NationStates Jolt Archive


I Give Up!!! [rant]

Sanctaphrax
24-01-2005, 20:28
The general forum is driving me crazy. I have made repeated attempts to start threads, yet none of them have gotten more than 20 replies. This is driving me nuts. It seems if a thread doesn't deal with politics, abortion, religion or homosexuals then it isn't worth replying to. I have heard enough arguing between Conservatives/Liberals to last me a lifetime. How can you people argue every single day about the same thing on ten different threads? I participated in Israel debates, did 4 or 5 and gave up. Nobody ever changes anyones mind, now thats ok, debating is fun. But find new topics, broaden your horizons. I'm going to be taking a break from General for a while. In the meantime, any bets going on this thread not getting to 50 posts?
Myrth
24-01-2005, 21:13
MuhOre, consider this a formal warning.

To the rest of you, any more crap like this again and you'll be warned yourselves.
Vittos Ordination
24-01-2005, 21:16
Alas, my very first photoshop has met with an untimely death.

Myrth, you have destroyed the one wonderful thing that I have ever created. :(
Superpower07
24-01-2005, 21:18
To the rest of you, any more crap like this again and you'll be warned yourselves.
Hey, I was agreeing with Sanctaphrax! And I still am!
Sanctaphrax
24-01-2005, 21:19
Hey, I was agreeing with Sanctaphrax! And I still am!
I don't think that was aimed at you somehow. And thanks for the support.
Ro-Ro
24-01-2005, 21:19
you go, girlfriend! or... boyfriend... type.. person... thing.
Vonners
24-01-2005, 21:20
MuhOre, consider this a formal warning.

To the rest of you, any more crap like this again and you'll be warned yourselves.

Huh???? What did I do????
Kiwicrog
24-01-2005, 21:24
In the meantime, any bets going on this thread not getting to 50 posts? Of course it won't, with all these damn baby killing, homosexual liberals around. :p ;)
The Infinite Dunes
24-01-2005, 21:24
Aye, I'm a bit pissed that a perfectly legitamate post of mine was deleted. *shakes fist at authority*
The Mycon
24-01-2005, 21:40
It seems if a thread doesn't deal with politics, abortion, religion or homosexuals then it isn't worth replying to.

Nonsense. Threads about absolute nonsense tend to get more replies than anything else about here. Though, the exact same thread could be defined as valuable, spam, or trolling, depending entirely on who the poster is* and which moderator/admin** is making the decision, so I'd recommend you give it a misleading title that won't inspire anyone to doubt its worth.


*Ex1: One of the TRA-socks can say anything he likes, including flat out lies. The nation gets deleted at a rate of about 1 every five months, but the threads are untouched. In example, once someone posted a thread about a $10K reward for proving something or another related to Bush. The body of the message was just the article cut, pasted, and linked. It was closed for spam and later deleted as copyright infringement. Two days later, TRA posted the exact same article, word for word (except that he said $10 million in the title, and the article still stated $10 thousand), and it made it for about three days to 100-some posts, only 3 or 4 of which were about the previous deletion.

**Ex2: I've made threads advocating genocide of Arkansas, Georgia, and a few other states, to which Steppistan participated in one, and Myrth deleted another.
Cole Square
24-01-2005, 21:41
I agree probably half of everything in the general section is about the same crap I say give up on it a find something better to talk about
Monkeypimp
25-01-2005, 03:20
Was anyone else rather confused by Myrths post at the top?



Normally, I would follow this comment up with a dick joke, but those sorts of things get you in trouble now :(
Myrth
25-01-2005, 03:23
Was anyone else rather confused by Myrths post at the top?



Normally, I would follow this comment up with a dick joke, but those sorts of things get you in trouble now :(

I had to delete about 3 pages of spam, as requested by the author.
Branin
25-01-2005, 03:30
The general forum is driving me crazy. I have made repeated attempts to start threads, yet none of them have gotten more than 20 replies. This is driving me nuts. It seems if a thread doesn't deal with politics, abortion, religion or homosexuals then it isn't worth replying to. I have heard enough arguing between Conservatives/Liberals to last me a lifetime. How can you people argue every single day about the same thing on ten different threads? I participated in Israel debates, did 4 or 5 and gave up. Nobody ever changes anyones mind, now thats ok, debating is fun. But find new topics, broaden your horizons. I'm going to be taking a break from General for a while. In the meantime, any bets going on this thread not getting to 50 posts?
Just try doing it with a sense of humor. LIke the goatee thread. And occasionally one will hit it big. OR be the first to jump on it when Corupt-a-wish or a PC dies.
Eutrusca
25-01-2005, 03:35
The general forum is driving me crazy. I have made repeated attempts to start threads, yet none of them have gotten more than 20 replies ... any bets going on this thread not getting to 50 posts?

I'm offering 10 to one odds on that! :)
Peopleandstuff
25-01-2005, 03:40
I guess certain things are just more topical than others. For instance politics of the US are a newsworthy item in most countries, few political discussions about New Zealand are posted. Religion is something that people have passionate feelings about and anyway in the current scenario is topical due to it's currently being an interwoven theme with regards to US politics, and abortion and homosexuality issues fits into that too.

These issues are topical not only due to passionate sentiments, but because they feature in current discourse to the point where people may feel much more erudite about such subjects and are prompted to have an opinion on them by the very nature of the attention they recieve at present.

As a side note, I cant definately say one way or another with regards to this forum, but when I was moding for a message board, getting rid of individual posts was time consuming, it was often easier (due to the board workings) and quicker to split off the original thread post and get rid of the rest if there were more than one or two spam threads. Mods (at this forum) are not paid and if to get the job done they do need to take the odd shortcut, I'm sure this is an inconvinience we can live with. If your post was genuinely not spam/inappropriately, and you feel particularly strongly about the sentiments/opinion expressed in it, it's probably a lot quicker for you to repost it, than it would be for a mod to go through 2-3 pages of posts, individually deleting inappropriate posts, where such posts form the majority.
Ciryar
25-01-2005, 03:46
Good call. I don't feel that strongly about it, after all, this is a thread about apathy.
Zeppistan
25-01-2005, 03:48
New Zealand has politics?

I thought all it had were sheep!



Did anyone else know this?

:D

(That being said, I've always admired the way the Kiwis made a stand on nukes - in all it's forms. I don't neccessarily agree with it to the extent in which it is carried, but it is good to see people make a stand on their prinicples)
Eutrusca
25-01-2005, 03:54
... it is good to see people make a stand on their prinicples.

Unless, of course, you don't agree with them, in which case they're stupid SOBs. :D
Holy Sheep
25-01-2005, 03:58
Sheep own.
Word Games
25-01-2005, 04:02
The general forum is driving me crazy. I have made repeated attempts to start threads, yet none of them have gotten more than 20 replies. This is driving me nuts. It seems if a thread doesn't deal with politics, abortion, religion or homosexuals then it isn't worth replying to. I have heard enough arguing between Conservatives/Liberals to last me a lifetime. How can you people argue every single day about the same thing on ten different threads? I participated in Israel debates, did 4 or 5 and gave up. Nobody ever changes anyones mind, now thats ok, debating is fun. But find new topics, broaden your horizons. I'm going to be taking a break from General for a while. In the meantime, any bets going on this thread not getting to 50 posts?

Wanna join a union? :)
MNOH
25-01-2005, 04:02
Hey, as of right now you got more than 20 replies.
Zeppistan
25-01-2005, 04:21
Unless, of course, you don't agree with them, in which case they're stupid SOBs. :D


Nope - well, not usually.

Case in point: The gay marriage issue.

I respect those whose views mirror mine which is: "Hey - committed gay couples exist. Telling them that they cannot formalize their relationship and gain the same benefts that I do strikes me as unfair and unworthy." These peole have a position and express it clearly.

I also respect those who say: "My beliefs state that this is immoral and that gay liasons should be prohibited." I mean - I disagree with them vehemently and may argue the point with them, but I respect that they stand on their principles.


Who don't I respect on this issue?

People who's position goes something like: "Well, gays exist and I don't like it, but I suppose I can't stop it so I'll just have to hate them quietly to avoid social ostracism, and if society dictates that we have to give them the same rights as me then I suppose we can let them live together (even though the thought disgusts me) and give them all of those same rights, but just don't let them use the same label for their identical relationship to mine because that would just creep me out....or worse yet - by using that label for myself people might wonder if I'm gay or something...."


That thinking, to my mind, is pathetic. It would have been like telling black people during the civil rights movement: "sure, I guess you can have all the rights of citizens if everyone insists - you just can't be called a citizen because that would cheapen my identical citizenship. How about we call you nigazins instead...."


These people aren't making a stand on principle because they are expressing the willingness abandon their principle to allow the very gay marriage that they claiming to be opposed to exist, but only as long as it exists with a different label. They are abdicating their underlying principle for an argument on semantics in order to let themselves delude themselves into thinking that they have maintained their moral position.


Those people are the stupid SOBs on this issue to my mind, wheras the people who state "homosexuality is morally wrong" are just people I disagree with most vehemently.
The Doors Corporation
25-01-2005, 08:24
what is Myrth talking about? do we have to stop debate about all that fun stuff now? I hope not I was just gonna post a new thread called "Homosexual Nazi Communist Jesus against Young Earth Atheism Leftist GWB sucks abortion lesbianism most hottest NS girl theory"
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 08:32
what is Myrth talking about? do we have to stop debate about all that fun stuff now? I hope not I was just gonna post a new thread called "Homosexual Nazi Communist Jesus against Young Earth Atheism Leftist GWB sucks abortion lesbianism most hottest NS girl theory"
Myrth is talking about people turning the discussion in this thread to a totally different topic, and some of them just spamming.
Vittos Ordination
25-01-2005, 08:34
Myrth is talking about people turning the discussion in this thread to a totally different topic, and some of them just spamming.

The thread would have died anyway, I figured Sanctaphrax (or whatever) would want his thread reach 50 posts.
Armed Bookworms
25-01-2005, 08:35
The reason we can post in the same threads over and over can be embodied by a quote from Galaxy Quest. "Never give up, Never surrender."
Deltaepsilon
25-01-2005, 09:09
When it comes to internet forums, a third one needs to be added:
"Never get a life." ;)
Slinao
25-01-2005, 09:20
so, if this is to show that a thread can push over 50 without being about all the conterverisal bs, then I for one will help.

I have been getting rather bored with all the same going on. Its either Bush this, Christians that, Liberals this, republican that, don't kill this, hey clone that. yadda yadda yadda

I mean, in the mist of all this, could I further the cause of The Noah?

perhaps I shall.
Slinao
25-01-2005, 09:23
oh come on, we only need like what 19 more people to toss in their two cents worth, and then this thread can go away to la la land... or neverland or where ever it is that threads go.
Harlesburg
25-01-2005, 09:31
MuhOre, consider this a formal warning.

To the rest of you, any more crap like this again and you'll be warned yourselves.
I dont understand any of this and i dont want to be made an example of but it appears eveythings a bit slow Today :( :confused:
Harlesburg
25-01-2005, 09:34
Quote:
1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d

I can understand this but not this so is their any hope for me?
ZX81 H4x0r0r

Zee HAte One Hazoror ? :confused:
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 09:34
oh come on, we only need like what 19 more people to toss in their two cents worth, and then this thread can go away to la la land... or neverland or where ever it is that threads go.
Assuming you really *want* to get forumbanned, spamming the thread to death might be a good idea, but otherwise, I'd advise against it.
;)
Lighfingerers
25-01-2005, 09:48
I guess I kinda missed the point where having a thread started by you, reach 50 or so replies means you are some kind of super chap(ess).

If you start a conversation (thread) surely it just runs it's natural course? Or I could just be an idiot with little/no understanding of the world today. (que flames and the thread reaching 50 posts ...wow).
Slinao
25-01-2005, 09:49
Assuming you really *want* to get forumbanned, spamming the thread to death might be a good idea, but otherwise, I'd advise against it.
;)

i didn't think this would be spamming, I'm keeping on topic, and seeing what other people feel about all the threads about religion, abortion and the like. As I had stated before, and then saw no responce

I'm not asking for spamming, I was asking for more people to get involved in a thread that doesn't deal with politics, religion, abortion, or science.
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 09:50
I guess I kinda missed the point where having a thread started by you, reach 50 or so replies means you are some kind of super chap(ess).
Whaaa?
If you start a conversation (thread) surely it just runs it's natural course? Or I could just be an idiot with little/no understanding of the world today. (que flames and the thread reaching 50 posts ...wow).
Well, this was a thread about a particular topic, but people took it over.
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 09:51
i didn't think this would be spamming, I'm keeping on topic, and seeing what other people feel about all the threads about religion, abortion and the like. As I had stated before, and then saw no responce

I'm not asking for spamming, I was asking for more people to get involved in a thread that doesn't deal with politics, religion, abortion, or science.
Oh, excuse me!
I misread your post!
Sincerest apologies to you, I hope you didn't take too much offense at that.
Slinao
25-01-2005, 09:58
Oh, excuse me!
I misread your post!
Sincerest apologies to you, I hope you didn't take too much offense at that.

I've never taken anything offensively on this forum, we are all wackos around here, and I'm proud of it, lol.

It happens, I don't know how many posts I've misread, even more so at such a late hour.
Harlesburg
28-01-2005, 09:44
New Zealand has politics?

I thought all it had were sheep!



Did anyone else know this?

:D

(That being said, I've always admired the way the Kiwis made a stand on nukes - in all it's forms. I don't neccessarily agree with it to the extent in which it is carried, but it is good to see people make a stand on their prinicples)
Just so you know Australia has more shame and im pretty sure at a higher rate than us the just get personal about their Kangaroo's.

I guess we saw the Cold war was comming to an end so why do we need America's Nuke's.?
And if their here the Russian's would want to hit us as a threat.-we dont need that.
If any place could survive Fallout it would be New Zealand-most wind comes from Antarctica or Ausrtalia(A problem).

America could have Ships if they were not Nuclear Powered or Armed but generally coudnt/Wouldnt do that as it defeats the purpose of a long range fleet.Its hurt Antarctic missions to some extent but at least they can still use Christchurch to send Galaxy's and stuff to help the scientists. :)
Sanctaphrax
28-01-2005, 09:53
Well its been a week and under 40 replies. My point is proven, thank you.
Vittos Ordination
28-01-2005, 10:00
Well its been a week and under 40 replies. My point is proven, thank you.

Well, what the hell were we supposed to talk about?
Legless Pirates
28-01-2005, 10:02
Myrth deleted 3 pages :rolleyes:
Occidio Multus
28-01-2005, 10:03
Whaaa?

Well, this was a thread about a particular topic, but people took it over.


making me think about what happened last night on the "what are you wearing thread" key- rist. sorry myrth. can i give you a present of some sort? :D
Sanctaphrax
28-01-2005, 10:17
Myrth deleted 3 pages :rolleyes:
Yeeees... three pages of spam!
Legless Pirates
28-01-2005, 10:20
Yeeees... three pages of spam!
You can't have it all Sanct
Mutant Dogs 2
28-01-2005, 10:29
MuhOre, consider this a formal warning.

To the rest of you, any more crap like this again and you'll be warned yourselves.

Its shit like that which makes people not want to reply. :rolleyes:

Oh! Did I say shit? Egad!

No, wait!

I can say that. :D


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392413
GMC Military Arms
28-01-2005, 11:36
Its shit like that which makes people not want to reply. :rolleyes:

Oh! Did I say shit? Egad!

No, wait!

I can say that. :D


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392413

Bragging like that would be flamebaiting, ace.
Mutant Dogs 2
28-01-2005, 11:40
Bragging like that would be flamebaiting, ace.

Doesn't sound very much like I'm bragging.

More like being a smartarse. But rarely am I correct like this on the forums, so I thought "heh, what the fuck. Give yourself a fucking treat."
Torching Witches
28-01-2005, 12:44
MuhOre, consider this a formal warning.

To the rest of you, any more crap like this again and you'll be warned yourselves.
Aw, shit. What did I miss this time?
Gawdly
28-01-2005, 13:13
Yup, General has become a swamp, with the occassional shiny frog to occupy my time. Nonetheless, I still find myself drawn to it daily, inexplicably. Much like the way I feel about snails...they are slimey and ugly, yet taste great with garlic and butter.

Ahem. Post #50.
The odd one
28-01-2005, 13:50
general is the only place i go here, it's so nice and random. but it is annoying how wrapped up people get in politics and stuff, even when that's not what the thread was about. :rolleyes: