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Who needs an environment anyway?

Drunk commies
25-01-2005, 19:19
Screw it. We'll adapt. We have technology. There's like 6 billion of us. It's not like global warming and other environmental threats are going to make us go extinct.
So what if drilling for oil destroys a wild ecosystem? It's not like that will ruin anyone's livelyhood. At least nobody important.
Sinuhue
25-01-2005, 19:20
Screw it. We'll adapt. We have technology. There's like 6 billion of us. It's not like global warming and other environmental threats are going to make us go extinct.
So what if drilling for oil destroys a wild ecosystem? It's not like that will ruin anyone's livelyhood. At least nobody important.
Flame flame, flame. There, you got the response you wanted:).
Nsendalen
25-01-2005, 19:29
Screw it. We'll adapt. We have technology. There's like 6 billion of us. It's not like global warming and other environmental threats are going to make us go extinct.
So what if drilling for oil destroys a wild ecosystem? It's not like that will ruin anyone's livelyhood. At least nobody important.

*nods*

Everyone! Listen to this man!

*takes over NASA while everyone's distracted and flees in a FTL ship*
Hurdegaryp
25-01-2005, 19:38
"We have technology"... funny. It's not like we can control the weather or avoid a new Ice Age. But eh, what else can you expect from somebody whose sexual interest apparently is Miss Pacman?

Let's see if this thread will or will not degenerate in a regulare flamefest.
Alinania
25-01-2005, 19:42
"We have technology"... funny. It's not like we can control the weather or avoid a new Ice Age. But eh, what else can you expect from somebody whose sexual interest apparently is Miss Pacman?

Let's see if this thread will or will not degenerate in a regulare flamefest.
Just wait...your time will come and you will fall in love with Miss Pacman just as well... :p
Siljhouettes
25-01-2005, 19:54
Screw it. We'll adapt. We have technology. There's like 6 billion of us. It's not like global warming and other environmental threats are going to make us go extinct.
So what if drilling for oil destroys a wild ecosystem? It's not like that will ruin anyone's livelyhood. At least nobody important.
Is this a joke or serious? Have you notice the recent tsunami disaster? That wasn't caused by global warming, but it shows that we can't control nature, despite our technology. But hey, the people who are dying out there aren't Americans, so obviously they're not important, right? :rolleyes:
Alinania
25-01-2005, 19:55
Is this a joke or serious? Have you notice the recent tsunami disaster? That wasn't caused by global warming, but it shows that we can't control nature, despite our technology. But hey, the people who are dying out there aren't Americans, so obviously they're not important, right? :rolleyes:
It definitely was serious. :rolleyes:
The Abomination
25-01-2005, 20:14
Ehh... the whole conservation movement is just downright dumb anyway. What, you think that just because an antelope is pretty you can spend billions and make evolution stand still?

Ha ha ha... no.

The world is constantly changing. Live with it. We can.
Drunk commies
25-01-2005, 20:20
Is this a joke or serious? Have you notice the recent tsunami disaster? That wasn't caused by global warming, but it shows that we can't control nature, despite our technology. But hey, the people who are dying out there aren't Americans, so obviously they're not important, right? :rolleyes:
Exactly. We can't control nature, but in wealthy countries we can minimize the damage.
The Black Forrest
25-01-2005, 20:25
Ehh... the whole conservation movement is just downright dumb anyway. What, you think that just because an antelope is pretty you can spend billions and make evolution stand still?

Ha ha ha... no.

The world is constantly changing. Live with it. We can.

The world changing on it's own is a natural thing.

Man playing the locust and changing it is not a good thing.
Teranius
25-01-2005, 20:26
Global warming isn't real.
Davo_301
25-01-2005, 20:27
"We have technology"... funny. It's not like we can control the weather or avoid a new Ice Age. But eh, what else can you expect from somebody whose sexual interest apparently is Miss Pacman?

Let's see if this thread will or will not degenerate in a regulare flamefest.

my vote goes to flamefest let me get the steel armor it's good againt flames...
Keruvalia
25-01-2005, 20:28
Screw it. We'll adapt. We have technology. There's like 6 billion of us. It's not like global warming and other environmental threats are going to make us go extinct.
So what if drilling for oil destroys a wild ecosystem? It's not like that will ruin anyone's livelyhood. At least nobody important.

Who needs technology? We just need a few butterflies flapping at opportune moments and in the right way.
The Black Forrest
25-01-2005, 20:28
Global warming isn't real.

Ahhh the counter water shortage logic:

"There isn't a water shortage, I turn the tap and it comes out."
Keruvalia
25-01-2005, 20:28
Global warming isn't real.


Yes it is.
Sinuhue
25-01-2005, 20:28
I always get a kick out of how people react to your threads!

And I personally can not wait to become enamoured of Miss Pacman. Right now, I only farm cyber sheep. :(
Davo_301
25-01-2005, 20:29
Global warming isn't real.

could we have this little thing called proof????

please????
Drunk commies
25-01-2005, 20:30
I always get a kick out of how people react to your threads!

And I personally can not wait to become enamoured of Miss Pacman. Right now, I only farm cyber sheep. :(
My trick is to give up on the idea of doing anything productive and just post on this board. I got from New Member to Mrs. Pacman Lover in almost no time.
Teranius
25-01-2005, 20:32
Can I have some proof that global warming IS real, and that this is not part of the larger weather cycle? Why ask me to provide proof when GW supporters have not?

Whenever it gets colder, the Global Warming jihadists will blame it on Global Warming. Guess what? When summer comes around and it gets hot, they'll blame that on Global Warming too. What a load of crap.

Just give me some proof from a good source that Global Warming is real.
The Black Forrest
25-01-2005, 20:34
Can I have some proof that global warming IS real, and that this is not part of the larger weather cycle? Why ask me to provide proof when GW supporters have not?

Whenever it gets colder, the Global Warming jihadists will blame it on Global Warming. Guess what? When summer comes around and it gets hot, they'll blame that on Global Warming too. What a load of crap.

Just give me some proof from a good source that Global Warming is real.

Actually by debate, you made a claim, somebody challenged you for proof.

You have to prove it don't.......
The Underground City
25-01-2005, 20:37
Actually the environment is pretty essential for agriculture. And we can't make enough indoor farms (or whatever) for everybody - too expensive.
MrJoshutopia
25-01-2005, 20:42
Global warming is real, and the proof is out there, as of right now the average tempature of the planet has increased by 1 degree, and yes there is proof out there that this is from green house gases. Now 1 degree might not seem like much, but this is just the early stages of global warming and the gases are increasing exponently. What GW's advisors want us to think is that with the "technology" that we have we can not only survive global warming, but we can reverse it, which if we look at Mars, we see that it cannot change.
Sinuhue
25-01-2005, 20:43
could we have this little thing called proof????

please????
Am I the only one who can't see these spoilers?
Trikovia
25-01-2005, 20:47
Screw it. We'll adapt. We have technology. There's like 6 billion of us. It's not like global warming and other environmental threats are going to make us go extinct.
So what if drilling for oil destroys a wild ecosystem? It's not like that will ruin anyone's livelyhood. At least nobody important.
We are on top of the food chain. Destroy the lower parts = destroy yourself.
Food doesn't appear out of nowhere, and chemically cleaning it from all the pollution there would be without environment policies would simply cost outrageous sums.
Not to mention that the idea of an all-concrete-metal-plastic-ceramic world sounds rather depressing as a sight. It would just scream "fake!".
Sinuhue
25-01-2005, 20:50
Just to mess you up:http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392255
Davo_301
25-01-2005, 20:52
Am I the only one who can't see these spoilers?

yey some one quoted me.. anyway onto the soloution to see the words just highlight the black box
Sinuhue
25-01-2005, 20:54
yey some one quoted me.. anyway onto the soloution to see the words just highlight the black box
Cool! That's always bugged me! So simple...
Davo_301
25-01-2005, 20:57
We are on top of the food chain. Destroy the lower parts = destroy yourself.
Food doesn't appear out of nowhere, and chemically cleaning it from all the pollution there would be without environment policies would simply cost outrageous sums.
Not to mention that the idea of an all-concrete-metal-plastic-ceramic world sounds rather depressing as a sight. It would just scream "fake!".

sorry to correct you bu humans are not the top of the food chains animals still eat us if the get the chance, bears, sharks, lions.. etc you get the idear
Takuma
25-01-2005, 20:58
could we have this little thing called proof????

please????

www.abd.org.uk/pr/274.htm

Read the article, plus the red bar graph. I know the graph at least is reliable as I have seen it countless times.
The Underground City
25-01-2005, 21:02
sorry to correct you bu humans are not the top of the food chains animals still eat us if the get the chance, bears, sharks, lions.. etc you get the idear

But we can eat those animals too. Food chain only counts natural diet I think. There is really no "top", just animals without predators.
Drunk commies
25-01-2005, 21:06
But we can eat those animals too. Food chain only counts natural diet I think. There is really no "top", just animals without predators.
There is the idea of an apex predator. The apex predator in a given area can pretty much eat anything he wants and not have to worry about being eaten. Humans qualify. When we end up getting eaten by something it's a rare event. Usually we're the most dangerous predator in any environment we occupy thanks to guns and cooperation with other humans.
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 22:19
Screw it. We'll adapt. We have technology. There's like 6 billion of us. It's not like global warming and other environmental threats are going to make us go extinct.
So what if drilling for oil destroys a wild ecosystem? It's not like that will ruin anyone's livelyhood. At least nobody important.
Ignorance is bliss.

:):sniper:
Gnostikos
25-01-2005, 22:22
There is the idea of an apex predator. The apex predator in a given area can pretty much eat anything he wants and not have to worry about being eaten. Humans qualify. When we end up getting eaten by something it's a rare event. Usually we're the most dangerous predator in any environment we occupy thanks to guns and cooperation with other humans.
Umm, almost. You are forgetting the largest reason that sexual reproduction exists: diseases and parasites. Everything in nature is cyclical. Except viruses, but they rely on the cycle. Not to mention that we are eaten when we die by decomposers.