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So i thought seeing as theres already a Hebrew only thread running here, maybe lets try a thread in any language except English...
so no full english, although bits of it in other languages is ok. Any other languages fully welcome!! Woo hoo multilingualism!!

Sin e go díreach glán!
Agus ain pionta beorách!
(that's about all the Geailge I speak. Beautifull language though!)

Und als ich auf dem Sankt Gotthard stand,
da hörte ich Deutschland schnarchen:
Es schlief da unten in guter Hut
von sechsunddreißig Monarchen

Du pain, du vin, du Boursin!
Et papa fume une pipe.
Et quelque chose..........

Denkend aan Holland
Zie ik brede rivieren
traag door oneindig laagland gaan
En zie ik rijen oneindig ijle polpulieren
als lange pluimen aan de einder staan
(Dutch may not sound beautifull to foreigners, but it's quite nice)

You'd probably get quite a lot of people speaking German or French. Hey, you could put up a poll where we'd get to vote what language we want the thread to be in. :D

Gaeilge is Irish Gaelic, right? I just want to see if I remember correctly when I was studying the Celts.

So i thought seeing as theres already a Hebrew only thread running here, maybe lets try a thread in any language except English...
so no full english, although bits of it in other languages is ok. Any other languages fully welcome!! Woo hoo multilingualism!!
Where's the Hebrew only thread? Did I miss it? It's the only foreign language I know!

Where's the Hebrew only thread? Did I miss it? It's the only foreign language I know!
You didn't miss much: Go here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392229) .

Gaeilge is Irish Gaelic, right? I just want to see if I remember correctly when I was studying the Celts.
It is indeed. I don't remember how the Scotch spell it, but I don't like their dialect anyway.

Gætir þú talað svolítið hægar?
Ég skil yður ekki.

Dia duit ! Cén chaoi 'bhfuil tú ?

It is indeed. I don't remember how the Scotch spell it, but I don't like their dialect anyway.
Well, there are 3 branches of Gaelic: Irish, Scottish Gaelic, and Manx. The other branch of Celtic language are comprosed by Welsh, Breton, and Cornish. The reason that it is called "Scottish Gaelic" is because there is actually a language called Scot, which, though Indo-Eurpoean, pretty unrelated to Scottish Gaelic, if anyone wanted to know.

Well, there are 3 branches of Gaelic: Irish, Scottish Gaelic, and Manx. The other branch of Celtic language are comprosed by Welsh, Breton, and Cornish. The reason that it is called "Scottish Gaelic" is because there is actually a language called Scot, which, though Indo-Eurpoean, pretty unrelated to Scottish Gaelic, if anyone wanted to know.


I think Scots is English with a really heavy Scottish accent.

Well, there are 3 branches of Gaelic: Irish, Scottish Gaelic, and Manx. The other branch of Celtic language are comprosed by Welsh, Breton, and Cornish. The reason that it is called "Scottish Gaelic" is because there is actually a language called Scot, which, though Indo-Eurpoean, pretty unrelated to Scottish Gaelic, if anyone wanted to know.
I knew that! (seriously, I did). :D

Well, there are 3 branches of Gaelic: Irish, Scottish Gaelic, and Manx. The other branch of Celtic language are comprosed by Welsh, Breton, and Cornish. The reason that it is called "Scottish Gaelic" is because there is actually a language called Scot, which, though Indo-Eurpoean, pretty unrelated to Scottish Gaelic, if anyone wanted to know.
Darlin, you're preaching to the choir. :D

Talar þú íslensku?
Snakker du norsk?
Sprichst du Deutsch?
Do you speak English?
A bheil Gàidhlig agaibh?
Prater du svenska?

סוף סוף, מצאתי דרך להדפיס בעברית.

Wenn ehr döfed, döf ich ä! :)

זה בושה שהעברית רק פורום מתה. אני אהיה שמח.

Téim go scoil lán gaelach. Déanann mé gach ábhar seachas Béarla as gaeilge.

A bheil Gàidhlig agaibh?
that scots gaelic? Its quite similar to Irish.
"An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?"

I think Scots is English with a really heavy Scottish accent.
No, I'm pretty sure it really is it's own language.

I knew that! (seriously, I did). :DDarlin, you're preaching to the choir. :D
But everyone might not necessarily know that. What about the people speaking Anglo-Saxon? They might not know!

But everyone might not necessarily know that. What about the people speaking Anglo-Saxon? They might not know!
you're right. they might not. but I think we scared them away ;)

Gætir þú talað svolítið hægar?
Ég skil yður ekki.

Ert þú frá Íslandi? Eða ertu bara að herma eftir einhverju sem þú fannst á netinu?

Talar þú íslensku?
Snakker du norsk?
Sprichst du Deutsch?
Do you speak English?
A bheil Gàidhlig agaibh?
Prater du svenska??האם אתה מדבר עברית

Téim go scoil lán gaelach. Déanann mé gach ábhar seachas Béarla as gaeilge.


that scots gaelic? Its quite similar to Irish.
"An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?"

Tha, beagan.

SH*T! That reminds me--I have to do my Hebrew homework!

that scots gaelic? Its quite similar to Irish.
"An bhfuil Gaeilge agaibh?"
Oh yes, though the only other language besides English that I speak is Español, I know quite a bit about other languages, and Gaelic languages are very close, linguistically speaking.

?האם אתה מדבר עברית

Ég tala ekki hebresku, því miður.

Tha, beagan.
Again:
Tá beagan

私は日本語をできます。二年前に日本に行きました。ミズリ大学で日本語のじゅうぎょうをとりにしました。まだ日本に行きたい。

Gaeilge is Irish Gaelic, right? I just want to see if I remember correctly when I was studying the Celts.

Gaelics one of those joke languages...like Ulster Scots

No, I'm pretty sure it really is it's own language.

Hmm, the issue of whether Scots is a language or a dialect seems controversial... the devolution movement probably caused the UK govt to recognize Scots as a separate language but it seems most linguists consider Scots to be a dialect within English. I looked up samples of Scots in wikipedia and I can understand it just with my knowledge of English, for example "Lufe God abufe al and yi nychtbour as yi self"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language

Gaelics one of those joke languages...like Ulster Scots

Gaelic is the native language of Scotland (Alba), Ireland (Éire), Wales (Cymru) and Isle of Mann (Manx), the Celts. It is not spoken or written in the same way in those nations but they are all Gealic languages.
It is not a joke.

Gaelic is the native language of Scotland (Alba), Ireland (Éire), Wales (Cymru) and Isle of Mann (Manx), the Celts. It is not spoken or written in the same way in those nations but they are all Gealic languages.
It is not a joke.
its a joke now. here anyway, all that its used for is for Sinn Fein to prance about saying "oh look at us we can speak gaelic"

please

its a joke now. here anyway, all that its used for is for Sinn Fein to prance about saying "oh look at us we can speak gaelic"

please

Sinn Fein is an Irish political party and the members are Irish and they speak their own language, I do not see what is a joke with that.

because they use it as a political "weapon" to patronise the unionists

If you want to call patriotism a weapon then fine. If you unionists are scared of the natives speaking their language in their own land then something is wrong with you. Why should they speak English when they are not English?
Just hire a translator if you do not know Irish Gaelic.

If you want to call patriotism a weapon then fine. If you unionists are scared of the natives speaking their language in their own land then something is wrong with you. Why should they speak English when they are not English?
Just hire a translator if you do not know Irish Gaelic.
because noone here speaks Irish as their first language, English is 99.99999999% of the populations first language

actually, its more like 100%

and as for "their own land"...my family has been here for 700 years, so its as much "our" land

because noone here speaks Irish as their first language, English is 99.99999999% of the populations first language

actually, its more like 100%

and as for "their own land"...my family has been here for 700 years, so its as much "our" land

You invaded their land, remember? Your people have lived there for 700 years but they have been their longer, so it's their land. They are the native people of that land. The only reason English is spoken in the Celtic nations is because of the invaders, if you would have let them be then Gaelic would be spoken there. Just look at the Republic of Ireland, they still use Gaelic and they are Irish. Same with the Irish in the Northern part of the country.

You invaded their land, remember? Your people have lived there for 700 years but they have been their longer, so it's their land. They are the native people of that land. The only reason English is spoken in the Celtic nations is because of the invaders, if you would have let them be then Gaelic would be spoken there. Just look at the Republic of Ireland, they still use Gaelic and they are Irish. Same with the Irish in the Northern part of the country.
can i just ask, where are you from?

im not quite sure how you manage to equate me with the English that tok over 200 years ago, but if you want to make the link then be my guest

As for the Republic, i would guess that less than 10% of people there have Irish as a first language. Its only an official language for symbolism, not because anyone speaks it. English is the main language

In the north, there are probably more people with oriental languages as a first language noone speaks Irish, and if they do then theyve learnt a bit in school and forget it very quickly.

Vocavi Viktor bonum.
Diligo meum magister.
Diligo Deum.
Ave Bartholemew!
Latinam docevi!
Vale!

can i just ask, where are you from?

im not quite sure how you manage to equate me with the English that tok over 200 years ago, but if you want to make the link then be my guest

As for the Republic, i would guess that less than 10% of people there have Irish as a first language. Its only an official language for symbolism, not because anyone speaks it. English is the main language

In the north, there are probably more people with oriental languages as a first language noone speaks Irish, and if they do then theyve learnt a bit in school and forget it very quickly.

I never said you were English and I do not know how to link you to the English for I do not know who you are.
Irish is spoken in the countryside of Ireland and is fast growing in Ireland.

I never said you were English
You invaded their land, remember

;)


I do not know how to link you to the English for I do not know who you are.
Irish is spoken in the countryside of Ireland and is fast growing in Ireland.
I'm descended from Scots

anyhows, Irish isnt as popular as youd think, in the far west in remote areas some speak it, but really no-one does as their first language

;)


I'm descended from Scots

anyhows, Irish isnt as popular as youd think, in the far west in remote areas some speak it, but really no-one does as their first language

1. The British did invade.
2. I did not say you were English. You asked me to link you to the English and I said i could not link you to them for I do not know who you are.

Never said you were English.

Scot are you. Good. Some of my people came from Scotland too as well as Ireland (I'm Icelandic, Norse-Celt). Did you know that the Irish are originally from Scotland?

1. The British did invade.
2. I did not say you were English. You asked me to link you to the English and I said i could not link you to them for I do not know who you are.

Never said you were English.

Scot are you. Good. Some of my people came from Scotland too as well as Ireland (I'm Icelandic, Norse-Celt). Did you know that the Irish are originally from Scotland?
sorry, it was just the way you said it, sounded like you were saying i was an invader or something

and the people in Ulster at least came from Scotland (like my family)

although, the other half were Normans who went to England, then to Ireland in the 1400s. So i suppose theres a bit of Norse in there as well ;)

because noone here speaks Irish as their first language, English is 99.99999999% of the populations first language

actually, its more like 100%

and as for "their own land"...my family has been here for 700 years, so its as much "our" land
That's not true. I was visiting my Dad in Dublin over Christmas and he works with several people who speak English as a second language. Care to guess the first?

That's not true. I was visiting my Dad in Dublin over Christmas and he works with several people who speak English as a second language. Care to guess the first?
Chinese?

its a more likely answer than Irish

and anyway, "here" is Northern Ireland, i know its slightly different in the Republic

sorry, it was just the way you said it, sounded like you were saying i was an invader or something

and the people in Ulster at least came from Scotland (like my family)

although, the other half were Normans who went to England, then to Ireland in the 1400s. So i suppose theres a bit of Norse in there as well ;)

Not a problem, I guess I was not really clear. Sorry about that.
Scots in Ulster, I did not know that. The Scots and the Irish are the same people-Scottish Celts so sometimes it is funny to see them fighting on the forum about their identaty.
Well the Normans came from France (Normandy) my people were Norse-Norwegians who went from Norway to Scotland to Ireland and then on to Iceland. But yes many of you have Norman blood in you I guess and that is good too, It's a good mix.

We do not really hear much of what is going on in N-Ireland, last I heard you found some bombs in a car or something at the airport. Is there something new going on?

Chinese?

its a more likely answer than Irish

and anyway, "here" is Northern Ireland, i know its slightly different in the Republic
I know. There was a lag time between my post and your latest comments. They do speak Gaelic though. As a first language. I was surprized to learn that as well, but happy because that means it isn't dead. I would argue with you about the Sinn Fein point. A lot of people seem to want the language preserved at the very least. Hence the Gaelic RTE stations.

Not a problem, I guess I was not really clear. Sorry about that.
Scots in Ulster, I did not know that. The Scots and the Irish are the same people-Scottish Celts so sometimes it is funny to see them fighting on the forum about their identaty.
Well the Normans came from France (Normandy) my people were Norse-Norwegians who went from Norway to Scotland to Ireland and then on to Iceland. But yes many of you have Norman blood in you I guess and that is good too, It's a good mix.

We do not really hear much of what is going on in N-Ireland, last I heard you found some bombs in a car or something at the airport. Is there something new going on?
there really was no argument between anyone until after 1800 when Ireland officially joined the UK. Before that the Protestants and Catholics had both been fighting against the English, and the last major uprising before that was mainly a Protestant one

Then the industrial north, and especially the better of Protestants (who had been favoured a bit by the English) saw the benefits of being in the Union and thats when the Unionist/Nationalist division began really

recently, nothing that major...although in the week before christmas there were something like 7 fire bombings, and £26.5 million stolen from a bank by the IRA....

As for the Normans, well they would originally have been Vikings who settled in the north of France

I know. There was a lag time between my post and your latest comments. They do speak Gaelic though. As a first language. I was surprized to learn that as well, but happy because that means it isn't dead. I would argue with you about the Sinn Fein point. A lot of people seem to want the language preserved at the very least. Hence the Gaelic RTE stations.
oh undoubtledly some do want to save Irish, but Sinn Fein are just using it to patronise the Unionists, not out of any interest to save the language

and like i said, there are some in the south who use Gaelic as a first language but the vast, vast majority use English

recently, nothing that major...although in the week before christmas there were something like 7 fire bombings, and £26.5 million stolen from a bank by the IRA....
Was that proven? Last I heard Provo ties were just speculation.

Was that proven? Last I heard Provo ties were just speculation.
well the Chief Constable of the PSNI has come out and said it, and i doubt he would without reasonable evidence

oh undoubtledly some do want to save Irish, but Sinn Fein are just using it to patronise the Unionists, not out of any interest to save the language

and like i said, there are some in the south who use Gaelic as a first language but the vast, vast majority use English
I realize that. And I wasn't trying to make the point that any large number of people speak it still. Just that it isn't entirely dead, and that the island isn't entirely English yet.

well the Chief Constable of the PSNI has come out and said it, and i doubt he would without reasonable evidence
I see. It's been hard to follow since I got back to the states.

Talar þú íslensku?
Snakker du norsk?
Sprichst du Deutsch?
Do you speak English?
A bheil Gàidhlig agaibh?
Prater du svenska?

Ja, jag pratar svenska!

I realize that. And I wasn't trying to make the point that any large number of people speak it still. Just that it isn't entirely dead, and that the island isn't entirely English yet.
oh i know, and it wont be

Ert þú frá Íslandi? Eða ertu bara að herma eftir einhverju sem þú fannst á netinu?

"Are you from Iceland? Or have you just imitated after something you found on the net?"

Did I get that right? :S I'm Swedish, I tried. :p

"Are you from Iceland? Or have you just imitated after something you found on the net?"

Did I get that right? :S I'm Swedish, I tried. :p

That is good, jette bra!

there really was no argument between anyone until after 1800 when Ireland officially joined the UK. Before that the Protestants and Catholics had both been fighting against the English, and the last major uprising before that was mainly a Protestant one

Then the industrial north, and especially the better of Protestants (who had been favoured a bit by the English) saw the benefits of being in the Union and thats when the Unionist/Nationalist division began really

recently, nothing that major...although in the week before christmas there were something like 7 fire bombings, and £26.5 million stolen from a bank by the IRA....

As for the Normans, well they would originally have been Vikings who settled in the north of France

Thanks.
Is it safe in N-Ireland, can people go were ever they want or is it divided (Catholic Protestant)?

The Normans were Viking yes but not Norse. The Norse did not go that much South, they were probably Danes.

Norse-went west
Danes-went south
Sweeds-went east

Thanks.
Is it safe in N-Ireland, can people go were ever they want or is it divided (Catholic Protestant)?
yea its safe enough, can go pretty much wherever you want but theres one or two areas you would have to watch yourself.

when i say one or two i mean several in most towns, but in general its fine


The Normans were Viking yes but not Norse. The Norse did not go that much South, they were probably Danes.

Norse-went west
Danes-went south
Sweeds-went east

ill have to take your word for that, cant say i know much about viking travelling

1.yea its safe enough, can go pretty much wherever you want but theres one or two areas you would have to watch yourself.

when i say one or two i mean several in most towns, but in general its fine



2.ill have to take your word for that, cant say i know much about viking travelling

1.Good but are you a target if you are in a green t-shirt or something. Are the fighters IRA + splinter groups and the Unionists + splinter groups in uniform or are they in regular clothes and if so do they have any logos or shave their heads or something like that to set them appart? I think you understand what I mean. Can a person wear a cross or a saint emblem or have the Irish or British flag on their clothes.
oh... and is the flag of NI used by protestants or catholics?

2.Yes this is true.

That is good, jette bra!

Yay! Icelandic is so beautiful.

Ok ill divide this up just so i can try and answer all your questions

1.Good but are you a target if you are in a green t-shirt or something.
nah, the northern ireland football shirt is green and people from both sides wear it. same with orange, people might bring it up but only if theyre determined to have a fight with you anyway, it wouldnt cause someone to go out of their way to get you




Are the fighters IRA + splinter groups and the Unionists + splinter groups in uniform or are they in regular clothes and if so do they have any logos or shave their heads or something like that to set them appart?
nope. they are terrorists, and dont have any uniform or distinguishing features.


Can a person wear a cross or a saint emblem or have the Irish or British flag on their clothes.

well, it depends where you are. You could get away with a cross because its used by both sides (Protestant and Catholic), but a Union Jack or an Irish Tricolour would be a bit dodgy, although generally in Belfast city centre noone would bother you, but in a unionist area wearing an Irish flag could get you into a bit of bother and vice-versa.

Although i say Belfast city centre is pretty much neutral, you do get the odd instance of mindless bigotry. Like one day i was walking about with a poppy on (coming up to remembrance day), and some guy walking past me says "fucking brit"....urgh

generally though its just common sense, dont wear an irish flag in a loyalist area, dont wear a union jack in a republican area.


oh... and is the flag of NI used by protestants or catholics?
.

Northern Ireland doesnt have an official flag anymore because this very problem. The old one was (and still is) mostly used by Protestants (Loyalist/Unionist) because it had a crown on it and the republicans/nationalists werent too happy about that.

We also have the flag of the Irish provence Ulster which is different

Yay! Icelandic is so beautiful.

Þakka þér fyrir kærlega. Það sama má segja um sænsku að mínu mati.;)
Ég hef samt oftast heyrt svía tala skánsku en ég hef líka heyrt venjulega sænsku og er hvort tveggja mjög flott.

Ok ill divide this up just so i can try and answer all your questions
nah, the northern ireland football shirt is green and people from both sides wear it. same with orange, people might bring it up but only if theyre determined to have a fight with you anyway, it wouldnt cause someone to go out of their way to get you
nope. they are terrorists, and dont have any uniform or distinguishing features.
well, it depends where you are. You could get away with a cross because its used by both sides (Protestant and Catholic), but a Union Jack or an Irish Tricolour would be a bit dodgy, although generally in Belfast city centre noone would bother you, but in a unionist area wearing an Irish flag could get you into a bit of bother and vice-versa.
Although i say Belfast city centre is pretty much neutral, you do get the odd instance of mindless bigotry. Like one day i was walking about with a poppy on (coming up to remembrance day), and some guy walking past me says "fucking brit"....urgh
generally though its just common sense, dont wear an irish flag in a loyalist area, dont wear a union jack in a republican area.
Northern Ireland doesnt have an official flag anymore because this very problem. The old one was (and still is) mostly used by Protestants (Loyalist/Unionist) because it had a crown on it and the republicans/nationalists werent too happy about that.
We also have the flag of the Irish provence Ulster which is different

Thank you for the reply.
A few more questions:
When will you get a new national flag?
What is beeing done to put an end to the troubles?
What do you think is the way to solve the issue?
What are the Irish and British governments doing to solve it?
Is there a map on the web that you know about that shows the areas (Unionsit/Republican) in Northern Ireland?
What would you like to see happen in NI-Give it back to Ireland or keep it British?

Thank you for the reply.
no problem :)


When will you get a new national flag?
I dont think there are any plans to, most people just use the old one anyway


What is beeing done to put an end to the troubles?
well, we had an assembly that shared power, but that didnt work...right now not alot, its kind of stalled recently


What do you think is the way to solve the issue?
honestly i have no idea. The only thing i can think of that would work would be to move all nationalists to one half and give it to the Republic, and all unionnists to the east half and keep it in the UK.

although i hope that never happens


What are the Irish and British governments doing to solve it?
not alot recently, but in the past theyve helped


Is there a map on the web that you know about that shows the areas (Unionsit/Republican) in Northern Ireland?
the closest i can find is this:
clicky (http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/maps/ni_protestants_1991.gif)
99% of protestands are unionist so that map might help


What would you like to see happen in NI-Give it back to Ireland or keep it British?
personally, i want to remain part of the UK

Well now I see why I don't come on to NS General a hell of a lot...

Please don't anybody take the views or opinions presented in this thread as at all representative of anything... There is so much bias and misrepresentation swinging about in this thread it just makes you want to scream...

If you want to find out about the reality of Northern Ireland or indeed how Irish / Gaeilge is actually still a living language you do well not to listen to those who are so obviously coloured...

With reference to the Northern Bank robbery, it is interesting to hear Nadkor say that the PSNI Chief Constable wouldn't attribute blame without evidence... Funny, that's exactly what he has done!

Ireland will be as one when the majority of the population so desires... That day will come... I'm sorry you won't be ready for it Nadkor...

Dia duit ! Cén chaoi 'bhfuil tú ?

Dia dhuit! taim tuirseach traochta tnaite mar bhi me amach oiche areir le mo chairde...ag ol agus ag damhsa....pian i mo cheann anois!

Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul

its a joke now. here anyway, all that its used for is for Sinn Fein to prance about saying "oh look at us we can speak gaelic"

please

true.
unfortunately!
but i know lotsa people who speak pidgin Irish when on holidays, just for the whole "ha ha you can't understand me" thing

true.
unfortunately!
but i know lotsa people who speak pidgin Irish when on holidays, just for the whole "ha ha you can't understand me" thing

I used it when in Morocco to stop people from trying to be my guide to whatever town or village I was in. Was travelling with a polish person and they did the same thing with Polish, until some Morrocan guy we met could actually speak Polish. Didn't meet any Irish speaking Morrocans though.

Don't try and communicate with me in Irish though, I only understand about 12 phrases, and I don't understand the rules of pronunciation!

hmmm.... i started this thread, cos i had nothing else to do for a while, then abandoned it cos no one replied! interesting that it turned all political and serious when i originally intended the complete opposite!

I wonder if this forum supports Russian cyrillic script....
Можете вы все увидеть это?

Osama uara' senacco warishi!

Not directed anywhere, just throwing in a completely random phrase in Taino.

Я хочу дать вам сообщение: пей пиво, пей пиво, каждый день!

Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul

I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen, han mathon ne chae a han noston ned 'wilith.

Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul
Uglúk u bagronk sha pushdug CelebrityFrogs-glob búbhosh skai!

Well now I see why I don't come on to NS General a hell of a lot...

Please don't anybody take the views or opinions presented in this thread as at all representative of anything... There is so much bias and misrepresentation swinging about in this thread it just makes you want to scream...
where?

i have answered North Island's questions about Northern Ireland neutrally and honestly


If you want to find out about the reality of Northern Ireland or indeed how Irish / Gaeilge is actually still a living language you do well not to listen to those who are so obviously coloured...
if you want to find out the reality of Northern Ireland why not ask someone who lives there? thats whats been done in this thread


With reference to the Northern Bank robbery, it is interesting to hear Nadkor say that the PSNI Chief Constable wouldn't attribute blame without evidence... Funny, that's exactly what he has done!
really?

So the Chief Constable is allowed to go throwing accusations around whenever he likes? I very much doubt it, he wouldnt have said it was the IRA unless he had proof - and it was obviously enough proof for Bertie Ahern (Irish PM, not you) and Tony Blair



Ireland will be as one when the majority of the population so desires... That day will come... I'm sorry you won't be ready for it Nadkor...
Oh i know it will, but youll have a major problem with 750,000 British people up in the north east

nope. they are terrorists, and dont have any uniform or distinguishing features.

a lot of the organisations operating under the flag of a nationalist or unionist organisation are now actually criminal organisations/ drug cartels using political differences to recruit new members and put a semi-legitimate face on their or ganised crime. It's exploitation of an ideal and its supporters really.

Well now I see why I don't come on to NS General a hell of a lot...

Please don't anybody take the views or opinions presented in this thread as at all representative of anything... There is so much bias and misrepresentation swinging about in this thread it just makes you want to scream...

If you want to find out about the reality of Northern Ireland or indeed how Irish / Gaeilge is actually still a living language you do well not to listen to those who are so obviously coloured...

With reference to the Northern Bank robbery, it is interesting to hear Nadkor say that the PSNI Chief Constable wouldn't attribute blame without evidence... Funny, that's exactly what he has done!

Ireland will be as one when the majority of the population so desires... That day will come... I'm sorry you won't be ready for it Nadkor...
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nope. they are terrorists, and dont have any uniform or distinguishing features.

a lot of the organisations operating under the flag of a nationalist or unionist organisation are now actually criminal organisations/ drug cartels using political differences to recruit new members and put a semi-legitimate face on their or ganised crime. It's exploitation of an ideal and its supporters really.
theyre still terrorists on the side...fire bombings, shootings, carjackings and such

the question was whether or not the IRA/UVF/other organisations use anything to distinguish themselves, and like i said, they dont

theyre still terrorists on the side...fire bombings, shootings, carjackings and such

the question was whether or not the IRA/UVF/other organisations use anything to distinguish themselves, and like i said, they dont

sorry i misunderstood. generally i see organised crime as a form of terrorism. my main point was just that their are not as many POLITICAL paramilitary organisations as their may seem because of the amount of criminals working under a political banner.

sorry i misunderstood. generally i see organised crime as a form of terrorism. my main point was just that their are not as many POLITICAL paramilitary organisations as their may seem because of the amount of criminals working under a political banner.
ah ok, see your point now

a group suck as the UVF started out in 1912 (although i know its not really the same organisation now, but you can see where im going) as a political organisation...but since the troubles died down theyve found other things to keep themselves occupied with such as organised crime

ah ok, see your point now

a group suck as the UVF started out in 1912 (although i know its not really the same organisation now, but you can see where im going) as a political organisation...but since the troubles died down theyve found other things to keep themselves occupied with such as organised crime

that too. but several groups using unionist/nationalist names have sprung up since then with little or no political agenda. it's kind of like brand recognition they're 'selling' themselves to the media and potential members using links to ideoligies, links they don't actually have.

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Can we just stop bitching on who invaded who? Live with the present and make something of it.

Slán!
Bye!
Shalom!
Au revoir!
Gruss Gott!
Houdoe!

(Last one is local dialect)

nach bhfuil sé suimúil gur bhunaíodh an thread seo mar áit go mbeadh teangacha eile ach amháin Béarla á labhairt ach anois tá gach rud a rá i mBéarla. :rolleyes:
Is daoine aineolach iad!
Creideann siad gurbh é an mBéarla an taon teanga le fáil!

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If you spoke like that here people would think there was something wrong with you..

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"Minni ræðu flúði frá
fjandinn ótta bundinn,
þinni mæðu ending á
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