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Fact: there is not one single shred of proper legal evidence that this man won either the 2000 or the 2004 US Presidential election:

http://www.gwbushimpersonator.com/images/BrentClapping.jpg

Fact: there is not one single shred of proper legal evidence that this man won either the 2000 or the 2004 US Presidential election:

http://www.gwbushimpersonator.com/images/BrentClapping.jpg

Saying something like without arguements is rather stupid. Explain yourself.

That's not George Bush.

Fact: there is not one single shred of proper legal evidence that this man won either the 2000 or the 2004 US Presidential election:

http://www.gwbushimpersonator.com/images/BrentClapping.jpg

:D

Of course he didn't.

Even the link says gwbushimpersonator

Saying something like without arguements is rather stupid. Explain yourself.

It is a fact. Present me with links to evidence to the contrary if you don't believe me.

Its a riddle! Because that guy just looks slightly like George W. Bush! This guy is just an imposter and never became president, so of course he didnt!

It is a fact. Present me with links to evidence to the contrary if you don't believe me.

Your the one who made the claim. You present evidence.

EDIT

If he is an imposter, he's a good one.

Whether or not that was true in 2004 will never be known. But both sides should be wary of electronic voting that has no paper trail.

That's not George Bush.

Well, that didn't last long...

It is a fact. Present me with links to evidence to the contrary if you don't believe me.
This is hilarious...you present a fact in a manner which people consider to be inflammatory:). I love it!

Well, that didn't last long...
Give it time...

Yeah! That guy is a fraud! He's no president! Down with him!

That isn't Bush, so you are right, he didn't win the election. If you are refering to Bush and that is just a bad picture of him, then explain why you think there is no shred of evidence that he didn't win the election.

Well, that didn't last long...
The clue in the link was a little obvious. (Nice, though. ;) )

Your the one who made the claim. You present evidence.

No, I was claiming that there was no evidence.

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If he is an imposter, he's a good one.

Something about the forehead isn't quite right.

is it hot in here, oir is it just me? :D

Ok, I think it is so obvious that Bush stole the election, will anyone protest or riot? Hell no! Noone can know, there is no paper trail, thats why he needed to use computers think of it! He betrayed everyone by saying it will help people.

Well this is the first time we have had two elected people who havent served for one minute in office. Someone needs to invent a time machine, go to the hospital where he was born, kill him by sufficating him and say he was born with something from the woom stuck in his throat, or strangle him with the umbillicle cord, because that happens sometimes.

Ok, I think it is so obvious that Bush stole the election, will anyone protest or riot? Hell no! Noone can know, there is no paper trail, thats why he needed to use computers think of it!
Not you again....

Not you again....

Oh dang, its me, the guy that presses the issues.

This thread is looking for trouble. :eek:

Oh dang, its me, the guy that presses the issues.

Oh dang! Its the guy who says something, but than admits he has no proof of it! Oh dangity dang!

is it hot in here, oir is it just me? :D

Its you, you're in So. California.

Oh dang! Its the guy who says something, but than admits he has no proof of it! Oh dangity dang!

Name one instance of that occurance.

Hey! That is Brent clapping! ANd Bysh didn't use electronics 1234554321, he used mind contryl. Dumb dumb, Bysh is an ancient demon from the AGRARIAN race coming back to avenge the ruthless assault we humans had on him back when humans had mind control.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/06/gore.bush.01/link.john.kerry.ap.jpg


that guy did not win the U.S. election in 2000 or 2004

http://img99.exs.cx/img99/4544/modevilbig7zi.jpg

This guy certainly didn't win the US elections in 2000 or 2004.

Hey! That is Brent clapping! ANd Bysh didn't use electronics 1234554321, he used mind contryl. Dumb dumb, Bysh is an ancient demon from the AGRARIAN race coming back to avenge the ruthless assault we humans had on him back when humans had mind control.

Of course! It all adds up! Think about it, the guy is always in church, if god is out to get him he wouldnt bother checking his own doorstep. OMG, Bush is t3h 3v1l S4t4n!!!!!!!!!11111111one1!1one!11 That would explain why he made the hail lucifer sign at the Texas Longhorns game, he than said he was hailing the Longhorns not Lucifer! And everyone else in his administration are obviously satanists, esp. Rumsfeld and Cheney!

Ok, I think it is so obvious that Bush stole the election, will anyone protest or riot? Hell no! Noone can know, there is no paper trail, thats why he needed to use computers think of it!

You just admited theres no proof. So you can present an iota of proof to your ideas, or you can ramble about people protesting. I could have said that Hoovers plan with the Agricultural Loans was to try and make Farmers rich, but what evidence do I have besides the action itself?

Fact: there is not one single shred of proper legal evidence that this man won either the 2000 or the 2004 US Presidential election:

http://www.gwbushimpersonator.com/images/BrentClapping.jpg


i thin that any person with an eye could tell that thats not really bush. if you look its not. dont believe me? then go find a real picture of him

This guy certainly did not win the election...

http://nickdisk.co.uk/images/framegrabs/dougnickidents/oldnickbumper_doug04.jpg

Of course! It all adds up! Think about it, the guy is always in church, if god is out to get him he wouldnt bother checking his own doorstep. OMG, Bush is t3h 3v1l S4t4n!!!!!!!!!11111111one1!1one!11 That would explain why he made the hail lucifer sign at the Texas Longhorns game, he than said he was hailing the Longhorns not Lucifer! And everyone else in his administration are obviously satanists, esp. Rumsfeld and Cheney!


learn to write please.
these are not words in any lanuage: t3h 3v1l S4t4n!!!!!!!!!11111111one1!1one!11
and how are they stanists?, is it because they arent the people you want in washington?

You just admited theres no proof. So you can present an iota of proof to your ideas, or you can ramble about people protesting. I could have said that Hoovers plan with the Agricultural Loans was to try and make Farmers rich, but what evidence do I have besides the action itself?

What is your name? What proof do you have? What color is your car? What proof do you have?

You cant say bs like that.

This guy certainly did not win the election...

http://nickdisk.co.uk/images/framegrabs/dougnickidents/oldnickbumper_doug04.jpg

Didn't he win an election back in the '80s? :)

learn to write please.
these are not words in any lanuage: t3h 3v1l S4t4n!!!!!!!!!11111111one1!1one!11
and how are they stanists?, is it because they arent the people you want in washington?

Think of it, they send young people to their deaths, and give them minimal armor, and have you seen the way they look? Plus they use fear tactics to get their people to vote for them.

Didn't he win an election back in the '80s? :)

Probably, I think he was elected CEO of the Honkerburger.

Ok, I think it is so obvious that Bush stole the election, will anyone protest or riot? Hell no! Noone can know, there is no paper trail, thats why he needed to use computers think of it! He betrayed everyone by saying it will help people.

Well this is the first time we have had two elected people who havent served for one minute in office. Someone needs to invent a time machine, go to the hospital where he was born, kill him by sufficating him and say he was born with something from the woom stuck in his throat, or strangle him with the umbillicle cord, because that happens sometimes.


again with the spelling: womb is spelled like that.
and bush served in office he was governor of texas. and he served in the military the national guard is part of the military

What is your name? What proof do you have? What color is your car? What proof do you have?

You cant say bs like that.
Yes, I can.
"bs like that."
:D
No, in all seriousness, you seem to have just validated his/her point.

[QUOTE=Stuependousland]learn to write please.
these are not words in any lanuage: t3h 3v1l S4t4n!!!!!!!!!11111111one1!1one!11
and how are they stanists?, is it because they arent the people you want in washington?[/QUOTE/]

No they are words and they are spelled correctly.

again with the spelling: womb is spelled like that.
and bush served in office he was governor of texas. and he served in the military the national guard is part of the military

Oh yeah, remember all those stories of Bushs heroism in the National Gaurd? I think it went something like; He was suspended for never showing up and not following orders, but mission accomplished for Mr. Bush, he got out of the draft!

Think of it, they send young people to their deaths, and give them minimal armor, and have you seen the way they look? Plus they use fear tactics to get their people to vote for them.


ok people die in a war, they are protecting the country and they signed up for it ao they obviously want to do it and if they dont its their problem.
you try goin through that much stress and not lokin tired or angry or maybe try loving your country and not being angry about terrorists.
and what fear tactics?

Ok I dont want to hate this president, I tried to find the good things he has done, but unfortunately he hasnt done anything good.

Oh yeah, remember all those stories of Bushs heroism in the National Gaurd? I think it went something like; He was suspended for never showing up and not following orders, but mission accomplished for Mr. Bush, he got out of the draft!


if your goin by the cbs reports those were proven to be false and the cbs personal apologized and admitted they were hasty

Ok I dont want to hate this president, I tried to find the good things he has done, but unfortunately he hasnt done anything good.
That sounds like a bit of an exaggeration...

Ok I dont want to hate this president, I tried to find the good things he has done, but unfortunately he hasnt done anything good.


ok so protecting your freedom isnt good?

ok people die in a war, they are protecting the country and they signed up for it ao they obviously want to do it and if they dont its their problem.
you try goin through that much stress and not lokin tired or angry or maybe try loving your country and not being angry about terrorists.
and what fear tactics?

I forgot about the 0 terrorists from Iraq! Great point, what fear tactics??

How about Rummy saying watch out for toy plains packed with explosives, Cheney saying buy ducttape and gas masks, and watch out for poison shooting pens. Than Laura Bush saying, thanks to good Republican leaders in the past we dont need to hide under desks like in the 50's.

Yeah not hiding under desks, now they have ducttape and the defcon board, desks! What were we thinking?

[QUOTE=Stuependousland]learn to write please.
these are not words in any lanuage: t3h 3v1l S4t4n!!!!!!!!!11111111one1!1one!11
and how are they stanists?, is it because they arent the people you want in washington?[/QUOTE/]

No they are words and they are spelled correctly.


how are those words: t3h 3v1l S4t4n!!!!!!!!!11111111one1!1one!11 ?

ok people die in a war, they are protecting the country and they signed up for it ao they obviously want to do it and if they dont its their problem.
you try goin through that much stress and not lokin tired or angry or maybe try loving your country and not being angry about terrorists.
and what fear tactics?

Have you deliberately missed the fact that both campaigns in the middle east proved to be unsuccesful in all fronts, and thus omitting not less important part of "there were no WMD in Iraq nor their leaders were connected to Al-Qaida"?

I forgot about the 0 terrorists from Iraq! Great point, what fear tactics??

How about Rummy saying watch out for toy plains packed with explosives, Cheney saying buy ducttape and gas masks, and watch out for poison shooting pens. Than Laura Bush saying, thanks to good Republican leaders in the past we dont need to hide under desks like in the 50's.

Yeah not hiding under desks, now they have ducttape and the defcon board, desks! What were we thinking?


ok buddy you prove that they said those things and ill concede
but uhh its been proven by more than just the u.s. that there were terrorists in iraq training

ok so protecting your freedom isnt good?

Did you know that I know dont like saying the words "freedom, terrorists, Jesus or God" because Bush says them so much. He is not promoting freedom, in fact he says he is against Socialism, yet in Spain they had a Conserv. govt. but there trains were blown up by terrorists angry about Spain supporting the Iraq war, this was three days before an election, Spain chose a Socialist govt. who stopped the fighting in Iraq.

What is your name? What proof do you have? What color is your car? What proof do you have?

You cant say bs like that.

Yes I can, do not hide if you cant back yourself up. The Burden of Proof is on you. You either explain it or dont, if you dont you have no evidence and what you say is foolish, P.S. If you want evidence, I think this site www.blackboxvoting.com or something like that has evidence and debates on this certain subject. (I picked it up during a debate in a liberal chat.)

Think of it, they send young people to their deaths, and give them minimal armor, and have you seen the way they look? Plus they use fear tactics to get their people to vote for them.
Young people to their deaths? What!?!? You can talk about what ever you want, but dont talk about War when you know nothing about it.

ok buddy you prove that they said those things and ill concede
but uhh its been proven by more than just the u.s. that there were terrorists in iraq training

Watch Feirenheit 9/11 it has Rummy and Cheney saying those things. Now I know you dont trust Michael Moore, but how could he change what they said? It has live news reports and them actually saying that. About Laura Bush, watch the Republican national Convention again.

Have you deliberately missed the fact that both campaigns in the middle east proved to be unsuccesful in all fronts, and thus omitting not less important part of "there were no WMD in Iraq nor their leaders were connected to Al-Qaida"?


about the al qaida they were proven to have training camps in iraq.
and there are satellite photos of trucks that are believed to have wmds on them crossing i think it was the syrian border before the atacks.
and how were the campaigns unsuccessful?

Young people to their deaths? What!?!? You can talk about what ever you want, but dont talk about War when you know nothing about it.

Oh my mistake, I forgot that all the soldiers were 80 and not young at all!

Have you deliberately missed the fact that both campaigns in the middle east proved to be unsuccesful in all fronts, and thus omitting not less important part of "there were no WMD in Iraq nor their leaders were connected to Al-Qaida"?

Unsucessful? It depends on how you gauge a wars success, theres the old WWII way which is by miles and the Vietnam way which is by body count. Plus, unsuccessful in all fronts? Thats funny.

Watch Feirenheit 9/11 it has Rummy and Cheney saying those things. Now I know you dont trust Michael Moore, but how could he change what they said? It has live news reports and them actually saying that. About Laura Bush, watch the Republican national Convention again.


ok uh there are technological inventions called dubbers that can change things like that.
and uh farenheit 9/11 also is a very biased opinion of bush and the government? and if michael moore hates it so much in america why doesnt he just leave, oh i know its cause he wouldnt be able to say those things without undeniable proof in any other country

about the al qaida they were proven to have training camps in iraq.
and there are satellite photos of trucks that are believed to have wmds on them crossing i think it was the syrian border before the atacks.
and how were the campaigns unsuccessful?

Those photos were said to be trucks carrying WMDs, who said it? Colin Powell! He later admitted he was wrong!

about the al qaida they were proven to have training camps in iraq.
and there are satellite photos of trucks that are believed to have wmds on them crossing i think it was the syrian border before the atacks.
and how were the campaigns unsuccessful?

Those photos were said to be trucks carrying WMDs, who said it? Colin Powell! He later admitted he was wrong!

about the al qaida they were proven to have training camps in iraq.
and there are satellite photos of trucks that are believed to have wmds on them crossing i think it was the syrian border before the atacks.
and how were the campaigns unsuccessful?

Those photos were said to be trucks carrying WMDs, who said it? Colin Powell! He later admitted he was wrong!

about the al qaida they were proven to have training camps in iraq.
and there are satellite photos of trucks that are believed to have wmds on them crossing i think it was the syrian border before the atacks.
and how were the campaigns unsuccessful?

Those photos were said to be trucks carrying WMDs, who said it? Colin Powell! He later admitted he was wrong!

about the al qaida they were proven to have training camps in iraq.
and there are satellite photos of trucks that are believed to have wmds on them crossing i think it was the syrian border before the atacks.
and how were the campaigns unsuccessful?

Those photos were said to be trucks carrying WMDs, who said it? Colin Powell! He later admitted he was wrong!

about the al qaida they were proven to have training camps in iraq.
and there are satellite photos of trucks that are believed to have wmds on them crossing i think it was the syrian border before the atacks.
and how were the campaigns unsuccessful?

Those photos were said to be trucks carrying WMDs, who said it? Colin Powell! He later admitted he was wrong!

Oh my mistake, I forgot that all the soldiers were 80 and not young at all!

You dont know anything about it. War is war, if it were a draft, I would disagree with you but not be angry and tell you to shut it. This is voluntary war, you never engage unless you expect the same. When you draw your weapon in an attempt to kill, you expect the same from your enemy. If you dont want to die, or dont want it to be left to a chance of this nature, you dont join up. This is what people never understand.

about the al qaida they were proven to have training camps in iraq.
and there are satellite photos of trucks that are believed to have wmds on them crossing i think it was the syrian border before the atacks.
and how were the campaigns unsuccessful?

Unsuccesful, they have failed to bring "democracy" to either of those countries; they did bring death, destruction and more uncertainty about life to that people. On other level, the greatest machine of war of all times have failed to stop the "insurgency", and there is a climate of unrest there very much prone to civil war.

Wether Bush truly thinks himself as a cowboy crusader or he is just a puppet for other people's interests, in the end the only people who will die, are normal citizens of the world like you and me.

Unsuccesful, they have failed to bring "democracy" to either of those countries; they did bring death, destruction and more uncertainty about life to that people. On other level, the greatest machine of war of all times have failed to stop the "insurgency", and there is a climate of unrest there very much prone to civil war.

Wether Bush truly thinks himself as a cowboy crusader or he is just a puppet for other people's interests, in the end the only people who will die, are normal citizens of the world like you and me.

Have you ever thought the "Insurgency" Was guerilla warfare.....?

Those photos were said to be trucks carrying WMDs, who said it? Colin Powell! He later admitted he was wrong!


where do you get your info?

Those photos were said to be trucks carrying WMDs, who said it? Colin Powell! He later admitted he was wrong!

Ok, the Forum has been a little weird today, so before I accuse you of spam, was that your internet messing up or....?

Whether or not that was true in 2004 will never be known. But both sides should be wary of electronic voting that has no paper trail.
Ant that the man who made the machines said that Bush would win, no matter what. The machines should at least be subject to very thorough examination.

Of course *he* didn't win - 'BrentClapping.jpg' wasn't a candidate

Unsuccesful, they have failed to bring "democracy" to either of those countries; they did bring death, destruction and more uncertainty about life to that people. On other level, the greatest machine of war of all times have failed to stop the "insurgency", and there is a climate of unrest there very much prone to civil war.

Wether Bush truly thinks himself as a cowboy crusader or he is just a puppet for other people's interests, in the end the only people who will die, are normal citizens of the world like you and me.


yo they are not normal people they are people who love their country and signed up to defend it

Ant that the man who made the machines said that Bush would win, no matter what. The machines should at least be subject to very thorough examination.


stop complaining about the votes kerry ceded and its over

Have you ever thought the "Insurgency" Was guerilla warfare.....?

Yes, Vietnam isn't it? but they still rammed there way into that country. Your question, should be a rocker if you ask it to the right people

Yes, Vietnam isn't it? but they still rammed there way into that country. Your question, should be a rocker if you ask it to the right people

No Vietnam was different, in this war we can attack an area where the guerillas are being trained, while in Vietnam we couldnt attack Cambodia, plus Guerilla warfare is very hard to topple a regime with, you need a main army to come in and finish the job after the guerillas have weakened the country. Iraq has no main army. Plus Guerilla warfare in Iraq isnt as desperate as it was in Vietnam, in Vietnam the jungle made Guerilla warfare oppurtunities(sp?), much greater and much eaiser to accomplish while Iraq is basically the exact opposite, its a broad barren wasteland, except for the cities.

But the fact remains, Guerilla warfare is the hardest to fight, but not the best option to try and topple a regime.

No Vietnam was different, in this war we can attack an area where the guerillas are being trained, while in Vietnam we couldnt attack Cambodia...

Check your facts. The USA did bomb Cambodia.

Check your facts. The USA did bomb Cambodia.

Not conventially(sp? again), and it definatly was a "too little, too late" kind of thing. Nixon did secret Christmas bombings, which was great, but we shoulda did it beforehand and did it so hard we blew the shit out of the enemy.

Hahahaaha. Actually GW did win, I don't like the man either, but I like Kerry even less. Also, George in office won both the electoral and populars, whether or not the election results would have been different if Kerry had waited until Ohio's votes came out it still wouldn't have let him win. Just face it, Democrats lost Republicans won. No biggy just wait until 2008 when hopefully we have better canidates.

Hahahaaha. Actually GW did win, I don't like the man either, but I like Kerry even less. Also, George in office won both the electoral and populars, whether or not the election results would have been different if Kerry had waited until Ohio's votes came out it still wouldn't have let him win. Just face it, Democrats lost Republicans won. No biggy just wait until 2008 when hopefully we have better canidates.
I pray for McCain, hes one of the few in Congress who tries to stop Pork Barreling.

Not conventially(sp? again), and it definatly was a "too little, too late" kind of thing.

If it was non-conventional bombing, then what was it? - you obviously don't mean nuclear.

Nixon did secret Christmas bombings, which was great, but we shoulda did it beforehand and did it so hard we blew the shit out of the enemy.

It went on for over a year.

If it was non-conventional bombing, then what was it? - you obviously don't mean nuclear.



It went on for over a year.

I didnt mean it like that, I meant Conventionally by the millitary standards of the time, which was politics getting involved in the military.(I know the President is Political, but he is the Commander-In-Chief and doesnt normally use political bias in his military descions and when passing down military orders he ususally leaves it to the military to decide how to do it.)

I didnt live in the Time Period so Im a little sketchy on it, forgive me for any mistakes I make.

I didnt live in the Time Period so Im a little sketchy on it, forgive me for any mistakes I make.

I forgive mistakes, but you have to realise that your parallel between Iraq and Vietnam has just broken down as a result.

I forgive mistakes, but you have to realise that your parallel between Iraq and Vietnam has just broken down as a result.

Not all of it though. Only the Cambodia part.

Not all of it though. Only the Cambodia part.

I'll grant you that they have their similarities: even after the fact it remains unclear exactly what the US really hoped to achieve by either of them, and the possibility remains that the interventions in each were based on fundamentally flawed ideas held by those in power at the time.

Ok, I think it is so obvious that Bush stole the election, will anyone protest or riot? Hell no! Noone can know, there is no paper trail, thats why he needed to use computers think of it! He betrayed everyone by saying it will help people.

Alright, first the butterfly ballot is too damned complicated for you democrats, and now voting is too easy. Make up your mind.

I'll grant you that they have their similarities: even after the fact it remains unclear exactly what the US really hoped to achieve by either of them, and the possibility remains that the interventions in each were based on fundamentally flawed ideas held by those in power at the time.

The parallel I draw with Viet Nam and the current war in Iraq can arguably be contributed to World War II as well. Americans will not go to war unless they feel that they themselves are threatened. Iraq WMD's and 9/11 confusion = Gulf of Tonkin Resolution = Pearl Harbor, for the sake of this argument stating that FDR knew ahead of time.

As far as the goals, I think the goal in Iraq is pretty straightforward: Take out Saddam, establish democracy. However the means and the actual achievement of those goals is where the lack of clarity remains.

No evidence except the votes. Pwned.

No evidence except the votes. Pwned.

Incorrect.

Fact: there is not one single shred of proper legal evidence that this man won either the 2000 or the 2004 US Presidential election:

http://www.gwbushimpersonator.com/images/BrentClapping.jpg

And you're just figuring this out? :D

He's STILL not my president.

FACT: Election Exit Polls were NEVER WRONG until the eletions of 2000, the first use of electronic voting machines(coincidence?)
FACT: Diebold, the company prodcuing said voting machines, also makes atm's. when you use of of their atm's you get a reciept for EVERYTHING YOU DO, yet the voting machines they produce have no such reciept or anything close to it, so you have to trust the machines, which can easily be tampered with: http://www.chuckherrin.com/hackthevote.htm

Fear tactics?: http://www.bushflash.com/quicktime/gop.mov

oh and I won the election so ha!

I can't believe people are still going on about this, he looks nothing like Dubya at all.

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