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C'mon people, Research.

Salchicho
24-01-2005, 20:16
This chart has been posted numerous times.

http://www.bushflash.com/jpg/or_01.jpg

It has been debunked more time than it has been posted.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/stateiq.asp

Please, feel free to do a little research before posting a stupid chart like the above.
Chicken pi
24-01-2005, 20:19
Generally it's posted in response to a stupid assumption like "leftists are crazy".

EDIT: I think I should be clearer about what I mean by this. I think that both sides should stop complaining about each other all the time.
Freedomfrize
24-01-2005, 20:23
I don't have the impression it was supposed to be taken seriously... Nice site anyway, I particularly enjoyed "idiot son of an asshole" http://www.bushflash.com/idiot.html
Salchicho
24-01-2005, 20:40
Generally it's posted in response to a stupid assumption like "leftists are crazy".
Doesn't change the fact that it is a complete fraud.
Vonners
24-01-2005, 20:43
Doesn't change the fact that it is a complete fraud.

Bit like the presence of the Coalition in Iraq
You Forgot Poland
24-01-2005, 20:46
Doesn't change the fact that it is a complete fraud.

It's a joke, homie. Satire.

It's only fraud if it's passed off as legit in order to gain something of value. So lets ease up on them legalese hammers, Tex.
Chicken pi
24-01-2005, 20:47
Doesn't change the fact that it is a complete fraud.

But that doesn't change the fact that very few people carefully check their statistics before they post them. Christ, this is a discussion forum, not Oxford.
Iztatepopotla
24-01-2005, 20:47
Of course it's fake. I mean, if the people of New Jersey are so smart, why the heck do they live in New Jersey!?
Dingoroonia
24-01-2005, 20:48
Doesn't change the fact that it is a complete fraud.
It's a joke, and an old one that's been recycled for every election in the past decade or so.

If you're stupid enough to post/believe a joke without checking it, that doesn't make it fraud, that makes you a moron.
UpwardThrust
24-01-2005, 20:48
It's a joke, homie. Satire.

It's only fraud if it's passed off as legit in order to gain something of value. So lets ease up on them legalese hammers, Tex.
Do you consider the increase in arguing position something of value? If so it does get passed off to prove something about one side of an argument

I guess depends on what you value
Vonners
24-01-2005, 20:49
But that doesn't change the fact that very few people carefully check their statistics before they post them. Christ, this is a discussion forum, not Oxford.

um....no....this is a madhouse

welcome!
Dingoroonia
24-01-2005, 20:49
Of course it's fake. I mean, if the people of New Jersey are so smart, why the heck do they live in New Jersey!?
Because NY doesn't want them and to the other side lies Trailervania
Armandian Cheese
24-01-2005, 20:49
Yeah, so those thousands of Polish and British soldiers are just cardboard cut-outs?
CSW
24-01-2005, 20:50
Do you consider the increase in arguing position something of value? If so it does get passed off to prove something about one side of an argument

I guess depends on what you value
It's a discussion forum on the internet...
Dingoroonia
24-01-2005, 20:54
Yeah, so those thousands of Polish and British soldiers are just cardboard cut-outs?
Moldova has a dozen guys there too, but calling this a coalition is pretty silly, its' "whoever the U.S. could threaten or bribe into sending a few of their sons", and many of those (including your Poland) are withdrawing as we speak.
You Forgot Poland
24-01-2005, 20:54
Do you consider the increase in arguing position something of value? If so it does get passed off to prove something about one side of an argument

I guess depends on what you value

You're going to tell me that the chart in question strengthens anyone's position? Christ, according to that chart, the average resident of Mississippi is legally required to ride the short bus to work.
Pithica
24-01-2005, 20:55
Yeah, so those thousands of Polish and British soldiers are just cardboard cut-outs?

You mean the polish troops that have been trying to leave since they got there? (http://www.iht.com/articles/541866.htm)
Dingoroonia
24-01-2005, 21:11
You're going to tell me that the chart in question strengthens anyone's position? Christ, according to that chart, the average resident of Mississippi is legally required to ride the short bus to work.
Have you BEEN to Mississippi?
Salchicho
24-01-2005, 21:15
It's a joke, and an old one that's been recycled for every election in the past decade or so.

If you're stupid enough to post/believe a joke without checking it, that doesn't make it fraud, that makes you a moron.
The majority of left thinking idividuals on this site will attach to this chart and think is gospel. I just find it funny that people will site a bogus chart as proof of their intelligence.
You Forgot Poland
24-01-2005, 21:17
Have you BEEN to Mississippi?

Hey-Oooooooooooooooooooo!
Dingoroonia
24-01-2005, 21:24
The majority of left thinking idividuals on this site will attach to this chart and think is gospel. I just find it funny that people will site a bogus chart as proof of their intelligence.
I find it funny when people make blanket statements about what "the majority of" a group of people will do, and when they don't know the difference between "site" and "cite"

(edited to satisfy a nitpicking whinger)
Neo-Anarchists
24-01-2005, 21:28
The majority of left thinking idividuals on this site will attach to this chart and think is gospel. I just find it funny that people will site a bogus chart as proof of their intelligence.
I haven't seen anybody do that. I've seen many post it as a joke, but not yet have I seen somebody use it to say "I'm smarter than you!"
Salchicho
24-01-2005, 21:29
I find it funny when people make blanket statements about what "most" people will do, and when they don't know the difference between "site" and "cite"
Great, we can laugh together.

By the way, you put most in quotes. Quotes are used to quote someone. I never said most, your use of quotation marks was kinda dumb.
Vittos Ordination
24-01-2005, 21:30
Since my first photoshop was ruthlessly destroyed by Myrth in the other thread, I shall post it here, where it is also applicable:

http://img175.exs.cx/img175/2377/or01copy7ry.jpg

*awaits high-fives for being so awesome*
Neo-Anarchists
24-01-2005, 21:31
Since my first photoshop was ruthlessly destroyed by Myrth in the other thread, I shall post it here, where it is also applicable:
Go Vittos!
:fluffle:

EDIT:
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
The fluffle isn't animating!
Vittos Ordination
24-01-2005, 21:33
Go Vittos!
:fluffle:

I would suggest that you save that to a disk right now, as I am assuredly going to be a world famous photoshopper one day.
Dingoroonia
24-01-2005, 21:36
Great, we can laugh together.

By the way, you put most in quotes. Quotes are used to quote someone. I never said most, your use of quotation marks was kinda dumb.
You're right, I paraphrased in quotes, which is acceptable behavior only for the Bush administration. I have edited the post accordingly.
Seosavists
24-01-2005, 21:37
Since my first photoshop was ruthlessly destroyed by Myrth in the other thread, I shall post it here, where it is also applicable:


*awaits high-fives for being so awesome*
dats nnot ture Me's smirt!
Me's smirt!
Salchicho
24-01-2005, 21:40
You're right, I paraphrased in quotes, which is acceptable behavior only for the Bush administration. I have edited the post accordingly.
You paraphrased in quotes? You mean you lied about what I said.
Vittos Ordination
24-01-2005, 21:42
You paraphrased in quotes? You mean you lied about what I said.

uh-oh, dems fightin werds
Neo-Anarchists
24-01-2005, 21:47
You paraphrased in quotes? You mean you lied about what I said.
You *did* say that "the majority of left thinking idividuals on this site" would do something...
Dingoroonia
24-01-2005, 21:51
You paraphrased in quotes? You mean you lied about what I said.
If you speak some language where paraphrase=lie and where most =/= majority of, you could say that...at risk of looking like a snarky little bitch who doesn't know "cite" from "site".
Salchicho
24-01-2005, 21:58
If you speak some language where paraphrase=lie and where most =/= majority of, you could say that...at risk of looking like a snarky little bitch who doesn't know "cite" from "site".
Paraphrase does not go inside of quotes, quotes go inside of quotes, hence the term quote.

Use of the term "snarky little bitch" is poor form, poor debate, and really childish. :)
Neo-Anarchists
24-01-2005, 22:00
Paraphrase does not go inside of quotes, quotes go inside of quotes, hence the term quote.

Use of the term "snarky little bitch" is poor form, poor debate, and really childish. :)
Well, it's fixed now. It now says "the majority of" in quotes.
Do you still have a problem with it, or must Dingoroonia change something else?
Dingoroonia
24-01-2005, 22:01
Paraphrase does not go inside of quotes, quotes go inside of quotes, hence the term quote.

Use of the term "snarky little bitch" is poor form, poor debate, and really childish. :)
And endlessly playing semantic games to distract from the idiocy of your original post is what?
Neo-Anarchists
24-01-2005, 22:03
Calm down a bit, you two, as it wouldn't be good if this devolved into a flame-war.

Stop for a minute and think about if this is really worth the effort.
:)
Vittos Ordination
24-01-2005, 22:04
Calm down a bit, you two, as it wouldn't be good if this devolved into a flame-war.

Stop for a minute and think about if this is really worth the effort.
:)

My beautiful creation is going to be destroyed again. :(
Salchicho
24-01-2005, 22:06
Well, it's fixed now. It now says "the majority of" in quotes.
Do you still have a problem with it, or must Dingoroonia change something else?
No, I just have a problem with some putting quotes around thier own writing, and saying I said it.

...and calling me a bitch.

So yeah, he could tone down the childishness.

If he wants to put quotes around something I said to try an embarass me, he should stick to my mispelling of cite, (I am utterly humilited by that :rolleyes: ) and shy away from name calling. I have two year old twins sitting next to me coloring spiderman pictures that know better thatn to call names. :)
Dingoroonia
24-01-2005, 22:07
Calm down a bit, you two, as it wouldn't be good if this devolved into a flame-war.

Stop for a minute and think about if this is really worth the effort.
:)
Sorry, was just having fun. (there, now I've delayed the inevitable degeneration into flamewar and trolling by 13 milliseconds :) )
Salchicho
24-01-2005, 22:15
It would be good in the future to not lie about what people say. And not to call them names when they catch you and call you out.