paying nothing, slash inheritance taxes, pull us out of the UN, repeal GATT, abolish the capital-gains tax, put John Ashcroft, Charles Schumer, the Clintons, Gore, Janet Reno, and several others on trial for treason, execute them as traitors, cut the size of the Federal Government drastically, return to the Silver Standard mandated by the Constitution, lower the drinking age to 18, abolish the Faith-Based Initiative, increase tariffs on several nations dramatically, immunize myself against prosecution for anything I've done in office, write a new Constitution with only slight adjustments, require a balanced budget, and have myself appointed Chief Justice of the Supreme Court in the new Constitution along with my comrades to varioius judicial posts to defend the Revolution. Just a few things off the top of my head. Oh, and legalize pot, prostitution, and polygamy.

Also outlaw any state laws that restrict the sexual behavior of consenting adults.

How can you compare those to things like:
- electricity (and the many ways of generating it)
- steam engine
- automobiles
- computer
- etc. (I could easily list 500 things Whites have invented which have shaped OUR societies and civilization. The non-Whites simply live here and bask in the fruits of OUR labour...having given nothing themselves.

What kind of garbage did you learn in your home/school/community? This sentence, "The non-Whites simply live here and bask in the fruits of our labour," has got to be among the most ignorant I've ever read. You are confusing ancestry for the individual. YOUR labour?? Did YOU create the steam engine, electricity, automobiles, and computers? No, you didn't. You're an individual born into a country with a collective history. But its achievements are not directly YOUR achievements. All you did was be born. And, yes, you'll go on in life to work inside your country - thus working for your country. But, hey, guess what? All those babies of different ancestries who were also born in this country are likewise going to grow up and work for your country. And all those individuals coming in from different countries? They'll be working too. Labels get us into a terrible mess, frankly. The history of civilisation is an overlapping of ideas, movements, and advances between societies. But the history of an individual is separate from this. An individual is separate from his culture in that culture is ASCRIBED to individuals upon birth - like your hate and intolerance, these cultural values are not prerequisites; they're taught. And in the great American tradition of the melting pot, more often than not children of any other ethnicity learn to take tremendous pride in America's history. Countries are ideals; they're a set of accomplishments and failures, a shared history and culture used to create a specific society. Countries, and culture, are NOT the people within them. They are abstracts. People - human beings - are simply that: human, uncarved blocks waiting to be imprinted by the values of the people around them. That's all.

A point about eugenics, too, and supposed "genetic inferiority." Your beliefs are antiquated and erroneous -- inbreeding within a culture has long since been found to create a weaker gene pool. Strength lies in "hybridization" of various strains. It's in fact BETTER for evolution for us to be intermarrying. Get with the last 50 years of genetic research, will you?

I apologize for sounding terse and condescending. I may find your hate-mongering society's greatest danger, but I still do not mean to sound rude. I just think that it's very easy to form biases based on fallacies -- we're so very easily affected by media and the world around us!

But I ask you to consider that, for each of us, our minds are our greatest weaknesses. We come to mistrust the world around us when we should be mistrusting our supposedly "logical" biases, because more than you think can be attributed to fallacy. More often than you think, we see what we want to see in the world around us, and not what's actually there.

Perhaps now is a good time to suggest a reason for you to look beyond your beliefs. I'm sure you think they work well enough for you, but it's this sort of ignorance that, existing in cultures all over the world, turns intolerance to violence. The fact is, no individual is an island, and no country can be either. States, and people, cannot help but be affected by the world around them. Globalisation, for instance, is going to continue. Cultures are going to continue to intermingle; multinational corporations are already becoming the norm. And in the streets you will surely find people who don't look like you, but whose families have perhaps been in your country for generations - people who, though they look different, are most certainly well ensconced in your country's overall culture. And this is going to continue. No matter how much you may want these "different people" out of your country - no matter how much you think the world would be a better place if they were gone - the world is an interactive place, and will remain so. Unless you mass exterminated everyone who didn't look like you, you will never be "rid" of these people you irrationally hate, these people who've done no less than you; these people who were merely born into a world already rife with racial politics.

So if multiculturalism isn't going to go away, what's the point of such a ridiculous and hate-filled stance? How is it going to make your life any better? All it's going to do is fill you with more intolerance, more hatred. How the hell do you hope to be happy, living with such disgust of your fellow man, or perhaps such a tremendous insecurity about yourself that you need to put down all who are different?

The world's changing; it's becoming yet more open-minded and welcoming of diversity. And it is the flexible reeds that survive the wind. How is your rigidity in this regard, despite the turning tides of the world, indicative of anything but genetic and social weakness in your upbringing, YOUR genes?

Anyway, that's my two Cdn cents, at least. Peace, and all the best to you.

bump

As the first person in office to run on a platform based on common-sense.
:p

First of all, I dont think that people "deserve to die for their parent's heritage." You clearly didnt read the previous posts, or dont understand the context in which I wrote them. What I'm saying is that in my country, I couldnt allow non-Whites to brainwash my children into thinking they are our equals, as they are doing in America, Canada, Britain and every other civilized nation right now. I cannot allow for mongrels to roam free, passing on their genetically inferior blood.

As neo-anarchists said, yes, basically you are saying that people deserve to die for their parent's heritage. If you really want me to, i'll reword it: you believe that your fellow countrymen deserve to die if their parents heritage isn't compatible with yours. Isn't that so much better. :rolleyes:

No, I'm pretty sure a Black man would just come by and take my wallet while I lay there bleeding to death.

*sigh*

It's attitudes like this that are the real problem here. :headbang:

I don't understand why you hate. There is no reason for it :mad:


Non-Whites like to claim their equality, yet they have contributed next to nothing to the society in which they live. You make me a list of the contributions made to Western civilization by the Blacks, and I'll make you a list of contributions made by Whites. Good luck.

ML Clark said everything much better than I possibly could, hence my terse replies. But i'd like to fire you this one:

Do you listen to rock music? You could be being warped by a non-white invention.

I would slay all my citizens and turn them into orks to raid and pillage the world. And after I takeover the world I will destroy the world!

I would slay all my citizens and turn them into orks to raid and pillage the world. And after I takeover the world I will destroy the world!

lol Lord Saurun-
why not instead of turning them into orks, turn them into zombies and then have all your zombies turn other people into zombies and once everyone in the world is a zombie then kill yourself! :D

*snicker*

I am God Bertoxxolus , god of plague and death!

How can you compare those to things like:
- electricity (and the many ways of generating it)
- steam engine
- automobiles
- computer
- etc. (I could easily list 500 things Whites have invented which have shaped OUR societies and civilization. The non-Whites simply live here and bask in the fruits of OUR labour...having given nothing themselves.

I asked for a list of non-White inventions that shaped Western Civilization.
Haiku poetry has not shaped the world, unlike the great White minds that have.
from http://johnmpinto.com/blackpride.html

There would be very few crops that would have flourished because
the nation was built on a slave-supported system.
There are no cities with tall skyscrapers because
Alexander Miles, a black man, invented the elevator,
and without it one finds great difficulty reaching high floors.

There are few if any cars because Richard Spikes, a black man,
invented the automatic gear shift,
Joseph Gammel, also black, invented the supercharge system for internal combustion engines,
and Garret A. Morgan invented the traffic signals.
Furthermore, one could not use the rapid transit system because its precursor was the electric trolley,
which was invented by another black man, Elbert R. Robinson.

Even if there were streets on which cars and a rapid transit system could operate,
they were cluttered with paper because an African American,
Charles Brooks, invented the street sweeper.

There were few if any newspapers, magazines and books because
John Love invented the pencil sharpener, William Purvis invented the fountain pen,
Lee Burridge invented the type writing machine and W A. Lovette invented the advanced printing press.
They were all black.


Even if Americans could write their letters, articles and books,
they would not have been transported by mail because
William Barry invented the postmarking and canceling machine,
William Purvis invented the handstamp and Philip Downin invented the letter drop.


The lawns were brown and wilted because Joseph Smith invented the lawn sprinkler
and John Burr the lawn mower.


When they entered their homes, they found them to be poorly ventilated and heated.
You see, Frederick Jones invented the air conditioner and Alice Parker the heating furnace.


Their homes were also filthy because Thomas W. Stewart invented the mop and Lloyd P. Ray the dust pan.


Their children met them at the door barefooted, shabby, motley and unkempt.
But what could one expect, Jan E. Matzelinger invented the shoe lasting machine,
Walter Sammons invented the comb, Lydia O. Newman invented the brush,
Sarah Boone invented the ironing board and George T. Samon invented the clothes dryer.


Finally, they were resigned to at least have dinner amidst all of this turmoil.
But here again, the food had spoiled because another black man,
John Standard invented the refrigerator.
No light to eat their spoiled meal
because the filament within the light bulb was invented by a black man.

Now we've quickly learned more about what it would be like
if there were no black people in the world,
especially if we were ever sick and needed blood.
Dr. Charles Drew, a black scientist, found a way to preserve and store blood,
which led to his starting the world's first blood bank.

Well, what if a family member had to have heart surgery?
This would not have been possible without Dr. Daniel Hale Williams,
a black doctor, who performed the first open-heart surgery.

And lastly, A Father of the Internet "Philip Emeagwali, a computer scientist,
is one of the fathers of the Internet and a trailblazer in petroleum extraction," reports CNN.

Want more?

Here:
http://www.swagga.com/inventors.htm

all about black inventors.

Good on you CoreWorlds :)

Of course you dont "see" any propaganda, because you obviously have fallen victim to it. And as far as being "genetically inferior" goes, refer to my proposal to Kanabia to make me a list of Black contributions to Western civilization.

How Ironic! :rolleyes:

Good on you CoreWorlds :)
Google is a geek's best friend. :D

12)Get us the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan
13)Dismantle all our foreign military bases and return all the troops home
14)Break off relations with China, Russia, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, Laos, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Turkmenistan, Angola, and Libya
15)Renew and strengthen ties with Taiwan, recognizing it as China's only legitimate government
16)Eliminate all protectionist tariffs
17)Apologize to the world for G.W. Bush, who would be tried as a criminal of war
18)Drastically cut government spending in all areas
19)Return to the Gold Standard
20)Significantly reduce the power of the federal government in general, and of the Presidency in particular
21)Get rid of the "President's Day" holiday, and replace it with a holiday dedicated to Washington
22)End corporate influence in government
23)Restore the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, the House Un-American Activities Committee, etc.
24)Do my damnedest to destroy the two-party system
25)Prevent the United States from engaging in military action without a congressional declaration of war, and only if the nation has been attacked or is in danger of being attacked; and then, we would fight only to win
26)Destroy the UN building in New York City
27)Repeal the 17th Amendment

Please explain your problem with the 17th amendment. :confused:

Please explain your problem with the 17th amendment. :confused:

After using the geeks best friend (:)) and looking at it, I can see a problem with it...

"The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state"

Two senators from each state gives unfair power to states with smaller populations, while larger states get unfair representation. Just hazarding a guess, but I think that may be what he's referring to.

1) Immediately render illegal all far right wing movements and most far left. Make membership of a far right group punishable by instant execution, in public, as a traitor to Her Majesty's United Kingdom.
2) Alter immigration laws to allow for a limited probation period for immigrants. If they're willing to work, they're welcome. If not, they can stay out.
3) Alter criminal justice laws by:
Re-instating the death penalty
Re-introducing the outlaw system
Making repeated rape punishable by death
Making rape punishable by a life sentence in jail (that is a true life sentence)
Immediately increase if at all possible the number of police on the beat
Give police powers to use extreme force against those exhbiting repeated anti-social behaviour
Rescind the amendments to firearm ownership laws preventing acquisition of hand weapons.


4) Re-introduce the means test.
5) Immediately begin making a clear social definition between the ordinnary decent people and the anti-social layabouts.
6) Pass a law banning British companies from using foreign companies for components where equivalent British systems are available.
7) Strengthen the commonwealth.
8) Strengthen the armed forces.
9) Nationalise the following:
Iron and steel industries
Mining
Shipbuilding
Railways
Air traffic control
Largest drug companies
All utilities
Arms production
10) Make repeated abuse of the benefit system punishable by starvation.
11) Maintain the Free Trade policy with the EU and introduce huge tariffs on all good not from the EU or the Commonwealth.
12) Re-introduce national service, subject to military approval.
13) Re-introduce the SUper Tax
14) Rescind the ban on foxhunting
15) Repeal the tuition fees decision
16) Commission some more battleships
17) Make it compulsory for all public buildings to fly the Union Flag
18) Emphasise that being British is not about race, religion, or origin, but about ideals of orderliness, politeness, respect for the law, tolerance, hard work, etc.
19) Execute Margaret Thatcher
20) Gradually demolish "industries" of the Thatcherist era, e.g. "financial service industries" ad the like, which absorb large quantities of money and produce no tangible product.

All those babies of different ancestries who were also born in this country are likewise going to grow up and work for your country. And all those individuals coming in from different countries? They'll be working too.
This is where you are wrong. Non-Whites in America refuse to conform and be American. Hence why you have the suffix "-American" on the end of almost every race now.
Look at the Black Panthers...they wanted to be as un-American as possible!
And their disgusting offspring, the NAACP wishes the same thing. They refuse to embrace the American way of life. They will not be working for my country, they'll be working for themselves, and to try to make their life better.

In 40 years, when my White grandchildren come home from school and they're crying because they were beat up just for being White, what am I supposed to say? What do I tell them when they ask "Grandpa, what did you do to ty to stop this?" You want me to say "I did nothing because it offended them and I was told to always be politcally correct."
Who's going to look out for the best interest of my grandchildren when our President is Asian, their teacher is Black, and their fellow classmates are a mixture of all the other races? Who's going to look out for the best interests of Whites then? Right now, society seems to have no problems with groups who support the advancement of Blacks, Hispanics, Natives, Asians, etc.......yet any group who advocates the advancement of Whites is labelled as racist.
Why is it that Whites are not allowed to stand up for themselves?

A point about eugenics, too, and supposed "genetic inferiority." Your beliefs are antiquated and erroneous -- inbreeding within a culture has long since been found to create a weaker gene pool. Strength lies in "hybridization" of various strains. It's in fact BETTER for evolution for us to be intermarrying. Get with the last 50 years of genetic research, will you?
What did you smoke before you wrote this???
There is more diversity in the White race than any other!
Blacks - Dark curly hair, dark skin, big lips, tall, slender
Asians - Tanned skin (more variation than Blacks), dark straight hair, slanted eyes, short, slender
Whites - many skin tones, many hair colours (brown, blonde, red, etc.), many different shapes and sizes

Whites are the only race you cannot apply a physical stereotype to because we are so diverse. The other races need diversity, not us. They are the ones who need to feed of our genes.
Globalisation, for instance, is going to continue. Cultures are going to continue to intermingle; multinational corporations are already becoming the norm. And in the streets you will surely find people who don't look like you, but whose families have perhaps been in your country for generations - people who, though they look different, are most certainly well ensconced in your country's overall culture. And this is going to continue. No matter how much you may want these "different people" out of your country - no matter how much you think the world would be a better place if they were gone - the world is an interactive place, and will remain so. Unless you mass exterminated everyone who didn't look like you, you will never be "rid" of these people you irrationally hate, these people who've done no less than you; these people who were merely born into a world already rife with racial politics.

So if multiculturalism isn't going to go away, what's the point of such a ridiculous and hate-filled stance? How is it going to make your life any better? All it's going to do is fill you with more intolerance, more hatred. How the hell do you hope to be happy, living with such disgust of your fellow man, or perhaps such a tremendous insecurity about yourself that you need to put down all who are different?

The world's changing; it's becoming yet more open-minded and welcoming of diversity. And it is the flexible reeds that survive the wind. How is your rigidity in this regard, despite the turning tides of the world, indicative of anything but genetic and social weakness in your upbringing, YOUR genes?

It is apathy like this that is allowing the mongrels to seize power.
Your advice to me is "Suck it up, you cant control the world around you!"
What if women had taken your advice at the turn of the century?
They still wouldnt have the right to vote.
What if Blacks had taken your advice?
They still wouldnt have any of the rights they do today.

Your advice is slightly....oh..how do I say? Hypocritical?

I am not filled with hate. I am filled with love. Myself, and all the other White Pride groups love our people as much as Black Pride groups love their people. Yet somehow, you perceive our love as hatred. We recognize that our people will cease to exist as a majority in the West within the next century and we dont want to see it happen.

In closing, you want me to sit back and let the world go to shit, while everyone else should try to enforce their ideals?
Come back and post something once you've got something intelligible to say.

Does your mother have no shame?
She's a disgrace to her beautiful Austrian heritage.
And as for you, yes you would be hung.
I cant have mongrels like you rallying against my goverments.

Dear, dear me. 1) The whites, and aryans, are a composite of Asian and African genes, so I feel you'll have to hang yourself too (oh, how very sad).

2) If you don't hang yourself, I'll simply save you the trouble. We fought a world war to keep your kind of animals out of power in Europe, and I'm damned if I'll let your kind get anywhere now. My motto? The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

The whites, and aryans, are a composite of Asian and African genes

I assume you still believe the "out of Africa theory"
READ A BOOK

How?

Exactly as I govern Parthia.

We recognize that our people will cease to exist as a majority in the West within the next century and we dont want to see it happen.


Looks like you have some fun choices then, cracker.

1. Inbreeding (the redneck solution)
2. Elimination of other genetypes (the nazi solution)
3. Outbreeding (the trailer park solution)
4. Suck It Up And Take It Like A Man (the option Hitler Boys will not take)

Tough world, huh?

Of course all that crap about "race" and "genes" is bullshit invented by the Jews as part of their racial superiority religion. Of course now every group has to be racially superior.

So many superior groups of people, i don't know who to look up to! I know, how about... ME! Yeah, if *I* invent something great for mankind, I will consider *my* genes successful. That makes more sense, and frankly has a lot more strength than OMG WE BOTH SHARE GENES CUZ WE R BOTH WHITE AND SUPERIOR AND ANYTHING HE DOES IS MY SUCCESS ALTHO ANYTHING HE DOES WRONG IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

This is where you are wrong. Non-Whites in America refuse to conform and be American. Hence why you have the suffix "-American" on the end of almost every race now.

Means nothing. I have friends who are British Indians, but they're as British as I. Only your twisted, half-blind world-view could attempt to turn that into an argument. In any case, I challenge you to define being American. Hitler couldn't do it with your beloved Nazi Germany, and I doubt that you will have any more success.

Look at the Black Panthers...they wanted to be as un-American as possible!
And their disgusting offspring, the NAACP wishes the same thing. They refuse to embrace the American way of life. They will not be working for my country, they'll be working for themselves, and to try to make their life better.

That's the American dream, mate. get rich off your own labour. These are more American than you, with all your "unified white community" rubbish.

In 40 years, when my White grandchildren come home from school and they're crying because they were beat up just for being White, what am I supposed to say? What do I tell them when they ask "Grandpa, what did you do to ty to stop this?" You want me to say "I did nothing because it offended them and I was told to always be politcally correct."

Likelihood of that is minute. The USA has a black mainority, and quite simply, for a minority to oppress the majority doesn't work for very long. False argument, fals premise, utter nonsense.

Who's going to look out for the best interest of my grandchildren when our President is Asian, their teacher is Black, and their fellow classmates are a mixture of all the other races? Who's going to look out for the best interests of Whites then? Right now, society seems to have no problems with groups who support the advancement of Blacks, Hispanics, Natives, Asians, etc.......yet any group who advocates the advancement of Whites is labelled as racist.
Why is it that Whites are not allowed to stand up for themselves?

Becuase whites have a history of being racist towards them. You're a product of that history, a primitive stuck in your little cave, looing out at the people with different skin and being too stupid to understand that they are you.

What did you smoke before you wrote this???
There is more diversity in the White race than any other!
Blacks - Dark curly hair, dark skin, big lips, tall, slender
Asians - Tanned skin (more variation than Blacks), dark straight hair, slanted eyes, short, slender
Whites - many skin tones, many hair colours (brown, blonde, red, etc.), many different shapes and sizes

Bollocks. You notice the variations in whites simply because you're brought up among them. You attempt to cover your own blind stupidity with a pathetic excuse for an argument, which doesn'ty actually prove anything anway, and which has no basis in fact, being grounded merely in supposition. Well done.

Whites are the only race you cannot apply a physical stereotype to because we are so diverse. The other races need diversity, not us. They are the ones who need to feed of our genes.

See above - load of arrogant Nazi rot with about as much factual basis as the book Earthfasts.

It is apathy like this that is allowing the mongrels to seize power.
Your advice to me is "Suck it up, you cant control the world around you!"
What if women had taken your advice at the turn of the century?
They still wouldnt have the right to vote.
What if Blacks had taken your advice?
They still wouldnt have any of the rights they do today.

Your advice is slightly....oh..how do I say? Hypocritical?

I am not filled with hate. I am filled with love. Myself, and all the other White Pride groups love our people as much as Black Pride groups love their people. Yet somehow, you perceive our love as hatred. We recognize that our people will cease to exist as a majority in the West within the next century and we dont want to see it happen.

In closing, you want me to sit back and let the world go to shit, while everyone else should try to enforce their ideals?
Come back and post something once you've got something intelligible to say.

I'd take that advice to heart yourself. Your "arguments" are nothing more than fallacies, propagated by white supremacists who still haven't managed to cram into their monumentally stupid heads that a different skin colour, a different bone structure, a different language does not mean inferiority. Nothing you say has any basis in actual facts, and all of your "facts" are utter fiction, the product of paranoid, ignorant white supremacist minds who need something to feed their ego and justify their poorness, their paucity of amenable or admirable qualities. I'm white, and people like you are the detritus of the white race, a dismal reversion to the era when humans clung to life within little shelters hewn from rock, too primitive to comprehend the fundamental similarity of all races. I'm just very glad that, for all your white supremacist ranting, you're never going to change the truth: the only "subhumans" here are you and your kind.

Looks like you have some fun choices then, cracker.

1. Inbreeding (the redneck solution)
2. Elimination of other genetypes (the nazi solution)
3. Outbreeding (the trailer park solution)
4. Suck It Up And Take It Like A Man (the option Hitler Boys will not take)


You forgot no breeding at all - my personal suggestion.

I assume you still believe the "out of Africa theory"
READ A BOOK

I suggest you read a book. So far most of the decent theorists I've come across (i.e. those who aren't Nazis) suggest that humans first evolved in Africa, spreading thereafter north and east into what was to become known as Mesopotamia and Asia. Whites came onto the scene comparatively late, probably due as much as anything else to the need to acclimatise a body evolved on the harsh, hot areas of the African continent to more northerly latitudes.

I suggest you read a book. So far most of the decent theorists I've come across (i.e. those who aren't Nazis) suggest that humans first evolved in Africa, spreading thereafter north and east into what was to become known as Mesopotamia and Asia. Whites came onto the scene comparatively late, probably due as much as anything else to the need to acclimatise a body evolved on the harsh, hot areas of the African continent to more northerly latitudes.

The first traces of human existence are found in Africa. However, if you believe that we all came from the same point, explain how our differences have become so great. And why are the first humans the slowest to evolve?
See, you are incorrect.
Each race is unique, and has its own unique history of evolution.
We are different.

In closing, you want me to sit back and let the world go to shit, while everyone else should try to enforce their ideals?
Come back and post something once you've got something intelligible to say.

Thank you for reading my post, at the very least. I will say only one more thing to you, because I knew coming into this that I wouldn't be able to change a whole lifetime of social upbringing and intolerance. I knew this and I expected no miracles, so I'm only very very sorry for you - sorry that people around you have brought you to feel this way. I can't change the way you think. In my country, Canada, it is illegal for people to gather (physically) to spread messages of hate like yours. However, I'm not here to call you an idiot, though I will still call you a hate monger, because you are.

I'll say only one more thing to you, and that is this:

Why the hell is it so hard to love without labels, without divisions of class, colour, gender, or creed? Why the hell is it so hard to embrace that we are all of us just human -- human, and nothing more?

Why the hell is it so hard to love without labels, without divisions of class, colour, gender, or creed? Why the hell is it so hard to embrace that we are all of us just human -- human, and nothing more?

Tell that to the NAACP and all the other groups who promote the advancement of "minorities"

to embrace the American way of life. They will not be working for my country, they'll be working for themselves, and to try to make their life better.

Along with every other American. You see, either you want them to work for themselves, or you are a COMMIE!

In 40 years, when my White grandchildren come home from school and they're crying because they were beat up just for being White, what am I supposed to say?.

No, My kids (or grandkids) will kick their butts cuz their granddaddy is a nazi. Treat people as you want to be treated - or treat them as they treat others.

What do I tell them when they ask "Grandpa, what did you do to ty to stop this?" You want me to say "I did nothing because it offended them and I was told to always be politcally correct."

No, I expect you to say that "I pissed off some people by being a nazi, which is one of the lowest forms of life on earth, and less intelligent than the HIV virus." And if you do, I will tell my kids to leave you alone - do not punish others for the sins of their father or mother.

Who's going to look out for the best interest of my grandchildren when our President is Asian, their teacher is Black, and their fellow classmates are a mixture of all the other races? Who's going to look out for the best interests of Whites then?.

They will get all the protection due a minority. Personally, seeing as you continually complain about minorities having too many rights, you should shut up before the ironic timing makes me hurt myself laughing. Lucky me, I live in a more accepting country.


Right now, society seems to have no problems with groups who support the advancement of Blacks, Hispanics, Natives, Asians, etc.......yet any group who advocates the advancement of Whites is labelled as racist.
Why is it that Whites are not allowed to stand up for themselves?
Your better than them, according to you. Deal with it.
What did you smoke before you wrote this???
There is more diversity in the White race than any other!
Blacks - Dark curly hair, dark skin, big lips, tall, slender
Asians - Tanned skin (more variation than Blacks), dark straight hair, slanted eyes, short, slender
Whites - many skin tones, many hair colours (brown, blonde, red, etc.), many different shapes and sizes.

You my friend, are indeed, as my Asian friend puts it, a "RACIST B4573RD" (leet speak is used only for consorship)
My asain friend is many times larger than me. One of my other Asain friends is smaller than me. One of my ahem, white friends is half asain. If you have something against asians, those two of my friends can easily trash your comp so bad that it will explode. They are much better than me with computers. But I am better at them in other things. And yet, another asain is better than me at something else. But who cares? They are better than me. I only care that they are better. I am still better than social degenerates. Of whom I know none in person. Actually I do know one. But he is white. Weird. And he is a homophobe. And you know what they say about homophobes.

It is apathy like this that is allowing the mongrels to seize power.

The problem with this is? Enlighten me. Even people like you occasionally have pearls of wisdom.

I am not filled with hate. I am filled with love. Myself, and all the other White Pride groups love our people as much as Black Pride groups love their people. Yet somehow, you perceive our love as hatred. We recognize that our people will cease to exist as a majority in the West within the next century and we dont want to see it happen.

First off, the white peoples (me included. I dont care about race.) will not be overpassed in population, especially in the states. You have love born of pride and arrogance, two of my worst sins. I am not proud of my race, nor am I arrogant becuase I am white. I am arrogant and proud because I have great skill in some areas. Such as not just calling you a "racist nazi pig who should be sent to a soviet gulag." The African-American people have a love born of reliance on each other during times of persacution. Persacution enforced by people like you.

In closing, you want me to sit back and let the world go to shit, while everyone else should try to enforce their ideals?

How will the word go to sh17 by letting non-white peoples have power?

Come back and post something once you've got something intelligible to say.

Huh. I was going to say that too you.

And btw, if this is an Ogiek level of satire, I am deeply sorry. But Ogiek was intelligent enough to let people see the hole in logic that pointed out his true argument.

I would:

(Uncreative things cut, mostly things to get rid of stagnation.)

Increase gun control, while increaseing gun ownership

Make everyone serve for at least 1 year on a government taskforce.
(thats only half a million people a year across the country. In canada that is)

Make politics a mandatory course before voting.

Create government owned, while not subsidized, companys that employ people on welfare. (as soon as they start going down the drain, they can only ask for 1/5 of the money they generate)

Harsher stance on crime

Beef up navy.

ban smoking of cigarettes on Canadian soil (you destroy land values)

Legalize non-smoking forms of pot. (meh, gonna happen anyways.)

Cut funding to welfare

Ban political parties, enable a Nunavut style of elections
(because you have no clue how that works)
Vote for non-partisan rep.
non-partisan reps elect PM + cabinet.
Then all legislation must pass through drafted citizens to be offical. This is a combination of direct democracy and representative.

As well, enable gay and poly marriges - it is none of our business. Although Poly will be checked to make sure that there is no coercion.

And of course, make a gold statue of myself. (using my security budget. I dont care about getting pied in the fact - all politicans are clowns anyways.)

I'd rule the US just like I rule Karas. Disolve Congress and install myself as president for life plus several weeks. (Just being president for life invites violent coups. Those extra weeks allow my murder to be killed before taking controll of the government.)

The law would be simple. Mandatory gun ownership and mandatory public nudity. Only a holster will be worn unless it is uncomfortably cold or dangerously sunny. Enviromentaly necessary clothing may be worn but must be removed witin climate controled buildings.

Free education for everyone. The government pays for college and graduate school. Decriminalized but heavily regulated recreational drugs.

I would make myself an absolute ruler and have myself crowned Shah with much celebration. I would appoint all of my NS allies as advisers and then go about fixing the economy by reducing restictions on buisnesses. Abortion would be banned except in cases where the life of the mother is endangered, and gun laws would be relaxed. Meanwhile, I would build up military forces and cut all entitlement programs (social security, medicare, medicaid, welfare, etc) and would cut income taxes and sales taxes. I would activley expand into other nations as colonies, and then launch a coup against the Islamic government of Iran using the CIA and have myself placed as Shah of Iran and America. With that accomplished, I would crack down on dissent in America using secret police and make troublemakers dissapear without problems. If people resist, I call in a well paid army to crush them. Violent criminals would be enslaved for their crimes and sold to corporations or executed by hanging. Torture would be legalized and used on enemies of my nation (including internal ones). Light drugs would be legalized (pot, booze, tobacco, etc.) but stronger ones would be illegal to sell (but not to possess).
The economy would drastically improve and the people would be safer because of these sensible reforms.

I would make myself an absolute ruler and have myself crowned Shah with much celebration. I would appoint all of my NS allies as advisers and then go about fixing the economy by reducing restictions on buisnesses. Abortion would be banned except in cases where the life of the mother is endangered, and gun laws would be relaxed. Meanwhile, I would build up military forces and cut all entitlement programs (social security, medicare, medicaid, welfare, etc) and would cut income taxes and sales taxes. I would activley expand into other nations as colonies, and then launch a coup against the Islamic government of Iran using the CIA and have myself placed as Shah of Iran and America. With that accomplished, I would crack down on dissent in America using secret police and make troublemakers dissapear without problems. If people resist, I call in a well paid army to crush them. Violent criminals would be enslaved for their crimes and sold to corporations or executed by hanging. Torture would be legalized and used on enemies of my nation (including internal ones). Light drugs would be legalized (pot, booze, tobacco, etc.) but stronger ones would be illegal to sell (but not to possess).
The economy would drastically improve and the people would be safer because of these sensible reforms.

Mr. President? Is that you? I thought the Secret Service men made it clear you weren't aloud onto your computer after bedtime...

The first traces of human existence are found in Africa. However, if you believe that we all came from the same point, explain how our differences have become so great. And why are the first humans the slowest to evolve?
See, you are incorrect.
Each race is unique, and has its own unique history of evolution.
We are different.

Ah, ignorance doth truly have her paragon in white supremacism. Humans are almost identical, no matter what their origin. Something like 99.99999999998 per cent of the human genome is identical in all races; the phenotype differences are utterly minute by comparison to the phenotype similarities. In addition, your contention that Africans are "the first humans" is in any case subject to debate (the possibility exist, for instance, that they migrated north and then back south at a later date), and your definition of evolution (as well as being totally incorrect; evolution is change within a species, not technological achievement) is a highly subjective and totally useless one, at least if like me you wish to make an intelligent assessment of the human race's history, and not simply spout racist verbiage with the aim of somehow reversing the inevitable march of facts.

Parthia: Your country would exist for at most a century, and then collapse. The odds of an affluent nation remaining in such a state, when there is an educated(ish) and historically independent population to control is minute. In addition, total privatisation does not improve the economy, nor does it lead to greater chances of long-terms survival for your little totalitarian regime. Try learning some history.

Parthia: Your country would exist for at most a century, and then collapse. The odds of an affluent nation remaining in such a state, when there is an educated(ish) and historically independent population to control is minute. In addition, total privatisation does not improve the economy, nor does it lead to greater chances of long-terms survival for your little totalitarian regime. Try learning some history.


I won't have an educated population, public schools would be abolished.

h. take over Canada and make it against the law to speak anything but English.

You realize Canadians own alot of guns and there would be a gun behind every snowdrift, right? :mp5:

I'd make Canada look pretty much like my NS country, except with only 30 million people.

In that case, your economy ceases to function. Can't have it both ways - either you have an uneducated, apathetic, oppressible workforce and a poor, subsustence-based economy or you educate your workers, making them far harder to control and delude but improving your economy. Pretending that it works to do it both ways isn't going to resolve that little problem.

I'd make him the president:
http://img144.exs.cx/img144/1245/chupathingy5zz.png

I made that.

Chupathingy: President

lol auto industry: Vice president

VOTE Chupathingy/Auto Industry IN 2008!
Demorepublicraticans for a better tomorrow.

I am not filled with hate. I am filled with love. Myself, and all the other White Pride groups love our people as much as Black Pride groups love their people. Yet somehow, you perceive our love as hatred. We recognize that our people will cease to exist as a majority in the West within the next century and we dont want to see it happen.
Hmm?
So killing another for their heritage is "love"?
Hmm, odd power games...
You have love for yourself and those who agree with you.

In that case, your economy ceases to function. Can't have it both ways - either you have an uneducated, apathetic, oppressible workforce and a poor, subsustence-based economy or you educate your workers, making them far harder to control and delude but improving your economy. Pretending that it works to do it both ways isn't going to resolve that little problem.

How about a well paid elite ruling over a bunch of uneducated workers like in 1890s America?

How about a well paid elite ruling over a bunch of uneducated workers like in 1890s America?
4 words: Uprisings due to greviances.

After using the geeks best friend (:)) and looking at it, I can see a problem with it...

"The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state"

Two senators from each state gives unfair power to states with smaller populations, while larger states get unfair representation. Just hazarding a guess, but I think that may be what he's referring to.

That's why we also have the House of Representatives, which goes by population.

4 words: Uprisings due to greviances.

Might I add, also low productivity due to frequent strikes resulting in economic collapse. Examples of such great dissatisfaction include the Russian revolution, the General Strike of 1926, the French revolution...doesn't work.

With the best form of government yet tried on earth - that of scandinavia.

Sweet!

A feudal state of warrior-shaman landlords whose peasantry are entirely dependant on their good graces and a system of law based entirely on how many people you can get to help you kill people who piss you off. Exactly how I want to live :)

...Oh, you meant modern Scandenavia, didn't you? :(

OOC:I feel like alerting the mods to this 'Hitler Jugend' guy... and this thread in general.

OOC:I feel like alerting the mods to this 'Hitler Jugend' guy... and this thread in general.
Hrm, some of what he says could be construed as flaming, if the mods so felt like it.

OOC:I feel like alerting the mods to this 'Hitler Jugend' guy... and this thread in general.
I've thought about it. He's entitled to his opinion, but he has advocated violence against other groups on several occassions.

4 words: Uprisings due to greviances.

Meh, I'd put them down brutally enough to prevent that.

You've never studied, I can see. All history points out that consistent, harsh oppression only builds greater dissatisfaction. Totalitarian regimes never last, because they seldom if ever have the majority of popular support - and even if they do at the outset, it soon becomes the case that their repression makes them unpopular beyond belief.

I would let the adult population of my country just do whatever they want as long as it did not infringe on the rights of others. This means legalising all drugs, all forms of sex and marriage between consenting adults, abortion, etc.

I would regulate business just enough to make sure that they didn't screw people around.

I would get rid of trade tarriffs and most other protectionist measures.

Education, environmental protection and healthcare would receive most funding, with a minimal amount of social welfare.

kick out all foreigners. everyone speaks american. no trucks, suvs or big vans. no skateboarding. Criminals are hung upside-down untill they pass out from the blood rushing to his brain.
Let me guess, you're a Sinn Fein member.

"How would YOU rule your (RL) country?"

By immediately resigning in favor of someone better qualified. :)

a.I'd attack France. I mean, what are they going to do, defend themselves?
b. Wipe North Korea off the planet with a few nukes as an example to the rest of the world.
c. Make abortion illegal
d. Make Homosexuality illegal
e. Dig a big canal between US and Mexico and fill it full of sharks and pirannas.
f. Make illegal imigrants punishable by death
g. Cut off all trade with socialist countries and even the ones who claim their not.
h. take over Canada and make it against the law to speak anything but English.
I. Make groups such as the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, NAACP, NOW, and AARP illegal under the laws of treason and sedation
J. Do away with Welfare
K. Give the Lefties their own little satalite country in Montanta and make it illegal to visit or leave.
Wow, your version of the USA sounds like hell.

How refreshing to see the Right's agenda laid out so honestly - unprovoked war, elimination of civil liberties, brutal repression of ideological enemies, xenophobia, prejudice and discrimination.
To be fair, I think Belew is an extremist rather than the norm.

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12. Model my government after that of say, Sweden.
They're one of the best governments in the world, but they're not perfect. They restrict freedom of speech and are too socialist IMO.

I am not filled with hate. I am filled with love.
How can you admire a man who deliberately killed over 20 million people and claim to be filled with love?

Bump. I really want to see HJ's response to my post. Unless he was banned, in which case, what took you soo long?

About the same way I manage my company - and enjoy annual 30% growth no matter whether people say there is a recession or not.

Basically encourage participation and criticism - but who criticises shall make things better.

i refuse to answer this thread, sorry, it would start world war three, just ask the people over in the honesty thread.
justthought i would let everyone in on that.

Look who's stalking who.

lets just have a club. lets make the dues real harsh though....

The government would have very few jobs.
1) Forigne relations. Naturaly, the government would be responsible for international deplomacy, the use of the military, and other such things.
2) Public Safety. This includes police, fire departments, and assureing food, drug, and water purity.
3) Education. This could probably be left to the local governments at that.
4) Minor regulations on banks with the sole purpose of avoiding the abuses that lead to the Great Depression.

Local millitias would be legaly armed with whatever they are capable of geting their hands on, excludeing Nuclear, and biological weapons, which shouldn't be used in any area that you are close to anyways.

Minimal government assures that the cost of haveing the government is low and you can tax what is neccessary to fund it(IE: No deficit spending) without overburdening your populace or economy.

I'd rule my country like I plan to one day rule the world-With an iron fist...

1. Death penalty for any crime, and screw your morals. Any who argue die too.

2. Urban and hip-hop music banned, under pain of death, it all sounds the fucking same anyway.

3. Armed guards at schools ensure total obedience-or they die.

4. I will rule by fear-the way governments truly work.

5. Oh yes, and I will nuke the middile east, to end all this winging. As long as I have power, I don't care who I kill.

How can you admire a man who deliberately killed over 20 million people and claim to be filled with love?

Where in God's name are you getting your facts from?
Hitler didn't deliberately kill 20 million people, nor did he deliberately kill 6 million Jews.
Read a book.

How will the word go to sh17 by letting non-white peoples have power?

Ok, you're question is easy to answer.
All it requires are a set of working eyes.
Look around the world at the third-world countries.
See any Whites?

I've thought about it. He's entitled to his opinion, but he has advocated violence against other groups on several occassions.
To which groups have I advocated violence against?
So killing another for their heritage is "love"?
How did you get that from what I said.
You seem determined to put words in my mouth.

How did you get that from what I said.
You seem determined to put words in my mouth.
Ah, I misread. I thought you said you loved blacks as much as yourself, when you really said you loved yourself as much as blacks love themselves. Sorry about that.

Ok, you're question is easy to answer.
All it requires are a set of working eyes.
Look around the world at the third-world countries.
See any Whites?

No. But then, they seem to have some really bad land - ie. desert. And its not like they started out with a fully funtioning economy, they only had what they needed to survive, so when it came crashing down they become very hungry.

Bah, its to early here for arguing with nazis.

The way I run my parent country (Sarzonia) is mostly how I would run the U.S.

I would have the U.S. pursue a non-intervention policy with other countries' internal affairs except in the case of genocide. I would aim to use more negotiating and economic consequences in lieu of military actions; however, I would also bolster the national defense and I would encourage companies that build American military equipment to build for quality rather than sheer quantity. A lot of American miliary equipment, ships, etc. are absolute jokes. I might even have the DoD purchase foreign-built ships and subtly tell our shipbuilders to get their acts together or they'll lose the Navy as a customer. My military doctrine is (in clean terms): You don't deter would-be enemies by disarmament. You deter them my intimidation. But I would also work toward building a coalition unlike George W. Bush.

I would work toward reducing the abuse of welfare by establishing a strict deadline for welfare recipients to receive benefits. I would reduce income taxes by four percent on people in middle-middle class income tax brackets or lower and I would increase taxes on the upper middle class by two percent. The upper classes would receive graduated increases, up to eight percent of their incomes. I would also evaluate programs to see where they could be cut to enhance a leaner and meaner philosophy.

I would campaign stenuously against the Federal Marriage Admendment making its way through Congress and I would push Congress to let people live their lives without fear of interfering in their bedrooms.

I would:

7)Return all illegal immigrants to their respective countries, but legal ones could stayHere's one I agree with. :p

If people want in to the U.S., let them go through legal channels.

9)Do away with income taxation, the IRS, and the Federal ReserveI think that'd cause an enormous problem of figuring out where revenue would come from if you don't draw it from an income tax.

11)Break up the Department of Defense into the Departments of War, the Navy, and the Air ForceI assume that means the Department of War would then be the army. I liked the prestige the Navy had when it was its own Cabinet level position. Of course, I'm a Navy buff as anyone who reads my RPs might be able to figure out, but that's another story.

Wow. No-one gave a shit over my evil policies (Last post of prev. page)

Excellent... :D

I would begin by respecting the opinions of all groups, excep are those that are different to mine.

How refreshing to see the Right's agenda laid out so honestly - unprovoked war, elimination of civil liberties, brutal repression of ideological enemies, xenophobia, prejudice and discrimination.

Especially refreshing to see them call themselves "Christian".

Especially refreshing to see them call themselves "Christian".
People who advocate the extremist policies that Belew does surely cannot be Christian!