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I'm running a virus scan on my computer following the virus alert. My current total is about 471. This is still after about 10'000 files, so a lot more to come I fear. How many viruses do you have? Lets see who, if anyone can top my total.

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:D

I don't think you'll be challenging me any time soon;)
Also worth noting is that in the end my AVG anti-virus thing will heal about three of the 471 viruses.

I've actually never found a virus on my computer. However, my virus scanner is all screwed up. It takes half an hour to scan, comes up with nothing, then when I look at the log it says it only scanned one file...

I don't think you'll be challenging me any time soon;)
Also worth noting is that in the end my AVG anti-virus thing will heal about three of the 471 viruses.
Yeah, not once has Norton ever fixed a virus for me, and I've been using it for 2 years now.

Its the most annoying thing in the world.
X files scanned.
70 viruses found.
me: YES! Great job AVG.
3 viruses healed.
me: SORRY HOW MANY? *cries*

Its the most annoying thing in the world.
X files scanned.
70 viruses found.
me: YES! Great job AVG.
3 viruses healed.
me: SORRY HOW MANY? *cries*

Hang on...your virus scanner actually manages to find viruses?

Hang on...your virus scanner actually manages to find viruses?
oh yeah, it finds them, but you get to fix them yourself.

oh yeah, it finds them, but you get to fix them yourself.
Easiest method:
Reformat your hard drive.

I would know, I've done it more than once. Stupid fecking virus-writers.
:mad:

Reformat my hard drive? *panics*
How am I meant to do that? My computer knowledge wavers between zero and non-existent!

Reformat my hard drive? *panics*
How am I meant to do that? My computer knowledge wavers between zero and non-existent!

You don't want to do that. Trust me. You want to hope that's only needed as a last ditch effort, coming shortly after setting the damn computer on fire.

Reformat my hard drive? *panics*
How am I meant to do that? My computer knowledge wavers between zero and non-existent!
Well, reformatting is a last-ditch effort, because it will wipe out all your data. Sometimes it ends up being the only choice, but in your situation it sounds like a really really bad idea.

Firewall + Anti Virus.

400,000 files.

0 virii.

And Norton's squelched the few that appear from time to time.

Easiest method:
Reformat your hard drive.

I would know, I've done it more than once. Stupid fecking virus-writers.
:mad:
So far I was lucky, I never had to do that. But it is a pain in the ass removing all that crap.

The college has about 20 firewalls and 2 Virus scanners in operation... This system is Virus free.

Oh just reformat it already. This computer has survived about 3 of those. Just copy important stuff onto a CD and start over.

Copy stuff onto a cd? *cries*
Seriously, my computer knowledge is limited to NS and computer games!

You don't want to do that. Trust me. You want to hope that's only needed as a last ditch effort, coming shortly after setting the damn computer on fire.

Heh heh. First ditch effort for me. All the useful files on my computer are in one folder, so I just copy that onto a CD, then make sure that I can find the CDs for all my programs.

For some reason, whenever I download a Windows XP update, it completely screws up my internet access. So, I have to reformat it whenever I absent-mindedly download an update. I guess there's probably some way of uninstalling them, but reformatting is much easier. :)

*Cries*
471 viruses found.....
0! healed.
AVG has reached all new lows.

*Cries*
471 viruses found.....
0! healed.
AVG has reached all new lows.
*pat pat* there, there. Have a cookie.

*steals cookie* Hehe! *runs away*

*steals cookie* Hehe! *runs away*
:eek:

*Cries*
471 viruses found.....
0! healed.
AVG has reached all new lows.

I use AVG. Its one of the best out there.

Have you been updating your AVG?

*knocks Kanabia out and steals the cookie back and eats it*
Vonner, with your comment I'm now convinced that AVG simply hates me!

*knocks Kanabia out and steals the cookie back and eats it*

OMG GODMODER!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111shift+1!!

471 viruses?! How can anybody have 471 viruses?! What the heck have you been doing to get 471 viruses?! I go nuts if I ever find one virus! How can you have 471 viruses?!

OMG GODMODER!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111shift+1!!
OMFG TEH 3V1L G0DM0D1NG!11!!!eleven!!
OH NOES!!

*knocks Kanabia out and steals the cookie back and eats it*
Vonner, with your comment I'm now convinced that AVG simply hates me!

LOL :)

Run the update....then run it again until you get the no more updates available message.

Also go to the Test Center and under Test on the tool bar make sure that the scanners are actually activated....and what they should do when they encounter a virus...

471 viruses?! How can anybody have 471 viruses?! What the heck have you been doing to get 471 viruses?! I go nuts if I ever find one virus! How can you have 471 viruses?!
I regularly have >200.
:mad:

Bretonia, that is a damn good question, which lacks any kind of good answer. The only websites I go on are NS and the off-site forums such as Nasicournia.

But how? Do you download them deliberately or something?

471 viruses?! How can anybody have 471 viruses?! What the heck have you been doing to get 471 viruses?! I go nuts if I ever find one virus! How can you have 471 viruses?!

We all *know* what he's been doing, but we just don't want to say it.

We all *know* what he's been doing, but we just don't want to say it.

Heh. Heheheh. Heh. Yeah... :D :p

Run the update....then run it again until you get the no more updates available message.

Also go to the Test Center and under Test on the tool bar make sure that the scanners are actually activated....and what they should do when they encounter a virus...
I have the free version, but I'll try. I don't believe I have to update it in order for it to get rid of viruses! Always read the small print first people!
Its finding the viruses, but not getting rid of them. *sigh* I'll give it a shot.

We all *know* what he's been doing, but we just don't want to say it.
I deny all charges against me!

I deny all charges against me!

Sure, we believe you. Really.

But how? Do you download them deliberately or something?
I *do* have a collection of historic viruses, but they're all safely within passworded zips, in an encrypted archive...

...on a hard drive that I crashed when I accidentally figured out they weren't all historic viruses, and one was a fairly potent WinXP virus that I inadvertantly ran, which proceeded to wipe out windows to the point of being unable to boot.

Stupidity always triumphs!

*Cries*
471 viruses found.....
0! healed.
AVG has reached all new lows.

I've no idea if this is relevant, but while you might call them all 'viruses', and that's the commonly used term, there's a distinction between true Viruses (code/script snippets that insert themselves into compatible files) and Trojans (self-contained executables that do not need to infect 'innocent' files).

It could be that all the items found on your system are the latter, and so your virus scanner cannot 'clean out' the malicious code and 'heal' the good parts. You need to check if there are options to allowed it to (if no 'healing' is practical, because the entire file is the bad guy) delete the files completely, or at least quarantine them. You also need to check it looks at and deals with registry entries and .INI entries.



(To further confuse the matter, there's also a distinction between regular Trojans and Worms and Snakes, but that's another story... :)

I have the free version, but I'll try. I don't believe I have to update it in order for it to get rid of viruses! Always read the small print first people!
Its finding the viruses, but not getting rid of them. *sigh* I'll give it a shot.

OUch!!!! NO NO NO!!!!!

You must always run your updates on a regular basis...the app might pic up that there is a virus there but is not able to clean it as it does not have the latest AV definitions....

You also should run adaware and spybot S&D....and update these on a regular basisi as well!!!

And a firewall....

I deny all charges against me!

*passes black briefcase under the table*

>_>

<_<

Vonners, I try and update it but it just tells me my internet connection failed:(

Vonners, I try and update it but it just tells me my internet connection failed:(

yeah...I've been having a prob with that today as well!! Maybe their update server is being flakey...

just keep on trying every so often....

Free is good, but for under £30 for AV, why not buy a copy?

AV & Firewall, It's like wearing a seatbelt and having the brakes checked, Only important when you need them, then you really need them.
Some of the newer AV & Firewall packages also detect spyware, but as both Adaware and Spybot do good fre versions you can skimp here if you want to.

Vonners, I try and update it but it just tells me my internet connection failed:(...something that some examples of Malware does is add in an entry into your 'hosts' file that effectively blocks traffic to common AV Vendor sites...

Check that file ('hosts', no extension, somewhere in or under the C:\WINDOWS directory, or equivalent, according to your particular OS and installation options, frexample mine is "C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC\HOSTS") and see if you have a series of entries that say "127.0.0.1 <various.av.vendor.urls>".

You may or may not have legitimate entries in there, but certainly any one(s) relating to your AV vendor and redirecting to the above IP are superfluous to requirements and causing the connection to fail. Delete such as that, or at least comment them out with a '#' at the start of the line.

(That soundslike your problem, seeing as you appear to be able to connect to here, at least, so if it is the same machine you have an otherwise workable connection. If not, then... well, maybe something else...)

...something that some examples of Malware does is add in an entry into your 'hosts' file that effectively blocks traffic to common AV Vendor sites...

Check that file ('hosts', no extension, somewhere in or under the C:\WINDOWS directory, or equivalent, according to your particular OS and installation options, frexample mine is "C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC\HOSTS") and see if you have a series of entries that say "127.0.0.1 <various.av.vendor.urls>".

You may or may not have legitimate entries in there, but certainly any one(s) relating to your AV vendor and redirecting to the above IP are superfluous to requirements and causing the connection to fail. Delete such as that, or at least comment them out with a '#' at the start of the line.

(That soundslike your problem, seeing as you appear to be able to connect to here, at least, so if it is the same machine you have an otherwise workable connection. If not, then... well, maybe something else...)


Nope....Its more likely that as AVG are cutting down on the freeware they are limiting bandwidth....sometimes my cnx works...sometimes not....

and yeah I checked my hosts file .... and my firewall logs on a regular basis :)

good advice though EB...

Nope....Its more likely that as AVG are cutting down on the freeware they are limiting bandwidth....sometimes my cnx works...sometimes not....

and yeah I checked my hosts file .... and my firewall logs on a regular basis :)

good advice though EB...
Double-post...
:)

I have never had a virus. This includes my Windows 98 days. Live by one simple rule never open attachments. Also for the past 6 years have been running linux.

I have never had a virus. This includes my Windows 98 days. Live by one simple rule never open attachments. Also for the past 6 years have been running linux.
Well, if you're rocking Linux, that explains why you have no viruses, because Linux so happens to rock that way.

With the new batch of worms, you can get viruses simply off accessing webpages, without doing anything yourself.

Well, if you're rocking Linux, that explains why you have no viruses, because Linux so happens to rock that way.

With the new batch of worms, you can get viruses simply off accessing webpages, without doing anything yourself.

Latest is via RSS feeds

Latest is via RSS feeds
!!
Shit! That's really annoying, I'd bet.
...for people who know what an RSS feed is.
Mwahahaha.
:)

!!
Shit! That's really annoying, I'd bet.
...for people who know what an RSS feed is.
Mwahahaha.
:)

Indeed it is annoying

very annoying

I hate script kiddies nearly as much as spammers

You also should run adaware and spybot S&D....and update these on a regular basisi as well!!!

My Adaware has been finding stuff recently but it locks up when I tell it to remove stuff, it does the quarantining seltions, but instantly goes to the end of deleting selection and freezes :confused:

Hi Sanctaphrax, hi all of you!
I'm new here, so i'd just like to give my humble (i guess that's how you write it) oppinion...

I guess that your virus or trojan or "whatever" number beats everything i have ever seen, Sanctaphrax...

Why dont't you try to check it out with an free online scan like Panda's or Trend Micro's?

I'm not sure abot the rules of this forum but if you like i can post the links here!

Sorry for my lousy english! Cheers! :p

Hi Sanctaphrax, hi all of you!
I'm new here, so i'd just like to give my humble (i guess that's how you write it) oppinion...

I guess that your virus or trojan or "whatever" number beats everything i have ever seen, Sanctaphrax...

Why dont't you try to check it out with an free online scan like Panda's or Trend Micro's?

I'm not sure abot the rules of this forum but if you like i can post the links here!

Sorry for my lousy english! Cheers! :p

Ive just been learning as I go to, but from what ive seen you can post pretty much anything as long as its not offensive (pornography, expletives etc)

Hi SilentSouls.
Links are fine as long as they don't advertise other games.
Also, your English is waaaaay better than some peoples here. In that entire post I saw one mistake. Thats not bad at all, my posts generall contain that.

Hi SilentSouls.
Links are fine as long as they don't advertise other games.
Also, your English is waaaaay better than some peoples here. In that entire post I saw one mistake. Thats not bad at all, my posts generall contain that.
Yup, SS did better than you!
:D

Hee, my english sucks terribly, and I've lived here all of my (admittedly short) life!

Yup, SS did better than you!
:D

Hee, my english sucks terribly, and I've lived here all of my (admittedly short) life!

Well I'm an old fart compared to most of you lot and my English spelling sucks so ...well...um....heh....errr.....there???? (how the hell do I finish that sentance? Or do I have to include grammer on the list!?!?!)!!! LOL

:D Thank you all for such a great welcome!

Here are the links, just follow the instructions and let the scanner do the job for you! :)

If you need any help I'm a little experienced with cleaning stupid things from the system... (didn't have enough money to pay the technician so i had to learn by myself... noy, join that with a cumpulsory attraction to install any stupid program that looks my way, and you have a huge amount of "system cleaning skills") :rolleyes:

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/com/activescan_principal.htm

:D Thank you all for such a great welcome!

Here are the links, just follow the instructions and let the scanner do the job for you! :)

If you need any help I'm a little experienced with cleaning stupid things from the system... (didn't have enough money to pay the technician so i had to learn by myself... noy, join that with a cumpulsory attraction to install any stupid program that looks my way, and you have a huge amount of "system cleaning skills") :rolleyes:

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/com/activescan_principal.htm

Good stuff...

http://auditmypc.com is good as well...

But...

the problem here is that the AVG has not been updating properly

noy, join that with a cumpulsory attraction to install any stupid program that looks my way, and you have a huge amount of "system cleaning skills") :rolleyes:
Hey, me too!
I'm always doing things like "Ooh look! A free game!" and downloading it, noly to find that not only is the game actually shareware, but I've just wrecked my main partition.

Curiosity killed the cat, I guess.

7 years online... 1 virus and it was one I asked a friend to send to me just to see if my virus scanner worked. :/

But...

the problem here is that the AVG has not been updating properly

Ok... so what about unninstalling it and getting the latest version here? :

http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/

I've never used that antivirus, so i can't evaluate it, but re-installing the latest version should do the trick...

7 years online... 1 virus and it was one I asked a friend to send to me just to see if my virus scanner worked. :/

Lol! I don't need to do that! I just have to LOOK at the computer and it gets a virus! :P

:headbang:

Hey, me too!
I'm always doing things like "Ooh look! A free game!" and downloading it, noly to find that not only is the game actually shareware, but I've just wrecked my main partition.

Curiosity killed the cat, I guess.

Lol, what's wrong with shareware? :)

well well I guess there are some very good reasons why some people here get viruses and some don't. could be that some people have a firewall or that they haven't been on........interesting sites.....filled with viruses.

Lol, what's wrong with shareware? :)
Shareware means I only get to play it for long enough to decide I wanted to have been able to play it longer.

Shareware means I only get to play it for long enough to decide I wanted to have been able to play it longer.

Oh I hear ya, I found this cool little alien shooting game once which was heaps of fun and then it just ended :( Obviously not fun enough to pay for though, hehe.

Hey, me too!
I'm always doing things like "Ooh look! A free game!" and downloading it, noly to find that not only is the game actually shareware, but I've just wrecked my main partition.

Curiosity killed the cat, I guess.

Iaps... those things use to come with a lot of spyware or adware :( ... i'm becoming a pro in cleanig that too :(

God! :headbang: I've just arrived here and i don't stop writting! I'm addicted! :'(

423, 827 viruses found? That is not a small number! That is a big number!

Flagrant System Error.
Computer over.
Virus = very yes.

*hem* Sorry, couldn't help it...

Iaps... those things use to come with a lot of spyware or adware :( ... i'm becoming a pro in cleanig that too :(

God! :headbang: I've just arrived here and i don't stop writting! I'm addicted! :'(

Hehe, yeah that'll happen, welcome to the club!

well well I guess there are some very good reasons why some people here get viruses and some don't. could be that some people have a firewall or that they haven't been on........interesting sites.....filled with viruses.

Sure, indeed i have a firewall, cookies protection, pop-up protection, adware and spyware scanners...
Now, try having somebody else often using your computer!... Wait a few weeks whithout cheking your browser's history and find out what happens... ;)

Sure, indeed i have a firewall, cookies protection, pop-up protection, adware and spyware scanners...
Now, try having somebody else often using your computer!... Wait a few weeks whithout cheking your browser's history and find out what happens... ;)

No one but me uses my laptop...if someone needs to use a computer at home then I have a spare 'trashable' machine.

BTW, Sanctaphrax, you said that when you try to update your internet connection seems to fail... do you have any kind of firewall or stuff with specific settings that may be blocking that connection?...

Only ever had one virus....ok so it was the Chernoyble (or however it's spelt) one from a few years back and it wiped my hard drive and destroyed the mother board....but still only 1 virus :D

3 Firewalls and 2 Anti virus put paid to that :D :D

Any of you use Zonealarm? I like the attack counter it has on it. Came back from uni one day after leaving my comp on with its 3mb broadband connection, and saw the message

1016 Intrusions Stopped

734 Highly Rated

and thats why you want a fire wall :D

i have had about 1 virus which was a trojan dam things that take over my pc :headbang: but i use mcafee which detected it when i installed it so yay

i would say having 243 pieces of spyware in my pc was bad thats worst for me

if you are having trouble with your current antivirus program or *gasp* dont have one (like having promiscuous sex without using condoms!)

go to trend microsystems and run their FREE online housecall antivirus program. excellent program runs the scan, fixes whats fixable then tries to sell you a permanent version (which is not a bad choice of av program)

then GET A GOOD ANTIVIRUS PROGRAM!

and while you are at it, get a firewall. i use the free version of zonealarm from zonelabs. there are others.

78 posts Sanctaphrax! You have struck gold!

Only ever had one virus....ok so it was the Chernoyble (or however it's spelt) one from a few years back and it wiped my hard drive and destroyed the mother board....but still only 1 virus :D

3 Firewalls and 2 Anti virus put paid to that :D :D

Any of you use Zonealarm? I like the attack counter it has on it. Came back from uni one day after leaving my comp on with its 3mb broadband connection, and saw the message

1016 Intrusions Stopped

734 Highly Rated

and thats why you want a fire wall :D

My ZoneAlarm:

642,727 Intrusions Stopped
2,414 Highly Rated

:/

Free is good, but for under £30 for AV, why not buy a copy?

I used to have Norton (ok technically i didn't buy it but meh, same program), i changed when it failed to detect a virus which corrupted Windows and forced me to reformat.
I now use AVG and it works brilliantly.


One thing i have noticed - and this may be of interest to other AVG users - is that occationally AVG will pop up with a 'Virus Found' warning, but a scan won't detect anything. If this happens the likelihood is that it's a virus in your System Restore files, and can either be manually deleted by accessing the (hidden) folder (c:/system volume information? something like that) or deleted by deleting all your system restore files.
Far as i'm aware teh virus poses no threat in a resotre file unless the file is restored, but it's bloody annoying for AVG to keep reporting it.

deleted by deleting all your system restore files.

I'd sooner set fire to my computer. System restore has saved my computer more than once. Plus I make money part time by ministering to other peoples computers. Restore is the only thing that works in those "6387 viruses detected" moments. It ranks as the most mythical of beasts: A useful windows product

No, dont reformat. Just go buy PC Cillin: PC CILLIN (http://www.trendmicro.com/en/products/desktop/pc-cillin/evaluate/overview.htm) The Norton stuff is a bunch of crap. Pc cillin just did this: :sniper: to the viruses. All of them. :) :gundge:

DrunkenDove - I've never used it in the 3 years i've had an XP computer. People who know how to use a computer shouldn't really have to. Even so, i still keep it running and only delete points if they become infected.

So yeah, perhaps i should have added a disclaimer or soemthing, but personally i have no qualms about deleting them.

DrunkenDove - I've never used it in the 3 years i've had an XP computer.

People who know how to use a computer shouldn't really have to.

Alas, a lot of people on computers don't really know how to use it. Which is good for my finances.


Even so, i still keep it running and only delete points if they become infected.

So yeah, perhaps i should have added a disclaimer or soemthing, but personally i have no qualms about deleting them.

It was the "all" that shocked me. Deleting useless points is great. But I might have to do some serious work if one of my customers told me they were all gone.

AVG anti-virus

There's your problem. It produces about 12 Virii every day around four AM.

I had no problems, downloaded it just because it was recommended. Restart my computers, I get five "Application failed to initialize at (memadress)" messages, and it finds two viruses immediately. No real problems for the rest of the day, shut down monitor and go to sleep... Wake up to find "AVG has located a virus" message (and The Cleaner Active Process Monitor notes several changes in AVG). I close it, both come back about a dozen times. I get the "application failed to initialize" problem every time I restart my computer. After three days of this, I re-activate Symantec. The Virii keep coming, but Symantec finds and deletes them immediately, whereas AVG now says "file does not exist" when I tell it to delete (as they're already gone)/clean/quarantine/show me the file.

A month later, I remove AVG, manually delete all traces, sick Security Task Manager and The Cleaner on it's remains. No problems since.


Edit: By the by- I have three firewalls, 4 trojan/spyware killers, and two anti-virus programs running all at once, plus manually checking with Hijack This whenever I feel like something's off. Almost anything's toast before it touched my comp, even if it originates there. To all hackers- yeah, you could get through, but it'd take you hours, and everything worthwhile's on I2hub anyway. It's nothing but an endurance trial if you like.

There's your problem. It produces about 12 Virii every day around four AM.

I had no problems, downloaded it just because it was recommended. Restart my computers, I get five "Application failed to initialize at (memadress)" messages, and it finds two viruses immediately. No real problems for the rest of the day, shut down monitor and go to sleep... Wake up to find "AVG has located a virus" message (and The Cleaner Active Process Monitor notes several changes in AVG). I close it, both come back about a dozen times. I get the "application failed to initialize" problem every time I restart my computer. After three days of this, I re-activate Symantec. The Virii keep coming, but Symantec finds and deletes them immediately, whereas AVG now says "file does not exist" when I tell it to delete (as they're already gone)/clean/quarantine/show me the file.

A month later, I remove AVG, manually delete all traces, sick Security Task Manager and The Cleaner on it's remains. No problems since.


Edit: By the by- I have three firewalls, 4 trojan/spyware killers, and two anti-virus programs running all at once, plus manually checking with Hijack This whenever I feel like something's off. Almost anything's toast before it touched my comp, even if it originates there. To all hackers- yeah, you could get through, but it'd take you hours, and everything worthwhile's on I2hub anyway. It's nothing but an endurance trial if you like.

It's strange that of the many many AVG users i know you're the only person i've ever heard have this problem. Kinda sugggests it was a problem with your setup?

For people complaining about their Anti-Virus Software, I recommend Panda Internet Security 8.0.

What's that you say? You'll have to friggin' pay?

I say, "no way!"

Keep your currency in your pockets today!

Here's a link without futher delay! (http://jakal.vze.com/)

(You'll need WinRAR to install it but that's easy to work out, eh?)

No, dont reformat. Just go buy PC Cillin: PC CILLIN (http://www.trendmicro.com/en/products/desktop/pc-cillin/evaluate/overview.htm) The Norton stuff is a bunch of crap. Pc cillin just did this: :sniper: to the viruses. All of them. :) :gundge:

I think, my link, will provide PC Cillin, free of billin'!

It's strange that of the many many AVG users i know you're the only person i've ever heard have this problem. Kinda sugggests it was a problem with your setup?

My Theory, supported by the OP, is merely that the other don't layer their security enough to pick up on it. Notice he had over 450 Virii. If I scanned once a month, at the rate I was gaining them, that's be about right.

Good stuff...

http://auditmypc.com is good as well...

But...

the problem here is that the AVG has not been updating properly

Well, that problem made me download and install AVG just to find out if there was a sollution... AND THERE IS! :D

1 - Go here: http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_updt7.php
2 - Download the differential upgrade (the only one u can use for the free version) to any folder on your pc
3 - Open AVG Control Center
4 - Click on Upgrade Manager
5 - Click on Properties
6 - UNCHECH where it says: Do not ask for upgrade source / OK
7 - Click on Update
8 - Chose to install from a folder instead from the web, search for your folder, blah blah blah, and that should do the trick! :p

They must have some kind of problem with the server when they launch new upgrades, so you can't upgrade with the automatic wizard :confused: ... but u can upgrade using the old fashioned way! :rolleyes:

Great! Now i have a new Anti-Virus... :headbang:

Seeing as this thread is still alive, I'd like to report my latest findings. 497 viruses found, and I didn't even let it get to the end of the search!