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What type of creation do you believe in?

MuhOre
24-01-2005, 18:19
See poll. Let's just see what NS'ers think about how the world was created..

Edit: It's supposed to see "unless you count Jon Stewart"
The Supreme Rabbit
24-01-2005, 18:21
See poll? What poll?
The Soviet Americas
24-01-2005, 18:22
Creationism is a lie.
MuhOre
24-01-2005, 18:22
have to wait for the poll to come up. :)
MuhOre
24-01-2005, 18:23
Creationism is a lie.


Damn sexay lie though.
The Supreme Rabbit
24-01-2005, 18:25
Oh, now I can see the poll...

"God just initiated the big bang...everything else is stories" That's my opinion. I believe in science, and when science comes to it's end, I believe in God.
Lancamore
24-01-2005, 18:27
I believe in the scientific explanation of how the world began and how life developed. That said, the scientific view does not exclude the possibility that god was involved.
MuhOre
24-01-2005, 18:29
I believe in the scientific explanation of how the world began and how life developed. That said, the scientific view does not exclude the possibility that god was involved.


For curiosity, were there any other choices, i could've out up? Or are all the choices up there? Plus some random conspiracy ones.
Ratheia
24-01-2005, 18:31
I still believe that God and science can co-exist peacefully.
Quentulus Qazgar
24-01-2005, 18:35
The only logical explanation is the big bang.
God couldn't create the world in 6 days because he could have stayed awake for only 5 days with the help of amphetamine.
Iippo
24-01-2005, 19:16
Creationism is a lie.

I just love it when people completely ignore the question asked and just declare something ignorant and hateful... ^_^; Instead of answering what kind of creation/birth of the world/whatever s/he believes in, he chooses to go and trash someone elses view. Lovely. People like him/her make me doubt whether God exists - but not for long, because stupidity is voluntary.

Anyway, I voted for the second thing (6 days as in 6 phases) because, well obviously, that's what I believe.
Superpower07
24-01-2005, 19:26
Jon Stewart is my Saviour
Dogburg
24-01-2005, 19:29
The idea of creationism relies on a spontaneousely existant god existing, and then creating a universe.

To my mind it is simpler to assume a spontaneously existing universe, without the middle-man.

Why is it any more plausible to assume that a deity magically appeared and created a universe than to assume that a universe just magically appeared without god?

Both arguments rely on a logical impossibility, but I prefer the simpler impossibility.
MuhOre
24-01-2005, 19:33
Eh... easier to say G-d exists. At least it gives me comfort, knowing i'll end up going somewhere when i die. After all, reading from another thread.

If the Believers are right, we gained everything. And if we're wrong we lost everything.

If the Atheists are right, we still lose everything, and if they're wrong. They might end up in Big shit for their disbelief...depending on what religion you adhere to that was right.
Janers place
24-01-2005, 19:35
I'm going to have to go with the big bang thing on this one.
You Forgot Poland
24-01-2005, 19:36
The only logical explanation is the big bang.
God couldn't create the world in 6 days because he could have stayed awake for only 5 days with the help of amphetamine.

You remember that time God made the run from New York to Bakersfield in three days flat with no company but a fist-fighting orangutang and six grams of coke? Man, what a nerve-jangling, gear-grinding ride that was! He was so hungry when he came down that he ate three burgers and a whole pizza pie at the Mad Greek's.
Dogburg
24-01-2005, 19:37
Eh... easier to say G-d exists. At least it gives me comfort, knowing i'll end up going somewhere when i die. After all, reading from another thread.

If the Believers are right, we gained everything. And if we're wrong we lost everything.

If the Atheists are right, we still lose everything, and if they're wrong. They might end up in Big shit for their disbelief...depending on what religion you adhere to that was right.

My implication was that it was logically easier to assume a spontaneous universe, not easier on the mind.

However, we atheists don't hate existence or mourn over our mortality. I'm an atheist with a life purpose, which is to live as happily and comfortably as I can.
MuhOre
24-01-2005, 19:40
My implication was that it was logically easier to assume a spontaneous universe, not easier on the mind.

However, we atheists don't hate existence or mourn over our mortality. I'm an atheist with a life purpose, which is to live as happily and comfortably as I can.


Yes, i know that. I was trying to say that i instead find it easier to believe in a supreme Deity. :)
Reformentia
24-01-2005, 19:52
Oh, now I can see the poll...

"God just initiated the big bang...everything else is stories" That's my opinion. I believe in science, and when science comes to it's end, I believe in God.

Science never comes to it's end, it's constantly expanding it's sphere of explanation. The only thing you could possibly mean by that is that wherever the frontiers of scientific understanding are right now you insert God.

Which would mean your God is the God of the Gaps... and a few centuries ago you would have believed in the God who tossed lightning bolts around when he was irritated because science hadn't explained static electricity yet... and several millenia ago you would have believed in the God who steps in and makes wood burn when you rub two sticks together really fast (hey, maybe that's how you ask God for fire, who knows) because the principles of friction and the chemical reactions that are responsible for fire were beyond our understanding.
Slinao
24-01-2005, 19:52
see, the bible got edited, the line, "and G-d said, let there be light, and there was" it was "and G-d said, give me a budlight, and Michael said, ok here, and it was good"

Then in a drunken mood, G-d pissed out all life on the earth, and thats why we are soooooooooo fooked up.

In otherwords, no one knows, science doesn't go back that far with any proof, and well, I tend to think of it as G-d made it in 6 "days" phases.
Willamena
24-01-2005, 19:54
My belief isn't an option on the poll, so I chose "something else".

I believe in immanent creation.
Reformentia
24-01-2005, 19:59
Eh... easier to say G-d exists. At least it gives me comfort, knowing i'll end up going somewhere when i die. After all, reading from another thread.

If the Believers are right, we gained everything. And if we're wrong we lost everything.

If the Atheists are right, we still lose everything, and if they're wrong. They might end up in Big shit for their disbelief...depending on what religion you adhere to that was right.

I so despise the wager, it's such a useless exercise.

And if the Muslims are right Allah might toss you into an extra nasty room in hell for being a Christian because of all the unpleasantness between those two factions over the year.

And if the Vikings are right...

And if the Hindus are right....

And if the Zoroastrians are right...

And if the ancient Egyptians are right...

And if ancient Greeks are right... (Boy, Zeus is going to be pissed)

And if Christians are right BUT God has a special dislike for people who only pick a religion because they think they're playing the odds to save their own asses instead of out of any real spiritual conviction...

Never see those options or the 6 billion other ones come up when people bring up the damn wager... no, it's always either "believe in God" or "atheism" like that covers all the options or something.

Pascal's Wager is WORTHLESS... so why do I see it brought up like 5 times a week as if it's the font of all wisdom?